remember folks - curry will PASS lebron in rings this year.. because he is superior

[3ba11]

his expert jumpshooting skill produces a superior brand of ball that needs less help than Lebron's ball-domination, which makes Curry the superior basketball player..

Lebron's ball-domination imposes spot-up roles that stall young players, so he lacks the teammate development, fits and brand of ball to win organically and must be a talent-based winner (team-hopper... all-star team strategy).. He never learned how to win (organic) and only learned to team-hop.

Otoh, curry learned how to win (organic) because his skillset has the teammate development, fits and brand to build an organic champion from scratch.. He knows how to fit with teammates and play better basketball (brand of ball), so he's superior to Lebron and will be recognized as superior after ring #5 this year..

with curry passing lebron, this will validate everything that I've ever said about Lebron

but we saw this coming - lebron always needed equal-scoring partners to attract equal defensive attention because he can't defeat maximum defensive attention (can't carry scoring load in Finals).. indeed, ball-dominators lack sufficient brand of ball to successfully carry the scoring load against top teams (too ball-dominant), so they need all-time scoring help like Kareem, AD, Wade, Kyrie and elite 1st options to play 3rd option too.. Otoh, expert jumpshooters can carry the scoring load against top teams (sufficient brand of ball, aka ball movement), so they can win with secondary producers like Wiggins or Pippen and therefore need less help to win (superior at basketball)...

We all remember Lebron's ball-dominant 38 ppg that lost to the 09' Magic, while Mo got 18 on 38% - Curry beats top teams with this type of production from sidekicks because his brand of ball is superior - his 38 points entails zippy ball movement that destroys opponents, while Lebron's 38 is plodding ball-dominance that requires elite-scoring help like Wade or AD - his inferior brand can't win with less help like Wiggins or Pippen.

[Baller789]

Not sure about GSW going b2b.

But it would be devastating to Lebron's case of GOAT when a contemporary of his has won more.

[HylianNightmare]

I'll be pumped

[Axe]

Did op somehow forget that kd freely gave him two of them?

[Spurs m8]

My god, little b1tches like Axe and goat tits are gonnna be on suicide watch

[Axe]

:cry:
You might kill yourself once LeKong passes kareem in all-time points this season.

[SATAN]

OP has more posts on ish so he must be superior to everyone else here!

:oldlol: :facepalm

[90sgoat]

But it would be devastating to Lebron's case of GOAT when a contemporary of his has won more.

Not just one, not just two, but three contemporaries have won more:

Kobe
Duncan
Curry

And not just contemporaries but 3 players that did it on the team they were drafted.

[r15mohd]

Not just one, not just two, but three contemporaries have won more:

Kobe
Duncan
Curry

And not just contemporaries but 3 players that did it on the team they were drafted.


3 titles for Kobe came before Lebron was in the league
Kobe wasnt drafted by the Lakers

2 titles for TD pre-Lebron

Curry is the only case, and two of those he was led by KD. and ironic you count these, as it is a scenario you sideline b!tch about with 3ball with Lebron his titles, but somehow post worthy content in your favor with Curry. me wonders why!

[SATAN]

3 titles for Kobe came before Lebron was in the league
Kobe wasnt drafted by the Lakers

2 titles for TD pre-Lebron

Curry is the only case, and two of those he was led by KD.

lol Before KD it was the best regular season team of all time. Basically on a team that can afford to do anything and has great management. Great coaching. Great culture. Curry has been EXTREMELY lucky. Perhaps the luckiest star of all time.

[sdot_thadon]

Credit to great players and great coaching, but Goldenstates run all boils down to Curry's injuries early in his career that made Goldenstate offer him a pretty undervalued extension in 2012. Which in turn allowed Goldenstate to avoid having to make any tough financial decisions on their team until basically now. It's what allowed them to sign Durant outright in 2016 without losing basically anything from the winningest core ever.(unless you think that highly of Barnes)

Food for thought, in 2017 whilst being a back to back MVP Steph made $12 million, meanwhile:

Draymond Green: $15 million
Klay Thompson: $16 million
Kevin Durant: $26 million

and that's just on his own team, elsewhere:
Harden: $26 million
Griffin: $20 million
Derozan: $26 million
Kyrie Irving: $17 million
Kawhi: $17 million
Kevin Love: $21 million

Just to name a few. But yeah better and bball iq have everything to do with winning.

[1987_Lakers]

OP again showing how hypocritical he is. Has Bird ranked ahead of Magic, yet Magic won more rings despite Bird playing a "better brand of ball".

