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Jasper
11-26-2022, 10:58 AM
Boston is a pretty complete team.
8-9 players all playing a role to win.

How would you stop them ??

In my opinion last year at times it appeared Tatum was carrying the team.
but in all those wins critical shots were not made by Smart , but by Brown.

Brown is the guy to stop and you can beat the Celtics.

your thoughts ..

Vino24
11-26-2022, 11:51 AM
Have 5 legit centers like Cleveland. They are a good matchup

BarberSchool
11-26-2022, 11:55 AM
Tatum is extremely talented in almost all facets of the game, but for a mega superstar, he’s relatively mechanically predictable.

Tatum, while having strong deltoids and hands, also has a small rib cage, and extremely narrow hips and lacks lateral leg and hip strength to bully/dislodge defenders in post up isolations, and is not as naturally comfortable in a lower, more powerful, post-up stance on offense.

Like Wiggins, Porzingis and many others, he has a light body and light thighs, and while this is great for fast breaks, it’s not as optimal for physical playoff half court crunch time.

Defensive minded coaches will find a way to force him to become more adaptable in real-time, and that will be his first major true test as a player.

Avinash
11-26-2022, 12:01 PM
Giannis Antetokounmpo

Full Court
11-26-2022, 12:07 PM
Tatum is extremely talented in almost all facets of the game, but for a mega superstar, he’s relatively mechanically predictable.

Tatum, while having strong deltoids and hands, also has a small rib cage, and extremely narrow hips and lacks lateral leg and hip strength to bully/dislodge defenders in post up isolations, and is not as naturally comfortable in a lower, more powerful, post-up stance on offense.

Like Wiggins, Porzingis and many others, he has a light body and light thighs, and while this is great for fast breaks, it’s not as optimal for physical playoff half court crunch time.

Defensive minded coaches will find a way to force him to become more adaptable in real-time, and that will be his first major true test as a player.

You can't be GOAT with a small rib cage. :confusedshrug:

Real Men Wear Green
11-26-2022, 12:14 PM
You know a guy has arrived when the question of how to stop him is discussed and someone presents an answer like this:
Tatum is extremely talented in almost all facets of the game, but for a mega superstar, he’s relatively mechanically predictable.

Tatum, while having strong deltoids and hands, also has a small rib cage, and extremely narrow hips and lacks lateral leg and hip strength to bully/dislodge defenders in post up isolations, and is not as naturally comfortable in a lower, more powerful, post-up stance on offense.

Like Wiggins, Porzingis and many others, he has a light body and light thighs, and while this is great for fast breaks, it’s not as optimal for physical playoff half court crunch time.

Defensive minded coaches will find a way to force him to become more adaptable in real-time, and that will be his first major true test as a player.

1987_Lakers
11-26-2022, 12:20 PM
Their offense looks great, but the defense looks like it has regressed a bit.

Maybe that will change when Robert Williams comes back.

HylianNightmare
11-26-2022, 01:06 PM
Giannis Antetokounmpo

Bang

Vino24
11-26-2022, 01:38 PM
Giannis Antetokounmpo

You meant Middleton. No Middleton Celtics win

Full Court
11-26-2022, 01:48 PM
You meant Middleton. No Middleton Celtics win

This.

Avinash
11-26-2022, 04:31 PM
They peaked too early.

Avinash
11-26-2022, 04:32 PM
You meant Middleton. No Middleton Celtics win

NO Giannis. But Middleton, Jrue needed definetly.

90sgoat
11-26-2022, 04:45 PM
They're a tough team, mostly because they're tough and athletic at all positions and they have a really great 2nd option in Jalen Brown.

Overall, they're just very physical and tough, which is going to be too much to handle for most teams.

I'm still not completely sold on Jason Tatum as the FMVP player and I think like someone above said, he is a bit slow and predictable, which means he can be slowed down somewhat by having defenders play him really close. He isn't going to blow by good defenders.

I guess it will mostly come down to which teams can match their depth and intensity and not a lot of teams seem to be able to do so.

Wally450
11-26-2022, 05:55 PM
Their offense looks great, but the defense looks like it has regressed a bit.

Maybe that will change when Robert Williams comes back.

That's what I'm hoping. Their defense at times looks like the first several games of last season. But they at least have the #1 offense to counter that.

BarberSchool
11-26-2022, 06:01 PM
You know a guy has arrived when the question of how to stop him is discussed and someone presents an answer like this:
I coulda just said some lazy retaaaahded sh!t like George Gervin “force him left”, but really the next big adjustment defenses will make is having their squad lock into the scouting report, and anticipate & cutoff his very mechanically predictable go-to moves, and slow, rhythmic, mechanical counters.

