Xiao told us the Jazz would be lottery without Rudy even with Mitchell

[RRR3]

They don't have Mitchell anymore and barring a huge choke they're about to be 6-2, and they have had a tough schedule too.

[Xiao Yao You]

can't quit me

[RRR3]

Can't quit me

[post]

they have a -0.64 srs

beating memphis without desmond how was he the 30th pick bane and jaren all defense team jackson

pesky facts

[Xiao Yao You]

they have a -0.64 srs

beating memphis without desmond how was he the 30th pick bane and jaren all defense team jackson

pesky facts

trolls don't like facts

[RRR3]

:mad:
Boiling that toody has been exposed.

[Xiao Yao You]

The Clarkson watch continues to be ugly

3-14 2-8 3pt

[post]

Boiling that toody has been exposed.

also no danny torn ligaments green

[Xiao Yao You]

also no danny torn ligaments green

Gobert has been exposed because a new coaching staff and mostly new players have won games in October. Not sure how you compare them but I'm not a troll

[post]

Gobert has been exposed because a new coaching staff and mostly new players have won games in October. Not sure how you compare them but I'm not a troll

olynyk is shooting 64% from 3 which won't last

markkanen is decent but not somebody you are afraid to tank with

conley should be traded

clarkson too

they got rid of 4 starters so the other one and the 6th man should go if you want to properly suck and not fight for a bullshit 8th seed

[Xiao Yao You]

olynyk is shooting 64% from 3 which won't last

markkanen is decent but not somebody you are afraid to tank with

conley should be traded

clarkson too

they got rid of 4 starters so the other one and the 6th man should go if you want to properly suck and not fight for a bullshit 8th seed

They'll suck without Conley. You forgot Olynyk and Gay need to go as well

[post]

They'll suck without Conley. You forgot Olynyk and Gay need to go as well

yeah basically anyone in their 30s

[JohnMax]

NBA players are jealous that the next Lebron looks like Rudy Gobert and are reverse tanking.

Management isn't dumb though. They got rid of stars to tank. They won't hesitate to get rid of scrubs. One of the Wemby hating scrubs on Spurs got cancel cultured. More scrubs will be eliminated until resistance to tank for Wemby is crushed.

[warriorfan]

op is a psychopath

[RRR3]

Toody looking pretty unimpactful on the Wolves. 3 all-star teammates and still mediocre.

[RRR3]

Not a single shot made today by Toody (0-1) and outscored by BIYOMBO

[bison]

Toody with a very flaccid 7 pts and 9 reb. The man could not catch a ball to save his life. By the way the wolves look awful. Lots of ISO and hero ball. KAT and Dlo are not good basketball players. Someone needs to come rescued Ant from that poverty franchise.

[RRR3]

KAT is great at offense or at least he was before Toody clogged up the lane. Ant has lots of potential but at the moment he’s mostly an inefficient chucker. Russel is definitely a pretty meh player. I remember when he was supposed to be a superstar.

[post]

edwards never made the all star team and isn't looking like it so far this year

russell is not that good

butler called towns soft as baby shit

[RRR3]

edwards never made the all star team and isn't looking like it so far this year

russell is not that good

butler called towns soft as baby shit
Yep it’s always Toody’s teammates fault we know.

[post]

Yep it’s always Toody’s teammates fault we know.

he's flawed like everyone

harping on it isn't interesting to me

[post]

russell made the all star team once 4 years ago as an injury replacement for oladipo

who actually was quite good

[Manny98]

lol Toody getting outplayed by Biyombo :facepalm

Meanwhile Mitchell leading his team with the best SRS in the entire NBA and playing at a MVP level

https://i.postimg.cc/8ctFJptJ/donovan-mitchell-joueur-de-basket.gif

[RRR3]

lol Toody getting outplayed by Biyombo :facepalm

Meanwhile Mitchell leading his team with the best SRS in the entire NBA and playing at a MVP level

https://i.postimg.cc/8ctFJptJ/donovan-mitchell-joueur-de-basket.gif
Me, you and Proctor continuously told him Mitchell was the real MVP of the Jazz but he refused to listen. Now he’s learning the hard way.

[Kblaze8855]

I assume at some point if they hang around even .500 Ainge will call the coach and suggest a shakeup he can’t admit will make them lose but…obviously will. Let coach know he’s coming back either way. Complete the tank.

