Clyde Drexler vs Reggie Miller

[L.Kizzle]

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/reggie-miller-of-the-indiana-pacers-dribbles-against-clyde-drexler-of-picture-id109744674?s=612x612

I find it crazy how this is even a thing now. Back when they were playing, it was no question who was the better player. But in the past years, publications have even listed Reggie over Clyde.

Some would think off the bat, Reggie was the better scorer but Clyde was the better scorer by far. Clyde has three seasons of 25+ ppg. Reggie has none. We obviously know Clyde is better at rebounds, assist, steals, blocks and defense.

Past peak Houston Rocket version Clyde was just as good as peak Reggie Miller. 95 Drexler was better than any version of Reggie Miller.

Clyde was more successful in the postseason. One championship and 3 Finals appearances and never missing the playoffs. Reggie missed the postseason three times.

Clyde has 10 All-Star appearances compared to Reggie's 5.
Clyde has five All-NBA Teams (one 1st, two second and two third.) Reggie has three All-NBA 3rd teams.

Reggie has a bigger mouth and Clyde is laid back so that may have done it.

[Reggie43]

Drexler was honestly a tier better. The end.

[L.Kizzle]

Drexler was honestly a tier better. The end.
ESPN Top 74 - 2020
57 Clyde
49 Reggie


ESPN Top 75 - 2021
53 Clyde Drexler
51 Reggie Miller

[ShawkFactory]

Drexler was honestly a tier better. The end.

Yea it’s not even close.

A current example would be like comparing Booker to Luka or something. Or Bradley Beal to Paul George? Idk but I don’t think anyone ever thought the Reggie Miller was a better player than Drexler or even on his level.

[L.Kizzle]

Why has their roles reversed in recent years?

[ShawkFactory]

Why has their roles reversed in recent years?

Because time allows people to think more. Regardless of what they actually did on the court (Clyde was way better)..Reggie Miller was an All Star just 5 times. He made three 3rd All NBA teams.

Clyde was a 10x All star, made an All NBA first team, 2 second teams, and 2 thirds.

They were different tiers as players. A choking meme and a couple big shots here and there doesn't mean much over time.

[Round Mound]

The Glide...better.

[Full Court]

Drexler was honestly a tier better. The end.

This. Back when they were both playing, nobody considered Miller to be Drexler's equal.

[FultzNationRISE]

Both guys violated MJ’s manhood on several occasions, obviously Clyde was considered the stronger player in his day but Reggie has been a likable/visible media figure in recent years, and also has the more enduring highlights/moments from his playing days. I think the other aspect of it is that people tend to project players of the past into today’s game, and in today’s era Reggie would probably get a huge boost to his production. Drexler would certainly be no slouch in the modern game, but I think people just imagine the possibilities of Reggie getting the amount of three point looks common in the game today. He sort of gets retroactive extra credit for his influence on today’s game.

[Round Mound]

Both guys violated MJ’s manhood on several occasions, obviously Clyde was considered the stronger player in his day but Reggie has been a likable/visible media figure in recent years, and also has the more enduring highlights/moments from his playing days. I think the other aspect of it is that people tend to project players of the past into today’s game, and in today’s era Reggie would probably get a huge boost to his production. Drexler would certainly be no slouch in the modern game, but I think people just imagine the possibilities of Reggie getting the amount of three point looks common in the game today. He sort of gets retroactive extra credit for his influence on today’s game.

Good observations :applause:

[SouBeachTalents]

Both guys violated MJ’s manhood on several occasions, obviously Clyde was considered the stronger player in his day but Reggie has been a likable/visible media figure in recent years, and also has the more enduring highlights/moments from his playing days. I think the other aspect of it is that people tend to project players of the past into today’s game, and in today’s era Reggie would probably get a huge boost to his production. Drexler would certainly be no slouch in the modern game, but I think people just imagine the possibilities of Reggie getting the amount of three point looks common in the game today. He sort of gets retroactive extra credit for his influence on today’s game.
This.

