Ok I've seen enough - Wembanyama is overhyped and overrated

[3ba11]

Anytime the media is all hyped about something, they're usually dead wrong like Chet Holmgren and now Wembanyama. You can literally take what the media says and just think the opposite and you'll be okay

[zeerghit]

Anytime the media is all hyped about something, they're usually dead wrong like Chet Holmgren and now Wembanyama. You can literally take what the media says and just think the opposite and you'll be okay

yes we gonna listen to this guy.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?487615-Prediction-people-will-be-saying-Oubre-gt-Klay-at-times-this-next-season

[Full Court]

I'm withholding any judgment for now.

[PeroAntic]

Great insight op. deeply analytical and holistically argued.

[Kblaze8855]

The only players as hyped as him who didn’t at least end up being good are the Oden type injury bug guys. And everyone talking about this guy seems to include a “If he stays healthy” which is what you have to say with his body type.

Passing on guys hyped to this level by the media would make you pass on Hakeem, Ewing, Shaq, Lebron, Kareem, and guys like that. Even that next tier of hype was almost all good players.

A lot of the top picks weren’t hyped at all. Just guys who slid into that spot due to team needs or whatever. The real hyped guys? They rarely just turn out bad.

Whatever examples you can think of to suggest they are you would probably have to inflate their hype in retrospect to include them or they just got injured.

[SouBeachTalents]

1-2 years from now

“Wembanyama proved me wrong! He’s in my top 10 all time”

Or

“This was just a troll.”

I 100% guarantee if he ends up having a successful career, OP will do a complete 180 like he has on almost every other player :lol

[FultzNationRISE]

Anytime the media is all hyped about something, they're usually dead wrong like Chet Holmgren and now Wembanyama. You can literally take what the media says and just think the opposite and you'll be okay

What? He hasnt even played yet :lol

Even if he hadnt gotten injured, he still wouldnt have played a regular season game yet :lol

[Pitbull]

Lets wait and see

[Wally450]

Anytime the media is all hyped about something, they're usually dead wrong like Chet Holmgren and now Wembanyama. You can literally take what the media says and just think the opposite and you'll be okay

Literally you with LeBron.

[Axe]

Lmao you are jinxing him too early.

[Im Still Ballin]

Hard to say. He's hyped for his potential, not what he is right now.

I think he'll look tremendous when he adds 40-50 pounds over the next five years. Hopefully, he can add that much. AD went from 210 pounds to 250-260 pounds; KD went from 210 pounds to a peak of 240 pounds, but he's around 225 now. Giannis went from 190 pounds to 250 pounds.

He needs to be more like Boban than Porzingis. Boban's around 290-300 pounds, while KP is around 240. If Victor can get to around 260-270 lean, watch out.

[Im Still Ballin]

That extra weight will make him a better rebounder, rim protector, screener, and interior scorer. It'll also make him a better shooter, as he'll be more stable. Dirk had a strong frame and could shoot in the post so well because of that strength. Porzingis isn't able to do the same because he's 240 pounds at 7'3".

[90sgoat]

Hard to say. He's hyped for his potential, not what he is right now.

I think he'll look tremendous when he adds 40-50 pounds over the next five years.

Yeah, that was the mistake Porzingis made, he did put on a lot of muscle, but not nearly as much as he could have with the Giannis regiment.

What I see with Victor here is a promising rookie season, but nowhere near historic, maybe something like 17-7-2 on poor efficiency.

Then he'll "work out" over the summer and come back having put on 30-40lbs of muscle and a massive jaw and he'll suddenly run and jump higher and then, yeah, he can be a mix maybe of Giannis and Zingis.

As a natural player? He projects as a worse Porzingis.

[90sgoat]

Dirk had a strong frame and could shoot in the post so well because of that strength.

Dirk had a massive frame and bone structure before putting on weight though. Victor has narrow shoulders like Zingis and Durant.

https://images2.minutemediacdn.com/image/upload/c_fill,w_1440,ar_16:9,f_auto,q_auto,g_auto/shape/cover/sport/https-3A-2F-2Fthesmokingcuban-com-2Fwp-content-2Fuploads-2Fgetty-images-2F2017-2F07-2F1191303675-850x560-cdf2eb0fc002c2d769423279fa6df7b2.jpg

[ShawkFactory]

Aaaaannnnndddd it starts :lol

Not just with OP but in general. When someone is this hyped there will always be some insecure folks.

