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FultzNationRISE
11-01-2022, 02:30 PM
So Kyrie posted a link to a film on his Twitter account, and the Nets mounted a massive coordinated wave of condemnation for his promotion of antisemitism, saying it has zero place in the game.

Udoka was suspended by a different team for apparently sending inappropriate text messages to a female staff member after she ended an affair. We dont know what was in the texts, but the team said it didnt take the decision to suspend him for a year lightly and that what transpired did merit such drastic action.

Would it be kind of hypocritical of the Nets’ big moral stand over Kyrie’s twitter to now go and basically negate the punishment Udoka was served (and did not dispute) for unacceptable conduct?

I know they werent the ones who suspended him in the first place, but running out and hiring him because hes available to maybe help their team kinda makes their whole “omg antisemitism, never acceptable, actions have consequences!!!!” cry ring a lil hollow, no?

Your thoughts?

RRR3
11-01-2022, 02:36 PM
Corporations don’t have integrity and the capitalist is shocked.

FultzNationRISE
11-01-2022, 02:39 PM
Corporations don’t have integrity and the capitalist is shocked.

Uhh… Im not remotely shocked.

My question was whether mindless establishment meat puppets like you would even notice the contradiction.

Im Still Ballin
11-01-2022, 02:43 PM
When's the next Communist Heroes post?

Kblaze8855
11-01-2022, 02:46 PM
In not sure how to compare what I read was a consensual relationship with a rocky ending and promoting a video prominently featuring Hitler quotes about Jews. The Celtics suspending him doesn’t make it a moral issue. It’s a being a dumbass at work issue as I understand it.

Every job in America hires people who may have been fired over on the job relationships elsewhere.

Is that supposed to end careers? Actual murderers and rapists still get jobs later.

Any business that is against promotion of Hitlerish ideology shouldn’t hire people who once had sex with a coworker and sent texts we have no information about?

I…don’t know that’s a contradiction at all. Two very different areas of morality. One might not be an issue of morality as all as much as liability and idiocy.

FultzNationRISE
11-01-2022, 02:51 PM
In not sure how to compare what I read was a consensual relationship with a rocky ending and promoting a video prominently featuring Hitler quotes about Jews. The Celtics suspending him doesn’t make it a moral issue. It’s a being a dumbass at work issue as I understand it.

Every job in America hires people who may have been fired over on the job relationships elsewhere.

Is that supposed to end careers? Actual murderers and rapists still get jobs later.

Any business that is against promotion of Hitlerish ideology shouldn’t hire people who once had sex with a coworker and sent texts we have no information about?

I…don’t know that’s a contradiction at all. Two very different areas of morality. One might not be an issue of morality as all as much as liability and idiocy.


I guess your understanding was different from mine.

It seemed to me the reason for such an unprecedented suspension was not the affair but the nature of the unwanted communication that followed. I though that’s what had been reported.

I mean it’s totally their call. If the “respect women, believe women” etc was never intended to really be taken as seriously as something like antisemitism, thats ok. Im not saying any opinion is wrong. I’m just pointing out the mixed messages the Nets are themselves sending. That’s all.

KNOW1EDGE
11-01-2022, 03:08 PM
Desperation by the Nets and I hope they don’t win another game this season.

Kblaze8855
11-01-2022, 03:08 PM
Nobody I’ve heard speak on it have shared any details about what happened other than to make it clear the relationship was consensual. Who knows what got texted after that got them caught. I’ve sent and received some wild shit during breakups so I won’t speculate.

The suspension would be justified off ****ing a bosses wife to begin with.

FultzNationRISE
11-01-2022, 03:14 PM
Nobody I’ve heard speak on it have shared any details about what happened other than to make it clear the relationship was consensual. Who knows what got texted after that got them caught. I’ve sent and received some wild shit during breakups so I won’t speculate.

The suspension would be justified off ****ing a bosses wife to begin with.

Right. So thats my point.

It’s not like the Nets dont know what he did. Of course Udoka shouldnt be permanently blackballed from the league based on the info available, but to hire him right out the gate like this is basically sanctioning his actions. Right after they just brought in the ADL swat team to condemn Kyrie’s actions. Udoka’s not facing any meaningful consequences now, when everyone knows he did something supposedly wrong.

