climate change and Health issues (Jonathan Patz MD)

[Jasper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDbzZFThMBg

Patz was on U. Wisconsin seminar televised back in 2019.
Could not find exact vid - but this is close enough.

Worth a look :applause:

[KNOW1EDGE]

https://www.climate.gov/sites/default/files/graph-from-scott-wing-620px.png

The globe has heated and cooled for millions of years. We are currently living in one of the coldest time-periods in earths history.

[Avinash]

Siberia could become 'habitable' by 2080

[Nanners]

The real reason that liberals are so tarded is because their brains have been scrambled by climate change (and climate change in this context means the vax+boosters)

[GimmeThat]

here's my nobel peace prize speech: no one has ever tried to detonate a TNT as a source to heat up a living environment.

[Nanners]

here's my nobel peace prize speech: no one has ever tried to detonate a TNT as a source to heat up a living environment.

:oldlol:

[SATAN]

https://www.climate.gov/sites/default/files/graph-from-scott-wing-620px.png

The globe has heated and cooled for millions of years. We are currently living in one of the coldest time-periods in earths history.

Context matters.

[Jasper]

The real reason that liberals are so tarded is because their brains have been scrambled by climate change (and climate change in this context means the vax+boosters)

to bad Nanner doesn't watch vid.
If you are around 2050 you will see NY has close to 40 days of plus 90 degree temps.
My brother in law is a scientist / he sits on the fence / but his research has found that the statue of liberty has 1 foot more water surrounding its shores..
global cooling -- doubt it.

[KNOW1EDGE]

Context matters.

I just gave you 500 million years of context.

[Long Duck Dong]

Republicans need to figure out how to use climate change to their advantage, just like Democrats. Population control in carbon sink nations, limiting immigration into high carbon use nations, bigger prisons and long term sentencing for violent criminal repeaters (prisoners have a smaller carbon footprint than free men), etc

[SATAN]

I just gave you 500 million years of context.

Do you think the temp just magically changed all of a sudden?

[KNOW1EDGE]

Do you think the temp just magically changed all of a sudden?

It’s not magic, it’s called weather. There are various reasons the earth has heated and cooled for 500 million years and will continue to do so. Look at the chart, again, we are in one of earths coldest time periods.

[SATAN]

:facepalm

[KNOW1EDGE]

:facepalm

What about the chart do you disagree with? Are you claiming the earth has not heated and cooled for millions of years?

[SATAN]

What about the chart do you disagree with? Are you claiming the earth has not heated and cooled for millions of years?

No. Nevermind. It's not worth wasting time on.

[KNOW1EDGE]

No. Nevermind. It's not worth wasting time on.

I agree. You can’t really argue with facts and reality, no matter how bad you want to.

[SATAN]

Yawn.

Someone else can come in and state the obvious to this guy. Too hungover for this.

[Jasper]

No. Nevermind. It's not worth wasting time on.

Satan weather is the reason smog as well as forest fires occur.
Satan's best place would be a city in China or LA were the cloud cover keeps his ego going through the heavens.
* he can tell his grandkids or great grandkids he once saw grass... lmfao

[KNOW1EDGE]

Yawn.

Someone else can come in and state the obvious to this guy. Too hungover for this.

What about the chart are you trying to dispute?
You don’t think the earth has heated and cooled for millions of years?
You don’t think we’re living in one of earths coldest time periods?

I really don’t even get what you are trying to argue here.

I assume you believe humans are responsible for “global warming” and we are just years away from an environmental disaster? -they’ve been saying that since the 60’s. None of their predictions have come true. Is it possible they are wrong? And the chart I posted and empirical evidence is correct?

[bladefd]

It's all connected. The more greenhouse gases enter the atmosphere, the more energy gets trapped from escaping our atmosphere. The more energy gets trapped, the warmer the land/oceans/etc get as they absorb the excess heat. The warmer it gets, the more evaporation you get (ice caps/glaciers melt more too so water level rises too). The more evaporation you get, the more precipitation you get. More precipitation means more and stronger hurricanes/typhoons. More hurricanes means more destruction of people/infrastructure/forests/wildlife/etc.