[Manny98]

https://i.postimg.cc/6QxjtXJD/Screenshot-2022-11-02-16-49-13-53-40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg

Hard to dunk when your Center is a offensive liability who clogs up the paint :lol

[Manny98]

Me, you and Proctor continuously told him Mitchell was the real MVP of the Jazz but he refused to listen. Now he’s learning the hard way.

Tough year for the troll!

[RRR3]

https://i.postimg.cc/6QxjtXJD/Screenshot-2022-11-02-16-49-13-53-40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg

Hard to dunk when your Center is a offensive liability who clogs up the paint :lol
This is why Xiao harping on Mitchell’s efficiency (which was above league average last year anyways) was so ignorant. Look at how he well he’s playing without that useless stiff clogging things up.

[post]

lol Toody getting outplayed by Biyombo :facepalm

Meanwhile Mitchell leading his team with the best SRS in the entire NBA and playing at a MVP level

https://i.postimg.cc/8ctFJptJ/donovan-mitchell-joueur-de-basket.gif

i'll bet you a million dollars i don't have he doesn't win mvp

[post]

Me, you and Proctor continuously told him Mitchell was the real MVP of the Jazz but he refused to listen. Now he’s learning the hard way.

perhaps you'll learn the hard way garland is better and mitchell is number 2 again

[post]

I assume at some point if they hang around even .500 Ainge will call the coach and suggest a shakeup he can’t admit will make them lose but…obviously will. Let coach know he’s coming back either way. Complete the tank.

maybe they don't care about getting a high pick

after all the last 4 mvps were not in the lottery

[post]

https://i.postimg.cc/6QxjtXJD/Screenshot-2022-11-02-16-49-13-53-40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg

Hard to dunk when your Center is a offensive liability who clogs up the paint :lol

he should worry more about making his free throws and playing defense than dunking

[post]

This is why Xiao harping on Mitchell’s efficiency (which was above league average last year anyways) was so ignorant. Look at how he well he’s playing without that useless stiff clogging things up.

yeah jarrett allen really puts the fear of god in opponents from the 3 point line

[Manny98]

https://i.postimg.cc/3N8NQ8Hr/Screenshot-2022-11-03-15-06-43-69-40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg

:roll::roll::roll:

[Proctor]

https://i.postimg.cc/3N8NQ8Hr/Screenshot-2022-11-03-15-06-43-69-40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg

:roll::roll::roll:

:roll:

[RRR3]

:roll:
Toody is a top 10 offensive player in the league tho!

[kentatm]

They don't have Mitchell anymore and barring a huge choke they're about to be 6-2, and they have had a tough schedule too.


Not sure why you're bagging on him when the entire b-ball world thought the Jazz would suck ass this year. Don't pretend like you thought they'd be good after gutting the team b/c we all know it would be a lie.

[90sgoat]

Much of the Jazz success is based on not having any expectations, no one has watched film of how they play and they all play hard as ****.

Markkanen and Vanderbilt is a really dynamic duo.

Ainge probably wants to keep both, but I'd want to get either one of those if I was a contending team. They play with a lot of hunger and they are ready to step up.

[Xiao Yao You]

yeah jarrett allen really puts the fear of god in opponents from the 3 point line

he's quite dynamic apparently

[Xiao Yao You]

Much of the Jazz success is based on not having any expectations, no one has watched film of how they play and they all play hard as ****.

Markkanen and Vanderbilt is a really dynamic duo.

Ainge probably wants to keep both, but I'd want to get either one of those if I was a contending team. They play with a lot of hunger and they are ready to step up.

Not sure Ainge wants to hold on to anyone if the price is right

[JohnMax]

I bet Rudy haters won't bump this thread at the end of season when Wolves make playoffs and Jazz miss it. Instead they'll be praying to Satan that Rudy doesn't win another DPOY and some 5 out offense eliminates Wolves so they can blame defensive breakdowns on Gobert.

