Sooo... Rudy's the problem, right?

[Im Still Ballin]

Guys? I thought everything was fixed with KAT back at the five?

[fantasy]

They suck

[Xiao Yao You]

I'm sure Gobert is still to blame. Trolls?

[imdaman99]

Karl Anthony Toons ain't a leader :lol swiss cheese defense, him and D'angelo Russell, match-made in heaven

[Im Still Ballin]

I'd rather have KAT defending 4s out on the perimeter than be a walking turnstile as a defensive anchor.

[fantasy]

Gave up Wiggins for D'angelo Russell.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Ainge made the heist of the century. Maybe the biggest heist in sports history.

Gobert has added nothing to this team or lockeroom. They gave away an enormous amount of picks and are paying him a ludicrous amount of money.

Gobert shouldn't be in the NBA. And the wolves traded their entire future for him.

Unreal.

[AirBonner]

Can’t quit me!

[fantasy]

Ainge made the heist of the century. Maybe the biggest heist in sports history.

Gobert has added nothing to this team or lockeroom. They gave away an enormous amount of picks and are paying him a ludicrous amount of money.

Gobert shouldn't be in the NBA. And the wolves traded their entire future for him.

Unreal.

Ainge for GM of the year?

[Xiao Yao You]

Ainge made the heist of the century. Maybe the biggest heist in sports history.

Gobert has added nothing to this team or lockeroom. They gave away an enormous amount of picks and are paying him a ludicrous amount of money.

Gobert shouldn't be in the NBA. And the wolves traded their entire future for him.

Unreal.

too bad the facts never support the trolls statements


Let’s start with an absolutely weird stat: Lauri Markkanen is one of just 13 NBA players who have guarded at least 60 shots at the rim this season, his opponents’ percentage on such shots (https://www.nba.com/stats/players/defensive-impact?PerMode=Totals&dir=D&sort=DEF_RIM_FGA) (.536) is lower than everybody in that group except 3-time DPOY Rudy Gobert (.516) past all-defense winner Brook Lopez (.529). That is wild from a player who has never been even remotely considered a rim protector. No clue how long that will hold up, but it’s worth noting that he could get absolutely yammed on in his next 20 rim challenges and he’d still be holding opponents below league average on rim attempts.



they are shooting over 50% this year against Gobert at the rim but he's still the best :applause:

[AlternativeAcc.]

Ainge for GM of the year?

Easily.

[Xiao Yao You]

Easily.

he's not the GM

[Im Still Ballin]

KAT will put up pretty stats but the team will lose.

[Proctor]

Gobert isn't "the" problem. The team isn't good with or without him. Jazz certainly got better without him. It is what it is

[AlternativeAcc.]

he's not the GM

He's a God. He pulled off the greatest heist in sports history.

Your favorite player sucks

[Xiao Yao You]

He's a God. He pulled off the greatest heist in sports history.

Your favorite player sucks

Let’s start with an absolutely weird stat: Lauri Markkanen is one of just 13 NBA players who have guarded at least 60 shots at the rim this season, his opponents’ percentage on such shots (https://www.nba.com/stats/players/defensive-impact?PerMode=Totals&dir=D&sort=DEF_RIM_FGA) (.536) is lower than everybody in that group except 3-time DPOY Rudy Gobert (.516) past all-defense winner Brook Lopez (.529). That is wild from a player who has never been even remotely considered a rim protector. No clue how long that will hold up, but it’s worth noting that he could get absolutely yammed on in his next 20 rim challenges and he’d still be holding opponents below league average on rim attempts

[FultzNationRISE]

Wolves are kinda committed to this core and obv wanted to add a “star” caliber vet to bring leadership without needing too many touches. I can completely understand the idea behind the move even at a steep price, they wanted to go all-in rather than just be a treadmill team. It was an objectively reasonable trade IF they saw Gobert as an ideal fit IMO, but looks more and more like their play-in run and decent showing against Phoenix was a bit flukey. Theyre not ready to take another step. The talent on the roster just isnt there. And that fact is what makes trading the farm for Toody look super awkward now.

[Xiao Yao You]

Wolves are kinda committed to this core and obv wanted to add a “star” caliber vet to bring leadership without needing too many touches. I can completely understand the idea behind the move even at a steep price, they wanted to go all-in rather than just be a treadmill team. It was objectively reasonable trade IF they saw Gobert as an ideal fit IMO, but looks more and more like their play-in run and decent showing against Phoenix was a bit flukey. Theyre not ready to take another step. The talent on the roster just isnt there.

plenty of talent there. Gobert has never had more talent around him

[90sgoat]

Luka would make Gobert score 20 ppg.