[kawhileonard2]

Drexler was better for sure.

[Pitbull]

I feel like Reggie Miller in today's game would be much more amazing. He is One of the greatest shooters ever, super clutch, great off the ball and doesnt like ball handling.
That type of role player, pretty much like Klay. He fits like glove next to Lebron or Giannis or on Warriors.

[dankok8]

Drexler is noticeably better due to his all-around greatness. A tier better sounds right because Drexler was actually an MVP candidate and definite top 10 player in the NBA whereas Reggie never reached those heights.

Yes Reggie would be a lot better in today's game and he gets credit for that. However I'd argue that Clyde would also see his numbers improve today with the rules favoring the offense more. You couldn't stop him getting to the rim.

[100grandman]

Clyde by far.

[Kblaze8855]

Any sports comparison that’s only a question 30 years removed isn’t a valid comparison to begin with. If they were the same level someone would have thought so when they were playing.

[FultzNationRISE]

Any sports comparison that’s only a question 30 years removed isn’t a valid comparison to begin with. If they were the same level someone would have thought so when they were playing.

Agreed.

Clyde and MJ for instance were considered rivals and equals in their day, and among high IQ fans of today this is still largely seen as the case. However selective memory and apocryphal tales tend to give MJ's legacy more of a mythical boost among casuals.

[PeroAntic]

Agreed.

Clyde and MJ for instance were considered rivals and equals in their day, and among high IQ fans of today this is still largely seen as the case. However selective memory and apocryphal tales tend to give MJ's legacy more of a mythical boost among casuals.

:oldlol:

Nobody considers them equals. This is literally the definition of half truth. Say two things, one of which is true (rivals) and another completely false (equals) and try to make it look as if the second is true because the first is. It isnt. gtfo

[Xiao Yao You]

Agreed.

Clyde and MJ for instance were considered rivals and equals in their day, and among high IQ fans of today this is still largely seen as the case. However selective memory and apocryphal tales tend to give MJ's legacy more of a mythical boost among casuals.

Drexler was closer to MJ's tier than Reggie's. Only in Indiana would they have thought they were close to equals

[Full Court]

Agreed.

Clyde and MJ for instance were considered rivals and equals in their day, and among high IQ fans of today this is still largely seen as the case. However selective memory and apocryphal tales tend to give MJ's legacy more of a mythical boost among casuals.

MJ and Clyde were rivals, but MJ was universally considered the better player. I'm sure you know that. If I'm remembering correctly, some sportswriter said Drexler was a better SHOOTER than Jordan, which is what prompted Jordan to drop 6 three-pointers in the first half of the finals game against the Blazers, which was a finals record at the time.

Even if you concede that Drexler was a better shooter, he couldn't touch Jordan in overall scoring.

[Xiao Yao You]

MJ and Clyde were rivals, but MJ was universally considered the better player. I'm sure you know that. If I'm remembering correctly, some sportswriter said Drexler was a better SHOOTER than Jordan, which is what prompted Jordan to drop 6 three-pointers in the first half of the finals game against the Blazers, which was a finals record at the time.

Even if you concede that Drexler was a better shooter, he couldn't touch Jordan in overall scoring.

Drexler didn't have to score as much As Jordan. He had better scorers around him

[Pitbull]

its funny between both, there is only one all nba 1st team

[Xiao Yao You]

its funny between both, there is only one all nba 1st team

stacked era

[MadDogg]

Glide all day

[90sgoat]

Drexler vs Reggie is like Butler vs Booker today.

[tontoz]

Clyde was seen as the clear #2 SG at the time.

If anyone questioned if there was a big gap between Clyde and MJ those questions were answered when they met in the Finals. Pretty embarrasing mismatch.

[SATAN]

Never heard anyone claim Miller was better tbh.