[Sportal]

Anytime the media is all hyped about something, they're usually dead wrong like Chet Holmgren and now Wembanyama. You can literally take what the media says and just think the opposite and you'll be okay

Can you tell us why you think this? You've obviously watched highlights of him recently, right? :lol You wouldn't surprise me making this opinion without watching a single minute of play.

[SATAN]

Might be the only time I agree with OP ever. He obviously has potential but hasn't done much yet.

[PeroAntic]

Might be the only time I agree with OP ever. He obviously has potential but hasn't done much yet.
What was he supposed to do by the age of 18?

[SATAN]

Have better numbers first of all. I mean, there's a thread already comparing his value to LeBron and Shaq lol. No hate. Hopefully he does well.

[jayfan]

What? He hasnt even played yet :lol

Even if he hadnt gotten injured, he still wouldnt have played a regular season game yet :lol


And he did flash unique skill before getting hurt.

.

[90sgoat]

What was he supposed to do by the age of 18?

Win the Euroleague and be Final Four MVP?

[zeerghit]

Win the Euroleague and be Final Four MVP?

this is hard think to do at age he is..

[FultzNationRISE]

this is hard think to do at age he is..


It is, but I think thats the point regarding GOAT candidates, in any discipline in fact, they are pretty dominant by 18.

In chess for example, the best players in history were already world class by that point. Lebron was already dominant in the NBA as an 18 year old. Luka was dominant in Euroleague at that age. You have to figure guys like Magic, Bird, Kareem would have been better pros at 18 than Yama is, (ofc they werent allowed to go pro yet then.)

If you have enough raw talent to be one of the absolute best players in history, 18 is usually old enough to at least be an above average pro, even if you arent at your own personal peak yet.

Obviously theres a bit of a caveat for someone so freakishly tall, that it may take longer to adjust to your own constantly growing frame. We dont know. But in terms of historical patterns, there is precedent to suggest hes not actually a “GOAT” candidate, even if he has a great career and reaches like, top 25 or something. GOATs usually begin as phenoms and begin dominating very early.

[FultzNationRISE]

^ Also there are exceptions for guys who pick up the game late, like Duncan, Jokic etc.

But someone who’s been training from Day 1 like Yama should probably be a bit farther ahead in terms of pro impact, if we’re calling him one of the greatest prospects ever.

[PeroAntic]

Win the Euroleague and be Final Four MVP?

Ability is not directly correlated with achievements. There are other factors that affect this causal chain.

[PAOK]

Giannis is not a good comparison for skinny guys coming into the league, in terms of potential for physical development.

Giannis was literally malnourished and undertrained until 18y.o. The moment he got exposed to professional sports nutrition and strenght training, his body exploded.

Players like Wemby and Chet, on the other hand, have been under professional supervision since they were 14-15y.o. probably. So them packing on muscle like Giannis is unlikely.

Wemby is 210 lbs. He may get to a respectable 240 in a couple of years, which is ok-ish for a 7'4 guy.

[hateraid]

If you can't see this guy has all the skill and physical attributes to deserve being the number one pick then you really have a lousy eye test. The hype is validated. It's all hinging on health

But then again you think Jeff Green is better than Pippen so this doesn't surprise me

[Kblaze8855]

Win the Euroleague and be Final Four MVP?


That’s such a weird take to me. You look at the list of final four mvps and see a lot of great nba prospects?

I was fine with Nando de colo and I liked Nocioni on the bulls a lot but nba stars they weren’t. I’m only vaguely aware of Will Clayborn, Tyrese Rice, or the guy who won the last 2.

Its not really a prerequisite for being a great nba player out of Europe.

[3ba11]

If you can't see this guy has all the skill and physical attributes to deserve being the number one pick then you really have a lousy eye test. The hype is validated. It's all hinging on health

But then again you think Jeff Green is better than Pippen so this doesn't surprise me


Yeah he's the #1 pick

no one is disputing that

but the idea that he's a FOR SURE all-time great isn't right

you'll see him struggle with horrific efficiency as a rookie in the league.. his weaknesses will be exposed if the coach tries to make him the #1 option with high volume right away.. He isn't ready for that.

I just watched him attempt the same dribble move 3 times (here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gu5jBXEdwM&t=0m35s), here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gu5jBXEdwM&t=01m01s), and here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gu5jBXEdwM&t=05m46s)).. That's a horrible sign for trying to go off-the-dribble.. He also doesn't protect the ball with is off-arm (the sign of a fully-fledged guard), which means he will need to become and EXPERT jumpshooter - he's a long way off right now - extremely unpolished jumpshot in the sense that he can't shoot off a moves.. he'll need to do this AS A STANDARD but right now he can't do it except the occasional one-off..

however, if he ever became and expert jumpshooter, then all the hype about him would be justified..

the question is whether he will develop and get polished into the type of player that he could be - that's where the uncertainty lies in my view... ALL HIS MOVES NEED A TON MORE WORK.. he's a step up from Holmgren as a talent but more unpolished.