Tatum doesn’t play fluidly and adaptably yet. He’s very erect and mechanical, like a lanky robot designed to play basketball.

ArbitraryWater
11-26-2022, 06:20 PM
You meant Middleton. No Middleton Celtics win

and no Giannis they win or what?

Wally450
11-28-2022, 09:57 PM
I know they're playing the Hornets right now, but they're on another level right now.

Eventually they'll hit a skid, though. But I'm enjoying this while it lasts. :applause:

ImKobe
11-29-2022, 06:14 AM
Their 3PT shooting (41.4 3PA 40.3%3PT) is going to have to come down to earth at some point.. Scary thing though is that Jaylen & Tatum both have been below their previous season averages at 34.4 & 34.7% each.. There's no way their role players keep hitting at this rate all year though, I refuse to believe it. Their D has been below-average so far so it will be interesting to see if they can keep winning once the 3s stop falling at this insane rate. They have 5 role players hitting 45+% from 3 at 3+ attempts a game.. Horford is shooting 48.7% from 3 on 4.5 3PA. Last year they shot 35.6% from 3. Crazy.

Full Court
11-29-2022, 08:02 AM
and no Giannis they win or what?

Obviously Bucks don't win without Giannis.

They need Giannis and Middleton to get past the Celtics.

HoopologyPhD
11-29-2022, 09:15 AM
Make them destroy themselves with mind games, I could see Tatum and Brown ending up like Shaq and Kobe because they both want to be the undisputed leader.

Real Men Wear Green
11-29-2022, 09:21 AM
I refuse to believe it. We know.

Real Men Wear Green
11-29-2022, 09:26 AM
Make them destroy themselves with mind games, I could see Tatum and Brown ending up like Shaq and Kobe because they both want to be the undisputed leader.
Nothing they have done or said indicates that that will happen. The only quotes you will find from either on the subject are highly complimentary. When Tatum was first drafted Brown wanted him to wear jersey number 11 so that they could have a joint nickname.

MMM
11-29-2022, 11:28 PM
Their 3PT shooting (41.4 3PA 40.3%3PT) is going to have to come down to earth at some point.. Scary thing though is that Jaylen & Tatum both have been below their previous season averages at 34.4 & 34.7% each.. There's no way their role players keep hitting at this rate all year though, I refuse to believe it. Their D has been below-average so far so it will be interesting to see if they can keep winning once the 3s stop falling at this insane rate. They have 5 role players hitting 45+% from 3 at 3+ attempts a game.. Horford is shooting 48.7% from 3 on 4.5 3PA. Last year they shot 35.6% from 3. Crazy.

I can't argue with your logic but I feel they will be ok because they generate great looks. Most of the threes are wide open and come with great space and pace, which make it difficult to guard.

There are a few nuances between this team and last year's team. The Celtics were primarily a drive-and-kick team last year and it caught up to them in the finals when Tatum/Brown would dribble into the crowd. This season, we are seeing more versatility. Everyone can move off the ball or set various screens, which makes it harder to key in on Tatum and Brown. So instead of seeing the Jays drive from the top, we see them catch the ball on the move in the paint with momentum. Tatum/Brown can play a decisive game, given those factors.

To answer I think a team that can either be physical on the screens and gum up their actions or a couple with elite rim protection. As good as the Jays are from the mid-range, I think the opponents would love for them to go iso ball. So far they have been patient when their first option gets covered up, but I think teams will test that in the playoffs.

GimmeThat
11-29-2022, 11:39 PM
they pretty much run the D'Antoni/Nash offense only they consistently have 1 more playmaker on the floor compare to those Suns.

Mask the Embiid
11-30-2022, 01:39 AM
How do you stop the Celtics? Wtf lol. They haven’t won shit :oldlol:. They get stopped every year and will continue to do so…. Just wait for the yearly collapse in the playoffs

tontoz
11-30-2022, 08:59 AM
How do you stop the Celtics? Wtf lol. They haven’t won shit :oldlol:. They get stopped every year and will continue to do so…. Just wait for the yearly collapse in the playoffs


Ever heard the story about the pot and the kettle?

Airupthere
11-30-2022, 09:47 AM
Ever heard the story about the pot and the kettle?

:roll:

Wally450
11-30-2022, 01:37 PM
How do you stop the Celtics? Wtf lol. They haven’t won shit :oldlol:. They get stopped every year and will continue to do so…. Just wait for the yearly collapse in the playoffs

Hope we play the Sixers in the playoffs knowing it'll be the same as having a bye.