Which again, Im not saying he should. I dont care what Udoka or Kyrie do on their free time. But just weird how the Nets cried foul on moral grounds about Kyrie posting an Amazon link on his twitter, but they sprint to hire Udoka the second they need a coach?? :lol

Just shows how blatantly phony their moral stances are.

RRR3
11-01-2022, 03:21 PM
When's the next Communist Heroes post?
Gotta think of a good one.

Im Still Ballin
11-01-2022, 03:25 PM
Gotta think of a good one.

Could do Socialist Heroes to widen the net of potential candidates. Or, you could do Capitalist Villains.

FultzNationRISE
11-01-2022, 03:29 PM
Could do Socialist Heroes to widen the net of potential candidates. Or, you could do Capitalist Villains.

Well he’s on here watching NBA games 7 nights a week, EVERY week, so he’s already got a very busy schedule of fighting the corporate power.

But he’ll try to pencil in a new CHP installment when he can find a sliver of available time.

Be patient.

Kblaze8855
11-01-2022, 04:02 PM
Right. So thats my point.

It’s not like the Nets dont know what he did. Of course Udoka shouldnt be permanently blackballed from the league based on the info available, but to hire him right out the gate like this is basically sanctioning his actions. Right after they just brought in the ADL swat team to condemn Kyrie’s actions. Udoka’s not facing any meaningful consequences now, when everyone knows he did something supposedly wrong.

Which again, Im not saying he should. I dont care what Udoka or Kyrie do on their free time. But just weird how the Nets cried foul on moral grounds about Kyrie posting an Amazon link on his twitter, but they sprint to hire Udoka the second they need a coach?? :lol

Just shows how blatantly phony their moral stances are.


Everyone doesn’t know if he did something wrong. I have absolutely no information other than he had a consensual relationship on the job. Stupid and a violation? Yes. Immoral? Depends on the status of the marriage. I’ve been the man dating someone technically married who didn’t see it that way, lived separate for years, and had trouble getting the husband to agree. With no more information than I have I have no moral judgement.

i’ll call it stupid because it was at work and cost him money but I don’t have enough details to call it immoral. People are technically married on paper living a single life all over the world. I can’t speak on the situation.

If you know more I’ll be happy to read it but truth be told ive not even looked into it. No rumor mills or anything. I heard an ex executive talk about it on a podcast I listen to and I saw a video from Matt Barnes talking. I have not felt the need to dig. He’s a coach not a public figure whos morality I’m concerned about if he’s not hurting anybody or behaving in such a way as to promote it.

FultzNationRISE
11-01-2022, 04:12 PM
Everyone doesn’t know if he did something wrong. I have absolutely no information other than he had a consensual relationship on the job. Stupid and a violation? Yes. Immoral? Depends on the status of the marriage. I’ve been the man dating someone technically married who didn’t see it that way, lived separate for years, and had trouble getting the husband to agree. With no more information than I have I have no moral judgement.

i’ll call it stupid because it was at work and cost him money but I don’t have enough details to call it immoral. People are technically married on paper living a single life all over the world. I can’t speak on the situation.

If you know more I’ll be happy to read it but truth be told ive not even looked into it. No rumor mills or anything. I heard an ex executive talk about it on a podcast I listen to and I saw a video from Matt Barnes talking. I have not felt the need to dig. He’s a coach not a public figure whos morality I’m concerned about if he’s not hurting anybody or behaving in such a way as to promote it.



According to Charania, members of the Celtics organization became aware of the relationship in July, and Boston’s leadership was led to believe by both Udoka and the woman that the relationship was consensual. But the woman recently said that Udoka made unwanted comments toward her, prompting the team to launch a set of internal interviews, per Charania.

:confusedshrug:

They did not suspend him for the relationship. They found out about that and ignored it. They suspended him for the ensuing harassment.

However the Nets, it appears, do not "believe all women."

They just played the woke morality card to condemn Kyrie's film choices, now they're gonna reward a guy who was allegedly suspended for harassing a female staff member by nullifying the consequences he was facing.