[Xiao Yao You]

Luka would make Gobert score 20 ppg.

scoring isn't the problem in Minnesota. Someone besides Gobert needs to defend. Same problem he had in Utah

[90sgoat]

scoring isn't the problem in Minnesota. Someone besides Gobert needs to defend. Same problem he had in Utah

That team is soft tho.

It's probably Gobert's own downfall. They have a soft team and think they can trade for Gobert and fix all their defense, but only players like Mutombo could do that and the modern game isn't like that.

[Xiao Yao You]

That team is soft tho.

It's probably Gobert's own downfall. They have a soft team and think they can trade for Gobert and fix all their defense, but only players like Mutombo could do that and the modern game isn't like that.

they were a bad rebounding team as well. Countless reasons to add one of the best players in the league to a talented young core

[Im Still Ballin]

Wolves are kinda committed to this core and obv wanted to add a “star” caliber vet to bring leadership without needing too many touches. I can completely understand the idea behind the move even at a steep price, they wanted to go all-in rather than just be a treadmill team. It was an objectively reasonable trade IF they saw Gobert as an ideal fit IMO, but looks more and more like their play-in run and decent showing against Phoenix was a bit flukey. Theyre not ready to take another step. The talent on the roster just isnt there. And that fact is what makes trading the farm for Toody look super awkward now.

The ideal defensive fit for KAT is probably an Andrei Kirilenko/Serge Ibaka/Jonathon Isaac type. Or a Giannis/AD type. Basically a PF that's mobile enough to defend the perimeter while covering lots of ground and providing help defense in the paint.

[Xiao Yao You]

The ideal defensive fit for KAT is probably an Andrei Kirilenko/Serge Ibaka/Jonathon Isaac type. Or a Giannis/AD type. Basically a PF that's mobile enough to defend the perimeter while covering lots of ground and providing help defense in the paint.

Gobert can cover the perimeter and paint.

[Proctor]

Gobert can cover the perimeter and paint.

:roll::roll::roll:

[RRR3]

:roll::roll::roll:
Terrance. Mann.

[Xiao Yao You]

:roll::roll::roll:

he's no Greg Monroe that's for sure

[Xiao Yao You]

can't quit me

[Proctor]

Terrance. Mann.
:oldlol:

[Xiao Yao You]

https://saltcityhoops.com/dispelling-myths-aroung-goberts-defense/


Let’s start with isolation defense. This year, there were 87 players that guarded at least 50 isolations. If mainstream highlight reels are your source of information here, you’d expect to see Rudy at the bottom of the pack. Actually, the opposite is true. Gobert allows the seventh fewest points per possession (PPP). Opponents score an average of 0.71 points per isolation when Gobert is defending. That’s less than Simmons (0.73), Anunoby (0.76), Bam Adebayo (0.78), Mikal Bridges (0.97), Giannis Antetokounmpo (1.06), Clint Capela (1.07), and Myles Turner (1.08).




Gobert also allows the third lowest scoring frequency (30.6%), the eighth lowest FG% (32%), and the fourth lowest FT throw frequency (4.7%) when guarding opponents in isolation. So, how’s Gobert so good at guarding isolation? He stays in front, goes straight up with his 7’9 wingspan arms, and contests without fouling.




Next, there’s guarding the ball handler in the pick and roll. There are 201 players that have guarded the ball handler in a pick and roll at least 10 times (min. 50 games played). Since tracking data has only picked up that Gobert has guarded the ball in the pick and roll on 15 possessions, this data isn’t as tight as the isolation data, but it’s what we have to deal with. Of the 201 players, Rudy Gobert allows the sixth fewest points per possession (0.67), which is better than basically every household name including Adebayo (0.69), Butler (0.74), Leonard (0.87), Simmons (0.87), and Antetokounpo (0.88).




Next, we have spot-up shooting or catch-and-shoot defense. This is basically how well defenders close out on a shooter that was just passed the ball. There are 233 players who have guarded at least 100 spot-up plays. Again, Gobert allows the seventh fewest points per possession (0.83).




Gobert again is basically better than every top defender. Allowing just 0.83 points per possession on these higher percentage shots is outstanding.



sadly for the trolls there are facts

[post]

something something biyombo

[Manny98]

Gobert isn't "the" problem. The team isn't good with or without him. Jazz certainly got better without him. It is what it is

This Rudy's impact is minimal

[Manny98]

Terrance. Mann.

:roll: