Friendly reminder that LeBron reduces his teammates capability

[GrayGoat]

Just letting you know

[3ba11]

as 1st option, everyone except elite shooters will play below capacity alongside him

otoh, expert jumpshooters like Curry or MJ allow teammates to play to capacity

Remember that guys like Antawn Jamison averaged 20 ppg as 3rd option alongside elite jumpshooter like Arenas in 2005, but then he averaged 15 ppg as 2nd option alongside Lebron.

[ShawkFactory]

as 1st option, everyone except elite shooters will play below capacity alongside him

otoh, expert jumpshooters like Curry or MJ allow teammates to play to capacity

Remember that guys like Antawn Jamison averaged 20 ppg as 3rd option alongside elite jumpshooter like Arenas in 2005, but then he averaged 15 ppg as 2nd option alongside Lebron.

Is that because Arenas's elite jumpshooting allowed him to be a play finisher and thus increased the capacity for TEAM assists?

[AlternativeAcc.]

Is that because Arenas's elite jumpshooting allowed him to be a play finisher and thus increased the capacity for TEAM assists?

It allowed them to lose to Brons superior brand of ball despite better talent

Both Jameison and Butler outscored lebrons 2nd option

Lebron defeated max defensive attention, and exposed arenas's brand

[Phoenix]

Remember that guys like Antawn Jamison averaged 20 ppg as 3rd option alongside elite jumpshooter like Arenas in 2005, but then he averaged 15 ppg as 2nd option alongside Lebron.

I remember you saying that Mo Williams provided elite spacing for Lebron, are you saying he also cratered Jamison's?

https://78.media.tumblr.com/8ca50ba9c75cee37b7755c531c4bbd2d/tumblr_o7v8oei9el1qgtanjo8_r1_250.gif

Also, minutes per game is an actual thing.

[Ne 1]

as 1st option, everyone except elite shooters will play below capacity alongside him

otoh, expert jumpshooters like Curry or MJ allow teammates to play to capacity

Remember that guys like Antawn Jamison averaged 20 ppg as 3rd option alongside elite jumpshooter like Arenas in 2005, but then he averaged 15 ppg as 2nd option alongside Lebron.

Jordan had the benefit of illegal defense calls to have an entire defense on one side of the court while he goes one on one, as well as hand check calls in his favor during a time they allegedly weren't called

[Axe]

Jordan had the benefit of illegal defense calls to have an entire defense on one side of the court while he goes one on one, as well as hand check calls in his favor during a time they allegedly weren't called
He also cried to the refs which led to the implementation of the flagrant foul into the league at the beginning of the 90s. But as usual, jackass casuals here are not so much aware about it. :oldlol:

[BigShotBob]

Jordan had the benefit of illegal defense calls to have an entire defense on one side of the court while he goes one on one, as well as hand check calls in his favor during a time they allegedly weren't called

Flat out lie don't troll

Lebron benefits from illegal defensive 3 second calls to open up the lane and paint so he can drive into the lane

[Ne 1]

Flat out lie don't troll

Lebron benefits from illegal defensive 3 second calls to open up the lane and paint so he can drive into the lane

nope, they can zone now, so they can stand just outside the paint waiting, with their man on the opposite side of the court

Couldn't do that in MJs day

You should really know what you're talking about before trying to argue

[Full Court]

Jordan had the benefit of illegal defense calls to have an entire defense on one side of the court while he goes one on one, as well as hand check calls in his favor during a time they allegedly weren't called


He also cried to the refs which led to the implementation of the flagrant foul into the league at the beginning of the 90s. But as usual, jackass casuals here are not so much aware about it. :oldlol:

:lol

Butthurt dinguses still melting down over MJ 20 years after he retired.

Bronie leading a super team to the lottery gave them PTSD.

[3ba11]

Is that because Arenas's elite jumpshooting allowed him to be a play finisher and thus increased the capacity for TEAM assists?


You can only make excuses for why Lebron failed to reach a goat level - you can't brag about a 3-peat or anything goat-level because Lebron has nothing except mostly losing with super-teams

[SATAN]

Just letting you know

Can you please make a thread worth reading next time?

[Axe]

:eek: (https://i.ibb.co/Vj6ysYz/IMG-20221027-192759.jpg)

[Baller789]

nope, they can zone now, so they can stand just outside the paint waiting, with their man on the opposite side of the court

Couldn't do that in MJs day

You should really know what you're talking about before trying to argue

NBA teams don't really play zone for extended periods tho.

Lets just say for arguments sake, this is true, it sure aint working since the path to the basket is wide open now than it has ever been before.

[3ba11]

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Lebron and Luka impose spot-up roles that stall young players, so they lack the teammate development, fits or brand of ball to win organically and must resort to talent-based winning (team-hopping, all-star team strategy)


https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-07-2022/m9G16Y.gif


Luka and Lebron tie a coach's hands into playing 1 way and have lower team ceilings as a result (4/10)... They never learned how to WIN (organic.. chemistry.. brand of ball) and only learned how to team-hop (talent-based winning)

[Ne 1]

NBA teams don't really play zone for extended periods tho.

Lets just say for arguments sake, this is true, it sure aint working since the path to the basket is wide open now than it has ever been before.

If they ever did it in MJs day, it was a technical.

How often they do it is a fun argument, until that piece of reality sets in, lmao:lol

[BigShotBob]

If they ever did it in MJs day, it was a technical.

How often they do it is a fun argument, until that piece of reality sets in, lmao:lol

They played a different kind of zone and teams now aren't playing true zone defense because the big can't camp in the lane like they can in college and FIBA

[Street Hunger]

Most of LeBron's star teammates did not win championships without him though

[Airupthere]

Most of LeBron's star teammates did not win championships without him though

Because he plays this style uniquely well to his strengths. He moves from one group of stars to another and bronballs them and takes all the credit while having his teammates diminished and even trashed by his stans. The cycle repeats every time.

[AirBonner]

Because he plays this style uniquely well to his strengths. He moves from one group of stars to another and bronballs them and takes all the credit while having his teammates diminished and even trashed by his stans. The cycle repeats every time.

LeBron turns them into stars. LeBron is like LeJesus. Water into wine