^ All of those things are positive amplifications, making matters worse for us as time passes. Some of them also help contribute to forest fires, deforestation and desertification, which further amplifies climate change/global warming.

Fewer ice caps/glacier coverage also means there is less sunlight being reflected back into space, which means more energy gets absorbed into the land/water rather than reflected back into space (look up 'albedo effect')... This is yet more positive amplification.

We humans are mostly responsible for the excess greenhouse gases entering the atmosphere without a doubt. It's mainly two gases causing misery due to the extreme amounts.. CO2 from coal/oil/gas and methane from excess animal breeding (cattle) for our consumption. Other lesser amounts include NO2 from agriculture waste and other fluorides.

As far as the point of return goes, we will never truly know. No climate scientist or computer prediction model can tell you "Year x is the point of no-return" with 100% certainty. It could be 2022 or 2220. It will also never end the Earth. Having said that, it still does not disprove any of the facts posted above, and it certainly does not disprove climate change/global warming/whatever synonym you want to use. It also does not dispute the fact that we need to focus on expanding clean renewable energy (and nuclear energy).. We must resist coal, oil and natural gas. Coal should have been gone last decade.

[bladefd]

The radical increase in CO2 is correlated with the industrial revolution. Yes, I realize correlation is not necessarily causation, but it's still a fascinating correlation, huh? We have been increasing the amount of anthropogenic greenhouse gases pumped into the atmosphere since the 1800s (around the exact time fossil fuels like coal initially began to be used in large amounts for industrial purposes). Oil made it even worse once cars started to be mass-produced.

https://www.acs.org/content/acs/en/climatescience/greenhousegases/industrialrevolution/_jcr_content/articleContent/columnbootstrap_2/column0/image.img.jpg/1374088243357.jpg

Here's the actual data: https://ourworldindata.org/co2-and-other-greenhouse-gas-emissions

[Jasper]

The radical increase in CO2 is correlated with the industrial revolution. Yes, I realize correlation is not necessarily causation, but it's still a fascinating correlation, huh? We have been increasing the amount of anthropogenic greenhouse gases pumped into the atmosphere since the 1800s (around the exact time fossil fuels like coal initially began to be used in large amounts for industrial purposes). Oil made it even worse once cars started to be mass-produced.

https://www.acs.org/content/acs/en/climatescience/greenhousegases/industrialrevolution/_jcr_content/articleContent/columnbootstrap_2/column0/image.img.jpg/1374088243357.jpg

Here's the actual data: https://ourworldindata.org/co2-and-other-greenhouse-gas-emissions

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[KNOW1EDGE]

And yet despite the increase of CO2 and greenhouse gases we are still living in one of the earths coldest time periods.

[Axe]

Regardless of what may happen due to climate change, the world just can't move on from internal combustion engines all of a sudden.

[Jasper]

And yet despite the increase of CO2 and greenhouse gases we are still living in one of the earths coldest time periods.

if you watched the doctors vid it explains N.A. is literally the coldest place and the rest of the planet is warmer.

[KNOW1EDGE]

if you watched the doctors vid it explains N.A. is literally the coldest place and the rest of the planet is warmer.

I believe you. It just doesn’t change anything, the earth has heated and cooled for 500 million years and will continue to do so for 500 million more years.

[bladefd]

I believe you. It just doesn’t change anything, the earth has heated and cooled for 500 million years and will continue to do so for 500 million more years.

It was never due to human activity. Until now. We are pumping all these greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, which is having all these amplification effects I explained above.

And we know natural causes eventually stop by themselves throughout Earth's history. Human activity is dictated by human behavior and human society, which are both unpredictable and unprecedented throughout Earth's history.

Understand the difference?

[SATAN]

"Species evolve or die who cares"

[GrayGoat]

If the earth is the coldest it’s been in 500 million years than why are the polar ice caps melting? Why is there no shortage of food? Dumbass

[KNOW1EDGE]

If the earth is the coldest it’s been in 500 million years than why are the polar ice caps melting? Why is there no shortage of food? Dumbass

I didn’t make up the data smarty pants.

