Rank these five players...Hill, McGrady, Webber, Mourning, Allen

[John8204]

Ray Allen
10 All-Star
2 Rings
2 All-NBA
Points 24,505 (18.9 ppg)
Rebounds 5,272 (4.1 rpg)
Assists 4,361 (3.4 apg)

Tracy McGrady
7 All-Star
7 All-NBA
2 Scoring Champion
Points 18,381 (19.6 ppg)
Rebounds 5,276 (5.6 rpg)
Assists 4,161 (4.4 apg)

Alonzo Mourning
7 All Star
1 Ring
2 DPOY
Points 14,311 (17.1 ppg)
Rebounds 7,137 (8.5 rpg)
Blocks 2,356 (2.8 bpg)

Grant Hill
7 All Star
5 All-NBA
ROTY
Points 17,137 (16.7 ppg)
Rebounds 6,169 (6.0 rpg)
Assists 4,252 (4.1 apg)

Chris Webber
5 All-Star
5 All-NBA
#1 Draft Pick
ROTY
Points 17,182 (20.7 ppg)
Rebounds 8,124 (9.8 rpg)
Assists 3,526 (4.2 apg)

[Paolo Banchero]

Tracy McGrady
Ray Allen
Grant Hill
Chris Webber
Alonzo Mourning

[Paolo Banchero]

Injuries and lack of teammates about TMAC

[Sulico]

Ray Allen
Chris Webber
Tracy McGrady
Grant Hill
Alonzo Mourning

[Paolo Banchero]

Ray will get overrated cause of rings. But they were as role players ( bench with the Heat, 3rd best player on Boston)

[Sulico]

Ray will get overrated cause of rings. But they were as role players ( bench with the Heat, 3rd best player on Boston)

Dude, you got Tracy McGrady over Ray. Tracy McGrady have never been out of 1st round. Ray have been in the second round with his every team, despite being on some terrible Milwaukee and Seattle squads. He also have more points, win shares, I don't know, whatever you count, Ray have more of it.

So you probably basing your pick on popularity awards, like all-stars etc. Oh, wait, Ray even have more of those. I actually don't even know what you basing it on.

[Charlie Sheen]

Grant Hill. I'm placing him at the top with or without accounting for injury.

Ray because I think the level of play he reached in Seattle... while it doesn't touch McGrady it come close enough that the entire body of work becomes the deciding factor.

McGrady Fair or not his career accomplishments are the portrait of unrealized potential. I just can't give him the nod over the two above. For my money the best we saw from Grant Hill was superior to the heights McGrady reached at his peak.

Webber because I liked him better than Zo :lol

[Doomsday Dallas]

Alonzo got the closest to leading his team to a title... if it were not for Jordan's Bulls, Zo could have a ring. Although Webber got close too, he had far superior teammates.

ZO
Webber
Allen
McGrady
Hill

McGrady & Hill did absolutely nothing in the playoffs... you have to take that into consideration.



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"I Want Winners."

[Reggie43]

Hill
Zo
Webber
Tmac
Ray

[TheGoatest]

Peak/prime-wise, Grant Hill was the best player.
Career-wise they are kind of hard to rank. Actually, weird how Ray Allen might've had the best career, but at the same time the worst peak of the 5.

[John8204]

Highest MVP placement

Mourning (2)
Hill (3)
Webber (4)
McGrady (4)
Allen (9)

[L.Kizzle]

Grant Hill. I'm placing him at the top with or without accounting for injury.

Ray because I think the level of play he reached in Seattle... while it doesn't touch McGrady it come close enough that the entire body of work becomes the deciding factor.

McGrady Fair or not his career accomplishments are the portrait of unrealized potential. I just can't give him the nod over the two above. For my money the best we saw from Grant Hill was superior to the heights McGrady reached at his peak.

Webber because I liked him better than Zo :lol
If you put Hill at the top, McGrady has to be right there or above IMO. They accomplished the same feet.

[L.Kizzle]

Alonzo got the closest to leading his team to a title... if it were not for Jordan's Bulls, Zo could have a ring. Although Webber got close too, he had far superior teammates.

ZO
Webber
Allen
McGrady
Hill

McGrady & Hill did absolutely nothing in the playoffs... you have to take that into consideration.



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"I Want Winners."
How was Zo closest to winning when Webb took his team to game 7. Zo had a Hall of Famer with him in Hardaway.

[Manny98]

1. Zo
2. Ray
3. McGrady
4. Webber
5. Hill

[ShawkFactory]

Dude, you got Tracy McGrady over Ray. Tracy McGrady have never been out of 1st round. Ray have been in the second round with his every team, despite being on some terrible Milwaukee and Seattle squads. He also have more points, win shares, I don't know, whatever you count, Ray have more of it.

