Lebron has had a nice career, but..

[90sgoat]

he ain't a legend, won't be missed when he's retired.

I never disliked Lebron as a player, until the media and his entourage tried to force him as a top 10 player of all time and then the sacrilege of claiming he was goat (lol).

As Lebron's career ends on an embarassing statpad mission, I think it's time to look back at my initial ranking of Lebron:

Karl Malone.

Lebron is and always has been, the small forward version of Karl Malone. Consistent, physically dominant, very durable, but definitely not an MJ or Bird and not quite a Charles Barkley.

The way Lebron is ending his career, with still impressive stats, but no impact in the last 5 years, reminds me of how Karl Malone also kept being productive til the end, but not really a difference maker.

On the other hand his nemesis Duncan was actually a difference maker until the very last game and would have been DPOY at 38 if not for the injury.

Then how do we look back at Lebron? Kareem for sure not. There was no great skill to keep him going when the athleticism was gone. Duncan? No, there was no fundamentals to carry him through.

Karl Malone fits the bill, the empty stats, the physicality that stayed, but ultimately, a loser.

[AirBonner]

Nice dear LeBron thread you dumb fvckk. Guaranteed your wife thinks of him when you two are doing it.

[Smook A.]

You wrote all that just to say some dumbass shit. You're never getting that time back

[SATAN]

Nice dear LeBron thread you dumb fvckk. Guaranteed your wife thinks of him when you two are doing it.

:lebronamazed:

[SouBeachTalents]

You wrote all that just to say some dumbass shit.
This applies to most of his posts :lol

[Full Court]

OP speaks the truth.

Bronies in a meltdown.

:roll:

[Spurs m8]

Truth...overrated bum that no one will miss

[Airupthere]

Well said. He’s a player that milked the game more than contribute to it.

[3ba11]

Agreed

And it's funny because Malone and Lebron both got 36k points or more, but in different ways - Lebron cannot get 36k points the way that Malone did and vice versa.... Malone probably wins a lot more with this team because he fits perfectly with Westbrook

Malone was a screen-roll expert as the screensetter, aka off-ball... And he was an expert jumpshooter and quick-iso player off-the-catch.. Otoh, Lebron is a ball-dominator that uses mostly live dribbles (not much post or triple-threat like Malone) and he doesn't weaponize his jumper in iso's like Malone did (avoids contested jumpers)

[Red Pill Sports]

he ain't a legend, won't be missed when he's retired.

I never disliked Lebron as a player, until the media and his entourage tried to force him as a top 10 player of all time and then the sacrilege of claiming he was goat (lol).

As Lebron's career ends on an embarassing statpad mission, I think it's time to look back at my initial ranking of Lebron:

Karl Malone.

Lebron is and always has been, the small forward version of Karl Malone. Consistent, physically dominant, very durable, but definitely not an MJ or Bird and not quite a Charles Barkley.

The way Lebron is ending his career, with still impressive stats, but no impact in the last 5 years, reminds me of how Karl Malone also kept being productive til the end, but not really a difference maker.

On the other hand his nemesis Duncan was actually a difference maker until the very last game and would have been DPOY at 38 if not for the injury.

Then how do we look back at Lebron? Kareem for sure not. There was no great skill to keep him going when the athleticism was gone. Duncan? No, there was no fundamentals to carry him through.

Karl Malone fits the bill, the empty stats, the physicality that stayed, but ultimately, a loser.

LeBron almost singlehandedly created this culture of excuses that has made losing acceptable in the current NBA. He has made hypothetical situations acceptable in GOAT discussions.

I will be so glad when he retires

[Spurs m8]

Well said. He’s a player that milked the game more than contribute to it.

Fantastic post

[Wally450]

Stopped reading after the first 4 words.

I can only imagine what the rest of that shit said.

[1987_Lakers]

Stopped reading after the first 4 words.

I can only imagine what the rest of that shit said.

:oldlol:

Same.

[Shooter]

3ball chill :lol

7,631 is real. You lost.

[dazzer87]

Lestans mad as hell…….:lol

[nineiron]

he ain't a legend, won't be missed when he's retired.

I never disliked Lebron as a player, until the media and his entourage tried to force him as a top 10 player of all time and then the sacrilege of claiming he was goat (lol).

As Lebron's career ends on an embarassing statpad mission, I think it's time to look back at my initial ranking of Lebron:

Karl Malone.

Lebron is and always has been, the small forward version of Karl Malone. Consistent, physically dominant, very durable, but definitely not an MJ or Bird and not quite a Charles Barkley.

The way Lebron is ending his career, with still impressive stats, but no impact in the last 5 years, reminds me of how Karl Malone also kept being productive til the end, but not really a difference maker.

On the other hand his nemesis Duncan was actually a difference maker until the very last game and would have been DPOY at 38 if not for the injury.