I know it triggers some of you to know that the earth has heated and cooled for 500 million years and we are currently in one of the earths coldest time-periods. -that’s why I posted it.

[bladefd]

It was never due to human activity. Until now. We are pumping all these greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, which is having all these amplification effects I explained above.

And we know natural causes eventually stop by themselves throughout Earth's history. Human activity is dictated by human behavior and human society, which are both unpredictable and unprecedented throughout Earth's history.

Understand the difference?

I don't think KNOW1EDGE understands the difference I posted in my above post.

I should also add that greenhouse gases we are pumping into the atmosphere stay in the atmosphere for hundreds of years. We don't have the luxury of hundreds of thousands or millions of years like in the historical past for the atmosphere to recover (when humans did not exist).

Temperature by itself isn't even the biggest concern of climate change if you actually understood the issue at all. It's greenhouse gases and the amplification effects I mentioned above.

[KNOW1EDGE]

I believe what you are saying is true, green house gases are bad for the earth. Humans existence is bad for the earth. We consume and destroy. That isn’t going to change. Pumping trillions of dollars into fighting climate change is futile.. Human existence will likely end one day. I’m fine with that. I’m apathetic towards human existence I guess.. This is all going to end one day. It’s inevitable. You and I have no control over it.

You are better versed in climate change than I am. I don’t really care about it. I don’t control the shipping containers, airplanes or China. My carbon footprint is minimal. Just like with the covid pandemic. I’m not going to live in fear. I just want to enjoy my time on this big rock. If that makes me ignorant or selfish I do not care.

[SATAN]

:facepalm

[KNOW1EDGE]

:facepalm

Explain yourself. What do you disagree with?

Edit: I like you rrr3- and although I disagree on a lot of topics with you, I also agree with you on many and respect what you have to say. I’m not the smartest guy in the world and can admit when I’m wrong, or change my view/opinion. I’m very open. I certainly don’t think I’m well-versed in climate change. Maybe I’m blindly ignorant to the issue. I just don’t care- I’m going to die one day.

[jstern]

Explain yourself. What do you disagree with?

Edit: I like you rrr3- and although I disagree on a lot of topics with you, I also agree with you on many and respect what you have to say. I’m not the smartest guy in the world and can admit when I’m wrong, or change my view/opinion. I’m very open. I certainly don’t think I’m well-versed in climate change. Maybe I’m blindly ignorant to the issue. I just don’t care- I’m going to die one day.

Ah man. I don't want to see KNOW1EDGE and RRR3 fighting, because KNOW1EDGE stands out to me as the guy who defended RRR3 (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492500-Bring-back-RRR3%92s-%93existence-is-pain-thread%94&p=14647888&viewfull=1#post14647888).

Also, I didn't read the Bladefd post that you referred to, but chances are that you have a much better understanding of climate change than he does. Never assume that he knows anything about anything that he writes about. There's a reason why they call him "Always Wrong" Bladefd. And I'm not making fun of him or anything like that. I'm just being serious.

[Nanners]

The reason "climate change" is the only type of environmentalism pushed by corporate america and their media lapdogs is because the elites cant figure out how to use any of the actually scary environmental hazards (like microplastics or PFAS) to steal your money and take away your freedom

A couple years ago Bill Gates spent ~50m buying a spectacular beachfront mansion in San Diego, and he immediately bulldozed the mansion and started building a much larger and more expensive mansion on the plot where it once stood... does this seem like the behavior of someone who is worried about sea levels?

[bladefd]

The reason "climate change" is the only type of environmentalism pushed by corporate america and their media lapdogs is because the elites cant figure out how to use any of the actually scary environmental hazards (like microplastics or PFAS) to steal your money and take away your freedom

A couple years ago Bill Gates spent ~50m buying a spectacular beachfront mansion in San Diego, and he immediately bulldozed the mansion and started building a much larger and more expensive mansion on the plot where it once stood... does this seem like the behavior of someone who is worried about sea levels?