[John8204]

Also remember the greatest shooter of all-time is going to have to fight to hit 25K points

[3ba11]

Credit to great players and great coaching, but Goldenstates run all boils down to Curry's injuries early in his career that made Goldenstate offer him a pretty undervalued extension in 2012. Which in turn allowed Goldenstate to avoid having to make any tough financial decisions on their team until basically now. It's what allowed them to sign Durant outright in 2016 without losing basically anything from the winningest core ever.(unless you think that highly of Barnes)

Food for thought, in 2017 whilst being a back to back MVP Steph made $12 million, meanwhile:

Draymond Green: $15 million
Klay Thompson: $16 million
Kevin Durant: $26 million

and that's just on his own team, elsewhere:
Harden: $26 million
Griffin: $20 million
Derozan: $26 million
Kyrie Irving: $17 million
Kawhi: $17 million
Kevin Love: $21 million

Just to name a few. But yeah better and bball iq have everything to do with winning.


All the salary cap stuff is nice, but none of that works without the right personnel.

Specifically, it's easier for GM's to build a champion with a team of cheap defenders, except for one thing - it requires a 1st option that can carry the scoring load, which isn't a ball-dominator.. At carry-job volumes, ball-dominators lack sufficient brand of ball to successfully carry the scoring load against top teams (too ball-dominant), so GM's must find all-time scoring help like Kareem, AD, Wade or Kyrie.. Otoh, expert jumpshooters like Curry or MJ can maintain brand of ball at carry-job volumes, so they can carry the scoring load against top teams and allow a GM to fill out the roster with secondary producers and cheap defenders.

[sdot_thadon]

All the salary cap stuff is nice, but none of that works without the right personnel.

Specifically, it's easier for GM's to build a champion with a team of cheap defenders, except for one thing - it requires a 1st option that can carry the scoring load, which isn't a ball-dominator.. At carry-job volumes, ball-dominators lack sufficient brand of ball to successfully carry the scoring load against top teams (too ball-dominant), so GM's must find all-time scoring help like Kareem, AD, Wade or Kyrie.. Otoh, expert jumpshooters like Curry or MJ can maintain brand of ball at carry-job volumes, so they can carry the scoring load against top teams and allow a GM to fill out the roster with secondary producers and cheap defenders.

You're just super short sighted on what it takes to win man. If you give Lebron Klay in his 3rd season, 2006, then add Barnes and Dray in 2007 (the year he already makes the finals) Then in his 8th season adding Durant outright, rather than going to Miami to get proper help.....his career is much different. Won't list them all, but take this scenario and use a few other top 10 players' roster additions in the place of his. The help they received at early points of their careers as opposed to what Lebron had will open your eyes.

[3ba11]

You're just super short sighted on what it takes to win man. If you give Lebron Klay in his 3rd season, 2006, then add Barnes and Dray in 2007 (the year he already makes the finals) Then in his 8th season adding Durant outright, rather than going to Miami to get proper help.....his career is much different. Won't list them all, but take this scenario and use a few other top 10 players' roster additions in the place of his. The help they received at early points of their careers as opposed to what Lebron had will open your eyes.


You're taking Curry's accomplishment (winning with Klay) and assigning it to Lebron - you're assuming Lebron could've won a damn TITLE (let alone dynasty) with Klay when he couldn't even beat Dwight with Mo Williams and Zydrunas.. He also couldn't get out of the 2nd Round with Mo at 3rd option in 2010, while squandering 22/9 Jamison (reducing him to 15/8)... All of this occurred as a massive favorite - historic favorite against Dwight (-700) and massive favorite against Boston (-500).

Klay is a secondary producer like Mo that requires the 1st option to carry the scoring load - this carry-job must be done with a good brand of ball against top teams, and Lebron failed to do this against Dwight in 2009... accordingly, he lost with Mo's 18 on 38%, while Curry is forced to win with that crap all the time from Klay... the whole point is that lebron can't carry the scoring load in the Finals, so he can't win with secondary producers that require carrying like Klay or Wiggins or Pippen.. He needs elite 1st options and all-time scorers at sidekick like AD, Wade or Kyrie.