[red1]

man someone delete this dogshit low IQ thread already.

[3ba11]

man someone delete this dogshit low IQ thread already.


you guys were drooling over Cade Cunningham and Chet Holgren and calling them generational - I correctly made threads that told you to pump your brakes.

this is another one of those threads.. another correct one

[red1]

you guys were drooling over Cade Cunningham and Chet Holgren and calling them generational - I correctly made threads that told you to pump your brakes.

this is another one of those threads.. another correct one

show me one. single. thread or post of me drooling over cade cunningham or chet holmgren...




neither of these prospects are even nearly in the same stratosphere...





I already know that you're mentally retarded... are you really this dumb...

[red1]

chet hasn't even played a game. that kid will be a very good nba player. not that I care about that kid, his team, or his scrawny ass.

[3ba11]

show me one. single. thread or post of me drooling over cade cunningham or chet holmgren...




neither of these prospects are even nearly in the same stratosphere...





I already know that you're mentally retarded... are you really this dumb...


I said "you guys"

I was speaking generally - fans like to latch on to the overhyped media narratives - they did that with Cunningham, Holgren and now Wenbanyama

tbh, Bol Bol has a better handle - he has more of a pure guard handle.. I'm not saying he's better than Wembanyama, but he's a similar type of player.

[hateraid]

3ball, please define to us what your perception of hype is. Because Chet and Cade weren't this coveted, nor do they have the assets Wenby has.

[red1]

I said "you guys"

I was speaking generally - fans like to latch on to the overhyped media narratives - they did that with Cunningham, Holgren and now Wenbanyama

tbh, Bol Bol has a better handle - he has more of a pure guard handle.. I'm not saying he's better than Wembanyama, but he's a similar type of player.

dude just shut the f*ck up already. :oldlol:



you are the KING of flip-flopping.




not one consistent logical thought that has ever gone through that brain of yours :oldlol:

[Sportal]

Cmon now... I don't think I saw anyone suggesting Cunningham and Chet were generational talent...what????

[3ba11]

3ball, please define to us what your perception of hype is. Because Chet and Cade weren't this coveted, nor do they have the assets Wenby has.


I think Chet was hyped like this for a brief period - he was called "generational" a bunch and that was the thinking for a while.

And the draftexpress guy called Cade the best prospect he's ever seen

I agree that Wemby is more talented then Chet but he isn't an expert jumpshooter yet and that's what he'll need to be a top 10 NBA player in today's game.... because he isn't going to dominate the post and he won't be a ball-dominant rim attacker - so it's all about his jumpshot and being able to make jumpers off of moves against NBA comp... CONSITENTLY... EASILY.. he's far away right now imo

I could see a coach giving him the green light as #1 option and he averages 20 on worst-ever efficiency... or i could see a good coach make him a secondary option and bring him along a little slower.

[Sportal]

I think Chet was hyped like this for a brief period - he was called "generational" a bunch and that was the thinking for a while.

And the draftexpress guy called Cade the best prospect he's ever seen

I agree that Wemby is more talented then Chet but he isn't an expert jumpshooter yet and that's what he'll need to be a top 10 NBA player in today's game.... because he isn't going to dominate the post and he won't be a ball-dominant rim attacker - so it's all about his jumpshot and being able to make jumpers off of moves against NBA comp... CONSITENTLY... EASILY.. he's far away right now imo

I could see a coach giving him the green light as #1 option and he averages 20 on worst-ever efficiency... or i could see a good coach make him a secondary option and bring him along a little slower.

I reckon you get confused and forget that you're arguing with your alt accounts.

[RRR3]

I reckon you get confused and forget that you're arguing with your alt accounts.
:roll:

[Kblaze8855]

3ball, please define to us what your perception of hype is. Because Chet and Cade weren't this coveted, nor do they have the assets Wenby has.


Yea people barely knew who those players were. I learned of Chet like 80% through his season in college. They were hardcore fan known. Victor is getting sports center segments.

[ShawkFactory]

you'll see him struggle with horrific efficiency as a rookie in the league.. his weaknesses will be exposed if the coach tries to make him the #1 option with high volume right away.. He isn't ready for that.