Gates doesn't have to worry about sea levels in his lifetime. He will be long dead by the time it matters. That doesn't disprove that climate change is taking place.

[Nanners]

Gates doesn't have to worry about sea levels in his lifetime. He will be long dead by the time it matters. That doesn't disprove that climate change is taking place.

So I am supposed to believe sea levels are rapidly rising right now and they are a huge threat to the future of humanity... but they arent rising fast enough that any billionaires have to factor sea levels into their decision making process.

Even if Bills house wont be uninhabitable in his lifetime, what kind of so-called "environmentalist" spends 50 million to buy a beachfront house, bulldoze it, and then 10s of millions more to build a new larger mansion on the same plot... at minimum this is extremely wasteful.

If youre spending 100m+ on beachfront mansions you shouldnt be trying to shoot rockets full of dust into the atmosphere to block out the sun. Clowns like Gates want to impose enormous lifestyle changes upon the rest of us supposedly because of the climate, and yet we're supposed to ignore the fact that he just spent ~50m of his precious money to buy a spectacular oceanfront mansion that he immediately demolished to make space for an even more absurdly extravagant mansion? Keep in mind that he already owns a dozen other mansions, and hes not likely to spend more than a month or two per year at this new property once its built... ffs in 2019 Bill Gates flew private over 150 times, most americans will never fly private in their entire lives, much less own 10 oceanfront mansions... Bills carbon footprint is equivalent to an entire middle class neighborhood, and yet dipshits like you think hes some sort of climate hero :oldlol:

[bladefd]

So I am supposed to believe sea levels are rapidly rising right now and they are a huge threat to the future of humanity... but they arent rising fast enough that any billionaires have to factor sea levels into their decision making process.

Even if Bills house wont be uninhabitable in his lifetime, what kind of so-called "environmentalist" spends 50 million to buy a beachfront house, bulldoze it, and then 10s of millions more to build a new larger mansion on the same plot... at minimum this is extremely wasteful.

If youre spending 100m+ on beachfront mansions you shouldnt be trying to shoot rockets full of dust into the atmosphere to block out the sun. Clowns like Gates want to impose enormous lifestyle changes upon the rest of us supposedly because of the climate, and yet we're supposed to ignore the fact that he just spent ~50m of his precious money to buy a spectacular oceanfront mansion that he immediately demolished to make space for an even more absurdly extravagant mansion? Keep in mind that he already owns a dozen other mansions, and hes not likely to spend more than a month or two per year at this new property once its built... ffs in 2019 Bill Gates flew private over 150 times, most americans will never fly private in their entire lives, much less own 10 oceanfront mansions... Bills carbon footprint is equivalent to an entire middle class neighborhood, and yet dipshits like you think hes some sort of climate hero :oldlol:

I never said sea levels are rising rapidly, dumbass. It's not even the biggest concern stemming from climate change, even though it is a concern.

Who spends that kind of money? Bill Gates. He can afford to. I don't consider him a true environmentalist. Most rich people I don't because they are not. True environmentalists are out there living a lifestyle with focus on the environment and doing work to protect/save the environment.

[KNOW1EDGE]

Blade do you consider yourself an environmentalist?

I certainly don’t consider myself one- but I try to keep my carbon footprint small. And I hate littering. I love to fish and always catch and release. I definitely enjoy fruits of my environment.

[bladefd]

Blade do you consider yourself an environmentalist?

I certainly don’t consider myself one- but I try to keep my carbon footprint small. And I hate littering. I love to fish and always catch and release. I definitely enjoy fruits of my environment.

Yes. Although I'm not out there in environmental protests and stuff.

I also used to do volunteer work for an environmental organization and did it for a few years (no pay). I studied reports by IPCC and UNEP, also microplastics & heavy metals. That was a few years ago anyways. Also studied anthropology as minor in school w/ several classes on human ecology & energy.