So you probably basing your pick on popularity awards, like all-stars etc. Oh, wait, Ray even have more of those. I actually don't even know what you basing it on.

Probably just healthy TMac being a better player.

[Wally450]

Ray Allen
Alonzo Mourning
Tracy McGrady
Chris Webber
Grant Hill

[fsvr54]

Hill was the actual best player in his prime lol

[L.Kizzle]

Hill was the actual best player in his prime lol

Hill vs McGrady. Who was better and why?

[L.Kizzle]

All-Star appearances
10 Allen
7 Mourning
Hill
McGrady
5 Webber

All-NBA appearances
7 McGrady (two 1st teams)
5 Webber (one 1st team)
Hill (one 1st team)
2 Mourning (one 1st team)
Allen

[ShawkFactory]

Hill vs McGrady. Who was better and why?

McGrady peaked higher IMO. He didn't have a weakness as a player. Long, athletic, smooth, skilled, smart. Dude had it all.

His weakness was in his personality in that he just didn't have that fire, nor was he much of a leader. Once he started having back problems he fell off defensively and started settling too much for jumpers.

And I think that being in such a horrible situation in Orlando kind of demoralized him and he lost the energy he played with earlier on in the stint with them.

[TheGoatest]

Hill vs McGrady. Who was better and why?

McGrady was a better scorer. Hill was better at everything else, while also being a pretty good scorer.
Hill had a great 2010-11 season at the age of 38. McGrady was pretty much done at 29 and played his last NBA game before his 33rd birthday.

[Smook A.]

All-time?

1. Ray
2. Zo
3. T-Mac
4. Webber
5. Hill

Strictly talent-wise?

1. T-Mac
2. Hill
3. Ray
4. Webber
5. Zo

[L.Kizzle]

All-time?

1. Ray
2. Zo
3. T-Mac
4. Webber
5. Hill

Strictly talent-wise?

1. T-Mac
2. Hill
3. Ray
4. Webber
5. Zo
Webb >> Allen talent wise.

[brownmamba00]

Tmac
Hill
Webb

Ray
Zo

[WhiteKyrie]

Playing when healthy at their prime / peak?

1) McGrady
2) Hill
3) Weber
4) Allen
5) Mourning

Based on career

1) Weber
2) Allen
3) Mourning
4) McGrady
5) Hill

[Doomsday Dallas]

How was Zo closest to winning when Webb took his team to game 7. Zo had a Hall of Famer with him in Hardaway.

Because ZO ran into the Bulls (w/ Dennis Rodman) in the ECF... and his team wasn't all that... Kings, yes took Lakers to 7, but that was a complete team surrounding Weber from top to bottom.

The Kings we're just a much more solid team... and could've done damage without Weber. Take Zo out of Miami and they had jack $hit.

[L.Kizzle]

Because ZO ran into the Bulls (w/ Dennis Rodman) in the ECF... and his team wasn't all that... Kings, yes took Lakers to 7, but that was a complete team surrounding Weber from top to bottom.

The Kings we're just a much more solid team... and could've done damage without Weber. Take Zo out of Miami and they had jack $hit.
Miami had Hardaway (best player on that 97 team as he was All NBA 1st team), Mashburn and Majerle and Leonard and PJ Brown.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Miami had Hardaway (best player on that 97 team as he was All NBA 1st team), Mashburn and Majerle and Leonard and PJ Brown.


At the end of the day... It depends on what you value more... Chris Webber will give you more offense, Zo will give you more defense.

Anywhere from 1994-2014... I'd tend to have more defense... In today's game, I'd take Webber easily.

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But... the fact remains... those early 2000 Kings teams were far superior compared to the mid-90's Heat teams.

[90sgoat]

1. Ray Allen
2. Chris Webber
3. Tracy McGrady
4. Grant Hill
5. Alonzo Mourning

This is a tough one because of all the what ifs and the peak vs longevity argument etc.

Overall, I feel comfortable with Ray Allen as the top choice. Won the rings, got the stats.

Second is tough. I think here I have to go with Chris Webber, because he had the longest, most productive playoff career. I also feel like his playoff impact and leadership was just more important.

Third, we have the tossup of two amazing wings, who both fell short in expectations. I want to choose Hill, but I can't ignore that McGrady had way more production for longer and Hill didn't have a lot of playoff success either.

Fourth, we have the two players derailed by health concerns, Mo vs Hill. Also a difficult choice, but I'm going with Hill here for reaching a higher peak than Mourning ever could.

[dankok8]

Career

1. Ray
2. Zo
3. T-Mac
4. Webber
5. Hill

Better Player

1. T-Mac
2. Hill
3. Ray
4. Webber
5. Zo

[SouBeachTalents]

This is based on how I'd draft them if available

McGrady
Allen
Mourning
Hill
Webber

Yes, I'm not nearly as high on Grant Hill as other posters seem to be.