1994 Pippen, 1st team on both ends of the floor, 3rd in MVP voting, All-star game MVP

[Hey Yo]

Without Jordone.

[Round Mound]

Best sidekick ever and one of the best all around SFs.

[kawhileonard2]

Shaq won MVP without Lebron. Westbrook won league mvp without Lebron and both played with Lebron.

[SouBeachTalents]

Shaq won MVP without Lebron. Westbrook won league mvp without Lebron and both played with Lebron.
Kawhi's never won MVP :(

[kawhileonard2]

Kawhi's never won MVP :(

Won 2 Finals mvp's. Not many did that.

[SouBeachTalents]

Won 2 Finals mvp's. Not many did that.
LeBron's won double that.

[RRR3]

LeBron's won double that.
Damn if he actually cared about Kawhi this might hurt him.

[3ba11]

Pippen didn't make All-NBA until Jordan won with him a few times and established a goat dynasty

Otherwise no one would care about Pippen's 22/5 peak capability (no game-planning required.. not on scouting repot)

He's just inflated by the winning spotlight and was worse than Jeff Green outside the system - Pippen blamed his 14 on 40% alongside Hakeem to the Rockets' center-focused offense that made him shoot too many jumpers, aka he could never win as 2nd option with any of the centers in the 90's

[Bawkish]

MJ did it better in 88. Without Pip's help

[SouBeachTalents]

Pippen didn't make All-NBA until Jordan won with him a few times and established a goat dynasty

Otherwise no one would care about Pippen's 22/5 peak capability (no game-planning required.. not on scouting repot)

He's just inflated by the winning spotlight and was worse than Jeff Green outside the system - Pippen blamed his 14 on 40% alongside Hakeem to the Rockets' center-focused offense that made him shoot too many jumpers, aka he could never win as 2nd option with any of the centers in the 90's
Pippen with Hakeem/Robinson/Shaq is winning multiple titles. Idiotic comment as always.

[Axe]

MJ did it better in 88. Without Pip's help
Empty stats :yaohappy:

[Bawkish]

Empty stats :yaohappy:

So does 1994 Pip and basically every team that failed in the playoffs

[Axe]

So does 1994 Pip and basically every team that failed in the playoffs
Yet somehow 1994 pip went deeper in the playoffs than jordan did without him.

[Bawkish]

Yet somehow 1994 pip went deeper in the playoffs than jordan did without him.

Both 1994 & 1988 Bulls went out in 2nd round, and that's the farthest they got without each other's help or any super team involved

[Baller789]

Yet somehow 1994 pip went deeper in the playoffs than jordan did without him.


Both 1994 & 1988 Bulls went out in 2nd round, and that's the farthest they got without each other's help or any super team involved

Axe getting bodybagged. :lol

[Axe]

Both 1994 & 1988 Bulls went out in 2nd round, and that's the farthest they got without each other's help or any super team involved
Meanwhile the 2000 blazers were just a win away from making the nba finals that year. Please don't be an idiot like the slut poster before me. :oldlol:

[Baller789]

The idiot even had the nerve to move the goalpost in plain sight. :roll:

[Axe]

Stupid slut really can't relate so as usual, she just resorts to lousy ad hominems. :sleeping

Anyway, pippen actually made his playoff debut in 1988 and played 10 games during that year. Jordan also won his first playoff series ever once his team already got him.

[Baller789]

It's no longer about moving the goalposts. Its moving the entire stadium. :roll:

[Axe]

Still can't relate. Just keeps on yapping lmao.

[Bawkish]

Yet somehow 1994 pip went deeper in the playoffs than jordan did without him.


