If you always "need more help" regardless of where you play...

[Red Pill Sports]

...who your coach is, who your teammates are, who your front office is, which of your teammates you're trading away...maybe you're the problem. And apparently you need help on a level unprecedented for any Top 10 all time player, in which case you aren't as great as you or your fanboys say you are.

[3ba11]

...who your coach is, who your teammates are, who your front office is, which of your teammates you're trading away...maybe you're the problem. And apparently you need help on a level unprecedented for any Top 10 all time player, in which case you aren't as great as you say you or your fanboys say you are.


so true

lebron is the only guy in history that took 3 first options from 3 different teams and put them on 1 team... He did this twice and it yielded preseason favorites from 2011-2016.

People forget that the 2010 Celtics were an old, 50-win underdog, so young players like Lebron, Bosh, Hibbert, Derozan and Wade would've been battling it out for conference supremacy for the next decade... This was the perfect competitive environment that Lebron fled and sought the cheat code (the "decision")

Ultimately, weak brands of ball need more supporting talent, and Lebron's frontcourt ball-dominance creates and abnormally-ball-dominant team (low assist team) that gets destroyed by superior brands on the championship level., regardless of cast.. Lebron is 20-21 (lottery record) in the Finals with super-teams (excluding 07', 15; 18' Finals)

[ShawkFactory]

Stop replying to yourself.

And the first reply, no less. Weak shit dude.

[Red Pill Sports]

Stop replying to yourself.

And the first reply, no less. Weak shit dude.

That's a nice assumption you've made there, dick face. But you know what they say about assuming, right?

[ShawkFactory]

That's a nice assumption you've made there, dick face. But you know what they say about assuming, right?

What's the point though? Because your 3ball account is obviously not banned..

I suppose it's because you were tired of getting your ass reamed all by yourself and decided to "enlist some support". In which case I guess I understand.

[Hey Yo]

Shook due to being ousted

[Red Pill Sports]

What's the point though? Because your 3ball account is obviously not banned..

I suppose it's because you were tired of getting your ass reamed all by yourself and decided to "enlist some support". In which case I guess I understand.

You continue to assume and continue to make an ass out of yourself.

[ShawkFactory]

You continue to assume and continue to make an ass out of yourself.

You just had to finish the phrase :lol

Now that there's two accounts the narrative should ring true.

[Airupthere]

LeMoooooaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Haaallllpppppp!!!! :roll:

[Red Pill Sports]

You just had to finish the phrase :lol

Now that there's two accounts the narrative should ring true.

If you're going to claim 3Ball and I are the same person, you'd better back that up with actual evidence. No, your assumptions aren't evidence.

[3ba11]

You just had to finish the phrase :lol

Now that there's two accounts the narrative should ring true.


You're just mad that people other than 3ball see the light and truth too

It's historical record.. we've witnessed 20 years of a suboptimal brand and skillset needing more help, regardless of cast... so you're on the wrong side

[GrayGoat]

There is no “other” people when it comes to the voices in your head

[ShawkFactory]

You're just mad that people other than 3ball see the light and truth too

It's historical record.. we've witnessed 20 years of a suboptimal brand and skillset needing more help, regardless of cast... so you're on the wrong side

None of this makes me mad :lol

Your consistent dishonesty is annoying, sure.

[Gudo]

I agree. With Lebron, it has been the same storyline wherever he goes. Not enough help. Coaches, teammates, everyone has been virtually blamed. And not just blamed but trashed by his fanbase. Everyone except Lebron himself has been held accountable.

[GrayGoat]

Wherever LeBron goes he wins a chip.

[3ba11]

Wherever LeBron goes he wins a chip.


He mostly loses with hand-picked super-teams and preseason favorites.

His team starts the season as the preseason favorite (on-paper talent favorite), but a weak brand of ball caused this favored talent to underachieve and fall to underdog by the time the Playoffs or Finals role around.

i.e. in 2016, Lebron's preseason favorite should've been flirting with 70 wins like his peers Curry and Kawhi (superior brands of ball)..

[Airupthere]

He mostly loses with hand-picked super-teams and preseason favorites.

His team starts the season as the preseason favorite (on-paper talent favorite), but bad brand of ball caused this favored talent to underachieve and fall to underdog by the time the Playoffs or Finals role around.

