How many straight Finals for Joker if he team up with the top two 1st options in West

[3ba11]

Let's say Kawhi and Karl Anthony Towns (KAT)

And when these guys get old in 4 years, Joker will team up with Ja Morant and Chet Holmgren (who is 2nd team All-NBA by then)

If he consolidated power like this from 3 teams in the West and then made 8 straight Finals, would that be worthy of #2 all-time or a goat debate?

[RRR3]

LeBron has ruined your life

[3ba11]

LeBron has ruined your life



No, I ruined yours

Now it's a simple question - how many straight Finals and worthy of goat debate?

[StrongLurk]

No, I ruined yours

Now it's a simple question - how many straight Finals and worthy of goat debate?

:roll:

This 3ball dude is such a loser

[bison]

LeBron has ruined your life

You make as much threads about 3ball as he does about lebron. Except one is a world famous basketball player and the other is some dude on a messageboard. Guess who that makes more pathetic between you and 3ball

[Sportal]

LeBron has ruined your life

When he gets up to eat his Cheetos for breakfast, do you think he's already got the shakes because he hasn't made another thread about LeBron yet...?

[AirBonner]

Kawhi is always injured and kat is a mental midget. So 0 titles

[Spurs m8]

At least 12

[AirBonner]

At least 12

Nah that’s your iq you stupid fvcking cvnt

[post]

how many if you give him a pippen level player which he's never been close to having so far

[3ba11]

how many if you give him a pippen level player which he's never been close to having so far


2020 Playoffs


Jamal Murray...... 27/5/7 on 63 TS
Nikola Jokic........ 24/9/6 on 61 TS


So Joker already failed with a guy that played better than Pippen ever did

[post]

2020 Playoffs


Jamal Murray...... 27/5/7 on 63 TS
Nikola Jokic........ 24/9/6 on 61 TS


So Joker already failed with a guy that played better than Pippen ever did

denver lost to a team with 2 all time greats and better role players

pippen made 17 all nba and all defense teams combined

if murray or porter ever even make an all star team let me know

[Full Court]

Not five, not six, not seven....


But for real though. :lol

[iamgine]

Why op got to put (KAT) after Karl Anthony Towns? :lol

[3ba11]

Jokic and denver lost to a team with 2 all time greats in 2020





Jordan beat teams that had 2 all-time greats like Magic/Worthy or Shaq/Penny or Malone/Stockton despite never getting 27/5/7 from Pippen or having Pippen lead the scoring like Murray did for the entire playoff run.

So Jokic simply couldn't win despite getting more help from Murray than Jordan ever got from Pippen.. That's why Jordan is goat - he won 6 Finals with 19 on 42% from Pippen (Wiggins-caliber).. Pippen never played above an Iggy or Wiggins-caliber - always a non-dominant, secondary producer - but the winning spotlight inflated him to all-time status and media award.

[SouBeachTalents]

Jordan beat teams that had 2 all-time greats like Magic/Worthy or Shaq/Penny or Malone/Stockton despite never getting 27/5/7 from Pippen or having Pippen lead the scoring like Murray did.

So Jokic simply couldn't win despite getting more help than Jordan ever got from Pippen.. That's why Jordan is goat - he won 6 Finals with 19 on 42% from Pippen (Wiggins-caliber).. Pippen never played above an Iggy or Wiggins-caliber (always a non-dominant, secondary producer), but the winning spotlight inflated him to all-time status and media award.
LeBron/AD is easily better than all those duos you listed. Lol at comparing Worthy and past prime Stockton to two top 5 players.

[3ba11]

LeBron/AD is easily better than all those duos you listed. Lol at comparing Worthy and past prime Stockton to two top 5 players.


Magic was FMVP with goat performance at 20 years old, while Lebron was literally worst-ever against championship comp until 2012, aka massive bed wettings in 07' Finals, 08' Semis, 10' Semis and 11' Finals (and 13' Finals thru 6 games before the miracle).. Again, Magic was winning titles and dominating goat teams this entire time.

So there's tons of actual evidence that Magic's higher ring count was infact superior, while everyone agrees that Shaq's peak performance and achievement was superior (40/20 + three-peat).

aka Magic and Shaq are very comparable to Lebron and perhaps superior, while Penny was top 5 in 1996 just like AD.. Meanwhile, Worthy/Stockton carried their teams to the 87' and 97' Finals just like 20' AD.

So again, your foolish dismissal of Magic, Shaq, Worthy, Penny and Stockton flies in the face of the facts.

In addition to Shaq/Penny or Magic/Worthy being comparable to Lebron/AD, Jordan won with less help by never getting 27/5/7 from Pippen like Jokic got from Murray.

So you're wrong across the board and on many levels as usual

[post]

Jordan beat teams that had 2 all-time greats like Magic/Worthy or Shaq/Penny or Malone/Stockton despite never getting 27/5/7 from Pippen or having Pippen lead the scoring like Murray did for the entire playoff run.