Pretty awkward.

Proctor
11-01-2022, 04:28 PM
When's the next Communist Heroes post?

:lol:lol:lol

RRR3
11-01-2022, 04:31 PM
Could do Socialist Heroes to widen the net of potential candidates. Or, you could do Capitalist Villains.
Brilliant.

Kblaze8855
11-01-2022, 05:11 PM
:confusedshrug:

They did not suspend him for the relationship. They found out about that and ignored it. They suspended him for the ensuing harassment.

However the Nets, it appears, do not "believe all women."

They just played the woke morality card to condemn Kyrie's film choices, now they're gonna reward a guy who was allegedly suspended for harassing a female staff member by nullifying the consequences he was facing.

Pretty awkward.


He ****ed a bosses wife. I don’t care what any statement says that’s the source of the problem. What messiness was involved in the break up and whatever communication they had I won’t speak on. I don’t have those facts. I just know they were involved in a relationship which obviously can’t be allowed from the jobs standpoint.

And being disciplined at one job and leaving to work somewhere else is not the second job nullifying your consequences. It’s just a hire. If you work for me and I decide I’m going to punish you and you tell me to go **** myself when a similar job is available and hiring that job has no obligation to not fill its opening because I need you to learn a lesson.

What you did over here is barely their business. There It’s certainly nothing in them hiring you that makes them a hypocrite for not supporting a different employees Nazi propaganda.

FultzNationRISE
11-01-2022, 05:27 PM
He ****ed a bosses wife. I don’t care what any statement says that’s the source of the problem. What messiness was involved in the break up and whatever communication they had I won’t speak on. I don’t have those facts. I just know they were involved in a relationship which obviously can’t be allowed from the jobs standpoint.

And being disciplined at one job and leaving to work somewhere else is not the second job nullifying your consequences. It’s just a hire. If you work for me and I decide I’m going to punish you and you tell me to go **** myself when a similar job is available and hiring that job has no obligation to not fill its opening because I need you to learn a lesson.

What you did over here is barely their business. There It’s certainly nothing in them hiring you that makes them a hypocrite for not supporting a different employees Nazi propaganda.

Youre being purposely obtuse and I get that, anyway my point is clear about the hypocrisy of the optics. I dont really care whom they hire or dont and why. Just funny how they took such a strong organizational stand on values and principles regarding antisemtism, then within the same week hire a guy under suspension for violating workplace values of respect toward women.

Not a lot of consistency in their wokeness.

Not that there ever is.

warriorfan
11-01-2022, 05:41 PM
Nobody I’ve heard speak on it have shared any details about what happened other than to make it clear the relationship was consensual. Who knows what got texted after that got them caught. I’ve sent and received some wild shit during breakups so I won’t speculate.

The suspension would be justified off ****ing a bosses wife to begin with.

from what I heard is she was married and her husband found out and she agreed to end the affair and udoka wouldn’t stop texting her

Patrick Chewing
11-01-2022, 05:43 PM
Nets have become the laughingstock of the league now. Complete dysfunction.

Kblaze8855
11-01-2022, 06:42 PM
Youre being purposely obtuse and I get that, anyway my point is clear about the hypocrisy of the optics. I dont really care whom they hire or dont and why. Just funny how they took such a strong organizational stand on values and principles regarding antisemtism, then within the same week hire a guy under suspension for violating workplace values of respect toward women.

Not a lot of consistency in their wokeness.

Not that there ever is.

Your point as usual involves stretching halfway around the earth to make unrelated things connected out of a desire to drag politics into everything while you often decry others and companies dragging politics into everything. That you’re doing it while complaining about hypocrisy is kinda making the whole thing collapse in on itself.

Being suspended for ****ing somebody on the job and then being hired to work somewhere else does not make the second company hypocritical if they are against antisemitism. It’s in no way related and doesn’t justify any moral deep dive.

Not everything requires an examination of possible “wokeness” just because you can’t get it off your mind even while complaining about its existence.

