View Full Version : Nets 4-1 in the Vaughn era so far
Manny98
11-12-2022, 07:56 PM
Looking like the best defensive team in the league recently, Claxton breaking out!
When Kyrie gets back it's going to be scary hours mark my words
https://i.postimg.cc/x1MFBg3q/kyrie-kyrie-wink.gif
Xiao Yao You
11-12-2022, 07:58 PM
Nets Daily: Frank Isola on YES suggested that Kyrie Irving’s next game may be elsewhere (https://*********.com/social/)
– via Twitter NetsDaily (https://twitter.com/NetsDaily)
SouBeachTalents
11-12-2022, 08:10 PM
They're also 4-1 without Kyrie.
SATAN
11-12-2022, 09:30 PM
They're also 4-1 without Kyrie.
:yaohappy:
They're also 4-1 without Kyrie.
His teams have done as good or better without him literally every year for half a decade at this point.
FultzNationRISE
11-12-2022, 09:36 PM
Looking like the best defensive team in the league recently
When Kyrie gets back
https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Two-Buttons.jpg
Xiao Yao You
11-12-2022, 09:42 PM
“He has to show people that he’s sorry,” Tsai told The Post during the game against the Clippers at Crypto.com Arena on Saturday. “What’s important — and what people miss — is he only apologized after he was suspended.” (https://nypost.com/2022/11/12/kyrie-irving-must-show-people-that-hes-sorry-before-nets-return/)
– via Brian Lewis @ New York Post (https://nypost.com/2022/11/12/kyrie-irving-must-show-people-that-hes-sorry-before-nets-return/)
poor Manny :lol
ImKobe
11-13-2022, 07:40 AM
They're also 4-1 without Kyrie.
Ok so Kyrie is the only thing that's changed about this team?
They are playing Simmons low minutes off the bench instead of him sabotaging them as a 30+mpg starter early in the season
Seth is back and went off the last 2 games
new HC..
I think they'll be fine once Irving starts instead of Sumner.. Just a hunch.
Xiao Yao You
11-13-2022, 07:51 AM
StatMuse: The Nets have held their opponents to 91.2 PPG since Kyrie’s last game. They gave up 118.8 PPG with Kyrie (https://*********.com/social/).
– via Twitter statmuse (https://twitter.com/statmuse)
the trolls hero :lol
ImKobe
11-13-2022, 08:43 AM
the trolls hero :lol
Anyone who actually followed the Nets early in the season saw that Simmons was the key issue with their struggles, which is why he got benched lol. Irving had the one bad game vs Chicago on the 2nd night of a B2B after the Nets had already played 5 games in a very short period. Simmons still has a 120 DRTG right now. Kyrie was balling for most of those games and they still lost. It's a mix of bad coaching and them forcing Simmons to play big minutes early on in the season when he clearly isn't in shape yet, and teams attacked him constantly. The schedule was much harder in the first few weeks of the season and those teams also had the weapons to exploit an injured Simmons and their lack of rim protection in general.
ArbitraryWater
11-13-2022, 09:23 AM
Anyone who actually followed the Nets early in the season saw that Simmons was the key issue with their struggles, which is why he got benched lol. Irving had the one bad game vs Chicago on the 2nd night of a B2B after the Nets had already played 5 games in a very short period. Simmons still has a 120 DRTG right now. Kyrie was balling for most of those games and they still lost. It's a mix of bad coaching and them forcing Simmons to play big minutes early on in the season when he clearly isn't in shape yet, and teams attacked him constantly. The schedule was much harder in the first few weeks of the season and those teams also had the weapons to exploit an injured Simmons and their lack of rim protection in general.
Irving having good or bad individual games is not what anyone's criticism for him has been.
He's had great seasons but hasn't seemed to make any impact on the team even in them.
Manny98
11-13-2022, 11:36 AM
His teams have done as good or better without him literally every year for half a decade at this point.
LeBron would still be on 3 rings if it wasn't for Kyrie's heroics in the finals :facepalm
LeBron would still be on 3 rings if it wasn't for Kyrie's heroics in the finals :facepalm
Superstars need their role players to hit timely shots, what a revelation. What I said was still factually true.
Manny98
11-13-2022, 12:30 PM
Superstars need their role players to hit timely shots, what a revelation. What I said was still factually true.
Role player? lol stop :facepalm, Celtics didn't do better without Kyrie they would have gotten to the finals in 2018 if he wasn't hurt
Role player? lol stop :facepalm, Celtics didn't do better without Kyrie they would have gotten to the finals in 2018 if he wasn't hurt
The historical record suggests otherwise.
tontoz
11-13-2022, 01:06 PM
KyME being out has definitely halped the defense and the ball movement. Pretty obvious.
Manny98
11-13-2022, 01:27 PM
The historical record suggests otherwise.