So Jokic simply couldn't win despite getting more help from Murray than Jordan ever got from Pippen.. That's why Jordan is goat - he won 6 Finals with 19 on 42% from Pippen (Wiggins-caliber).. Pippen never played above an Iggy or Wiggins-caliber - always a non-dominant, secondary producer - but the winning spotlight inflated him to all-time status and media award.

jokic had a higher per and bpm and murray had a higher ws48 and raptor

murray overachieved/got hot

it basically happens all the time in the playoffs

whereas jokic's career regular and post season numbers are better than most to ever play the game

[post]

LeBron/AD is easily better than all those duos you listed. Lol at comparing Worthy and past prime Stockton to two top 5 players.

he has always seemed very insecure about jordan and the competition jordan played and has a lifelong agenda against pippen and role players

3ball in a nutshell

waste of time basically

[Axe]

he has always seemed very insecure about jordan and the competition jordan played and has a lifelong agenda against pippen and role players

3ball in a nutshell

waste of time basically
Very accurate. I really think he should spend more time hanging in the playground instead of lurking itb.

[Shooter]

LeBron has ruined your life

:roll:

[3ba11]

jokic had a higher per and bpm and murray had a higher ws48 and raptor





Great so Murray was better and led the team

Otoh, Pippen never led in WS/48 and was actually 4th on the 94' Bulls in playoff WS/48 (behind Grant, BJ, Kukoc) and 2nd in BPM to Kukoc.

Unfortunately, Joker couldn't win with Murray's superior production, so Murray didn't get media award like Pippen.. Otoh, MJ won with Pippen's crap production, so Pippen got media accolade (winning spotlight inflation)






murray overachieved/got hot

it basically happens all the time in the playoffs





Except for Pippen.... There are zero examples of Pippen playing above an Iggy or Wiggins-caliber in a single series, let alone playoff run.

And therein lies the rub - Murray averaged 27/5/7 for the entire playoff run of 19 games - this led the team... So he didn't just "get hot" - he was a dominant performer but Joker couldn't win with it so Murray never got media accolade.. Otoh, Jordan won with Pippen's low production, thereby elevating Pippen to media accolade (winning spotlight inflation)

Pippen is the only 90"s sidekick that couldn't achieve elite stats and take over a series.. Guys like Terry Porter were shooting 53% on threes (6 attempts) and averaging 26/6/8 to carry the Blazers to the 92' Finals (and 90')... KJ dominated Magic in 90' and Hakeem twice in 94' and 95'.... Penny, Kemp and Stockton also dominated and carried their teams to the Finals..






whereas jokic's career regular and post season numbers are better than most to ever play the game





Jordan is #1 all-time in PER, BPM, and WS/48 for the regular season and playoffs, while having 5 of the top 7 VORP seasons (VORP must be measured by seasons because it's an accumulation stat based on games played (minutes played).

Jordans's superior production rate and dominance is why he could win with lower-producers like Pippen, thereby elevating him to media accolade, while Joker's inferior domination can't elevate superior producers like Murray.

[post]

Great so Murray was better and led the team

Otoh, Pippen never led in WS/48 and was actually 4th on the 94' Bulls in playoff WS/48 (behind Grant, BJ, Kukoc) and 2nd in BPM to Kukoc.

Unfortunately, Joker couldn't win with Murray's superior production, so Murray didn't get media award like Pippen.. Otoh, MJ won with Pippen's crap production, so Pippen got media accolade (winning spotlight inflation)






Except for Pippen.... There are zero examples of Pippen playing above an Iggy or Wiggins-caliber in a single series, let alone playoff run.

And therein lies the rub - Murray averaged 27/5/7 for the entire playoff run of 19 games - this led the team... So he didn't just "get hot" - he was a dominant performer but Joker couldn't win with it so Murray never got media accolade.. Otoh, Jordan won with Pippen's low production, thereby elevating Pippen to media accolade (winning spotlight inflation)

Pippen is the only 90"s sidekick that couldn't achieve elite stats and take over a series.. Guys like Terry Porter were shooting 53% on threes (6 attempts) and averaging 26/6/8 to carry the Blazers to the 92' Finals (and 90')... KJ dominated Magic in 90' and Hakeem twice in 94' and 95'.... Penny, Kemp and Stockton also dominated and carried their teams to the Finals..






Jordan is #1 all-time in PER, BPM, and WS/48 for the regular season and playoffs, while having 5 of the top 7 VORP seasons (VORP must be measured by seasons because it's an accumulation stat based on games played (minutes played).

Jordans's superior production rate and dominance is why he could win with lower-producers like Pippen, thereby elevating him to media accolade, while Joker's inferior domination can't elevate superior producers like Murray.

did you see joker's monster game tonight

he's coming for your boy

[Spurs m8]

No one cares about the bubble lol

[3ba11]

did you see joker's monster game tonight

he's coming for your boy


I'll wait for him to make the Finals once with Murray's 27/7, let alone win 6 with Murray getting 19/7 on trash efficiency like Pippen..

By actually winning, his sidekicks might actually get All-NBA

[post]

I'll wait for him to make the Finals once with Murray's 27/7, let alone win 6 with Murray getting 19/7 on trash efficiency like Pippen..

By actually winning, his sidekicks might actually get All-NBA

he's already won in my mind

the futile war against him will continue but fail

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