Kblaze8855
11-01-2022, 06:51 PM
from what I heard is she was married and her husband found out and she agreed to end the affair and udoka wouldn’t stop texting her


Yeah I’m definitely not drawing any conclusions there. These days people get caught texting the wrong person delete enough for the evidence to paint the picture they want then carry on the affair on WhatsApp and Snapchat. I had a married woman I’ve not seen since 2015 text me some out of line shit days ago. I didn’t act on it but on my phone the only evidence we even speak is her texting me for football picks on saturdays and the rare discussion of the new interview with the vampire show.

Husbands and boyfriends in this era barely know what their wives are doing which is why I….will never get married again. Technology makes it all a dance and you get caught stepping wrong at the wrong moment with the wrong notification or sound going off…you go from keeping a ho on the back burner to being “harrassed” real quick when questioned.

And a woman juggling two likely millionaires when he is also dating Nia Long? There are probably so many deleted messages, burner phones, emails that only get signed into on work computers, and so on….

He probably gets smoke signals from hoes.

Ive been involved in and seen too many things unfold to take anything from a report like that. I’m sure you know how it is yourself.

This is the era of digital treachery.

FilmyCogTurner
11-01-2022, 07:12 PM
Your point as usual involves stretching halfway around the earth to make unrelated things connected out of a desire to drag politics into everything while you often decry others and companies dragging politics into everything. That you’re doing it while complaining about hypocrisy is kinda making the whole thing collapse in on itself.

Being suspended for ****ing somebody on the job and then being hired to work somewhere else does not make the second company hypocritical if they are against antisemitism. It’s in no way related and doesn’t justify any moral deep dive.

Not everything requires an examination of possible “wokeness” just because you can’t get it off your mind even while complaining about its existence.

It's different Kblaze.

The NBA is not like working at Google - perosn X messes with higher ups wife, gets publicly fired and then accepts a job with FaceBook.

Teams and the league as a whole always have to show uniformity against immoral acts whether true or not the allegations are almost enough to make a person guilty. Fultz is right, if the team wants to stand on this moral high ground for one issue, then it should remain the same for other immoral issues as well.

Pre-selecting what they stand against just shows how hypocritical they are and not actually about the cause other than APPEARING that they are.

Full Court
11-01-2022, 07:23 PM
Doesn't Kyrie also think the earth is flat or something?

Full Court
11-01-2022, 07:24 PM
It's different Kblaze.

The NBA is not like working at Google - perosn X messes with higher ups wife, gets publicly fired and then accepts a job with FaceBook.

Teams and the league as a whole always have to show uniformity against immoral acts whether true or not the allegations are almost enough to make a person guilty. Fultz is right, if the team wants to stand on this moral high ground for one issue, then it should remain the same for other immoral issues as well.

Pre-selecting what they stand against just shows how hypocritical they are and not actually about the cause other than APPEARING that they are.

That is a very wrong and very dangerous position to have.

Kblaze8855
11-01-2022, 07:38 PM
It It’s very much like leaving Facebook to work at google. The league itself to my knowledge was not handing out any discipline because it was not a league issue. It was an internal company problem based on personal issues and he left to work for a different company. If the league handed down punishment it would apply anywhere. This wasn’t the league. It was an angry Celtics boss on the wrong end of a cheating wife.

League discipline is one thing. Personal problems between employees another.

Besides the idea that two separate groups of hundreds of employees are supposed to have the same moral values is ridiculous to begin with. People in the same family can’t decide if abortion is a human right for every woman or flat out murder. One group of hundreds is supposed to align with the moral decisions of another workplace that punished someone for an affair because they came down on promoting nazi propaganda….

There is absolutely zero connection. Considering that none of us can agree on morality to begin with it’s hard to mandate across the line standards reaching from Nazism to breakup etiquette much less to assume we know where others stand on each.


Being for or against one and not sure on another isn’t being a hypocrite. It’s possible the nets bosses are pro wife ****ing but anti jew hate and therefore being totally consistent to their values. I doubt it but not leaving a job open because another company punished an employee for something doesn’t say.

Some would say everything from diet to sexual preference for male or female are moral decisions doesn’t mean they get to make them moral decisions for you and I.

If I think eating meat isn’t a matter of right and wrong or that being gay or straight is none of my business it doesn’t mandate I think whatever you think I should about every other issue or I’m a hypocrite.