[post]

he's quite dynamic apparently

he was very good last year

mitchell has some point

as you know the jazz only had 1 "big" in their starting lineup previously

but mobley is still raw and i'd take gobert over allen based on what they've done in their careers so far


Not sure Ainge wants to hold on to anyone if the price is right

true

[Xiao Yao You]

he was very good last year

mitchell has some point

as you know the jazz only had 1 "big" in their starting lineup previously

but mobley is still raw and i'd take gobert over allen based on what they've done in their careers so far



true


He may have a point but Allen is a Gobert wannabe sorry. There's no comparison

[Xiao Yao You]

https://kslsports.com/494966/donovan-mitchell-mural-gateway/


SALT LAKE CITY – One of the last remaining bastions of the Donovan Mitchell era is gone as the All-Star guard’s mural at the Gateway Mall has been painted over.



see ya

[post]

He may have a point but Allen is a Gobert wannabe sorry. There's no comparison

i guess you could put it that way

i mean if gobert is the 3rd best center in the league what's allen top 5 top 10 top something

i'm sure not everyone will agree

[Xiao Yao You]

i guess you could put it that way

i mean if gobert is the 3rd best center in the league what's allen top 5 top 10 top something

i'm sure not everyone will agree

pretty sure the trolls won't agree. They might even need another thread to let us know about it!

[Manny98]

He may have a point but Allen is a Gobert wannabe sorry. There's no comparison

Allen is way more dynamic offensively than that paint clogging stiff :lol

[Manny98]

I bet Rudy haters won't bump this thread at the end of season when Wolves make playoffs and Jazz miss it. Instead they'll be praying to Satan that Rudy doesn't win another DPOY and some 5 out offense eliminates Wolves so they can blame defensive breakdowns on Gobert.

West is deep I don't see the Wolves making the playoffs

Rudy underachieving once again

[WhiteKyrie]

No one ever accused this Xiao of being a knowledgeable basketball fan though, so who cares?

The Cleveland Cavaliers after adding Mitchell, and not even having Garland, their previous best player, for most of the games, right now so far are looking like a Eastern conference finalist possibility.

[Xiao Yao You]

West is deep I don't see the Wolves making the playoffs

Rudy underachieving once again

Rudy is underachieving because a troll doesn't think a stacked team will make the playoffs in November. When was the other time the 27th pick in the draft underachieved? When he prevented the Jazz from tanking because he too good? When he made many all NBA teams? The last year he didn't make 1st team all defense? Or was it one of the years he won DPOTY? Maybe when they upset the Clippers in the playoffs? Or was it the year they took down the favored Thunder?

[dankok8]

The season just started. The Jazz will be lottery and will probably win 30-35 games IMO.

[Xiao Yao You]

The season just started. The Jazz will be lottery and will probably win 30-35 games IMO.

if they win that many Ainge needs to go. You don't trade a statue and win 30 games if you're any good at your job

[Manny98]

Rudy is underachieving because a troll doesn't think a stacked team will make the playoffs in November. When was the other time the 27th pick in the draft underachieved? When he prevented the Jazz from tanking because he too good? When he made many all NBA teams? The last year he didn't make 1st team all defense? Or was it one of the years he won DPOTY? Maybe when they upset the Clippers in the playoffs? Or was it the year they took down the favored Thunder?

The year they beat the Clippers with Rudy missing the majority of the series? :oldlol:

Yes Rudy has underachieved every year, multiple first round exits.

And I do not see them making the playoffs I said before the season started Towns and Rudy aren't going to work that well and I have been proven right so far :applause:

[Xiao Yao You]

The year they beat the Clippers with Rudy missing the majority of the series? :oldlol:

Yes Rudy has underachieved every year, multiple first round exits.

And I do not see them making the playoffs I said before the season started Towns and Rudy aren't going to work that well and I have been proven right so far :applause:

he missed two games against the Clippers. They lost both as they usually did when he was out. How is a first round exit as the underdog underachieving?

[Manny98]

he missed two games against the Clippers. They lost both as they usually did when he was out. How is a first round exit as the underdog underachieving?
They won game 1 without Rudy, won game 5 with Rudy playing only 20 minutes, and won game 7 despite Rudy fouling out in the first quarter, so Utah's biggest series win the past 5 years was without Rudy even playing :oldlol:

You think A team that had the best record in the conference and had the best offense in the entire NBA not making it past the second round once is not a underachievement?

[Xiao Yao You]

They won game 1 without Rudy, won game 5 with Rudy playing only 20 minutes, and won game 7 despite Rudy fouling out in the first quarter, so Utah's biggest series win the past 5 years was without Rudy even playing :oldlol:

You think A team that had the best record in the conference and had the best offense in the entire NBA not making it past the second round once is not a underachievement?

Rudy started game 1. Rudy fouled out in a 1st quarter? Not playing means you aren't on the court. You do realize that right?