Context matters
beau_boy04
11-13-2022, 02:33 PM
actually i dont even want kyrie back. he's a cancer to the team with all the off court issues and distractions.
ImKobe
11-13-2022, 09:55 PM
Irving having good or bad individual games is not what anyone's criticism for him has been.
He's had great seasons but hasn't seemed to make any impact on the team even in them.
No impact? Weren't they the #2 seed with the greatest offense ever with Irving playing by far the most games out of the big 3 in a season where he led them in scoring? Wasn't he by far the best player on the Celtics in 2018 when they were the #2 seed?
You can hate on Kyrie as an individual but as a player he clearly does have impact on his team's success. Last year they refused to play him for half a season when he could have been on the road, and threw him in the fire basically as KD got injured and as Harden tanked games on purpose.
It's just crazy to me how obsessed people are with trying to shit on him at every single turn. This has been going on way before the vax and other shit too. He's a great player and he's proved it in both RS & POs. He's had a ton of injuries though so you could make the durability argument against him & that's fair, but going as far as saying he has no impact is just stupid man.
FultzNationRISE
11-13-2022, 10:41 PM
No impact? Weren't they the #2 seed with the greatest offense ever with Irving playing by far the most games out of the big 3 in a season where he led them in scoring? Wasn't he by far the best player on the Celtics in 2018 when they were the #2 seed?
You can hate on Kyrie as an individual but as a player he clearly does have impact on his team's success. Last year they refused to play him for half a season when he could have been on the road, and threw him in the fire basically as KD got injured and as Harden tanked games on purpose.
It's just crazy to me how obsessed people are with trying to shit on him at every single turn. This has been going on way before the vax and other shit too. He's a great player and he's proved it in both RS & POs. He's had a ton of injuries though so you could make the durability argument against him & that's fair, but going as far as saying he has no impact is just stupid man.
Cavs took the Warriors to 6 in 2015 without him and 7 the next year with him. So okay, he played the john paxson/steve kerr role and hit one big shot to get them over the hump. He gets credit for hitting a timely shot that guys like paxson, kerr, robert horry all have.
After he left the Cavs they were still back in the finals. His new team, Boston, went further in the playoffs without him than with him.
The Nets win % since he arrived has simply been better when he doesnt play.
The evidence is pretty consistent throughout his whole career. No Kyrie, no difference.
ImKobe
11-13-2022, 11:54 PM
Cavs took the Warriors to 6 in 2015 without him and 7 the next year with him. So okay, he played the john paxson/steve kerr role and hit one big shot to get them over the hump. He gets credit for hitting a timely shot that guys like paxson, kerr, robert horry all have.
After he left the Cavs they were still back in the finals. His new team, Boston, went further in the playoffs without him than with him.
The Nets win % since he arrived has simply been better when he doesnt play.
The evidence is pretty consistent throughout his whole career. No Kyrie, no difference.
Cavs won 2 close games because Steph struggled in a couple games and then got destroyed the last 3 games of the series. Irving did more than just hit 1 shot in that 2016 series but I wouldn't expect a Bran stan to be honest about it.
Cavs in 2016 & 2017 ran through the EC with little resistance but needed to win two Game 7s in 2018 without him and got swept and dominated by a historic margin in the Finals.. And it's not like Kyrie left in FA, the Cavs got a return for him and made other moves later on to add depth to that team that they didn't have years before.
RS W/L records are not a great argument either, I already told you how last year he wasn't allowed to play on a healthy Nets' squad until a couple games before KD's injury and with Harden demanding his way out, of course that's going to skew the numbers.
Bran has played with more help than any player in NBA history and has a pathetic Playoff record to show for it.
FultzNationRISE
11-14-2022, 12:07 AM
Cavs won 2 close games because Steph struggled in a couple games and then got destroyed the last 3 games of the series. Irving did more than just hit 1 shot in that 2016 series but I wouldn't expect a Bran stan to be honest about it.
Cavs in 2016 & 2017 ran through the EC with little resistance but needed to win two Game 7s in 2018 without him and got swept and dominated by a historic margin in the Finals.. And it's not like Kyrie left in FA, the Cavs got a return for him and made other moves later on to add depth to that team that they didn't have years before.
RS W/L records are not a great argument either, I already told you how last year he wasn't allowed to play on a healthy Nets' squad until a couple games before KD's injury and with Harden demanding his way out, of course that's going to skew the numbers.
Bran has played with more help than any player in NBA history and has a pathetic Playoff record to show for it.
He struggled because of Delly’s defense which Irving doesn't play.
Kyrie is a terrible defender. He gives back nearly everything he scores.
ImKobe
11-14-2022, 12:08 AM
Because Delly plays defense that Irving doesnt.
Irving is a terrible defender. He gives back nearly everything he scores.
Yet Curry was worse the next year with Irving starting... and Irving shut Steph down 1 on 1 when it mattered & hit the dagger in his face on the other end
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