Both 1994 & 1988 Bulls went out in 2nd round, and that's the farthest they got without each other's help or any super team involved


Meanwhile the 2000 blazers were just a win away from making the nba finals that year. Please don't be an idiot like the slut poster before me. :oldlol:

:facepalm:banghead: Bronies in a nutshell

[Bawkish]

It's no longer about moving the goalposts. Its moving the entire stadium. :roll:

dude's moving the entire World Cup out of Qatar

[Axe]

:facepalm:banghead: Bronies in a nutshell
Because you said...

that's the farthest they got without each other's help or any super team involved

Dumbass. Looks like you're thinking the 2000 blazers were a 'superteam' as well. :oldlol:

[97 bulls]

:facepalm:banghead: Bronies in a nutshell

Correct me of I'm wrong, but wasn't Pippen on the Bulls in 88?

[Bacchus]

James won two of his titles with a finals MVP. Jordan never won a championship playing with finals MVP. Wade 12 all-star games. Pippen played in 7 all-star games. Lets not forget that Pippen won a championship in 1998 with Jordan. In 1999 Pippen played with 2 of the top 30 all time players. Hakeem and Barkley and got bounced in the first round 3-1. Lastly Lebron could not win a Gold Medal without Kobe. Lebron lost to international power houses Puerto Rico and Greece

[Axe]

Correct me of I'm wrong, but wasn't Pippen on the Bulls in 88?
:applause:

[jlip]

Correct me of I'm wrong, but wasn't Pippen on the Bulls in 88?

I was just about to type this.

[3ba11]

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Pippen with Hakeem/Robinson/Shaq is winning multiple titles. Idiotic comment as always.


pippen SPECIFICALLY SAID to rachel nichols on espn that he didn't fit with Hakeem because he had to shoot too many jumpers and didn't fit as a spot-up shooter - he also compared this bad fit to Westbrick's bad fit with Harden - yes that's right - Pippen compared himself to Westbrook as a fellow, garbage spot-up shooter that can't fit with certain guys like centers, aka Hakeem or ball-dominators, aka Harden:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmBbmIE_Kxc&t=114s


That's why all those centers you listed needed Horry to win a bunch of chips - centers need spacing just like spotty-shooting ball-dominators that can't consistently shoot over defenses (Luka, Lebron, Westbrook).

and we already know that Pippen failed to reach peak-Horry level in the Finals (0/6 (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499833-Comparing-Pippen-s-6-Finals-performances-to-peak-Horry-performance-(95-Finals)) in reaching Horry's gamescore from the 95' Finals)...

So again, we know that Pippen couldn't win as the 2nd option with centers like Ewing, Hakeem, Shaq, Robinson or Alonzo - he said himself that he can't shoot the required "horry" jumpshooting load and needed the system to move the ball around for his slashes (which means that he needs expert jumpshooting teammates and 1st option that allow the ball to move, not centers or fellow spotty-shooting ball-handlers)

[3ba11]

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pippen SPECIFICALLY SAID to rachel nichols on espn that he didn't fit with Hakeem because he had to shoot too many jumpers and didn't fit as a spot-up shooter - he also compared this bad fit to Westbrick's bad fit with Harden - yes that's right - Pippen compared himself to Westbrook as a fellow, garbage spot-up shooter that can't fit with certain guys like centers, aka Hakeem or ball-dominators, aka Harden:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmBbmIE_Kxc&t=114s


That's why all those centers you listed needed Horry to win a bunch of chips - centers need spacing just like spotty-shooting ball-dominators that can't consistently shoot over defenses (Luka, Lebron, Westbrook).

and we already know that Pippen failed to reach peak-Horry level in the Finals (0/6 (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499833-Comparing-Pippen-s-6-Finals-performances-to-peak-Horry-performance-(95-Finals)) in reaching Horry's gamescore from the 95' Finals)...

So again, we know that Pippen couldn't win as the 2nd option with centers like Ewing, Hakeem, Shaq, Robinson or Alonzo - he said himself that he can't shoot the required "horry" jumpshooting load and needed the system to move the ball around for his slashes (which means that he needs expert jumpshooting teammates and 1st option that allow the ball to move, not centers or fellow spotty-shooting ball-handlers)


^^^ Pippen 100% concedes that he could never: 1) play in today's era of 3-point shooting.... 2) win with guys that need shooting/elite spacing like centers or ball-dominators

He literally says it right there, aka everything I've been saying about Pippen - ONLY JORDAN can win with a lane-clogger like Pippen - no center or ball-dominator that needs shooting can win with Pippen.. Case closed.. F'in bricklayer and butterfingers in the clutch - worse than Jeff Green outside the dynasty system that he grew up in (see 89' and 99')

[Baller789]

Because you said...