[bison]

ESPN Top 74 - 2020
57 Clyde
49 Reggie


ESPN Top 75 - 2021
53 Clyde Drexler
51 Reggie Miller

Reggie's been working for TNT for a while. Probably has media friends across the industry and has probably blown a few media head honchos in his time to help bump him up some spots on these lists.

[Xiao Yao You]

Reggie's been working for TNT for a while. Probably has media friends across the industry and has probably blown a few media head honchos in his time to help bump him up some spots on these lists.

his announcing makes me like him even less

[PeroAntic]

Miller is much closer to Drexler than Drexler is to Jordan

[SouBeachTalents]

People are really giving serious responses to Fultz :lol

[Jud]

Miller is much closer to Drexler than Drexler is to Jordan

Well no shit

That being said, Drexler > Miller. Easily.

[L.Kizzle]

What about Reggie vs the other Hall of Fame shooting guards of the 90s. Was he even better than Joe D and Rock?


All-Star Selections
1990 - Joe, Miller
1991 - Joe
1992 - Joe
1993 - Joe, Mitch
1994 - Mitch
1995 - Joe, Miller, Mitch
1996 - Miller, Mitch
1997 - Joe, Mitch
1998 - Miller, Mitch
1999 - N/A
2000 - Miller, (Joe retired)

All-NBA Selections
1990 - 3rd Joe
1991 - 3rd Joe
1992 - none
1993 - 2nd Joe
1994 - 2nd Mitch
1995 - 2nd Mitch, 3rd Miller
1996 - 3rd Miller, Mitch
1997 - 2nd Mitch
1998 - 3rd Miller, Mitch

All-NBA Voting
1989 - 23 Joe, 24 Mitch
1990 - 13 Joe, 20 Miller, 22 Mitch
1991 - 16 Joe, 22 Mitch, 26 Miller
1992 - 18 Joe, 25 Mitch, 35 Miller
1993 - 9 Joe, 24 Miller
1994 - 9 Mitch, 15 Miller, 24 Joe
1995 - 9 Mitch, 11 Miller, 28 Joe
1996 - 13 Mitch, 14 Miller
1997 - 10 Mitch, 30 Miller
1998 - 13 Mitch, 14 Miller
1999 - 17 Miller, 34 Mitch
2000 - 31 Miller

MVP Voting
1989 - 17 Joe
1990 - 13 Joe
1991 - 15 Joe
1993 - 10 Joe
1996 - 16 Mitch
1997 - 13 Mitch
1998 - 15 Mitch, 16 Miller
2000 - 13 Miller

[Noyze]

I agree, the overrating of Reggie Miller as time has past is kinda annoying.

[Pitbull]

What about Reggie vs the other Hall of Fame shooting guards of the 90s. Was he even better than Joe D and Rock?


All-Star Selections
1990 - Joe, Miller
1991 - Joe
1992 - Joe
1993 - Joe, Mitch
1994 - Mitch
1995 - Joe, Miller, Mitch
1996 - Miller, Mitch
1997 - Joe, Mitch
1998 - Miller, Mitch
1999 - N/A
2000 - Miller, (Joe retired)

All-NBA Selections
1990 - 3rd Joe
1991 - 3rd Joe
1992 - none
1993 - 2nd Joe
1994 - 2nd Mitch
1995 - 2nd Mitch, 3rd Miller
1996 - 3rd Miller, Mitch
1997 - 2nd Mitch
1998 - 3rd Miller, Mitch

All-NBA Voting
1989 - 23 Joe, 24 Mitch
1990 - 13 Joe, 20 Miller, 22 Mitch
1991 - 16 Joe, 22 Mitch, 26 Miller
1992 - 18 Joe, 25 Mitch, 35 Miller
1993 - 9 Joe, 24 Miller
1994 - 9 Mitch, 15 Miller, 24 Joe
1995 - 9 Mitch, 11 Miller, 28 Joe
1996 - 13 Mitch, 14 Miller
1997 - 10 Mitch, 30 Miller
1998 - 13 Mitch, 14 Miller
1999 - 17 Miller, 34 Mitch
2000 - 31 Miller

MVP Voting
1989 - 17 Joe
1990 - 13 Joe
1991 - 15 Joe
1993 - 10 Joe
1996 - 16 Mitch
1997 - 13 Mitch
1998 - 15 Mitch, 16 Miller
2000 - 13 Miller

Nice to share

[SouBeachTalents]

What about Reggie vs the other Hall of Fame shooting guards of the 90s. Was he even better than Joe D and Rock?


