Does losing boost LeBrons legacy?

[Mr. Jabbar]

yes.

winning would also boost it. you see, lebron haters are in a pretty bad situation here. pick your poison lads

[TheGoatest]

Losing in the finals certainly boosts it way more than losing (being swept) in the first round.
Especially considering that he ended up winning more finals than the bookies projected him to win.

[FultzNationRISE]

Losing in the finals certainly boosts it way more than losing (being swept) in the first round.
Especially considering that he ended up winning more finals than the bookies projected him to win.


A source of frustration to MJ - for multiple reasons.

[LeGoat4Life]

Only to Lebron stans,

They celebrate losing

[Im Still Ballin]

well well well

[3ba11]

Losing in the finals certainly boosts it way more than losing (being swept) in the first round.
Especially considering that he ended up winning more finals than the bookies projected him to win.



Yearly Preseason favorites (on-paper, talent favorite)

2011 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2011_preseason_odds.html).... Heat
2012 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2011_preseason_odds.html).... Heat
2013 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2011_preseason_odds.html).... Heat
2014 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2011_preseason_odds.html).... Heat
2015 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2011_preseason_odds.html).... Cavs
2016 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2011_preseason_odds.html).... Cavs


^^^ Lebron's team had favored talent every year - but once they actually started playing basketball, this favored talent yielded a bad, underdog team due to weak brand of ball, while peers like Curry/Kawhi flirt with 70 wins (better brands of ball)

This is the historical record, not opinion.. There's historical dates associated with all of this.

Ultimately, who cares about losing with rookie 8 seeds (common) - it's the losing with high seeds, or while in your prime, or with all-star teammates, favorites, and Finals teams that matters.

Btw, people forget that Klay/Dray hadn't been all-stars yet heading into the 2015 season, while Kyrie/Love were perennial all-stars and All-NBA.. Indeed, the Warriors were a newbie team that barely beat an injured Cavs team, so they would have no chance against Shaq "s 4 all-star Lakers or Duncan/Popovich/Robinson in 98', whereas the Jazz ragdolled these teams.

[TheGoatest]

A source of frustration to MJ - for multiple reasons.

No doubt. It kills Foolish jordon extremists to know that the era he won in had such poor competition compared to his ultra-stacked team that not once was he considered an underdog.

[3ba11]

No doubt. It kills Foolish jordon extremists to know that the era he won in had such poor competition compared to his ultra-stacked team that not once was he considered an underdog.


Jordan was the underdog heading into the 91' season because he had to topple a dynasty

Otoh, Lebron was always the favorite heading into any championship season because he always starts by being gifted a super-team and preseason favorite.. he never had to build anything or overcome anything - he always starts as the favorite

[dankok8]

Absolutely. And conversely, winning hurts Lebron's legacy. If he were to win one more championship, it would destroy his legacy!

[3ba11]

The types of losses that matter are losses with high seeds, losses in your prime, losses with Finals teams, losses with all-star teammates and losses as the favorite

Lebron has a ton of all these, while Jordan has the least

[Axe]

Imagine losing and still haters talk about him.

[Spuddywebby]

Not sure about his legacy but after this season he may be considered the GOAT tank commander.

[Ne 1]

No amount of Lakers losses will change the fact that the Washington Wizards had the self-proclaimed GOAT and won 0 championships. Meanwhile LeBron brought gold to LA and is one step closer to erasing Kareem from the history books.

[FultzNationRISE]

No amount of Lakers losses will change the fact that the Washington Wizards had the self-proclaimed GOAT and won 0 championships. Meanwhile LeBron brought gold to LA and is one step closer to erasing Kareem from the history books.


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:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

[Full Court]

If losing boosted Bronie's legacy then he would be undisputed GOAT. Because he's done pleeeeeeeeeeeeenty of losing in his career. :lol

[ArbitraryWater]

precisely, Jabbar.

[Axe]

According to jackass casuals, dwight howard, derrick rose and paul george had better careers than lebron james. :bowdown:

[Full Court]

According to the low-IQ Bronies who only value cumulative longevity stats, Carmelo Anthony is a top ten player of all time. :roll:

[Axe]

Losing in the finals certainly boosts it way more than losing (being swept) in the first round.
Especially considering that he ended up winning more finals than the bookies projected him to win.
:lebronamazed:

[Full Court]

Losing in the finals certainly boosts it way more than losing (being swept) in the first round.
Especially considering that he ended up winning more finals than the bookies projected him to win.

I wonder how much Foolish GoatTits values leading a super team to the LOTTERY for a legacy. :lol

[Pitbull]

:rolleyes:

[Axe]

while Jordan has the least
So how many winning seasons did he have without scottie pippen?

[Legend248]

No amount of Lakers losses will change the fact that the Washington Wizards had the self-proclaimed GOAT and won 0 championships. Meanwhile LeBron brought gold to LA and is one step closer to erasing Kareem from the history books.

Are you sure you dumb mother ****er? Lebums first year with the lakers he missed the playoffs right? So he ended up "Injured"? lmao. But when AD came, they won that first year, so why do yall bronsexuals always give leBUM all the ****ing credit when they win? When they lose you NEVER blame him? Tired of it......**** you

[3ba11]

So how many winning seasons did he have without scottie pippen?


