Joe Johnson says the Suns would 'at least have one title' if he'd stayed in Phoenix

[Lebron23]

I agree with him. Johnson would make the Suns a more deadlier team in the playoffs


https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/joe_johnson_says_the_suns_would_at_least_have_one_ title_if_hed_stayed_in_phoenix/s1_13132_34524584

[RRR3]

I mean he’s got a point.

[Lebron23]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTV-G4xk7Mc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EY0Ozp2UZQ

He was a good all around player for the Suns.

[RachlNicholsazz]

Antawn Jamison
Joe Johnson
Mitch Richmond

3 star players on the cusp of super stardom who could never quite get over that hump

[SouBeachTalents]

Antawn Jamison
Joe Johnson
Mitch Richmond

3 star players on the cusp of super stardom who could never quite get over that hump
Nah, Jamison doesn't belong in that group, and frankly was never close to superstardom. He's much closer to the likes of Abdur-Raheem than someone like Mitch Richmond.

[WhiteKyrie]

2007 was their year even without him, they got screwed by refs and bull shit suspensions.

But with ISO Joe? Absolutely. Those Suns teams especially with prime Amare were pretty scary.

Never winning a title will mean those very good near great mid to late 2000s Nash Suns teams will be lost to the sands of time. They basically ushered in this post modern style of play team wise with the 3 ball as well.

Hell, the Dallas Mavericks would’ve had a couple championships, if they threw more money at Steve Nash in the summer of 2003. Mark Cuban calls it his biggest regret NBA wise as an owner. All they needed to do was surround Nash and Dirk with a bunch of athletes, they probably could’ve easily won a few from 2004 - 2011 region.

[John8204]

Maybe...this isn't baseball where everyone who is close finds a way to get one. They got knocked out by Kobe, Duncan, and Dirk...you didn't have that many seasons where a random team could win a title.

[pandiani17]

2007 was their year even without him, they got screwed by refs and bull shit suspensions.

But with ISO Joe? Absolutely. Those Suns teams especially with prime Amare were pretty scary.

Never winning a title will mean those very good near great mid to late 2000s Nash Suns teams will be lost to the sands of time. They basically ushered in this post modern style of play team wise with the 3 ball as well.

Hell, the Dallas Mavericks would’ve had a couple championships, if they threw more money at Steve Nash in the summer of 2003. Mark Cuban calls it his biggest regret NBA wise as an owner. All they needed to do was surround Nash and Dirk with a bunch of athletes, they probably could’ve easily won a few from 2004 - 2011 region.

They had that duo in their prime for 2-3 years and they were never close to a championship. Had Nash stayed in Dallas, he wouldn't have had the green light he had in Phoenix to run the offense and he wouldn't have become the player he became with the Suns.

[SouBeachTalents]

They had that duo in their prime for 2-3 years and they were never close to a championship. Had Nash stayed in Dallas, he wouldn't have had the green light he had in Phoenix to run the offense and he wouldn't have become the player he became with the Suns.
I mean, they came pretty close in 2003. They potentially win the title that year if Dirk doesn't get hurt.

[JohnMax]

He was in a similar situation to OKC James Harden. Steve Nash was ball dominant and Mariom and Stoudamire were talented bigs that could score a lot.

[WhiteKyrie]

I mean, they came pretty close in 2003. They potentially win the title that year if Dirk doesn't get hurt.

Agreed. And the top end of the contenders in the west were deeper those years than it was thereafter.

[Reggie43]

So they lose their all around glue guy in Boris Diaw? They might be better with Iso Joe but definitely not "atleast one championship" better

[kawhileonard2]

I agree with him. Johnson would make the Suns a more deadlier team in the playoffs


https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/joe_johnson_says_the_suns_would_at_least_have_one_ title_if_hed_stayed_in_phoenix/s1_13132_34524584

Which year?

[Lebron23]

Which year?

2007. They easily beat the Cavaliers. Cavs overachieved by beating the Pistons.

[Phoenix]

They had that duo in their prime for 2-3 years and they were never close to a championship. Had Nash stayed in Dallas, he wouldn't have had the green light he had in Phoenix to run the offense and he wouldn't have become the player he became with the Suns.

The player he became on the Suns was partly D'Antoni's system, but it was also the rule changes in 2004 that he was one of the biggest beneficiaries. Nash being on that 2006 Mavs squad may have been the difference in their series vs Miami. At worst it would have been Dallas and San Antonio running neck and next in that 2004-2008 time frame before the Lakers rose again after acquiring Gasol.

[L.Kizzle]

Antawn Jamison
Joe Johnson
Mitch Richmond

3 star players on the cusp of super stardom who could never quite get over that hump
DeMar is this eras Joe Johnson. And Richmond is a Hall of Famer, what do you mean on the cusp?

[Red Pill Sports]

The player he became on the Suns was partly D'Antoni's system, but it was also the rule changes in 2004 that he was one of the biggest beneficiaries. Nash being on that 2006 Mavs squad may have been the difference in their series vs Miami. At worst it would have been Dallas and San Antonio running neck and next in that 2004-2008 time frame before the Lakers rose again after acquiring Gasol.

I've been saying for years that Nash's legacy is mostly a product of the mid 2000s rule changes. Never even sniffed a MVP until then. By comparison, John Stockton (who is essentially the same player) never finished higher than 7th in MVP voting

[Phoenix]

I've been saying for years that Nash's legacy is mostly a product of the mid 2000s rule changes. Never even sniffed a MVP until then. By comparison, John Stockton (who is essentially the same player) never finished higher than 7th in MVP voting

Hell he hadn't even sniffed an all-NBA first or second team before the rule changes. He had two 3rd teams and the same number of all-star appearances then 'suddently' becomes an MVP level player at 31. It was the perfect storm of the rule changes opening up the perimeter + new system.