You could argue the team underachieved that year. They had the best record because they were the last team to get hit by Covid and injuries. No one considered them the best team that year. The game is played at two ends of the court. Why am I always having to point out basics to ya?

[Manny98]

Rudy started game 1. Rudy fouled out in a 1st quarter? Not playing means you aren't on the court. You do realize that right?

You could argue the team underachieved that year. They had the best record because they were the last team to get hit by Covid and injuries. No one considered them the best team that year. The game is played at two ends of the court. Why am I always having to point out basics to ya?
He started but checked out after 17 seconds troll :facepalm

They underachieved overall, Rudy and Mitchell should have at least gotten past the second round once together

[Xiao Yao You]

He started but checked out after 17 seconds troll :facepalm

They underachieved overall, Rudy and Mitchell should have at least gotten past the second round once together

if Mitchell had showed up and they had a coach that made adjustments they might have

[Full Court]

I think everyone, myself included, underestimated how much Lauri Markkanen was going to break out. The guy's been playing like a beast.

[Manny98]

if Mitchell had showed up and they had a coach that made adjustments they might have
Yep Mitchell who averaged 36/5/5 on 70% TS vs Denver and 35/5/5 on 60% vs Clippers was the reason for Utah's playoff failures :facepalm

[Xiao Yao You]

Yep Mitchell who averaged 36/5/5 on 70% TS vs Denver and 35/5/5 on 60% vs Clippers was the reason for Utah's playoff failures :facepalm

again the game is played at two ends of the court. They lost those series because of defense. When Jamal Murray is putting up the same numbers at the other end who cares what your numbers are?

[Manny98]

again the game is played at two ends of the court. They lost those series because of defense. When Jamal Murray is putting up the same numbers at the other end who cares what your numbers are?
Mitchell wasn't guarding Murray that series, Royce was his primary defender, watch a game!

[Xiao Yao You]

Mitchell wasn't guarding Murray that series, Royce was his primary defender, watch a game!

yeah Mitchell wasn't guarding anyone and the coach refused to put one of his rookies that actually played defense on him. Instead we got the usual, Mitchell/Clarkson shit show

[Manny98]

Yep only averaged 36/5/5 on 70%TS for the series what a scrub :facepalm

[Xiao Yao You]

Yep only averaged 36/5/5 on 70%TS for the series what a scrub :facepalm

while playing no defense at the other end. Who cares

[Manny98]

while playing no defense at the other end. Who cares
The team as a whole played poor defense, you can't blame Mitchell for Murray and Jokic going off when they wasn't his defensive responsibility

[Xiao Yao You]

The team as a whole played poor defense, you can't blame Mitchell for Murray and Jokic going off when they wasn't his defensive responsibility

I can blame Mitchell for putting little to no effort on defense over the course of his career because those are facts. I know you hate facts

[Manny98]

I can blame Mitchell for putting little to no effort on defense over the course of his career because those are facts. I know you hate facts

Most guys that have to carry the load on offense, Lillard, Durant, Doncic, ect. Aren't going all out on the defensive end, that's what role players like Royce are for :facepalm

Mitchell did his job on offense, Murray and Jokic going off had little to do with Mitchell which you continuously ignore

[Xiao Yao You]

Most guys that have to carry the load on offense, Lillard, Durant, Doncic, ect. Aren't going all out on the defensive end, that's what role players like Royce are for :facepalm

Mitchell did his job on offense, Murray and Jokic going off had little to do with Mitchell which you continuously ignore

you want to win you play both ends. Donic played D. A big reason Dallas stepped up come play off time. That's what it takes

[Manny98]

The troll continues to ignores the fact that Mitchell had little to do with Jokic and Murray going off :facepalm

[Xiao Yao You]

The troll continues to ignores the fact that Mitchell had little to do with Jokic and Murray going off :facepalm

when you're not one of the 2 guys that are playing D you have a lot to do with the other team going off

[Manny98]

when you're not one of the 2 guys that are playing D you have a lot to do with the other team going off

What Denver player went off on Mitchell

[Xiao Yao You]

What Denver player went off on Mitchell

Denver went off on the Jazz. You play defense as a team. Watch the game tonight. Everyone will be getting after it on defense. Everyone will be sharing the ball(except Clarkson)

[Manny98]

Denver went off on the Jazz. You play defense as a team. Watch the game tonight. Everyone will be getting after it on defense. Everyone will be sharing the ball(except Clarkson)
Exactly so stop acting like they went off on Mitchell only and give him credit for his performance :facepalm

The Jazz were significantly worse with him off the floor in both of those years yet you act like he was a negative

[Xiao Yao You]

Exactly so stop acting like they went off on Mitchell only and give him credit for his performance :facepalm

The Jazz were significantly worse with him off the floor in both of those years yet you act like he was a negative

they went off on the Jazz because 2 guys can't guard 5(and the bubble of course). Everyone needs to buy in. Why can Gobert and O'Neale play hard at both ends all night but Mitchell can't?