All-Star Selections
1990 - Joe, Miller
1991 - Joe
1992 - Joe
1993 - Joe, Mitch
1994 - Mitch
1995 - Joe, Miller, Mitch
1996 - Miller, Mitch
1997 - Joe, Mitch
1998 - Miller, Mitch
1999 - N/A
2000 - Miller, (Joe retired)

All-NBA Selections
1990 - 3rd Joe
1991 - 3rd Joe
1992 - none
1993 - 2nd Joe
1994 - 2nd Mitch
1995 - 2nd Mitch, 3rd Miller
1996 - 3rd Miller, Mitch
1997 - 2nd Mitch
1998 - 3rd Miller, Mitch

All-NBA Voting
1989 - 23 Joe, 24 Mitch
1990 - 13 Joe, 20 Miller, 22 Mitch
1991 - 16 Joe, 22 Mitch, 26 Miller
1992 - 18 Joe, 25 Mitch, 35 Miller
1993 - 9 Joe, 24 Miller
1994 - 9 Mitch, 15 Miller, 24 Joe
1995 - 9 Mitch, 11 Miller, 28 Joe
1996 - 13 Mitch, 14 Miller
1997 - 10 Mitch, 30 Miller
1998 - 13 Mitch, 14 Miller
1999 - 17 Miller, 34 Mitch
2000 - 31 Miller

MVP Voting
1989 - 17 Joe
1990 - 13 Joe
1991 - 15 Joe
1993 - 10 Joe
1996 - 16 Mitch
1997 - 13 Mitch
1998 - 15 Mitch, 16 Miller
2000 - 13 Miller
Reggie never finished top 10 in MVP or All-NBA voting even once in his career, that shit's honestly crazy :lol

[sportjames23]

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/reggie-miller-of-the-indiana-pacers-dribbles-against-clyde-drexler-of-picture-id109744674?s=612x612

I find it crazy how this is even a thing now. Back when they were playing, it was no question who was the better player. But in the past years, publications have even listed Reggie over Clyde.

Some would think off the bat, Reggie was the better scorer but Clyde was the better scorer by far. Clyde has three seasons of 25+ ppg. Reggie has none. We obviously know Clyde is better at rebounds, assist, steals, blocks and defense.

Past peak Houston Rocket version Clyde was just as good as peak Reggie Miller. 95 Drexler was better than any version of Reggie Miller.

Clyde was more successful in the postseason. One championship and 3 Finals appearances and never missing the playoffs. Reggie missed the postseason three times.

Clyde has 10 All-Star appearances compared to Reggie's 5.
Clyde has five All-NBA Teams (one 1st, two second and two third.) Reggie has three All-NBA 3rd teams.

Reggie has a bigger mouth and Clyde is laid back so that may have done it.


This is the truth. I actually like Reggie, but Clyde was criminally underrated. He was easily the second-best two guard during in the 80s and 90s, and one of the few players who could match MJ both physically and scoring-wise, if he had been more aggressive. And for some reason, when the greatest dunkers of that era are mentioned, he somehow gets overlooked. The Glide was right up there with MJ and Dominique as far as athletic and creative dunks go in the 80s and 90s.

[John8204]

For me it's Reggie Miller over Clyde Drexler...everybody in this thread can claim Clyde was better but not a single one of you would draft him ahead of Reggie. Reggie was before his time and he was consistent often making the ECF and elevating his teammates. Drexler is a fine player but when I look at Clyde I see a guy on level with Dantely, English, King.