[Jasper]

I believe what you are saying is true, green house gases are bad for the earth. Humans existence is bad for the earth. We consume and destroy. That isn’t going to change. Pumping trillions of dollars into fighting climate change is futile.. Human existence will likely end one day. I’m fine with that. I’m apathetic towards human existence I guess.. This is all going to end one day. It’s inevitable. You and I have no control over it.

You are better versed in climate change than I am. I don’t really care about it. I don’t control the shipping containers, airplanes or China. My carbon footprint is minimal. Just like with the covid pandemic. I’m not going to live in fear. I just want to enjoy my time on this big rock. If that makes me ignorant or selfish I do not care.
maybe the rest of the human race is not.

I consider myself a conservationist.

[Jasper]

And yet despite the increase of CO2 and greenhouse gases we are still living in one of the earths coldest time periods.

it would be great if you had watched the video. .. :milton

[JohnnySic]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fi-YvWtXoAAf9Xl?format=jpg&name=small

[KNOW1EDGE]

Yes. Although I'm not out there in environmental protests and stuff.

I also used to do volunteer work for an environmental organization and did it for a few years (no pay). I studied reports by IPCC and UNEP, also microplastics & heavy metals. That was a few years ago anyways. Also studied anthropology as minor in school w/ several classes on human ecology & energy.

So you are certainly more well-versed than I am.

Do you think there is a reasonable solution to the problem? China followed by the United States are the biggest polluters. How do we get all countries on board to make a change? If just the US made changes would it even have any sort of significant impact?

[KNOW1EDGE]

maybe the rest of the human race is not.

I consider myself a conservationist.

That’s fine. I’m not trying to convince anyone to think like me. I also admitted I am indifferent to the problem at hand and apathetic. You will die one day. I will die one day. I’m ok with that.

[bladefd]

So you are certainly more well-versed than I am.

Do you think there is a reasonable solution to the problem? China followed by the United States are the biggest polluters. How do we get all countries on board to make a change? If just the US made changes would it even have any sort of significant impact?

Hmm, switch to clean energy like solar and wind & nuclear for nighttime. I don't know how you get countries like China to go along. We can get Europe and North America together to push & Japan/South Korea/Australia/New Zealand/few other Asian countries. Most of them are already shifting to clean energy. China/India are the big ones not. India does not have the resources to switch faster. We can probably give some technologies to India to help them switch to clean energy faster & some nuclear energy assistance to get it up. Meaning most of the world that use a lot of energy.

China, Russia, Iran, etc are the difficult stories. We cannot convince them by words because they would never listen. We would have to show them and for China, force them by doing less business there. We must push companies to shift business steadily out of China. Money speaks.

[jstern]

So you are certainly more well-versed than I am.

Do you think there is a reasonable solution to the problem? China followed by the United States are the biggest polluters. How do we get all countries on board to make a change? If just the US made changes would it even have any sort of significant impact?

He is not more "well-versed" than you are. I like Blade, and I don't know how to best explain it without sounding negative, but he really does not have a curious mind. He has a very vapid, very superficial mind. He accepts the first thing that pops up in his mind without question, and never goes beyond that. It's the reason why he only follows media narratives without the ability to look deeper. He doesn't read articles, due to lack of curiosity, even from his beloved CNN. He only reads the headlines. That's it, nothing more. He might try to make it sound fancy, saying that he volunteered, studied reports, micro plastics, heavy metals, etc. But it's all meaningless. It has meaning to him because for him it sounds good, but there's no substance behind it. I don't know who you are KNOW1EDGE, but Bladef is not more well versed than you are on this issue.

[bladefd]

Also knowledge, China has been investing a lot into clean energy lately so its not like they don't invest in clean energy. They also do invest in coal though

[eliteballer]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/officials-fear-complete-doomsday-scenario-202316932.html

[KNOW1EDGE]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/officials-fear-complete-doomsday-scenario-202316932.html

Yes it is concerning how the Mississippi River and various huge lakes are down to nearly nothing. That’s one thing I do care about as an avid fisherman. Lol

I’m certainly not against eco-friendly initiatives. I just don’t know how cost-effective they’d be and if it’s really plausible. I also think it’s an inevitable that we tap out all of earths natural resources.