[100grandman]

Klay is a secondary producer like Mo that requires the 1st option to carry the scoring load - this carry-job must be done with a good brand of ball against top teams, and Lebron failed to do this against Dwight in 2009... accordingly, he lost with Mo's 18 on 38%, while Curry is forced to win with that crap all the time from Klay... the whole point is that lebron can't carry the scoring load in the Finals, so he can't win with secondary producers that require carrying like Klay or Wiggins or Pippen.. He needs elite 1st options and all-time scorers at sidekick like AD, Wade or Kyrie.

Curry needed KD for two of those rings. And Bron beat Curry head to head when they had the greatest regular season record all time.

[3ba11]

Curry needed KD for two of those rings. And Bron beat Curry head to head when they had the greatest regular season record all time.


people forget that durant broke lebron's collusion record - lebron's "decision" locked down the league with 3 chips in 6 years and preseason favorite status for 6 straight years (11-16') - so Lebron enjoyed the same unprecedented advantage that Durant had but for much longer (6 year headstart in the colluding space).

so curry got to easy rings but lebron got 4 and a bunch of manufactured Finals trips (by consolidating power in the conference, aka teaming up with the top two 1st options in the conference)

[Spurs m8]

Curry has organic rings and an organic fmvp

LeBron has zero

[bison]

Curry has organic rings and an organic fmvp

LeBron has zero

Farmer Dingo's 100% Natural, Home-Grown organic rings.

*No processed rings
*No artificial rosters
*No PEDs
*Team mates raised in ethically sound, cage-free environment

[Sportal]

It's only a team sport when LeBron is stacking the deck with Carlos Arroyo, Mario Chalmers, Mike Bibby, James Jones, Joel Anthony, Udonis Haslem, and Mike Miller.

Curry has had better teams, what is your point? If you listed all the players Curry and LeBron have played with at the precise times in their careers, not just names like you like to do, like dropping "LeBron couldn't win with (12pts/10rebs) Shaq", I think you'll find that ultimately, outside of the top5 players, Curry has had a lot better players on his team.

Statements like, outside of Wade and Bosh on the Heatles, Iggie, Livingston, Draymond, Wiggins etc are far better players than LeBron had on the Heat and the Cavs(Kyrie and Love)...

[Spurs m8]

Farmer Dingo's 100% Natural, Home-Grown organic rings.

*No processed rings
*No artificial rosters
*No PEDs
*Team mates raised in ethically sound, cage-free environment

This is the kind of ring farmer I respect.

[Shooter]

Not just one, not just two, but three contemporaries have won more:

Kobe
Duncan
Curry

And not just contemporaries but 3 players that did it on the team they were drafted.

FMVP

LBJ = 4
Duncan = 3
KD = 2
Kobe = 2
Curry = 1

Thanks for playing :pimp:

[Shooter]

Farmer Dingo's 100% Natural, Home-Grown organic rings.

*No processed rings
*No artificial rosters
*No PEDs
*Team mates raised in ethically sound, cage-free environment

*No FInals MVPs after five tries

[sdot_thadon]

You're taking Curry's accomplishment (winning with Klay) and assigning it to Lebron - you're assuming Lebron could've won a damn TITLE (let alone dynasty) with Klay when he couldn't even beat Dwight with Mo Williams and Zydrunas.. He also couldn't get out of the 2nd Round with Mo at 3rd option in 2010, while squandering 22/9 Jamison (reducing him to 15/8)... All of this occurred as a massive favorite - historic favorite against Dwight (-700) and massive favorite against Boston (-500).

Klay is a secondary producer like Mo that requires the 1st option to carry the scoring load - this carry-job must be done with a good brand of ball against top teams, and Lebron failed to do this against Dwight in 2009... accordingly, he lost with Mo's 18 on 38%, while Curry is forced to win with that crap all the time from Klay... the whole point is that lebron can't carry the scoring load in the Finals, so he can't win with secondary producers that require carrying like Klay or Wiggins or Pippen.. He needs elite 1st options and all-time scorers at sidekick like AD, Wade or Kyrie.

No that's where you're wrong, Mo isn't anywhere near Klay as a player. Klay is a firecracker that never even needs to touch the ball aside from launching a jumper. He's also borderline elite defender. Oh and Klay shows up for big games.

[Axe]

Curry has organic rings and an organic fmvp

LeBron has zero
You think his rings with kd are organic? Dumbass m8.

[Baller789]

lol Before KD it was the best regular season team of all time. Basically on a team that can afford to do anything and has great management. Great coaching. Great culture. Curry has been EXTREMELY lucky. Perhaps the luckiest star of all time.

Luck is code for people trying to explain their butthurt.

And we seen how successful KD is leading his teams when outside GSW.