Lebron needs shooting help (many 3-pt shooter around him), so he couldn't win in 90's

[3ba11]

This Lakers roster is what he would have in the 90's, and it's clear that Lebron's gaudy stats doesn't win without shooting

Infact, Lebron had a bummy, 45-wim loser in 2008 before Mo taught us for the first time that Lebron's skillset of frontcourt ball-dominance NEEDS SHOOTING

But carry on thinking this fraud is good at basketball compared to the true greats like MJ, Kobe, Bird or Curry (expert jumpshooters that have superior chemistry and brand of ball so they can win with less, aka secondary producers at sidekick like Wiggins).

[tontoz]

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[StrongLurk]

OP is Lebron's biggest fangirl. Just can't stop talking about him. I think we are closing in on almost twenty years of OP thinking about Lebron daily.

[Kblaze8855]

But in the 90s…….the other teams wouldn’t have shooting either. In just 56 games played last year Lebron made more threes than 10 entire teams did in 1992. The bulls were one of those ten.

Nobody had anything like modern shooting so there’s nobody to take advantage of his teams inability to do it. Makes a comparison between what works now and then a little hard.

[3ba11]

But in the 90s…….the other teams wouldn’t have shooting either. In just 56 games played last year Lebron made more threes than 10 entire teams did in 1992. The bulls were one of those ten.

Nobody had anything like modern shooting so there’s nobody to take advantage of his teams inability to do it. Makes a comparison between what works now and then a little hard.


Teams have always used jumpshooting as a strategy to beat opponents and Lebron's skillset always needed more of it than Jordan's.

Even if we go by 3-point percentage, Lebron never won a title as the leading scorer (1st option) without a team that was top 10 in 3-point efficiency, whereas MJ won several times with among the worst 3-point shooting teams in the league..

In addition to imposing spot-up roles, the other reason that Lebron needs more shooting help is because he cannot play the "shooter" role himself, whereas MJ was one of the greatest jumpshooters in history (goat-level 2-point jumpshooter) and infact led the Bulls in 3-point shooting for most playoffs.

[Shooter]

But in the 90s…….the other teams wouldn’t have shooting either. In just 56 games played last year Lebron made more threes than 10 entire teams did in 1992. The bulls were one of those ten.

Nobody had anything like modern shooting so there’s nobody to take advantage of his teams inability to do it. Makes a comparison between what works now and then a little hard.

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[Hey Yo]

2013 finals....gm 7

James 5-10 from 3pt land.

Chalmers, Miller, Bosh and Allen combine to go 1-14 on 3pa. Chalmers only one to score between the 4

James b2b FMVP

[Axe]

OP is Lebron's biggest fangirl. Just can't stop talking about him. I think we are closing in on almost twenty years of OP thinking about Lebron daily.
His disciples as well. All go out here on a daily crusade against LeKong. :oldlol:

[Indian guy]

Neither would any other team in the 90's, dumbass :facepalm. So LeBron wouldn't be at a competitive disadvantage like he is now.

And LeBron has had plenty of success on mediocre shooting teams. The 06-08 Cavaliers ranked 19th in 3pt% and 14th in makes but were winning 50 games every year and even had a Finals trip. 2020 Lakers were 21st in 3pt% and 24th in makes yet won the title.

[3ba11]

Neither would any other team in the 90's, dumbass :facepalm. So LeBron wouldn't be at a competitive disadvantage like he is now.

And LeBron has had plenty of success on mediocre shooting teams. The 06-08 Cavaliers ranked 19th in 3pt% and 14th in makes but were winning 50 games every year and even had a Finals trip. 2020 Lakers were 21st in 3pt% and 24th in makes yet won the title.


Who cares about losing in the 2nd Round like Lebron did three times with veteran, high seeds from 06-10' ??

To win actual titles, Lebron's skillset needs super-teams and more shooting help than Jordans skillset, in part because Jordan himself was a vastly superior jumpshooter than Lebron and frequently played the "shooter" role for his team..

Otoh, Lebron can't play the shooter role and his skillset imposes spot-up roles, so he needs more shooting help.

It's that simple

In addition to more shooting help, Lebron needs far more scoring help and rim protection, while guys like Wade, Kyrie, Westbrook and Rondo average more APG than Pippen... Furthermore, only Grant and Rodman averaged 8 rebounds alongside Jordan, while Lebron had Gooden, Boozer, Zydrunas, Shaq, Jamison, Mosgov, Love, Bosh, Birdman, McGee, AD and more

[j3lademaster]

Well, the 96 Bulls won 72 games averaging under 106 ppg, which would have put them in the bottom 5 last year in the league. You didn't have to keep up with that kind of firepower in the 90's. Of course, one would also have to acknowledge how difficult it was to average 30 ppg like MJ or 11 apg like Stockton.

And having 3 point shooters helps any offense, it isn't exclusive to Lebron.

[3ba11]

Well, the 96 Bulls won 72 games averaging under 106 ppg, which would have put them in the bottom 5 last year in the league. You didn't have to keep up with that kind of firepower in the 90's. Of course, one would also have to acknowledge how difficult it was to average 30 ppg like MJ or 11 apg like Stockton.

And having 3 point shooters helps any offense, it isn't exclusive to Lebron.


The 96' Bulls had a 115 ortg which was 8 points above league average - so it was the best offense ever along with the 91', 92' and 97' Bulls, which had similar metrics..

Furthermore, the 92' and 98' title teams were among the worst three-point shooting teams in the league based on efficiency.. Otoh, Lebron never won a title as the 1st option without his team being top 10 in three-point efficiency.

Jordan had four #1 offenses compared to zero for Lebron, despite Jordan having far less offensive help and among the least offensive help in the league for the 2nd three-peat..

Ultimately, to win actual titles, Lebron's skillset needs super-teams and more shooting help than Jordans skillset, in part because Jordan himself was a vastly superior jumpshooter than Lebron and frequently played the "shooter" role for his team (off-ball).

Otoh, Lebron can't play the shooter role and his skillset imposes spot-up roles, so he needs more shooting help.

It's that simple

In addition to more shooting help, Lebron needs far more scoring help and rim protection, while guys like Wade, Kyrie, Westbrook and Rondo average more APG than Pippen... Furthermore, only Grant and Rodman averaged 8 rebounds alongside Jordan, while Lebron had Gooden, Boozer, Zydrunas, Shaq, Jamison, Mosgov, Love, Bosh, Birdman, McGee, AD and more

[Hey Yo]

Jordan needed elite defenders so he could focus on mostly offense and very little effort on defense.

LeBron never had that luxury.