16 yr old LeBron James getting discovered at ABCD camp after dominating the No.1 play

[Lebron23]

https://youtu.be/UaDMpE0v9uQ

[3ba11]

Rookie Lebron had lower PER in 2004 than 40-year old MJ had in 2003

That's the best possible way to measure 2 players (2 players against the exact same comp), so we know that teenage Lebron < 40-year MJ in both raw production (PER) and experience (galaxies behind)

[Lebron23]

Rookie Lebron had lower PER in 2004 than 40-year old MJ had in 2003

That's the best possible way to measure 2 players (2 players against the exact same comp), so we know that teenage Lebron < 40-year MJ in both raw production (PER) and experience (galaxies behind)

16-year-old LeBron was giving Michael Jordan and other NBA players buckets, according to Ron Artest.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRdHLpYodnnNDv4tKyqMVm0G89LuUKID A-qMV_7Kztbyw&s

[3ba11]

16-year-old LeBron was giving Michael Jordan and other NBA players buckets, according to Ron Artest.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRdHLpYodnnNDv4tKyqMVm0G89LuUKID A-qMV_7Kztbyw&s


Do you know that they literally let guys score in pick-up games?... For instance, it isn't uncommon for guys to be messing around and just let a guy score, or try some move once in a while.

I'm not saying they were letting Lebron score - I'm saying that's how lax pick-up games are in general... Sometimes they let women (WNBA players or prospects) play in these games.

Again, based on their actual play against real competition, we know that teenage Lebron (2004) was inferior to 40-year MJ (2003) in both production (PER) and experience (galaxies behind).. TLDR: teenage lebron was nowhere near 40-year MJ... nowhere in the vicinity of being in the vicinity

[Lebron23]

Do you know that they literally let guys score in pick-up games?... For instance, it isn't uncommon for guys to be messing around and just let a guy score, or try some move once in a while.

I'm not saying they were letting Lebron score - I'm saying that's how lax pick-up games are in general... Sometimes they let women (WNBA players or prospects) play in these games.

Again, based on their actual play against real competition, we know that teenage Lebron (2004) was inferior to 40-year MJ (2003) in both production (PER) and experience (galaxies behind).. TLDR: teenage lebron was nowhere near 40-year MJ... nowhere in the vicinity of being in the vicinity

Jordan played with a near 30 ppg in Jerry Stackhouse. LeBron played with Boozer and Z. Both of them never averaged 21 ppg with the Cavaliers.

[WhiteKyrie]

16-year-old LeBron was giving Michael Jordan and other NBA players buckets, according to Ron Artest.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRdHLpYodnnNDv4tKyqMVm0G89LuUKID A-qMV_7Kztbyw&s
They were on the same team, misleading title. And apparently didn’t lose. LeBron isn’t better than MJ, get over it already you lil filipino. You can make the case over anyone but Mike.

[PerkinsFor3]

Jordan played with a near 30 ppg in Jerry Stackhouse. LeBron played with Boozer and Z. Both of them never averaged 21 ppg with the Cavaliers.

Jerry Stackhouse averaged 21.5 ppg with the Wizards (on just over 17 shots a game, mind you). Calling him a 'near 30 ppg player' is a reach (and I know things are a reach quite often with those t-rex arms you have). Or... are we calling Don MacLean a 'near 20 ppg' player as well? Might as well call Antwan Jamison a 'near 25 ppg' player while you're at it.

Hell, Bron played with Kevin Love, the 'near 27 ppg' player, Derrick Rose, the '25 ppg player', Isaiah Thomas, the near '30 ppg player'. Dwyane Wade, the near '31 ppg' player, Jordan Clarkson the near '20 ppg player'and Kyle Korver, the 'near 15 ppg' player on his team in one season!

[TheMan]

Jerry Stackhouse averaged 21.5 ppg with the Wizards (on just over 17 shots a game, mind you). Calling him a 'near 30 ppg player' is a reach (and I know things are a reach quite often with those t-rex arms you have). Or... are we calling Don MacLean a 'near 20 ppg' player as well? Might as well call Antwan Jamison a 'near 25 ppg' player while you're at it.