And that's okay. He'll be a teenager his rookie year.

[90sgoat]

I don't understand why people don't just watch Wembanyana play in the french league and actually see him against decent competition?

Two things jump out:

He is weak and he is slow.

[Axe]

I don't understand why people don't just watch Wembanyana play in the french league and actually see him against decent competition?

Two things jump out:

He is weak and he is slow.
Yet somehow teams are planning on tanking for him prior to his draft not so long from now. Unless that's all a red herring and like you, i don't jump for this hype either.

[Sportal]

I don't understand why people don't just watch Wembanyana play in the french league and actually see him against decent competition?

Two things jump out:

He is weak and he is slow.

Oh no... But wait, aren't those two things that can be worked on between teenage and adulthood?

[90sgoat]

Oh no... But wait, aren't those two things that can be worked on between teenage and adulthood?

Yes, it all depends on that.

A cycle or two of some steroid combo, like Giannis did.

[AirBonner]

Wembanyama is a threat to MJ

[Kblaze8855]

I don't understand why people don't just watch Wembanyana play in the french league and actually see him against decent competition?

Two things jump out:

He is weak and he is slow.


The last two mvps of that league are undrafted G league players. European domination obviously doesn’t translate directly in all or even most cases. Two different games.

You could take the mvp of every top European league and drop them on the kings and they would still miss the playoffs.

There are not a lot of Lukas just hanging out over there because they don’t want 500 million dollars by 35.

[Axe]

Wembanyama is a threat to MJ
:milton

[Pitbull]

Wembanyama is a threat to MJ

:lebronamazed:

[3ba11]

The next goat could indeed be a 7-foot guard and expert jumpshooter because we're seeing the beginnings of it with Bol Bol, Wemby, Chet, and more.. It's kind of amazing how all the 7-footers are trying to have a guard handle..

But none of them actually have a fully-fledged guard handle, although Bol is the most capable of going off-the-dribble in the halfcourt imo.. Wemby's handle is obviously exceptional for his size but he isn't a fully-fledged guard and players don't normally improve into full-fledged guards if they didn't come into the league with certain things already hard-wired in.. He's young enough however that there could still be capacity for his handle to organically improve without specific training.. The issue is that this is among the quickest he will ever be - that's another reason it's harder to develop a fully-fledged guard handle as you age.

[Axe]

The next goat could indeed be a 7-foot guard and expert jumpshooter because we're seeing the beginnings of it with Bol Bol, Wemby, Chet, and more.. It's kind of amazing how all the 7-footers are trying to have a guard handle..

But none of them actually have a fully-fledged guard handle, although Bol is the most capable of going off-the-dribble in the halfcourt imo.. Wemby's handle is obviously exceptional for his size but he isn't a fully-fledged guard and players don't normally improve into full-fledged guards if they didn't come into the league with certain things already hard-wired in.. He's young enough however that there could still be capacity for his handle to organically improve without specific training.. The issue is that this is among the quickest he will ever be - that's another reason it's harder to develop a fully-fledged guard handle as you age.
Hopefully he'll be better than kobe ever was.

[3ba11]

Hopefully he'll be better than kobe ever was.


Ultimately, when a 7-footer can do this with comparable quickness and seamlessness, they'll be goat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHi_kbuKmJo&t=14s...


but i don't think we're there yet

Otoh, watch Wemby try the same move 3 times repeatedly in the same game - here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gu5jBXEdwM&t=0m35s), here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gu5jBXEdwM&t=01m01s), and here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gu5jBXEdwM&t=05m46s)

night and day?

[Axe]

Ultimately, when a 7-footer can do this with comparable quickness and seamlessness, they'll be goat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHi_kbuKmJo&t=14s...


but i don't think we're there yet

Otoh, watch Wemby try the same move 3 repeatedly in the same game - here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gu5jBXEdwM&t=0m35s), here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gu5jBXEdwM&t=01m01s), and here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gu5jBXEdwM&t=05m46s)

night and day?
Whatever :kobe:

Them > kobe

[Sportal]

Ultimately, when a 7-footer can do this with comparable quickness and seamlessness, they'll be goat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHi_kbuKmJo&t=14s...


but i don't think we're there yet

Otoh, watch Wemby try the same move 3 times repeatedly in the same game - here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gu5jBXEdwM&t=0m35s), here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gu5jBXEdwM&t=01m01s), and here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gu5jBXEdwM&t=05m46s)

night and day?

