Is LeBron the best at maximizing his “Pippens” ?

[GrayGoat]

First he did it with Kyrie and now he’s doing it with AD. What do you think?


POSITIVE VIBES ONLY!

[AlternativeAcc.]

Easily!

Turns career losers/nobodies (his MJs) into winners.

Pippen turned career loser MJ into a winner.

There's something to be said about lockeroom presence and impact. Lebron has the best ever in professional sports history. There's no stat for it - but his is the best ever

[WhiteKyrie]

1) 2020 LeBron
2) 2012 Wade
3) 2000 Kobe
4) Career Pippen
5) Career Gasol

At maximizing sidekick role.

As sidekicks.

[ShawkFactory]

1) 2020 LeBron
2) 2012 Wade
3) 2000 Kobe
4) Career Pippen
5) Career Gasol

At maximizing sidekick role.

As sidekicks.

Not Kobe in 01 or 02?

[WhiteKyrie]

Not Kobe in 01 or 02?

Wasn’t a sidekick

[ShawkFactory]

Wasn’t a sidekick

Then neither was Lebron is 2020

[RRR3]

Then neither was Lebron is 2020
Coach checkmated again :roll:

[AlternativeAcc.]

Then neither was Lebron is 2020

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Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[WhiteKyrie]

Then neither was Lebron is 2020

Disagree. AD was definitely their best player on both sides of the ball

[AlternativeAcc.]

Disagree. AD was definitely their best player on both sides of the ball

They scored the same while LeBron averaged 6 more assists and more rebounds. Also hit most of the crucial clutch shots and momentum plays.

Garbage take

[ShawkFactory]

Disagree. AD was definitely their best player on both sides of the ball

Lebron was a 30ppg point guard completely controlling the flow of games. His impact was enormous; the overall numbers back this up. In no way was he a "sidekick" :lol

AD was obviously the best player on defense.

[Bacchus]

Easily!

Turns career losers/nobodies (his MJs) into winners.

Pippen turned career loser MJ into a winner.

There's something to be said about lockeroom presence and impact. Lebron has the best ever in professional sports history. There's no stat for it - but his is the best ever

Kobe turned professional international loser Lebron from only winning bronze medals into winning the gold medal
Lebron lost to international power houses Puerto Rico and Greece

[WhiteKyrie]

Lebron was a 30ppg point guard completely controlling the flow of games. His impact was enormous; the overall numbers back this up. In no way was he a "sidekick" :lol

AD was obviously the best player on defense.
So Kobe and LeBron both have 4 chips as Alpha or Co Alpha. Got you.

Sounds about right in terms of their mutual similar levels of greatness, I guess.

Still 2x less than the actual GOAT. And thank god he was retired in 94 and 99, for you guys.

[ShawkFactory]

So Kobe and LeBron both have 4 chips as Alpha or Co Alpha. Got you.

Sounds about right in terms of their mutual similar levels of greatness, I guess.

Still 2x less than the actual GOAT. And thank god he was retired in 94 and 99, for you guys.

Sweet pivot :lol

[3ba11]

:facepalm:

[WhiteKyrie]

Sweet pivot :lol

Thanks for laying the groundwork

[3ba11]

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2010 Wade................... 28.1 PER... 9.2 BPM.. 0.224 WS/48... 7.9 VORP (#2 in league across the board)
2010 Kobe.................... 21.9 PER... 4.1 BPM.. 0.160 WS/48... 4.4 VORP

Bosh (pre-lebron)......... 6x all-star and 1x all-nba
Pau. (pre-kobe)............ 1x all-star


^^^ lebron received READY-MADE STARS - he literally teamed up with Kobe-Pau II (Wade/Bosh) but went 2/4 including the goat choke and record loss - that's the worst anyone can do

Kyrie was all-star MVP in 2014, while Love was a top 10 player

AD is the modern Wilt

Heck, even Larry Hughes was a 22/6/5 First-Team All-Defender and NBA steals champ - Lebron was gifted a player that was achieving peak Pippen production but made him stand in the corner

[GrayGoat]

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2010 Wade................... 28.1 PER... 9.2 BPM.. 0.224 WS/48... 7.9 VORP (#2 in league across the board)
2010 Kobe.................... 21.9 PER... 4.1 BPM.. 0.160 WS/48... 4.4 VORP

Bosh (pre-lebron)......... 6x all-star and 1x all-nba
Pau. (pre-kobe)............ 1x all-star


^^^ lebron received READY-MADE STARS - he literally teamed up with Kobe-Pau II (Wade/Bosh) but went 2/4 including the goat choke and record loss - that's the worst anyone can do

Kyrie was all-star MVP in 2014, while Love was a top 10 player

AD is the modern Wilt

Heck, even Larry Hughes was a 22/6/5 First-Team All-Defender and NBA steals champ - Lebron was gifted a player that was achieving peak Pippen production but made him stand in the corner

LeBron organically grew his 2nd options from the ground up. 100% usda grass fed natural beef

[ShawkFactory]

Thanks for laying the groundwork

I've never once claimed Lebron to be the GOAT though, so the gotcha moment kind of falls flat.

[3ba11]

LeBron organically grew his 2nd options from the ground up. 100% usda grass fed natural beef


Pippen, Grant and BJ grew from single-digit rookies to viable producers on MJ's watch

When did Lebron develop low-producing young players into viable producers?

He has zero teammate development in 20 years because his skillset imposes spot-up roles that stall young players, so he lacks the teammate development, fits and brand of ball to win organically.

[SouBeachTalents]

I love how the guy who finished higher in MVP voting and won unanimous FMVP is considered “the sidekick” :lol

And people always play it off like they’re equals, but ‘01 Kobe was a LOT better than ‘02 Kobe.

[kawhileonard2]

Couldn't even win gold with Duncan and Iverson on the squad. Couldn't even make the playoffs with Dwight, Anthony Davis, Carmelo Anthony, Russell Westbrook.