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Full Court
10-17-2022, 06:48 PM
How far do they go (assuming AD is not injured)? Do they make it past the second round of the playoffs? Are they good enough to beat the Rockets for the title?

Hey Yo
10-17-2022, 06:57 PM
Why all of a sudden does his health matter? Didn't matter to you last season, correct?

Full Court
10-17-2022, 06:59 PM
Why all of a sudden does his health matter? Didn't matter to you last season, correct?

What are you even talking about? Of course his health mattered last season. He's the best player on the Lakers. Without him they can't even make the playoffs. Who ever said his health didn't matter?

Hey Yo
10-17-2022, 07:04 PM
What are you even talking about? Of course his health mattered last season. He's the best player on the Lakers. Without him they can't even make the playoffs. Who ever said his health didn't matter?

You criticize LA for missing the playoffs. Now all of a sudden his health matters how a team performs.

Keep your trolling straight, chico

1987_Lakers
10-17-2022, 07:33 PM
Why all of a sudden does his health matter? Didn't matter to you last season, correct?

:oldlol:

AirBonner
10-17-2022, 07:38 PM
Assuming ad is not injured is like assuming the sun won’t rise. He’s guaranteed injured you dumb fvck

Reggie43
10-17-2022, 07:39 PM
They would do worse against the Knicks thats for sure. That frontline is basically designed to stop/kill a guy like AD.

SouBeachTalents
10-17-2022, 07:49 PM
They would do worse against the Knicks thats for sure. That frontline is basically designed to stop/kill a guy like AD.
And even if they managed to get past the Knicks, I shudder to think what Hakeem would do to AD.

AirBonner
10-17-2022, 07:50 PM
And even if they managed to get past the Knicks, I shudder to think what Hakeem would do to AD.

Pretty sure 3ball said somewhere ad was basically Hakeem sidekick for Bron

Axe
10-17-2022, 07:57 PM
Kobe stans and casuals during the 2020 finals: 'disney bubble ring doesn't matter!'

Kobe stans and casuals about AD: 'no AD, no playoffs! Mvp abdul jabbar of 2020 finals!'

Full Court
10-17-2022, 08:12 PM
You criticize LA for missing the playoffs. Now all of a sudden his health matters how a team performs.

Keep your trolling straight, chico

:roll: Wow you're dumb. Either that or you don't actually read what's posted.

I've said numerous times, no AD, no playoffs. And I stand by it. That implies that obviously his health matters. When he's injured, the Lakers don't make the playoffs.

My criticism is of Bronie, who without AD's help is nothing more than a lottery leader.

Full Court
10-17-2022, 08:14 PM
Kobe stans and casuals during the 2020 finals: 'disney bubble ring doesn't matter!'

Kobe stans and casuals about AD: 'no AD, no playoffs! Mvp abdul jabbar of 2020 finals!'

At this point, that's an empirical fact. :lol

MadDogg
10-17-2022, 08:39 PM
Prime AD is a better player than Pippen (overrated in general). And an all-around higher impact player as well. I would have liked to see what kinda plays Phil would run for him. The triangle would have had him closer to the basket too, instead of waiting around the three. With AD, I think Chicago makes the finals, but meet their fate vs Houston.

FultzNationRISE
10-17-2022, 08:40 PM
At this point, that's an empirical fact. :lol

Uhh, not really, because Lebron had a garbage 'young core' in 4th place by January in 2019, including a huge Xmas Day win over the defending champion Warriors, but then his groin exploded and the team collapsed without him.

If he doesnt get injured he has the worst roster in history opening the playoffs with a home court series in the bloodbath west.

Let that sink in.

Full Court
10-17-2022, 08:43 PM
Uhh, not really, because Lebron had a garbage 'young core' in 4th place by January in 2019, including a huge Xmas Day win over the defending champion Warriors, but then his groin exploded and the team collapsed without him.

If he doesnt get injured he has the worst roster in history opening the playoffs with a home court series in the bloodbath west.

Let that sink in.

I heard he routinely makes your groin explode. Is that true?

Pitbull
10-17-2022, 09:10 PM
They dont win.

Pitbull
10-17-2022, 09:11 PM
Prime AD is a better player than Pippen (overrated in general). And an all-around higher impact player as well. I would have liked to see what kinda plays Phil would run for him. The triangle would have had him closer to the basket too, instead of waiting around the three. With AD, I think Chicago makes the finals, but meet their fate vs Houston.

No. Pippen is better than AD.

3ba11
10-18-2022, 11:07 AM
People don't realize that the Bulls were barely beating the Knicks with MJ

The Bulls nearly lost to the Knicks in 92' and 93'

They were about to be swept in 94' before the Kukoc miracle changed the series, so it's no guarantee they beat the 94' Knicks even with MJ

Those Knicks were badass because they took the Rockets 7 games despite Ewing getting 18 on 35%.. They would've easily won Game 7 if Starks didn't have the worst game of his career (0-13)

dankok8
10-18-2022, 11:54 AM
2020 playoff AD on the Bulls in place of Pippen? I think that team beats the Knicks as AD outplays Ewing. And it would be a close battle with the Rockets although I do think peak Hakeem is certainly better than AD.

sdot_thadon
10-18-2022, 12:10 PM
Does AD supply the same leadership and bball intelligence Scottie does? That matters too.