Lol, how hard is it to understand this?

[SouBeachTalents]

He mostly loses with hand-picked super-teams and preseason favorites.

His team starts the season as the preseason favorite (on-paper talent favorite), but a weak brand of ball caused this favored talent to underachieve and fall to underdog by the time the Playoffs or Finals role around.

i.e. in 2016, Lebron's preseason favorite should've been flirting with 70 wins like his peers Curry and Kawhi (superior brands of ball)..
Should've been flirting with 70 wins with Kyrie missing 30 games? Why do you never know what you're talking about :lol

[Ne 1]

MJs "no help" va Lebron's "superteam":
'91 playoffs
Pip 22/9/6 on 50%
Grant 13/8/2 on 58%
'13 playoffs
Wade 23/5/4 on 46%
Bosh 14/8/1 on 49%

[3ba11]

Should've been flirting with 70 wins with Kyrie missing 30 games? Why do you never know what you're talking about :lol


He won 53 games with Kyrie and Love in 2017

He couldn't win 60 with Kyrie/Love, while Curry won 70 with Klay/Dray

And he only won 60 once with Wade/Bosh

This is pathetic and not top 10-caliber.

[RRR3]

He won 53 games with Kyrie and Love in 2017

He couldn't win 60 with Kyrie/Love, while Curry won 70 with Klay/Dray

And he only won 60 once with Wade/Bosh

This is pathetic and not top 10-caliber.
He won 66 and 61 with Mo Williams. Checkmate.

[Airupthere]

He won 66 and 61 with Mo Williams. Checkmate.

That's when he was still respectable. Before he took the LeShortCut.

[RRR3]

MJs "no help" va Lebron's "superteam":
'91 playoffs
Pip 22/9/6 on 50%
Grant 13/8/2 on 58%
'13 playoffs
Wade 23/5/4 on 46%
Bosh 14/8/1 on 49%
Wade averaged 16 PPG in the 13 playoffs. Where are you getting 23

[Airupthere]

MJs "no help" va Lebron's "superteam":
'91 playoffs
Pip 22/9/6 on 50%
Grant 13/8/2 on 58%
'13 playoffs
Wade 23/5/4 on 46%
Bosh 14/8/1 on 49%

So you're showing the effect of Jordan finally learning to trust his teammates, letting them thrive vs the effect of bronball.

You give MJ 7-8ppg Pippen and Horace and he let's them become all stars.

Bron superteams with all star teammates that average 24-26ppg and they decline within 2-3 years. You give lebron Love and Kyrie and they decline. Give him AD and he declines.



Sounds like LeExcuses and LeBlame again to me.

[SouBeachTalents]

He won 53 games with Kyrie and Love in 2017

He couldn't win 60 with Kyrie/Love, while Curry won 70 with Klay/Dray

And he only won 60 once with Wade/Bosh

This is pathetic and not top 10-caliber.
Kobe as the starter won 60 games with peak Shaq once in 6 seasons, and that was in Shaq's MVP season.

He won 31 (on pace for 51), 56, 58, 50 & 56 the other 5 years.

This is pathetic and not top 10-caliber.

[3ba11]

He won 66 and 61 with Mo Williams. Checkmate.


Lebron won 45 without Mo in 2008, so the historical record confirms that Mo's spacing effect improved Lebron's drives to MVP-caliber and the team to league favorite

Ultimately, Lebron only won 60 games with the best-shooting teams in the league (09', 10', 13').. Clearly, spacing is what Lebron needs to be MVP-caliber - spacing makes Lebron's game impactful and capable of 60 wins.

Otoh, an expert jumpshooter like Jordan was impactful and a winning player without spacing.. He won 67 games in 92' with the worst-shooting team in the league, while also winning 62 in 98' with the worst-shooting team in the league and without his sidekick for half the year (the same sidekick that averaged 14 on 40% alongside Hakeem just a few months later)

[RRR3]

It’s always funny how you can tell when you completely stump 3ball because he just copy and pastes something that doesn’t address what you said at all.

[Full Court]

OP is spot on. Bronie is fringe top ten and in danger of getting booted out of the top ten by Curry.

[SaltyMeatballs]

That's when he was still respectable. Before he took the LeShortCut.

LeBron wasn't going to win a championship with that piss poor Cavs squad