[Manny98]

they went off on the Jazz because 2 guys can't guard 5(and the bubble of course). Everyone needs to buy in. Why can Gobert and O'Neale play hard at both ends all night but Mitchell can't?

Yet Jazz were significantly worse with Mitchell off the floor that series, explain that troll

[post]

losing in game 7 by 2 points is a tight series

neither mitchell or murray played well in game 7

jokic was very good but that's not the reason they won

the better team won

this is basketball 101 intelligent children understand

[post]

on a different note no garland or mitchell tonight cavs win by 24

[Xiao Yao You]

on a different note no garland or mitchell tonight cavs win by 24

what will the trolls make of this?

[post]

what will the trolls make of this?

who cares they are peasants on a witch hunt

[Manny98]

6-1 with Mitchell, meanwhile Timberwolves are below.500 :oldlol:

[Xiao Yao You]

6-1 with Mitchell, meanwhile Timberwolves are below.500 :oldlol:

Cavs winning without Mitchell in the lineup. Something the Jazz know all too well

[Manny98]

Cavs winning without Mitchell in the lineup. Something the Jazz know all too well
Against the worst team in the NBA coming off a back to back, what's your point?

[Xiao Yao You]

Against the worst team in the NBA coming off a back to back, what's your point?

apparently the Cavs are pretty good even without the future MVP in the lineup

[Manny98]

apparently the Cavs are pretty good even without the future MVP in the lineup
Yep they have two big men who are dynamic offensively, Mitchell has never had so many weapons to work with!

[Xiao Yao You]

Yep they have two big men who are dynamic offensively, Mitchell has never had so many weapons to work with!

Allen is a Gobert wannabe but keep telling us how dynamic he is rim running. None of his weapons are all NBA or DPOTY year but keep trolling

[Manny98]

From Mitchell's own mouth troll

https://i.postimg.cc/yNmWPJfY/Screenshot-2022-11-03-15-06-43-69-40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg

[Xiao Yao You]

From Mitchell's own mouth troll

https://i.postimg.cc/yNmWPJfY/Screenshot-2022-11-03-15-06-43-69-40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg

and? People say shit all the time. You should know that with Kyrie your idol. We've all seen Allen play. He's a rim runner. He's not anymore dynamic than the other rim runners. He's not a DROTY or the leading rebounder in the league...

[Manny98]

and? People say shit all the time. You should know that with Kyrie your idol. We've all seen Allen play. He's a rim runner. He's not anymore dynamic than the other rim runners. He's not a DROTY or the leading rebounder in the league...
I think the player that has actually played with both would know more than the average fan

Allen can actually hit free throws at a decent clip and hit the occasional jumper for one

[Vino24]

Xiao seems unhinged

[Xiao Yao You]

I think the player that has actually played with both would know more than the average fan

Allen can actually hit free throws at a decent clip and hit the occasional jumper for one

A player probably does know more but it doesn't mean whatever they say is true. He's around 70% at the line. Gobert was 69 last year and he shoots a lot more of them. The occasional jumper. Now that's dynamic! Certainly more dynamic than the top screen setter, top dunker, top finisher, top rebounder... :lol

[Manny98]

A player probably does know more but it doesn't mean whatever they say is true. He's around 70% at the line. Gobert was 69 last year and he shoots a lot more of them. The occasional jumper. Now that's dynamic! Certainly more dynamic than the top screen setter, top dunker, top finisher, top rebounder... :lol

Tell that to Mitchell he obviously sees Allen and Mobley as better big man offensively

[Xiao Yao You]

Tell that to Mitchell he obviously sees Allen and Mobley as better big man offensively


no actually he said they were more dynamic. There is a difference.