Youre allowed to not care about inter office drama but be against anti jew films. We need to know a lot more about the people in question to say if either stance goes against their usual belief system.

FultzNationRISE
11-01-2022, 07:45 PM
It It’s very much like leaving Facebook to work at google. The league itself to my knowledge was not handing out any discipline because it was not a league issue. It was an internal company problem based on personal issues and he left to work for a different company. If the league handed down punishment it would apply anywhere. This wasn’t the league. It was an angry Celtics boss on the wrong end of a cheating wife.

League discipline is one thing. Personal problems between employees another.

Besides the idea that two separate groups of hundreds of employees are supposed to have the same moral values is ridiculous to begin with. People in the same family can’t decide if abortion is a human right for every woman or flat out murder. One group of hundreds is supposed to align with the moral decisions of another workplace that punished someone for an affair because they came down on promoting nazi propaganda….

There is absolutely zero connection. Considering that none of us can agree on morality to begin with it’s hard to mandate across the line standards reaching from Nazism to breakup etiquette much less to assume we know where others stand on each.


Being for or against one and not sure on another isn’t being a hypocrite. It’s possible the nets bosses are pro wife ****ing but anti jew hate and therefore being totally consistent to their values. I doubt it but not leaving a job open because another company punished an employee for something doesn’t say.

Some would say everything from diet to sexual preference for male or female are moral decisions doesn’t mean they get to make them moral decisions for you and I.

If I think eating meat isn’t a matter of right and wrong or that being gay or straight is none of my business it doesn’t mandate I think whatever you think I should about every other issue or I’m a hypocrite.

Youre allowed to not care about inter office drama but be against anti jew films. We need to know a lot more about the people in question to say if either stance goes against their usual belief system.

Can I just ask you one thing?

Why are you against women’s rights?

warriorfan
11-01-2022, 07:53 PM
Yeah I’m definitely not drawing any conclusions there. These days people get caught texting the wrong person delete enough for the evidence to paint the picture they want then carry on the affair on WhatsApp and Snapchat. I had a married woman I’ve not seen since 2015 text me some out of line shit days ago. I didn’t act on it but on my phone the only evidence we even speak is her texting me for football picks on saturdays and the rare discussion of the new interview with the vampire show.

Husbands and boyfriends in this era barely know what their wives are doing which is why I….will never get married again. Technology makes it all a dance and you get caught stepping wrong at the wrong moment with the wrong notification or sound going off…you go from keeping a ho on the back burner to being “harrassed” real quick when questioned.

And a woman juggling two likely millionaires when he is also dating Nia Long? There are probably so many deleted messages, burner phones, emails that only get signed into on work computers, and so on….

He probably gets smoke signals from hoes.

Ive been involved in and seen too many things unfold to take anything from a report like that. I’m sure you know how it is yourself.

This is the era of digital treachery.

they ended the relationship and he kept contacting her when she didn’t want it.

that’s harassment

Kblaze8855
11-01-2022, 08:02 PM
they ended the relationship and he kept contacting her when she didn’t want it.

that’s harassment

I have no evidence of that happening other than you I believe saying that you heard somebody else say it. If there were some formal complaint we could at least read the charge. This is one of those messy triangle things I’ve seen enough of to know you can barely know the truth first hand from one of the 3 much less from what someone else may have said to a source who may have told someone who was leaking details on the radio or whatever.

This is just one of those things life has told me I’ll never know the truth of and I don’t even have an actual accusation to read to begin with.

Not like she said something or her lawyer or whatever. Far as I know none of the 3 have said anything in public to even believe or not believe. Not that I blame them. His wife ****ed another man, she got caught ****ing another man, and he ****ed his bosses wife behind his girlfriends back.

I wouldn’t be holding my breath for any of them to tell us what happened. And they probably shouldn’t. We are stuck with what so and so may have said about such and such as overheard by unnamed sources who have nothing on paper.

This is as much truth as we are likely to get.

FultzNationRISE
11-01-2022, 08:06 PM
Wow.

So you hate women, and dont believe them.

It's an unacceptable attitude in general, but coming from a moderator in a position of authority? It makes it 10 times worse and just shows how much work we still have to do as a society.

