View Full Version : Can the Warriors win a championship without Draymond Green?
Stephonit
10-10-2022, 10:41 AM
Is Draymond essential to the Warriors' championship aspirations or can they win without him?
SATAN
10-10-2022, 10:42 AM
JP can drag Steph to another finals.
hold this L
10-10-2022, 10:42 AM
Depends what he's replaced with. If you remove a 25m/year player with nothing, then obviously not. They should still keep him for one more season and use the newbies and see if anyone wants to step up.
Johnny32
10-10-2022, 10:50 AM
lol the gsw are a lottery team without dray.
JohnMax
10-10-2022, 10:51 AM
Steph repeating as best player on his team is a threat to the system. They'll pull every trick to sabotage him like they did in 2016.
https://i.ibb.co/7QPxXHk/308842200-10159930962411006-1150377680431042689-n.jpg
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vqZY8P42pLo
PerkinsFor3
10-10-2022, 10:56 AM
https://i.ibb.co/7QPxXHk/308842200-10159930962411006-1150377680431042689-n.jpg
Somebody in that BR workplacement team thought it was a sensational idea to use that photoshop effect right there.
TheGoatest
10-10-2022, 02:33 PM
No, they need all of their components to win.
In 2020-21 they had the exact same roster as last year minus Klay, and they failed to make the playoffs, let alone win a championship.
Well, they didn't have the exact same roster as the 2021-22 one minus Klay. They also had James Wiseman and Kelly Oubre.
Kblaze8855
10-10-2022, 04:00 PM
At this point yes. If the young guys get even marginally better it won’t be too tough. I’m sure he’s more useful than casuals think teaching and talking guys through things but their firepower would be tough to match if those young guys reach half their potential.
Yes & No.
They need to replace him.
Yes or No
10-10-2022, 05:17 PM
No.
FultzNationRISE
10-10-2022, 05:40 PM
Yes, easily. This team is stacked to the rafters.
Spurs m8
10-10-2022, 05:54 PM
They just did
Yes or No
10-13-2022, 09:50 AM
They just did
No.
LeCola
10-13-2022, 10:51 AM
Yes, if Wiseman stays healthy.
hold this L
10-13-2022, 12:14 PM
No, they need all of their components to win.
In 2020-21 they had the exact same roster as last year minus Klay, and they failed to make the playoffs, let alone win a championship.
Well, they didn't have the exact same roster as the 2021-22 one minus Klay. They also had James Wiseman and Kelly Oubre.
Another terrible post from you, as usual. They did not have the same team. They had the worst team in the league last year when Steph was out and heavily improved the depth they needed. Otto and GPII were massive x factors in improving the team last season. This pushed a lot of useless guys that were getting heavy minutes like JTA and Lee and limited their minutes. A guy like Baze was getting heavy minutes that year, then he went to the Lakers who were even worse than the Warriors the next year and got significantly less minutes. Even someone like Belly was good in spot minutes, at least an improvement over the pile or trash they had the year before. They were 1st in the league shortly before Klay came back, the difference is massive from 21 to 22 season.
FilmyCogTurner
10-14-2022, 04:48 PM
They can still win but that team would sure as hell need a voice. It's hard to imagine Steph and Klay taking up that mantle but they would have to in order for the team to be truly successful.
Now that I think about it, does seem quite strange how quiet these guys are on the court. Leaders of the team and already established champs... the young guns need their voice.
tontoz
10-14-2022, 05:49 PM
Dray played only 46 games last year and they had a winning record without him. This year Wiseman will be back and the young guys should be better. Without dray there would be a lot more time for Kuminga who looks like he could be a beast.
While dray is certainly a great defender he is also a disaster on offense . He isn't the same guy he was in 2016.
Dray played only 46 games last year and they had a winning record without him. This year Wiseman will be back and the young guys should be better. Without dray there would be a lot more time for Kuminga who looks like he could be a beast.
While dray is certainly a great defender he is also a disaster on offense . He isn't the same guy he was in 2016.
Do you think bradley beal can help them on another finals run uncle t?
Gohan
10-15-2022, 10:35 AM
They just did
They won despite him basically, youre right. You could have replaced him with my ten year old niece in one of those games in the finals and she would have been just as effective
Manny98
10-15-2022, 12:30 PM
Yes, after what Wiggins has displayed this year in the playoffs absolutely
bdonovan
10-15-2022, 12:34 PM
No.
Anyone saying yes may dwell too much on offense and doesn't fully appreciate the defensive side of the game. Basketball is more than just shooting.
That said, Wiseman and Kuminga have looked very good so far. With another year of development, it's possible that those two can pick up the slack on the interior. Kuminga has the physicality/build and Wiseman has the length. This year, however, doubtful.
bdonovan
10-15-2022, 12:37 PM
Dray played only 46 games last year and they had a winning record without him. This year Wiseman will be back and the young guys should be better. Without dray there would be a lot more time for Kuminga who looks like he could be a beast.
While dray is certainly a great defender he is also a disaster on offense . He isn't the same guy he was in 2016.
They were roughly a 50-50 team without him.
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/warriors-record-without-draymond-green-since-2022
"The Golden State Warriors have a 19-17 record without Draymond Green since 2021-22."
A 52.7 W/L %.
With him, they had a 73.9% W/L.
"The Golden State Warriors have a 34-12 record with Draymond Green since 2021-22."
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/warriors-record-with-draymond-green-since-2022
They were roughly a 50-50 team without him.
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/warriors-record-without-draymond-green-since-2022
"The Golden State Warriors have a 19-17 record without Draymond Green since 2021-22."
A 52.7 W/L %.
With him, they had a 73.9% W/L.
"The Golden State Warriors have a 34-12 record with Draymond Green since 2021-22."
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/warriors-record-with-draymond-green-since-2022
Curry stans really want to get rid of the donkey so badly. :yaohappy:
WhiteKyrie
10-15-2022, 01:31 PM
They did last year
hold this L
10-15-2022, 07:57 PM
Curry stans really want to get rid of the donkey so badly. :yaohappy:
It's not about wanting to get rid of him, but who can stay with the team. The issue is that Draymond is 32 years old and has been injury prone for 4 straight seasons. Don't think that gets better when you hit your mid 30s. If there was no cap, very few would want him out.
tontoz
10-15-2022, 09:00 PM
They were roughly a 50-50 team without him.
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/warriors-record-without-draymond-green-since-2022
"The Golden State Warriors have a 19-17 record without Draymond Green since 2021-22."
A 52.7 W/L %.
With him, they had a 73.9% W/L.
"The Golden State Warriors have a 34-12 record with Draymond Green since 2021-22."
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/warriors-record-with-draymond-green-since-2022
Pretty sure 19-17 is a winning record, and they were without Wiseman all season. Other guys were out at times. Klay was struggling for awhile after he came back.
Some idiot earlier said they would be lottery without dray.
tontoz
10-15-2022, 09:05 PM
It's not about wanting to get rid of him, but who can stay with the team. The issue is that Draymond is 32 years old and has been injury prone for 4 straight seasons. Don't think that gets better when you hit your mid 30s. If there was no cap, very few would want him out.
It would be funny to know what their luxury tax would be, just from Drays salary, if they resign him for $20 million per year which he wouldn't accept.
LeGoat4Life
10-15-2022, 10:34 PM
Warriors has a higher chance of accomplishing that than Lebron making the playoffs without AD
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