As for All-NBA and MVP Reggie had two problems he was a SG behind Jordan and Dumars (two of the best teams ever) and the "next Jordan" narrative took over the MVP race

[L.Kizzle]

For me it's Reggie Miller over Clyde Drexler...everybody in this thread can claim Clyde was better but not a single one of you would draft him ahead of Reggie. Reggie was before his time and he was consistent often making the ECF and elevating his teammates. Drexler is a fine player but when I look at Clyde I see a guy on level with Dantely, English, King.

As for All-NBA and MVP Reggie had two problems he was a SG behind Jordan and Dumars (two of the best teams ever) and the "next Jordan" narrative took over the MVP race
You said Clyde is on the level of Dantley, English and King. All three are also better the Reggie Miller.
English was the leading scorer for the entire decade of the 80s, Kong was runner up MVP to Bird in 84 (actually was voted MVP by the media I believe) and AD avg 30 for four consecutive seasons. All peaked at All NB 1ST or 2ND team when Bird and Dr J were usually 1st team.

[Xiao Yao You]

For me it's Reggie Miller over Clyde Drexler...everybody in this thread can claim Clyde was better but not a single one of you would draft him ahead of Reggie. Reggie was before his time and he was consistent often making the ECF and elevating his teammates. Drexler is a fine player but when I look at Clyde I see a guy on level with Dantely, English, King.

As for All-NBA and MVP Reggie had two problems he was a SG behind Jordan and Dumars (two of the best teams ever) and the "next Jordan" narrative took over the MVP race

Drexler wasn't a sf like those guys. None of them were the all around players that Drexler was. Not even close. Not sure Reggie was on their level. Great shooter though

[Kblaze8855]

People mentioning Bernard king like that C some kind of insult? Reggie in his prime had coaches selecting Mookie Blaylock and Derek McKey as better basketball players. King was runner-up in the MVP to Larry bird and ahead of Magic.

Neither one of them were special at anything but scoring but Bernard was a lot better at it.

If the Pacers had a Bernard King type at will scorer they wouldn’t have been posting up Dale Davis late or having Travis Best deciding the outcome of games while Reggie watched if a screen didn’t spring him open.

The pacers needed a Bernard King…

[Xiao Yao You]

People mentioning Bernard king like that C some kind of insult? Reggie in his prime had coaches selecting Mookie Blaylock and Derek McKey as better basketball players. King was runner-up in the MVP to Larry bird and ahead of Magic.

Neither one of them were special at anything but scoring but Bernard was a lot better at it.

If the Pacers had a Bernard King type at will scorer they wouldn’t have been posting up Dale Davis late or having Travis Best deciding the outcome of games while Reggie watched if a screen didn’t spring him open.

The pacers needed a Bernard King…

They had Smits posting up. Miller fit with him better than King would have. King was hurt a lot too

[Kblaze8855]

They had Smits posting up. Miller fit with him better than King would have. King was hurt a lot too


Of course Smits was posting up but when you go back and watch some of those games you’ll be alarmed how often somebody you clearly remember not being a very good scorer is trying to do it. Dale Davis posting up in the 4th is not something im soon to forget.

Davis, Workman, Best….hell mark jackson trying game winning foul line floaters. Reggie having more traditional guard skills would have been useful.

Hard to rely on a guard then or now who can’t often dribble forward under pressure. Especially after he evolved away from his early one on one moves. Really should have been posting up a bit more but that ship long sailed.

[ShawkFactory]

For me it's Reggie Miller over Clyde Drexler...everybody in this thread can claim Clyde was better but not a single one of you would draft him ahead of Reggie. Reggie was before his time and he was consistent often making the ECF and elevating his teammates. Drexler is a fine player but when I look at Clyde I see a guy on level with Dantely, English, King.

As for All-NBA and MVP Reggie had two problems he was a SG behind Jordan and Dumars (two of the best teams ever) and the "next Jordan" narrative took over the MVP race

By thinking that someone is better, that generally means they would draft said player first...