Then how do we look back at Lebron? Kareem for sure not. There was no great skill to keep him going when the athleticism was gone. Duncan? No, there was no fundamentals to carry him through.

Karl Malone fits the bill, the empty stats, the physicality that stayed, but ultimately, a loser.


This is SPOT ON

[SATAN]

You are a low life bro.

[TheGoatest]

OP has had a nice attempt of an essay about how LeBron doesn't reside in his head rent-free 24/7/365, but..
OP has failed at convincing anyone that LeBron doesn't reside in his head rent-free 24/7/365

[Kblaze8855]

Lebron Is to Malone what Bird is to Baylor except Lebron won more than Bird, Baylor, and Malone combined so it’s thrown a little off. Can like it or hate it but the career gap is massive. You can choose to disregard it personally but haters not caring what you actually did has never taken the accomplishments away.

Jordan, Kareem, Russell, Magic, and Duncan are the only similar career guys and one could argue for removing a couple of them.

Career outcomes always trumps how anyone feels about them unless you did it so long ago nobody counts it like Mikan. You pretty much have to tear down the whole sports ranking system to get him within shouting distance of Karl. And maybe the system needs it but nobody here has any real say in it. In the end the world doesn’t care if you don’t like how he became a 40k point, 4 mvp, 4 finals mvp, 18 time all nba 20 time all star or whatever it is.

[nineiron]

Lebron Is to Malone what Bird is to Baylor except Lebron won more than Bird, Baylor, and Malone combined so it’s thrown a little off. Can like it or hate it but the career gap is massive. You can choose to disregard it personally but haters not caring what you actually did has never taken the accomplishments away.

Jordan, Kareem, Russell, Magic, and Duncan are the only similar career guys and one could argue for removing a couple of them.

Career outcomes always trumps how anyone feels about them unless you did it so long ago nobody counts it like Mikan. You pretty much have to tear down the whole sports ranking system to get him within shouting distance of Karl. And maybe the system needs it but nobody here has any real say in it. In the end the world doesn’t care if you don’t like how he became a 40k point, 4 mvp, 4 finals mvp, 18 time all nba 20 time all star or whatever it is.


stop being a stat nerd. Malone and Lebron are the same player, except Malone has a better mid range.

you do a decent job of pretending that you're not just another bran stan.

[ShawkFactory]

stop being a stat nerd. Malone and Lebron are the same player, except Malone has a better mid range.

you do a decent job of pretending that you're not just another bran stan.

You don't do a decent job of anything.

[nineiron]

You don't do a decent job of anything.

i'd say i do a pretty decent job of getting your sorry a$$ to post

[Kblaze8855]

You don't do a decent job of anything.


Isn’t it amazing the confidence with which people can be incredibly wrong?


Karl Malone went from a dunk everything, power finishing, brute to a polished soft midrange specialist and in neither style did he handle the ball, shoot from range, or play against wings. He made 85 threes his whole career. Lebron is a giant point guard who has led the nba in assists and has been a faceup off the dribble guy who has made over 2000 threes. A large number of them stepbacks. Saying a guy who shoots thousands of stepback threes, is his teams primary ball handler, has years leading the league in assists, and never developed a polished midrange is Karl Malone makes it feel like you never saw either of them play.

Theyre both black, around 6’9 260, and play basketball. There are very few other similarities in games.

Do people not remember how much John Stockton dribbled the ball?

There literally isn’t shot clock enough to have both of them on the same team. But Malone played like Lebron.

Karl Malone was mean streak Amare and then a tougher Lamarcus Aldridge and nowhere in between was he a ball handler, playmaker outside being doubled in the post, or 3 point shooter.

Karl Malone played closer to Dirk than Lebron. Play finishers and polished in between shooters and post scorers. Not dribble the air out the ball at 28 feet big guards taking threes off the dribble and guarding wings more than bigs.

[warriorfan]

Lestans mad as hell…….:lol

:roll:

they fumin’

[nineiron]

Isn’t it amazing the confidence with which people can be incredibly wrong?


Karl Malone went from a dunk everything, power finishing, brute to a polished soft midrange specialist and in neither style did he handle the ball, shoot from range, or play against wings. He made 85 threes his whole career. Lebron is a giant point guard who has led the nba in assists and has been a faceup off the dribble guy who has made over 2000 threes. A large number of them stepbacks. Saying a guy who shoots thousands of stepback threes, is his teams primary ball handler, has years leading the league in assists, and never developed a polished midrange is Karl Malone makes it feel like you never saw either of them play.

Theyre both black, around 6’9 260, and play basketball. There are very few other similarities in games.

Do people not remember how much John Stockton dribbled the ball?

There literally isn’t shot clock enough to have both of them on the same team. But Malone played like Lebron.

Karl Malone was mean streak Amare and then a tougher Lamarcus Aldridge and nowhere in between was he a ball handler, playmaker outside being doubled in the post, or 3 point shooter.