Hell, Bron played with Kevin Love, the 'near 27 ppg' player, Derrick Rose, the '25 ppg player', Isaiah Thomas, the near '30 ppg player'. Dwyane Wade, the near '31 ppg' player, Jordan Clarkson the near '20 ppg player'and Kyle Korver, the 'near 15 ppg' player on his team in one season!

:oldlol:

[FilmyCogTurner]

T-rex arms you have :roll:

[Johnny32]

Do you know that they literally let guys score in pick-up games?... For instance, it isn't uncommon for guys to be messing around and just let a guy score, or try some move once in a while.

I'm not saying they were letting Lebron score - I'm saying that's how lax pick-up games are in general... Sometimes they let women (WNBA players or prospects) play in these games.

Again, based on their actual play against real competition, we know that teenage Lebron (2004) was inferior to 40-year MJ (2003) in both production (PER) and experience (galaxies behind).. TLDR: teenage lebron was nowhere near 40-year MJ... nowhere in the vicinity of being in the vicinity

"Finley was in there. Stackhouse was in there. A young LeBron was in there. Woo. Young LeBron was in there.

I gave him a forearm on a fast break. He was cookin’. He was cookin’ everybody. Nobody could guard him. It was LeBron James. They couldn’t guard him.

And I’m like, ‘It doesn’t matter, he’s embarrassing us.

So he’s coming down full speed, and I go [gestures with forearm]. He gets up and starts cookin’ more. He’s just touuugh. He was about 225 at that time. But I remember him just being tough."

sounds lelaxed, eh?

nice desperate try, fatboy

[PerkinsFor3]

"Finley was in there. Stackhouse was in there. A young LeBron was in there. Woo. Young LeBron was in there.

I gave him a forearm on a fast break. He was cookin’. He was cookin’ everybody. Nobody could guard him. It was LeBron James. They couldn’t guard him.

And I’m like, ‘It doesn’t matter, he’s embarrassing us.

So he’s coming down full speed, and I go [gestures with forearm]. He gets up and starts cookin’ more. He’s just touuugh. He was about 225 at that time. But I remember him just being tough."

sounds lelaxed, eh?

nice desperate try, fatboy

To be fair, have you ever seen Artest be relaxed about anything basketball-related?

[sdot_thadon]

Rookie Lebron had lower PER in 2004 than 40-year old MJ had in 2003

That's the best possible way to measure 2 players (2 players against the exact same comp), so we know that teenage Lebron < 40-year MJ in both raw production (PER) and experience (galaxies behind)

You mean to tell me the "saved by the bell" edition of Lebron was comparable to the "master Yoda" version of Mj? Damn, guess he was the chosen one after all.....

[Druckenmiller]

Jerry Stackhouse averaged 21.5 ppg with the Wizards (on just over 17 shots a game, mind you). Calling him a 'near 30 ppg player' is a reach (and I know things are a reach quite often with those t-rex arms you have). Or... are we calling Don MacLean a 'near 20 ppg' player as well? Might as well call Antwan Jamison a 'near 25 ppg' player while you're at it.

Hell, Bron played with Kevin Love, the 'near 27 ppg' player, Derrick Rose, the '25 ppg player', Isaiah Thomas, the near '30 ppg player'. Dwyane Wade, the near '31 ppg' player, Jordan Clarkson the near '20 ppg player'and Kyle Korver, the 'near 15 ppg' player on his team in one season!

Jerry Brickhouse shot .409 FG% and .290 from for his career — and in 2003-03. He was a pretty average player in the NBA. He made two all Star teams his entire 17 year career. The same number Boozer made in 12.

I actually think Boozer was a fmore impactful NBA than Brickhouse.

Either way, trying to pretend playing alongside Jerry Brickhouse is the same as stacking a roster with nine Hall of Famers only to miss the playoffs is hilarious.