View Full Version : jokic "i want to be the tim duncan of the denver nuggets"
"but i need a couple championships to be him"
perhaps he can convince robinson and ginobili to come out of retirement
throw in a kawhi draft pick somewhere
etc.
FultzNationRISE
10-28-2022, 06:19 PM
Low key just lost some respect for him wanting to be the Duncan of his team instead of the Lebron.
How bout a little ambition, bro?
90sgoat
10-28-2022, 06:24 PM
Lol.
Murray is no Parker, MPJ is no Ginobili and their coach (who I can't remember who is) is no Pops.
bullettooth
10-28-2022, 06:31 PM
Low key just lost some respect for him wanting to be the Duncan of his team instead of the Lebron.
How bout a little ambition, bro?
You'd respect him more if he jumped ship and colluded instead?
The **** is wrong with you?
Full Court
10-28-2022, 06:31 PM
He's setting his sights high. Good for him.
MadDogg
10-28-2022, 06:37 PM
Then he's gonna have to start impacting the defensive end. Like the mentality though.
Airupthere
10-28-2022, 06:37 PM
Good player to model your career after. Glad he’s not thinking of colluding in others teams as a career path.
FultzNationRISE
10-28-2022, 06:53 PM
Then he's gonna have to start impacting the defensive end. Like the mentality though.
Im not sure this is possible for 7 footers today the same way it was for Duncan. Even a defensive specialist like Toody gets habitually cooked. Embiid is very agile for his size but still gets put on skates at times. Teams are so good on the perimeter now they can force bigs to come out where theyre less effective.
The best defensive bigs now seem to be quicker, springy guys like Robert Williams, but the tradeoff is they lack the girth to be dominant post players offensively.
I’m not sure even Duncan himself could be Duncan in today’s game. It just comes down to how the game has evolved. Teams are much more advanced in knowing how to punish centers defensively.
Baller789
10-28-2022, 07:06 PM
Im not sure this is possible for 7 footers today the same way it was for Duncan. Even a defensive specialist like Toody gets habitually cooked. Embiid is very agile for his size but still gets put on skates at times. Teams are so good on the perimeter now they can force bigs to come out where theyre less effective.
The best defensive bigs now seem to be quicker, springy guys like Robert Williams, but the tradeoff is they lack the girth to be dominant post players offensively.
I’m not sure even Duncan himself could be Duncan in today’s game. It just comes down to how the game has evolved. Teams are much more advanced in knowing how to punish centers defensively.
Old man Duncan played in the 3 point era. And he looked fine.
FultzNationRISE
10-28-2022, 07:15 PM
Old man Duncan played in the 3 point era. And he looked fine.
Offenses have evolved significantly even in just the last five years.
Micku
10-28-2022, 09:47 PM
Im not sure this is possible for 7 footers today the same way it was for Duncan. Even a defensive specialist like Toody gets habitually cooked. Embiid is very agile for his size but still gets put on skates at times. Teams are so good on the perimeter now they can force bigs to come out where theyre less effective.
The best defensive bigs now seem to be quicker, springy guys like Robert Williams, but the tradeoff is they lack the girth to be dominant post players offensively.
I’m not sure even Duncan himself could be Duncan in today’s game. It just comes down to how the game has evolved. Teams are much more advanced in knowing how to punish centers defensively.
Duncan would adapt. He was great defensively. But I would assume his offense would change. He might stretch his range to the 3pt line or attack more downlow because teams are playing more small ball, and he could punish that more. But he could hit the mid range too. Solid passer from the post. It just depends on how the coach would play him.
But good on Jokic for having that type of ambition. Good luck to him and the nuggets franchise and fans.
MadDogg
10-28-2022, 10:05 PM
Im not sure this is possible for 7 footers today the same way it was for Duncan. Even a defensive specialist like Toody gets habitually cooked. Embiid is very agile for his size but still gets put on skates at times. Teams are so good on the perimeter now they can force bigs to come out where theyre less effective.
The best defensive bigs now seem to be quicker, springy guys like Robert Williams, but the tradeoff is they lack the girth to be dominant post players offensively.
I’m not sure even Duncan himself could be Duncan in today’s game. It just comes down to how the game has evolved. Teams are much more advanced in knowing how to punish centers defensively.
Not really. Duncan would be totally fine and just as dominant if not moreso. Sure his defense might take a hit, but his offense gets a boost because of 1) softer rules & 2) weaker bigmen. So there's a clear tradeoff.
Anyway, nobody is asking Jokic to play on Duncan's level defensively. Just to have a significant impact.
Then he's gonna have to start impacting the defensive end. Like the mentality though.
he does
the myth that he doesn't will die hard
Druckenmiller
10-29-2022, 12:06 AM
Good for him. Right now though he’s more Steve Nash of the Denver Nuggets than Tim Duncan of the Denver Nuggets.
When a championship or two then we’ll talk.
FultzNationRISE
10-29-2022, 12:13 AM
he does
the myth that he doesn't will die hard
He contests the rim decently but he does struggle to keep up with all the motion of opponents. Hes impressively nimble for a man his size, but hes still usually the most lumbering player on the court now that a lot of teams play tweeners at center. Just cant recover as quickly at his stature to keep up with guys once they get a step on him.
Good for him. Right now though he’s more Steve Nash of the Denver Nuggets than Tim Duncan of the Denver Nuggets.
When a championship or two then we’ll talk.
k boss
He contests the rim decently but he does struggle to keep up with all the motion of opponents. Hes impressively nimble for a man his size, but hes still usually the most lumbering player on the court now that a lot of teams play tweeners at center. Just cant recover as quickly at his stature to keep up with guys once they get a step on him.
there's a bigger more complicated picture that i don't really feel like painting
Baller789
10-29-2022, 02:56 AM
Offenses have evolved significantly even in just the last five years.
Even so. Duncan was pretty athletic in his prime and one of the smartest players ever. He'd adapt.
He probably wont be as dominant defensively, but he wont be a liability either.
And on offense, remember how an old Duncan sonned a prime Cousins when he got pissed.
BigShotBob
10-29-2022, 10:16 AM
Even so. Duncan was pretty athletic in his prime and one of the smartest players ever. He'd adapt.
He probably wont be as dominant defensively, but he wont be a liability either.
And on offense, remember how an old Duncan sonned a prime Cousins when he got pissed.
People overstate the "Advancement" of offenses which just boils down to going one on one off a switch and spreading the floor
No one picks on Steven Adams one on one or Jonas Valancucias consistently every play
kawhileonard2
10-30-2022, 01:24 AM
"but i need a couple championships to be him"
perhaps he can convince robinson and ginobili to come out of retirement
throw in a kawhi draft pick somewhere
etc.
With better stats.
Paolo Banchero
10-30-2022, 01:30 AM
Duncan had 2 rings AT Jokic age.
People overstate the "Advancement" of offenses which just boils down to going one on one off a switch and spreading the floor
No one picks on Steven Adams one on one or Jonas Valancucias consistently every play
thanks for the narrative
With better stats.
sounds like a terror
Duncan had 2 rings AT Jokic age.
cool
Jasper
10-30-2022, 10:06 AM
"but i need a couple championships to be him"
perhaps he can convince robinson and ginobili to come out of retirement
throw in a kawhi draft pick somewhere
etc.
he has nailed it down.
LeGoat4Life
10-30-2022, 02:35 PM
Smart man
All these players all wants to be Duncan or Kobe
No one wants to be like Lebron lol. Having a Lebron career is aiming too low
Any jabroni can easily accomplish what lebronze has lololol
Paolo Banchero
10-30-2022, 02:44 PM
cool
Just wanted to mention the fact.
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