This is like comparing Ray Allen to Tmac in the early 2000s.

[RogueBorg]

Clyde all the way. Reggie was a one trick pony. He didn't play defense, couldn't rebound, couldn't pass. There was a time when people used to ask who was better, Clyde or MJ? This is a no contest in favor of the Glide.

[RogueBorg]

For me it's Reggie Miller over Clyde Drexler...everybody in this thread can claim Clyde was better but not a single one of you would draft him ahead of Reggie.

I would Drexler over Miller in a draft in a New York minute. Reggie literally did nothing else other than shoot, and he didn't play defense. Reggie's getting love because he's still in the spot light. He was as shocked as the rest of us for being selected to the 75th Anniversary Team.

[John8204]

I would Drexler over Miller in a draft in a New York minute. Reggie literally did nothing else other than shoot, and he didn't play defense. Reggie's getting love because he's still in the spot light. He was as shocked as the rest of us for being selected to the 75th Anniversary Team.

Nolan Ryan never got a Cy Young, Bruce Springsteen never had a #1 hit doesn't mean they weren't all-time greats. Reggie has a legacy that was put in historical perspective. Cylde was a fine player in his era but he played in an era where every team built their rosters around guys like Clyde. Also not to say Clyde used drugs but we can be 100% sure that Reggie was clean, lot of guys from that era you have to question.

[Reggie43]

Miller in his prime played intense, cuthroat, hardnosed defense that his peers hated him for it. Jordan and Richmond on interviews have said how they hated his dirty tactics. His coach (Isiah) loved his defense so much he called him his teams best defender at 35 years old. Miller in the biggest series of his career up to that point was the primary defender on Michael Jordan. He was 34 at that time and had an injured ankle and did a good job that he got praised for it. Heck he even shut down Jordan for 9/25 shooting 36%fg in game 7. Some guys still call him one of the better defenders on Jordan based off one series.

His biggest advantage on defense is that he relished that shooting guard matchup which motivated him to play hard on both ends of the floor. He was crafty, dirty and fundamentally sound and at 6'7" he was taller than most guys at the position and he did a good job contesting shots because of that length. Stronger players and quicker guards gave him problems but the best thing is that he put in effort at that side of the floor regardless of opposition.

The last 3-4 years of his career he obviously got worse defensively and thats the version of Miller some of the kids on here was able to see. When he retired the Pacer fan in me was actually excited because we would be able to field a better defensive team on the floor with him gone and probably play better but that never happened and the team imploded.

Lastly Drexler would have been better than Miller regardless of era. He was that good and you have to respect guys like that especially considering the accomplishments that he had.

[L.Kizzle]

Nolan Ryan never got a Cy Young, Bruce Springsteen never had a #1 hit doesn't mean they weren't all-time greats. Reggie has a legacy that was put in historical perspective. Cylde was a fine player in his era but he played in an era where every team built their rosters around guys like Clyde. Also not to say Clyde used drugs but we can be 100% sure that Reggie was clean, lot of guys from that era you have to question.
Did you just accuse Clyde of doping. I don't even think Clyde drinks.
He had a dope BBQ spot out here in Houston.

[John8204]

Every athlete from that era has to have a little suspicion because cheating was so prevalent and we never got a Basketball Canseco who named names. Reggie like Biggio or Jeter clearly was clean...but a number of players from that era I'm suspicious of.

[sdot_thadon]

Why has their roles reversed in recent years?

I think we've gotten farther away from the actual times they played and narrative can override the truth alot when discussing the past with people who weren't around then. The whole "Dream played with a garbage cast" narrative has had Clyde lumped in with that and I supposed the getting embarrassed by Mj in the national spotlight thing hurt him too. So people tend to forget that he was dynamite in Portland and led a team to the finals twice before he ever teamed with Hakeem. And by that time he was still good but past his prime, think Dwade with Lerbon in Miami 2012.

