Post-baseball MJ was nowhere near 85-93 MJ - so baseball robbed his body & ring count

[3ba11]

So the baseball stint wasn't some sort of vacation or "break" that "helped" Jordan... It destroyed his ring count and body - his 2nd three-peat was won with a different style than his 1st three-peat.

Btw, Jordan had just averaged 41 in the 93' Finals, so it's absurd to think that a superior athlete and performer like MJ wasn't physically-capable of playing in 94', while lower athletes and producers like Pippen and Grant somehow were..

The reality is that Jordan would never have retired if he lost to Barkley - playing the 94' season would've been no problem and he would've been scoring champ again.. Fortunately, he won in 93' and the 3-peat allowed him to surpass Bird/Magic in everyone's mind.. Without this confirmed supremacy, he wouldn't have retired..

Unfortunately, no media person has ever been good enough to ask Jordan what he would've done if he lost in 93' - but we all know what the answer would be, aka 'hell no' (that's probably why no one asked - it was subconsciously assumed)

[Hey Yo]

41 on 33fga per game.

[3ba11]

41 on 33fga per game.


41/9/6 on 50% in a slow-paced series.

That's like 46/10/7 at the same pace as the 2017 or 18' Finals.

When Lebron was tasked with shooting 30 times, he couldn't break 40% against single-coverage all series (15' Playoffs and Finals)... lol.... his efficiency died a Westbrick death at the higher jumpshooting volume required of MJ-caliber carry-jobs...

Heck Mosgov averaged 14 on 55% in the 15' Finals, while Tristan got 13/10 on 50%, so they were comparable to Pippen's 15.7 on 34% in the 96' and 98' Finals

[Hey Yo]

41 on 33fga with a 40 usage



:durantunimpressed:

[3ba11]

41 on 33fga with a 40 usage



:durantunimpressed:


50% shooting and great efficiency all-round - only MJ could shoot well at that volume of carry-job

Otoh, Lebron can't even shoot 40% when he has no scoring help and is forced to defeat maximum defensive attention (carry scoring load) - see the 15' Finals

Btw, Pippen shot 45.9 true shooting in this seres, which is why the series was basically tie (both the Bulls and Suns averaged 106.7 ppg and 113.0 ortg) and therefore required MJ to average 41 against superior talented opponent (suns had 3 all-stars)

[Smook A.]

41 on 33fga per game.

What point are you making here? That makes his high efficiency in the finals even more impressive and he also did this with an average of 5.7 free throws made per game. Bulls won too and all their wins were very close games. If Jordan didn't play as well as he did, Suns would've won in 93

[Hey Yo]

All- stars were 100% inflated fan votes in 93

Bulls had 2 All-NBA players and 3 All-defensive players.

Suns had 1 and 1

[3ba11]

All- stars were 100% inflated fan votes in 93

Bulls had 2 All-NBA players and 3 All-defensive players.

Suns had 1 and 1



2020 Playoffs

Jamal Murray........ 27/5/7 on 63 TS


Jokic wasn't good enough to win with that, so Murray didn't get All-NBA the following year in 2021 (his 5th year) like Pippen did in 1992.

Essentially, Pippen made All-NBA because Jordan was good enough to win with him, while Jokic wasn't good enough to win with Murray, so Murray never made All-NBA.




All- stars were 100% inflated fan votes in 93

Bulls had 2 All-NBA players and 3 All-defensive players.

Suns had 1 and 1


Barkley joined a KJ-led team that was already winning 55 games and making multiple WCF's without him..

So similar to Jokic not being good enough to win with Murray, Barkley wasn't good enough to win with KJ and the stacked Suns, which means that KJ didn't make All-NBA in the mid-90's... KJ had already destroyed Magic in the 90' Playoffs and averaged 28/5/9 in two different 7-game series against Hakeem in 94' and 95' - Barkley wasn't good enough to win with that, so KJ never got accolade.

[Hey Yo]

1 and 1 = "Suns were stacked!!!"


:oldlol: ..... your desperation is hilarious.

[3ba11]

1 and 1 = "Suns were stacked!!!"


:oldlol: ..... your desperation is hilarious.


I just demonstrated pretty clearly how dumb media awards like All-NBA are (trusting a small handful of Skip Baylesses to decide who's good at basketball).

Specifically, other guys like Jokic or Barkley can't win so their cast members aren't elevated to media accolade like Pippen was.. It's that simple.. Pippen didn't get All-NBA until he had titles and everyone could see that he was on a historic dynasty alongside the GOAT - only then did his Iggy-performance get all-time status (winning spotlight inflation).. That's the historical record... If Jordan had lost every year from 88-93' then Pippen wouldn't be considered a notable player in 94' like he was after the 3-peat

[Hey Yo]

Yet your insinuating fans were right 100% of the time on who should be the All-Star starters.


Give it up, chico. Making All-NBA >>>>>>> fan voting for All-Stars. Not my fault you're to dumb to realize it.

[Red Pill Sports]

1 and 1 = "Suns were stacked!!!"


:oldlol: ..... your desperation is hilarious.

The Suns and Bulls scored the same number of points in that series with Jordan outscoring Barkley by 14 PPG.

So yes they were pretty damn stacked.