[zeerghit]

no actually he said they were more dynamic. There is a difference.

more dynamic means more talent they atleast can post up against 6ft guy

[Xiao Yao You]

more dynamic means more talent they atleast can post up against 6ft guy

they might be more talented. Lots of guys are. Not many as impactful. Only two that have played for the Jazz have been. Whiteside was more talented. The guy is a bum. Cousins is more dynamic as is Towns. For some reason those guys are out of the league or have never won games despite how dynamic they were

[zeerghit]

they might be more talented. Lots of guys are. Not many as impactful. Only two that have played for the Jazz have been. Whiteside was more talented. The guy is a bum. Cousins is more dynamic as is Towns. For some reason those guys are out of the league or have never won games despite how dynamic they were
why you using Cousins as example?

[Xiao Yao You]

why you using Cousing as example?

Cousins was one of the guys hyped to be so great. Made all star teams and all NBA teams over Gobert despite his horrible inefficiency, crappy D and losing while Gobert made a tanking team good kind of like Hardy so far this year. So again dynamic and hype doesn't mean better as we've seen

[zeerghit]

Cousins was one of the guys hyped to be so great. Made all star teams and all NBA teams over Gobert despite his horrible inefficiency, crappy D and losing while Gobert made a tanking team good kind of like Hardy so far this year. So again dynamic and hype doesn't mean better as we've seen

you are so full of sh*t

[Xiao Yao You]

you are so full of sh*t

just the facts

[zeerghit]

just the facts

facts? what facts? the guy is born looser and get paid 41mln, the guy is exposed every f*cking season and u still defending him and blaming everyone but him.. get a f*cking sense

[Xiao Yao You]

facts? what facts? the guy is born looser and get paid 41mln, the guy is exposed every f*cking season and u still defending him and blaming everyone but him.. get a f*cking sense

The Jazz were tanking, Much like this year they got rid of their best player Millsap so they could lose games and let Kanter and Favors shine. Unfortunately for Lindsey, Kanter and Favors Gobert emerged and they started winning suddenly.You certainly define 'born loser' a bit different than me. All NBA, DPOTY and he earns less than max. Didn't even ask for the full amount he'd earned. One of the best bargains in the league. Why would I blame the one guy that kept the franchise from sucking for almost a decade? Jazz have had a lot of issues. Gobert is the least of them by far. 3rd most important figure in their history. I only have 5 senses. Not a mutant sorry

[zeerghit]

The Jazz were tanking, Much like this year they got rid of their best player Millsap so they could lose games and let Kanter and Favors shine. Unfortunately for Lindsey, Kanter and Favors Gobert emerged and they started winning suddenly.You certainly define 'born loser' a bit different than me. All NBA, DPOTY and he earns less than max. Didn't even ask for the full amount he'd earned. One of the best bargains in the league. Why would I blame the one guy that kept the franchise from sucking for almost a decade? Jazz have had a lot of issues. Gobert is the least of them by far. 3rd most important figure in their history. I only have 5 senses. Not a mutant sorry

keep that dream alive, good night

[Manny98]

"3rd most important figure" yet couldn't get them past the 2nd round

Deron Williams had more success in a Utah jersey than Toody :facepalm

[Xiao Yao You]

"3rd most important figure" yet couldn't get them past the 2nd round

Deron Williams had more success in a Utah jersey than Toody :facepalm

The Jazz weren't good until they signed Boozer and Okur but sure Deron making the west finals because 8 seed GS beat the top seed in the first round makes him more impactful than Gobert. Details matter. A big reason those teams were good is because they had a Gobert type player in AK to do all the little impactful things that Deron and Boozer and okur weren't doing just like your favorite role player. Facts > troll fiction

[Manny98]

The Jazz weren't good until they signed Boozer and Okur but sure Deron making the west finals because 8 seed GS beat the top seed in the first round makes him more impactful than Gobert. Details matter. A big reason those teams were good is because they had a Gobert type player in AK to do all the little impactful things that Deron and Boozer and okur weren't doing just like your favorite role player. Facts > troll fiction

And Rudy had Mitchell, Conley, Bogdan ect and still couldn't reach a single conference finals

What a failure

[Xiao Yao You]

And Rudy had Mitchell, Conley, Bogdan ect and still couldn't reach a single conference finals

What a failure

only one time could you argue they were favored to reach the finals. How is that a failure when you continually overachieve? You use Mitchell and Bojan like their lack of D and passing weren't a big reason they didn't do more