I'm calling on Jeff to formally answer for this and explain why he has a moderator who thinks women dont deserve equal rights.

Ball's in your court, Mr. Lenchiner!

Smook A.
11-01-2022, 08:14 PM
Won't be surprised if the stuff about Ime Udoka gets leaked soon

Kblaze8855
11-01-2022, 08:17 PM
So you hate women, and dont believe them..


Show me a quote from the woman I’m to believe or from someone claiming to represent her. I’ll let you know what I think of it.

Kblaze8855
11-01-2022, 08:17 PM
Won't be surprised if the stuff about Ime Udoka gets leaked soon


Yea too many people know but won’t say. That won’t last forever. Whatever comes out may or may not be true but it’s gonna come eventually.

insight
11-01-2022, 09:30 PM
I don't want Nets exectutives determining what is so-called anti-semintic and what is not. They can hire whoever they want but when they attempt to censor and label movies based on their made up standards I have a problem with it. The movie Kyrie tweeted about discusses who the jews are historically and how who the people are who are considered jewish has evolved throughout history. IMO It is contraversional but not anti-semitic but everyone should be able to decide for themselves not Nets ownership.

warriorfan
11-01-2022, 09:32 PM
I have no evidence of that happening other than you I believe saying that you heard somebody else say it. If there were some formal complaint we could at least read the charge. This is one of those messy triangle things I’ve seen enough of to know you can barely know the truth first hand from one of the 3 much less from what someone else may have said to a source who may have told someone who was leaking details on the radio or whatever.

This is just one of those things life has told me I’ll never know the truth of and I don’t even have an actual accusation to read to begin with.

Not like she said something or her lawyer or whatever. Far as I know none of the 3 have said anything in public to even believe or not believe. Not that I blame them. His wife ****ed another man, she got caught ****ing another man, and he ****ed his bosses wife behind his girlfriends back.

I wouldn’t be holding my breath for any of them to tell us what happened. And they probably shouldn’t. We are stuck with what so and so may have said about such and such as overheard by unnamed sources who have nothing on paper.

This is as much truth as we are likely to get.

so even if you truly believe that he kept messaging her is a complete fabrication, he still had an affair with someone’s wife where he worked. speaks volumes of the character and type of person he is. you just don’t do that. he could have plenty of other women too, he pulled a sociopathic move. it’s pretty indefensible that he is a shit human being. quite frankly someone like that can’t be trusted and his side of the story is of course going to be very self serving.

even the harassment after the affair is a complete fabrication as you say, he’s still a piece of shit and it fits into the pattern of behavior he has exhibited

Kblaze8855
11-01-2022, 09:41 PM
I don’t believe that it’s a fabrication. I believe I don’t have much information. I don’t believe anything other than they had an affair because that doesn’t seem to be in question. The rest?

Messy shit. And not even he said she said because nobody to my knowledge had said anything in public.

He said she said is hard enough. He said so and so may have said?

That’s when I bow out. It’s not important enough to merit further investigation. I don’t think the stakes are high enough. He has the playbook not the nuclear codes so I’m not concerned about his exposure to blackmail or anything.

Spurs m8
11-01-2022, 09:45 PM
So OP is comparing a guy who had a consensual relationship with someone with Hitler.

Seems about right

FultzNationRISE
11-01-2022, 09:50 PM
So OP is comparing a guy who had a consensual relationship with someone with Hitler.

Seems about right


Do you wanna step into my office right now so I can kick the shit out of your asshole?

warriorfan
11-02-2022, 05:00 AM
I don’t believe that it’s a fabrication. I believe I don’t have much information. I don’t believe anything other than they had an affair because that doesn’t seem to be in question. The rest?

Messy shit. And not even he said she said because nobody to my knowledge had said anything in public.

He said she said is hard enough. He said so and so may have said?

That’s when I bow out. It’s not important enough to merit further investigation. I don’t think the stakes are high enough. He has the playbook not the nuclear codes so I’m not concerned about his exposure to blackmail or anything.

it wasn’t just the affair, he sexually harassed multiple woman in the workplace

you can claim it’s some sort of conspiracy if you want but, lol

Nanners
11-02-2022, 05:30 AM
Wow.