Interesting..................... So with my supreme counting abilities, I counted 0 instances of a teenage Durant in these highlights... Oh, this is Durant when he's at the Warriors... So 10th season? You're comparing a teenager with Durant, a player with one of the biggest scoring abilities of all time?

"I don't think we're there yet"...? These are your comparisons... But you're saying he is "overhyped and overrated". Choose a lane ffs. Is he overhyped and overrated when comparing him with 10th season Durant? That is your angle? Really?

[hateraid]

Yea people barely knew who those players were. I learned of Chet like 80% through his season in college. They were hardcore fan known. Victor is getting sports center segments.

There's also a clear development gap that can be acknowlegde way before pre-draft. Same thing with Scoot. You can tell these two are far more developed than players showcasing for the NBA. Maybe not Shaq/Lebron type hype but certainly transparent as a Zion or Oden.

[hateraid]

I think Chet was hyped like this for a brief period - he was called "generational" a bunch and that was the thinking for a while.

And the draftexpress guy called Cade the best prospect he's ever seen

I agree that Wemby is more talented then Chet but he isn't an expert jumpshooter yet and that's what he'll need to be a top 10 NBA player in today's game.... because he isn't going to dominate the post and he won't be a ball-dominant rim attacker - so it's all about his jumpshot and being able to make jumpers off of moves against NBA comp... CONSITENTLY... EASILY.. he's far away right now imo

I could see a coach giving him the green light as #1 option and he averages 20 on worst-ever efficiency... or i could see a good coach make him a secondary option and bring him along a little slower.

Most of that terminology was smokescreen to give the draft a little more drama. Every year there's that type of dialogue. You think Chet was more coveted over Embiid? Probably the same yet Embiid was selected 3rd after Wiggins.

Wenby is more developed and coveted over Scoot Henderson whom I think is a better prospect than Ja Morant if were being comparable. This kid actually is well deserved that hype. I'll agree it all depends on how it translates based on health and understanding of the NBA style play. But he's better than Porzingis. And a healthy Porzongis is an above average player.

[zeerghit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lGA97_tOlg&ab_channel=ESPN
yeah overhyped and overrated..

[Phoenix]

Dude hasn't played a single NBA game yet and OP is already prepping the next decade of copy/pastes.

[TheGoatest]

Holy crap, seems like all this dude needs to do is remember that nobody can block his 3 point shoot in the NBA either.

[zeerghit]

nice nba talent evaluation op

[ILLsmak]

Mental toughness makes legends. He is a real prospect tho. My worry is he moves a bit weird tho he’s athletic, I’d want to work on how he runs, foot planting etc. No way I would want to put significant weight on this guy either, dunno if he’s built for it. Let him be like manure bol w superstar talent. Him not reb could suck but get a Pf? Or put him at pf.

But yea I watched some manute after and I’m not liking the way wems knees bend around. Not saying manute had more mobility, but he wasn’t exploding as much. Dudes stuff looks like it could snap. Manute understood to not push too hard.

Ofc I was also the dude who said blow his knee out when dudes had predict what zions gonna do first season.

Keep his weight low, teach him how to make fewer wide foot plant moves, let him fill out a little like… normal aging, but focus most on conditioning and teaching him how to make efficient movements. At that point you don’t know if he’s a legend cuz mental but he’s def an easy superstar. It’s not even stay healthy, it’s learn to stay healthy. Most other people who had catastrophic injuries had some earlier injuries or were just doing wild stuff. Every time he comes in the lane playing like a guard w a wide base, spinning etc, he could just get bumped wrong and snap his leg. Haha, not literally but it could do real damage. He should really stay about 10-15 and just become money with raise up shots.

-Smak

[3ba11]

a reminder

he'll be better than shawn bradley and a little better than yao - so quite good - but not top 30 all-time

[RRR3]

a reminder

he'll be better than shawn bradley and a little better than yao - so quite good - but not top 30 all-time
Scared of Wemby already :yaohappy:

[Carbine]

It's a fairly weak era for the under age 25 player group right now.

Luka, Tatum, Haliburton, Edwards, Ja, Zion...

Wemby may very well be #1 by default if Luka keeps playing Luka ball. Which would make him one of the goats by default.

[paksat]

It's a fairly weak era for the under age 25 player group right now.

Luka, Tatum, Haliburton, Edwards, Ja, Zion...