Karl Malone played closer to Dirk than Lebron. Play finishers and polished in between shooters and post scorers. Not dribble the air out the ball at 28 feet big guards taking threes off the dribble and guarding wings more than bigs.


i stopped reading there. if you think this clown is a point guard, there's no point discussing anything with you.

[ShawkFactory]

Isn’t it amazing the confidence with which people can be incredibly wrong?


Karl Malone went from a dunk everything, power finishing, brute to a polished soft midrange specialist and in neither style did he handle the ball, shoot from range, or play against wings. He made 85 threes his whole career. Lebron is a giant point guard who has led the nba in assists and has been a faceup off the dribble guy who has made over 2000 threes. A large number of them stepbacks. Saying a guy who shoots thousands of stepback threes, is his teams primary ball handler, has years leading the league in assists, and never developed a polished midrange is Karl Malone makes it feel like you never saw either of them play.

Theyre both black, around 6’9 260, and play basketball. There are very few other similarities in games.

Do people not remember how much John Stockton dribbled the ball?

There literally isn’t shot clock enough to have both of them on the same team. But Malone played like Lebron.

Karl Malone was mean streak Amare and then a tougher Lamarcus Aldridge and nowhere in between was he a ball handler, playmaker outside being doubled in the post, or 3 point shooter.

Karl Malone played closer to Dirk than Lebron. Play finishers and polished in between shooters and post scorers. Not dribble the air out the ball at 28 feet big guards taking threes off the dribble and guarding wings more than bigs.

I didn't even think there was a point going into the differences of them as players. Of course size and longevity are similarities between the two..but yea that's about it.

But given this:


i'd say i do a pretty decent job of getting your sorry a$$ to post

Being remotely right is not his goal. Which is always clear

[nineiron]

I didn't even think there was a point going into the differences of them as players. Of course size and longevity are similarities between the two..but yea that's about it.

But given the latest post from the person you're addressing, it doesn't seem like being remotely correct is his goal.

you're right, there are a lot of differences. Malone didn't team hop in his prime to join super teams. Malone didn't call himself the goat. Malone didn't get a tattoo with 'chosen one'.

[ArbitraryWater]

You wrote all that just to say some dumbass shit. You're never getting that time back

:roll:

[Kblaze8855]

. I didn't even think there was a point going into the differences of them as players. Of course size and longevity are similarities between the two..but yea that's about it.


Imagine thinking a guy could spend his whole career next to someone who plays even superficially like Lebron and end up the all time assist leader by far.

[Overdrive]

he ain't a legend, won't be missed when he's retired.

I never disliked Lebron as a player, until the media and his entourage tried to force him as a top 10 player of all time and then the sacrilege of claiming he was goat (lol).

As Lebron's career ends on an embarassing statpad mission, I think it's time to look back at my initial ranking of Lebron:

Karl Malone.

Lebron is and always has been, the small forward version of Karl Malone. Consistent, physically dominant, very durable, but definitely not an MJ or Bird and not quite a Charles Barkley.

The way Lebron is ending his career, with still impressive stats, but no impact in the last 5 years, reminds me of how Karl Malone also kept being productive til the end, but not really a difference maker.

On the other hand his nemesis Duncan was actually a difference maker until the very last game and would have been DPOY at 38 if not for the injury.

Then how do we look back at Lebron? Kareem for sure not. There was no great skill to keep him going when the athleticism was gone. Duncan? No, there was no fundamentals to carry him through.

Karl Malone fits the bill, the empty stats, the physicality that stayed, but ultimately, a loser.

Not even a Lebron fan. Not close to it. But this is stupid. Neither the player nor the career of Lebron is similar to Karl Malone.

His career might've been if he stayed in Cleveland, but he didn't so it's futile.

[90sgoat]

Not even a Lebron fan. Not close to it. But this is stupid. Neither the player nor the career of Lebron is similar to Karl Malone.

His career might've been if he stayed in Cleveland, but he didn't so it's futile.

If Malone had stacked the deck or jumped ship, he'd have won a lot of rings as well.

[ShawkFactory]

If Malone had stacked the deck or jumped ship, he'd have won a lot of rings as well.

But you mentioned a guy..


and not quite a Charles Barkley.

Who kind of did stack the deck but didn't win a ring and still say Lebron isn't on that level.

You have no point. Other than career points.

[Wally450]

LeBron exceeded expectations and will go down, at worst, as top 2 player all time.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Expressing a stupid opinion does not make it fact.

[Overdrive]

If Malone had stacked the deck or jumped ship, he'd have won a lot of rings as well.

If the Pistons would've gotten the first pick LeBron could've been champion as a rookie.

What ifs are not interesting when careers are compared.

[Shooter]

3ball chill :lol

7,631 is real. You lost.

[Axe]

Expressing a stupid opinion does not make it fact.
'Fringe top ten all-time'

[Full Court]

'Fringe top ten all-time'

Truth sure hurts Bronies.