3ba11
10-18-2022, 12:10 PM
2020 playoff AD on the Bulls in place of Pippen? I think that team beats the Knicks as AD outplays Ewing. And it would be a close battle with the Rockets although I do think peak Hakeem is certainly better than AD.


Can AD do this?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_qvEmm-sZbU&t=24m10s


The Bulls were nearly getting beat by the knicks WITH mj going goat clutch mode - they can't beat the Knicks without MJ.

People forget that the Bulls were about to be swept in 94' before the Kukoc miracle changed the series, so it's no guarantee they beat the 94' Knicks even with MJ

Those Knicks were badass because they took the Rockets 7 games despite Ewing getting 18 on 35%.. They would've easily won Game 7 if Starks didn't have the worst game of his career (0-13)

MadDogg
10-18-2022, 12:32 PM
No. Pippen is better than AD.

Yeah, you're wrong. AD is the better offensive player, clearly, and in his prime just as impactful of a defender. If not more so. The cherry on top is the impact stats. Where AD is also superior in.


2020 playoff AD on the Bulls in place of Pippen? I think that team beats the Knicks as AD outplays Ewing. And it would be a close battle with the Rockets although I do think peak Hakeem is certainly better than AD.

Well said, agreed.

MadDogg
10-18-2022, 12:36 PM
Can AD do this?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_qvEmm-sZbU&t=24m10s


The Bulls were nearly getting beat by the knicks WITH mj going goat clutch mode - they can't beat the Knicks without MJ.

People forget that the Bulls were about to be swept in 94' before the Kukoc miracle changed the series, so it's no guarantee they beat the 94' Knicks even with MJ

Those Knicks were badass because they took the Rockets 7 games despite Ewing getting 18 on 35%.. They would've easily won Game 7 if Starks didn't have the worst game of his career (0-13)

Who cares? The 92 & 93 Knicks were better than in 94. If Pippen could take them to 7, why wouldn't a more dominant and suitable player (AD) do that as well :confusedshrug:

ShawkFactory
10-18-2022, 07:05 PM
Who cares? The 92 & 93 Knicks were better than in 94. If Pippen could take them to 7, why wouldn't a more dominant and suitable player (AD) do that as well :confusedshrug:

Were they?

MadDogg
10-18-2022, 07:30 PM
Were they?

I believe so. You could say the 93 Knicks had a greater regular-season record, but offensively, I think they were just better than in 94. Especially in 92 though. They had Oak, Mase and Starks around Ewing in 94. In 92 though they had that PLUS Xman and Mark Jackson. That's a nasty roster given their identity.

Axe
10-18-2022, 07:46 PM
Yeah, you're wrong. AD is the better offensive player, clearly, and in his prime just as impactful of a defender. If not more so. The cherry on top is the impact stats. Where AD is also superior in.



Well said, agreed.
Lol his peak happened two years ago. Nowadays? He's closer to useless.

MadDogg
10-18-2022, 07:48 PM
Lol his peak happened two years ago. Nowadays? He's closer to useless.

Yeah his "peak" was better than Pippen's. AD has a lot to prove though. For sure.

Axe
10-18-2022, 07:52 PM
Yeah his "peak" was better than Pippen's. AD has a lot to prove though. For sure.
Lmao that is, if he can get past his injury riddles.

Full Court
10-18-2022, 10:40 PM
Yeah his "peak" was better than Pippen's. AD has a lot to prove though. For sure.

He carried the team to a Mickey Mouse ring. He's proved that the Lakers can't even make the playoffs without him.

kawhileonard2
10-18-2022, 10:40 PM
Prime AD was able to get a game off the Warriors in 2018 while peak Lebron lost 4-0 to them.

MadDogg
10-18-2022, 11:02 PM
Lmao that is, if he can get past his injury riddles.

Health is the reason AD's got more to prove. Who wants to be known as "streetclothes" lol


He carried the team to a Mickey Mouse ring. He's proved that the Lakers can't even make the playoffs without him.

Carried? Nah, but ya, AD was their best player in those playoffs. His impact carries more weight than LeBron.

TheGoatest
10-19-2022, 01:44 AM
:oldlol: The Great Scott Pippen basically did everything for the Bulls. Davis wouldn't have been able to do one third of The Great Scott Pippen's roles. He might've even averaged less than 8.7 rebounds The Great Scott Pippen averaged in 1993-94 (for example Davis averaged 7.9 rpg a couple of seasons ago).

Jay-B
10-19-2022, 10:00 AM
Since this is clearly make believe why can’t we make believe AD is completely healthy. Replacing Pippen for AD the Bulls would change their style a little but with prime AD they are for sure champs if not maybe better.

SATAN
10-19-2022, 10:05 AM
AD injured from being bullied in practice ultimately resulting in Mikey never making the finals ever. :milton