And with cars for instance, the electric powered ones are worse for the environment. The batteries can’t be recycled and what do people think power the charging stations? -it’s fossil fuels

[SATAN]

This is pathetic. Guy claims to be a teacher.

[bladefd]

Yes it is concerning how the Mississippi River and various huge lakes are down to nearly nothing. That’s one thing I do care about as an avid fisherman. Lol

I’m certainly not against eco-friendly initiatives. I just don’t know how cost-effective they’d be and if it’s really plausible. I also think it’s an inevitable that we tap out all of earths natural resources.

And with cars for instance, the electric powered ones are worse for the environment. The batteries can’t be recycled and what do people think power the charging stations? -it’s fossil fuels

What are you talking about?

Electric cars batteries have 20-30yrs usage then those same batteries can be used for energy storage that comes from solar/wind. Those batteries don't lose much rechargeability (don't know exact term for it). Anyways, they can be used for additional few decades for energy storage. You are talking potentially 50-60yrs of usage from a single battery cell. Then metals within can be recycled, such as lithium and nickel.

In USA, charging stations use electricity from power stations. These power stations have 61% of energy coming from fossil fuel, and it keeps dropping each year. https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3
Here's Europe (it's 41% from fossil fuels): https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Electricity_production,_consumptio n_and_market_overview#Electricity_generation

[eliteballer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLz25OQn3Ng

[eliteballer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOYL2eNi2Ds

[eliteballer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkGDQTUnEzQ

[eliteballer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVjo_RwAYpo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CADLfXOhkU

[Axe]

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Four posts in a row....

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[Jasper]

Hmm, switch to clean energy like solar and wind & nuclear for nighttime. I don't know how you get countries like China to go along. We can get Europe and North America together to push & Japan/South Korea/Australia/New Zealand/few other Asian countries. Most of them are already shifting to clean energy. China/India are the big ones not. India does not have the resources to switch faster. We can probably give some technologies to India to help them switch to clean energy faster & some nuclear energy assistance to get it up. Meaning most of the world that use a lot of energy.

China, Russia, Iran, etc are the difficult stories. We cannot convince them by words because they would never listen. We would have to show them and for China, force them by doing less business there. We must push companies to shift business steadily out of China. Money speaks.

Quite frankly how the world has adapted to America's commercialization they will with going green.
Dare I say we are the leaders of how to live.
America is the coldest country due to global warming , so if we do it (going green) so will the rest of the world , or will be forced to see the difference.
China will fall in line , but your point about India is well stated / but a support of other countries will probably assist them.
Many have stated the oceans will never creep over the shores and affect our lands.
More hurricanes and billions of losses should eventually convince those as well.
Lets face it , I would never live in Florida. That was a pipe dream for many in 50's - 80's ... they are learning RIGHT NOW.

[JohnnySic]

Here we go:

https://rumble.com/v1zvd5y-wef-wants-to-slaughter-millions-of-pet-cats-and-dogs-to-fight-climate-chang.html

Next up will be the "cats and dogs disease". Kill your pets to save Granny.

[Nanners]

The reason "climate change" is the only type of environmentalism pushed by corporate america and their media lapdogs is because the elites cant figure out how to use any of the actually scary environmental hazards (like microplastics or PFAS) to steal your money and take away your freedom

[JohnnySic]

The reason the climate change scam is pushed so heavily is because its vague and versatile. You can blame just about anything on it.

hasn't rained in a few weeks, grass turned brown = climate change
rained heavily, rivers overflowed = climate change
unseasonably warm or cold day = climate change
hot in summer = climate change
cold in winter = climate change
World Series game got rained out = climate change
George Floyd's statue got struck by lightning = climate change

its the gift that keeps on giving. The schmucks keep falling for it and those pushing it are laughing their asses off.