* oh about the subject of this thread? Clearly a level above Reggie.

[RogueBorg]

Miller in his prime played intense, cuthroat, hardnosed defense that his peers hated him for it. Jordan and Richmond on interviews have said how they hated his dirty tactics. His coach (Isiah) loved his defense so much he called him his teams best defender at 35 years old. Miller in the biggest series of his career up to that point was the primary defender on Michael Jordan. He was 34 at that time and had an injured ankle and did a good job that he got praised for it. Heck he even shut down Jordan for 9/25 shooting 36%fg in game 7. Some guys still call him one of the better defenders on Jordan based off one series.

His biggest advantage on defense is that he relished that shooting guard matchup which motivated him to play hard on both ends of the floor. He was crafty, dirty and fundamentally sound and at 6'7" he was taller than most guys at the position and he did a good job contesting shots because of that length. Stronger players and quicker guards gave him problems but the best thing is that he put in effort at that side of the floor regardless of opposition.

The last 3-4 years of his career he obviously got worse defensively and thats the version of Miller some of the kids on here was able to see. When he retired the Pacer fan in me was actually excited because we would be able to field a better defensive team on the floor with him gone and probably play better but that never happened and the team imploded.

Lastly Drexler would have been better than Miller regardless of era. He was that good and you have to respect guys like that especially considering the accomplishments that he had.

He never made an All-Defensive team, not even one. He averaged 3.0 rebounds and 3.0 assists per game. That flat out sucks. He has zero rings. I'm old enough to have watched him play. He had some great moments but all he could do was shoot.

He was a one-trick pony.

[Phoenix]

For me it's Reggie Miller over Clyde Drexler...everybody in this thread can claim Clyde was better but not a single one of you would draft him ahead of Reggie. Reggie was before his time and he was consistent often making the ECF and elevating his teammates. Drexler is a fine player but when I look at Clyde I see a guy on level with Dantely, English, King.

As for All-NBA and MVP Reggie had two problems he was a SG behind Jordan and Dumars (two of the best teams ever) and the "next Jordan" narrative took over the MVP race

You're definitively wrong on that one.

[Reggie43]

He never made an All-Defensive team, not even one. He averaged 3.0 rebounds and 3.0 assists per game. That flat out sucks. He has zero rings. I'm old enough to have watched him play. He had some great moments but all he could do was shoot.

He was a one-trick pony.

Pretty sure you dont have to make all defense teams to be considered a decent defender or atleast someone who tried.

If Jordan himself hated the way you play defense he must have been doing something right.

[L.Kizzle]

Pretty sure you dont have to make all defense teams to be considered a decent defender or atleast someone who tried.

If Jordan himself hated the way you play defense he must have been doing something right.
Lot of grabbing and holding.

[Reggie43]

Lot of grabbing and holding.

Yep he was as dirty/crafty as it gets on both ends.

[ImKobe]

Reggie is getting underrated ITT. He did more than just shoot.. Clyde was an amazing athlete but both got to the FT line at the same rate in their primes and Reggie was capable of playing D and handling some of the playmaking duties as well, he just didn't have to do it as much as he was deadly off-ball. Most of the advanced metrics also favor Reggie in the POs despite Clyde's all-around play. Reggie's numbers also translated much better to the POs. There's definitely a case to be made for Reggie as far as their overall impact goes, Clyde obviously had the better career.

[ShawkFactory]

Nolan Ryan never got a Cy Young, Bruce Springsteen never had a #1 hit doesn't mean they weren't all-time greats. Reggie has a legacy that was put in historical perspective. Cylde was a fine player in his era but he played in an era where every team built their rosters around guys like Clyde. Also not to say Clyde used drugs but we can be 100% sure that Reggie was clean, lot of guys from that era you have to question.

These are actually great examples because both were phenomenons because of their larger than life personalities and "stuff", for lack of a better word. But when you actually put them under the microscope there are other guys that were better at their craft, and both guys tend to get overrated.