So you hate women, and dont believe them.

It's an unacceptable attitude in general, but coming from a moderator in a position of authority? It makes it 10 times worse and just shows how much work we still have to do as a society.

I'm calling on Jeff to formally answer for this and explain why he has a moderator who thinks women dont deserve equal rights.

Ball's in your court, Mr. Lenchiner!

If I was Jeff I would tell you the truth - Women are mentally and physically inferior to men, and therefore do not deserve equal rights... and as site owner I would also mention that I appreciate mods like Kblaze who acknowledge this basic fact of life.

Kblaze8855
11-02-2022, 07:39 AM
it wasn’t just the affair, he sexually harassed multiple woman in the workplace

you can claim it’s some sort of conspiracy if you want but, lol


Im not claiming it’s a conspiracy. I’m saying…just as far as I know…none of the people involved have even said anything.

This isn’t a Cosby, Watson, Sarver, Michael Jackson, or Sterling situation where a bunch of people with close ties, lawyers, and the potential victims are telling you what happened and the accused is then telling their side and you decide what to believe.

Ive not heard from anyone who seems to know and wants to give details. Maybe you have but like I said I didn’t feel a need to look deep into it.

If you know specifics I’ll read whatever article you read or whatever it was I guess but…right now?

Theres nothing for me to believe or not believe. I have absolutely no statement from anyone actually involved or their people to judge.

What I do know…a lot of situations can be painted as unwanted advances when a person is caught getting texts from someone they got caught having an affair with once already. Knowing that…and having few additional details…I don’t know what to think. In fact…I don’t even know that the people involved have said texts were the issue.

Is there a statement anywhere from any of the 3 explaining the nature of the issue? If not…who are we getting information from? Did the Celtics say he was texting her? Are there “insiders” reporting it?

Im honestly wondering.

Artillery
11-02-2022, 05:07 PM
In not sure how to compare what I read was a consensual relationship with a rocky ending and promoting a video prominently featuring Hitler quotes about Jews. The Celtics suspending him doesn’t make it a moral issue. It’s a being a dumbass at work issue as I understand it.

Every job in America hires people who may have been fired over on the job relationships elsewhere.

Is that supposed to end careers? Actual murderers and rapists still get jobs later.

Any business that is against promotion of Hitlerish ideology shouldn’t hire people who once had sex with a coworker and sent texts we have no information about?

I…don’t know that’s a contradiction at all. Two very different areas of morality. One might not be an issue of morality as all as much as liability and idiocy.

We ignoring the fact that the Nets owner is a CCP shill who endorses the Uyghur genocide being committed by China?

RachlNicholsazz
11-02-2022, 05:49 PM
There are thousands of people, probably tens of thousands in this world right now as is that can do an equal or better job than Udoka. There are maybe a couple dozen people in this world than can do a better job than Kyrie. He's infinitely more valuable than Udoka and thus we will tolerate him more.

WhiteKyrie
11-02-2022, 07:05 PM
Hypocritical indeed. Kyrie posted on his personal IG a picture of a video he apparently found entertaining. Didn’t say he hated a segment of society. Didn’t even make the material. Then they hire this scumbag? Yes, ridiculously hypocritical.

kentatm
11-02-2022, 10:58 PM
Desperation by the Nets and I hope they don’t win another game this season.

Yep. It's a 100% guarantee they are flailing around trying to make the KD/Kyrie paring work and went for Udoka b/c one of those clowns demanded it. My bet is KD since he's out there acting like he was shocked at the Nash firing.

BarberSchool
11-03-2022, 02:01 AM
I preferred Kyrie’s earlier statement, to this disingenuous half a mil donation:

“I’m a free black man in America, I have the freedom of speech to express whatever I want to my people.”

fantasy
11-07-2022, 05:58 PM
Report: Adam Silver ‘may have stepped in’ regarding Brooklyn Nets’ hiring process of Ime Udoka

https://t.co/sZheBrZKTz

fantasy
11-07-2022, 05:58 PM
How stupid Nets, with all this Kyrie saga they want to hire Udoka.