No one else could win with Pippen - even with a 17 point lead in the 4th quarter - literally

[TheGoatest]

According to the low-IQ Bronies who only value cumulative longevity stats, Carmelo Anthony is a top ten player of all time. :roll:

No, his sub 3.5K career assist/sub 2K career playoff point having ass isn't. :oldlol: You tried your best with the most extreme example you could find, and Carmelo probably isn't even top 30 based on longevity stats alone.
But Carmelo sure is higher on all-time lists than Robert Horry, who according to the "logic" of Foolish jordon extremist alts like yourself, is a top 5 player of all time. Ironically, even higher than Foolish jordon himself. :roll:

[Spurs m8]

If losing boosted Bronie's legacy then he would be undisputed GOAT. Because he's done pleeeeeeeeeeeeenty of losing in his career. :lol

Fvck, it's FINALLY starting to make sense

[Sulico]

No, it is not. If they don't do something quick, next couple of years could become bigger stain on Lebron's career than Wizards years on MJ's career.

[TheGoatest]

No, it is not. If they don't do something quick, next couple of years could become bigger stain on Lebron's career than Wizards years on MJ's career.

A 20th and 21st season could never even remotely come close to a 14th and 15th season in terms of being legacy-tarnishing.

[FultzNationRISE]

A 20th and 21st season could never even remotely come close to a 14th and 15th season in terms of being legacy-tarnishing.


Bingo.

[Full Court]

No, his sub 3.5K career assist/sub 2K career playoff point having ass isn't. :oldlol: You tried your best with the most extreme example you could find, and Carmelo probably isn't even top 30 based on longevity stats alone.
But Carmelo sure is higher on all-time lists than Robert Horry, who according to the "logic" of Foolish jordon extremist alts like yourself, is a top 5 player of all time. Ironically, even higher than Foolish jordon himself. :roll:

Foolish GoatTits in an utter meltdown. :roll:

Is it because your hero is 0-4 so far this season?


:lebronamazed:

[TheGoatest]

Foolish GoatTits in an utter meltdown. :roll:

Is it because your hero is 0-4 so far this season?


:lebronamazed:

Keep spamming garbage posts that help you deal with LeBron passing Kareem. :roll:

[beau_boy04]

winning or losing won't do much to his legacy. in fact losing will degrade his legacy even further. his stats don't mean anything, doesn't impact the win column. he knows the lakers suckass, so hes been stat padding for 2 seasons at least.

[Full Court]

Keep spamming garbage posts that help you deal with LeBron passing Kareem. :roll:

Fring top ten.

Suck on that, Foolish GoatTits.

:roll:

[TheMan]

If Bran had any shred of dignity, he would retire. Absolutely no chance at competing for a title, has no impact whatsoever on the games his team is playing. All he's doing is pathetic stat padding. Damaging his already tarnished legacy :facepalm As young stars take over the league, this dude is becoming more irrelevant with each passing game. :(

[TheGoatest]

Fring top ten.

Suck on that, Foolish GoatTits.

:roll:

Orlando McGrady/Houston Harden until The Great Scott Pippen saved his career. :roll:


If Bran had any shred of dignity, he would retire.

Not even trying to hide how SHOOK you are about LeBron passing Kareem. :roll:

[1987_Lakers]

If Bran had any shred of dignity, he would retire. Absolutely no chance at competing for a title, has no impact whatsoever on the games his team is playing. All he's doing is pathetic stat padding. Damaging his already tarnished legacy :facepalm As young stars take over the league, this dude is becoming more irrelevant with each passing game. :(

Classic, coming from an MJ fan who's last seasons with the Wizards are looked at as a joke.

[Airupthere]

If Bran had any shred of dignity, he would retire. Absolutely no chance at competing for a title, has no impact whatsoever on the games his team is playing. All he's doing is pathetic stat padding. Damaging his already tarnished legacy :facepalm As young stars take over the league, this dude is becoming more irrelevant with each passing game. :(

I don't think there is a lot of respect or reverence for him from the younger players in the league as much as the other greats did. He milked this game and just made it all about himself. He should retire. His game is not something to watch nowadays. Plus the cringe stuff he continually comes out with. Cryptic messages, finger pointing, etc.. He should be acting his age. Should be feeling quite secure by now but still is quite insecure at his age and years in the league.

[RogueBorg]

6 rings/15 seasons >>> 4 rings/20 seasons

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[Baller789]

I don't think there is a lot of respect or reverence for him from the younger players in the league as much as the other greats did. He milked this game and just made it all about himself. He should retire. His game is not something to watch nowadays. Plus the cringe stuff he continually comes out with. Cryptic messages, finger pointing, etc.. He should be acting his age. Should be feeling quite secure by now but still is quite insecure at his age and years in the league.

Pretty accurate.

Lebron is too long in the tooth.

[John8204]

No but it boosts his trade value

[TheGoatest]

Classic, coming from an MJ fan who's last seasons with the Wizards are looked at as a joke.

LeBron was All-NBA third team in his last/19th season, despite having played only 56 games.
Foolish jordon wouldn't have even been All-NBA 4th team, in either his 14th or 15th seasons as a Wizard.
Yet the alts have the audacity to talk about LeBron retiring. :roll:

[RogueBorg]

Yet the alts have the audacity to talk about LeBron retiring. :roll:

I don't want him to retire, I'm enjoying the $hit show.

All the blame going to Russ.
Russ sits.
Lebron has 8 turnovers and goes 2-8 from 3.

It doesn't get any better than that.