Wemby may very well be #1 by default if Luka keeps playing Luka ball. Which would make him one of the goats by default.

this is the main problem, the product has been diluted so badly that even this guy looks generational.

could you imagine even young dwyane wade showing up out of nowhere right now? The guy would look like a phenom vs the current generation.

who's gonna guard a 2006 wade, let alone 2009 wade, in this league right now?

[ShawkFactory]

It's a fairly weak era for the under age 25 player group right now.

Luka, Tatum, Haliburton, Edwards, Ja, Zion...

Wemby may very well be #1 by default if Luka keeps playing Luka ball. Which would make him one of the goats by default.

Shai is a huge omission here.

[Carbine]

He can go in there certainly. Still a very very weak group overall.

[SATAN]

OP's thread title is correct.

[highwhey]

for the very first time in history, OP is correct

[FrenchDude]

Went to the arena to watch him play in France.
Solid skillset but he looks like an accident waiting to happen with this body. No wonder Britney was not allowed to lay more than a finger on him.

[hateraid]

for the very first time in history, OP is correct

Is he though? Regardless OP doesn't watch ball and relies on online stats. Throw 1000 darts and one will hit

[FilmyCogTurner]

Ultimately, when a 7-footer can do this with comparable quickness and seamlessness, they'll be goat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHi_kbuKmJo&t=14s...


but i don't think we're there yet

Otoh, watch Wemby try the same move 3 times repeatedly in the same game - here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gu5jBXEdwM&t=0m35s), here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gu5jBXEdwM&t=01m01s), and here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gu5jBXEdwM&t=05m46s)

night and day?

It's about having the IN-GRE-DIENTS to one day pull off those moves in the NBA which he for sure does.

And guess what? When its a 7' footer executing those dribble moves against other 7' footers the match up becomes even more problematic for league wide defenders.

Enjoy the hype bro, maybe he only ends up half way decent but he's a prospect without question and an interesting one at that.

[Axe]

https://i.ibb.co/g9FMwCy/IMG-20230716-090849.jpg

It appears wemby has a new nickname already. :lol

[SATAN]

soft m8

[1987_Lakers]

Did mods make this thread too?

[3ba11]

Did mods make this thread too?


I made the thread a couple years before Wemby played his first game, and he is overrated - he'll never be GOAT as projected.

[RRR3]

I made the thread a couple years before Wemby played his first game, and he is overrated - he'll never be GOAT as projected.
QUIVERING in fear. He's already better than MJ, who would have failed to medal with this France roster.

[HylianNightmare]

https://i.ibb.co/g9FMwCy/IMG-20230716-090849.jpg

It appears wemby has a new nickname already. :lol

The drugs dealer?

[Chick Stern]

Wemby absolutely clowned Embiid in the Final. Ate his lunch, stole his girlfriend, took his lunch money.

[3ba11]

And another one?

[ShawkFactory]

And another one?

..?

[Street Hunger]

Nobody should really jump to any serious conclusions in the first few weeks of the season

[Druckenmiller]

IÂ’ve watched 80% of the games in his NBA career so far. HeÂ’s unique and does unique things and he will make about one spectacular play per game but the attention that gets overshadows the rest of the game.

The best scouting report on him ever was from Windenhorst prior to him coming over which basically went something like: heÂ’ll disappear for most of the game and then put together a five minute stretch of incomprehensible greatness that youÂ’ve never seen before.

Yep.

And if he could do that for 30 minutes instead of five heÂ’d be an all-time great is the theory.

Teams are getting physical with him this year in a way that they really donÂ’t last year. Everyone has figured out that you guard him with Dillon Brooks and Jerami Grant or whoever you have similar to those two, and not your center.

He canÂ’t beat Brooks/Grant types off the dribble and create, especially if theyÂ’re getting physical. Isnt willing or able to post them up and take advantage of them there, and can face up on the elbow or 3point line and shoot over the top of them, but canÂ’t make a shot.

I also donÂ’t see the same passion/energy that I saw last year. The thing that separates the most talented guys in the NBA is their competitiveness. Give me a guy who wants it and wears that in his face and play any day all day over a guy who is happy to jog up and down the court 40 times and never accomplish anything.

I love ChetÂ’s competitiveness and spirit. The jury is out on Wemby right now. He has to be able to make shots to become an all-star caliber player obviously. But he also has to play with more energy and passion even if he was making shots.

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Nobody should really jump to any serious conclusions in the first few weeks of the season

We can jump to the conclusion that he needs to stop shooting three pointers. He's averaging 7 3s per game at something like 21%. It's ridiculous, and I don't understand how his coaches are allowing it.