[Nanners]

The reason the climate change scam is pushed so heavily is because its vague and versatile. You can blame just about anything on it.

hasn't rained in a few weeks, grass turned brown = climate change
rained heavily, rivers overflowed = climate change
unseasonably warm or cold day = climate change
hot in summer = climate change
cold in winter = climate change
World Series game got rained out = climate change
George Floyd's statue got struck by lightning = climate change

its the gift that keeps on giving. The schmucks keep falling for it and those pushing it are laughing their asses off.

Whoa this post is making me feel a little queasy... I must be suffering from climate change

[bladefd]

The reason "climate change" is the only type of environmentalism pushed by corporate america and their media lapdogs is because the elites cant figure out how to use any of the actually scary environmental hazards (like microplastics or PFAS) to steal your money and take away your freedom

If you were not so clueless, you would know that climate change includes microplastics, which can impact the environment & also the climate. PFAS can also contribute to climate change because they often emit greenhouse gases as they seep through the environment. Why are you so clueless about one of the most studied things in the science world, mr 3-science-degrees??

[Nanners]

If you were not so clueless, you would know that climate change includes microplastics, which can impact climate change. PFAS can also contribute to climate change because they often emit greenhouse gases as they seep through the environment. Why are you so clueless about one of the most studied things in the science world, mr 3-science-degrees??


I hope you keep pretending to have any clue what the people around you are talking about :roll:

[bladefd]

The reason the climate change scam is pushed so heavily is because its vague and versatile. You can blame just about anything on it.

hasn't rained in a few weeks, grass turned brown = climate change
rained heavily, rivers overflowed = climate change
unseasonably warm or cold day = climate change
hot in summer = climate change
cold in winter = climate change
World Series game got rained out = climate change
George Floyd's statue got struck by lightning = climate change

its the gift that keeps on giving. The schmucks keep falling for it and those pushing it are laughing their asses off.

That's not actually how it works. You are too ignorant and also too big of a buffoon to understand the intricacies of the impacts of greenhouse gases and changes in temperatures.

[bladefd]

I hope you keep pretending to have any clue what the people around you are talking about :roll:

If the goal was to steal money from people, it would be very easy to sell the threats of microplastics and fpas as contributors of climate change. It can be monetized because it is technically true. It's not something completely unrelated to climate change. However you are too clueless to comprehend that.

[Nanners]

If the goal was to steal money from people, it would be very easy to sell the threats of microplastics and fpas as contributors of climate change. It can be monetized because it is technically true. It's not something completely unrelated to climate change. However you are too clueless to comprehend that.

What? I am too clueless to comprehend that idiot jabronies like you can find ways to conflate microplastics and pfas with global warming?

[bladefd]

What? I am too clueless to comprehend that idiot jabronies like you can find ways to conflate microplastics and pfas with global warming?

Both can impact climate change directly and in a negative manner. You can search it up yourself if you don't believe me. You will probably just disappear. I don't think you know much of anything tbh.

[Nanners]

Both can impact climate change directly and in a negative manner. You can search it up yourself if you don't believe me. You will probably just disappear. I don't think you know much of anything tbh.

Okay retard, wake me up when you find a single so-called "climate scientist" that talks about how microplastics and PFAS are driving global warming

[bladefd]

Okay retard, wake me up when you find a single so-called "climate scientist" that talks about how microplastics and PFAS are driving global warming

Now it's about climate scientists? I thought it was about corporate America, the media and the elites? Which one is it, nannyboy??

And yeah, climate scientists do talk about microplastics and PFAS. Perhaps you should do some research before spouting nonsense. There is much written about it on the net if you were to search.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/01/plastic-pollution-climate-change-solution/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0048969721054693
https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2019/08/how-plastics-contribute-to-climate-change/
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-airborne-microplastics-affect-climate-change1/


There is also the issue of producing these plastic, which uses fossil fuels like oil/coal/natural-gas especially in developing countries. It absolutely contributes to climate change not just in the disposing stage but also the production stage.

[Jasper]

Okay retard, wake me up when you find a single so-called "climate scientist" that talks about how microplastics and PFAS are driving global warming

sounds like your into your garbage... missing the garbage can.