Dumbass. Looks like you're thinking the 2000 blazers were a 'superteam' as well. :oldlol:

Was that the team with Pip, Steve Smith, Jermaine O'Neal, Bonzi Wells, Sabonis, Sheed, Stoudamire, and Brian Grant?

[Axe]

So how many finals berth did they have the following year?

[Baller789]

Was that the team with Pip, Steve Smith, Jermaine O'Neal, Bonzi Wells, Sabonis, Sheed, Stoudamire, and Brian Grant?


So how many finals berth did they have the following year?
I would answer you after you answer my question first Axey. I know you had a rough upbringing, but please show some class from time to time.

[Axe]

Stupid homo troll demanding answers. Lol.

[3ba11]

https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-06-2022/SH1Lnw.gif





pippen SPECIFICALLY SAID to rachel nichols on espn that he didn't fit with Hakeem because he had to shoot too many jumpers and didn't fit as a spot-up shooter - he also compared this bad fit to Westbrick's bad fit with Harden - yes that's right - Pippen compared himself to Westbrook as a fellow, garbage spot-up shooter that can't fit with certain guys like centers, aka Hakeem or ball-dominators, aka Harden:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmBbmIE_Kxc&t=114s


That's why all those centers you listed needed Horry to win a bunch of chips - centers need spacing just like spotty-shooting ball-dominators that can't consistently shoot over defenses (Luka, Lebron, Westbrook).

and we already know that Pippen failed to reach peak-Horry level in the Finals (0/6 (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499833-Comparing-Pippen-s-6-Finals-performances-to-peak-Horry-performance-(95-Finals)) in reaching Horry's gamescore from the 95' Finals)...

So again, we know that Pippen couldn't win as the 2nd option with centers like Ewing, Hakeem, Shaq, Robinson or Alonzo - he said himself that he can't handle the required "horry" jumpshooting load and needed the system to move the ball around for his slashes (which means that he needs expert jumpshooting teammates and 1st option that allow the ball to move, not centers or fellow spotty-shooting ball-handlers)


bada bing bada boom

[Bawkish]

Because you said...


Dumbass. Looks like you're thinking the 2000 blazers were a 'superteam' as well. :oldlol:

You're the dumbass whose arguing for 1994 Pip so why the hell you brought up 2000 Blazers?

I know you're just a 12 year old kid but the "superteam" concept wasn't a thing in late 90s and the 2000 Blazers is the closest to a superteam that were assembled that time. It wasn't the same superteam compared to the Heatles or 2017 GSW or 08 Celtics but they were a collection of good veteran players who were still capable to challenge the PJax/Shaq/Kobe supremacy

And i bet you if you put MJ in that roster they would never choke that 15pt lead in 4th. That's why Shaq told him he won't be THAT guy

[Baller789]

You're the dumbass whose arguing for 1994 Pip so why the hell you brought up 2000 Blazers?

I know you're just a 12 year old kid but the "superteam" concept wasn't a thing in late 90s and the 2000 Blazers is the closest to a superteam that were assembled that time. It wasn't the same superteam compared to the Heatles or 2017 GSW or 08 Celtics but they were a collection of good veteran players who were still capable to challenge the PJax/Shaq/Kobe supremacy

And i bet you if you put MJ in that roster they would never choke that 15pt lead in 4th. That's why Shaq told him he won't be THAT guy

Axe is just trying to save face man, take it easy on him. :lol

[Axe]

'Closest thing to a team' despite never making the finals during that period at all. :roll:

Thinks the idiot who thought the 1988 bulls didn't have scottie pippen yet in that roster. :lebronamazed:

Edit: the sorry bitch above me really can't stop yapping at all, guys.

[Baller789]

Wasnt even talking to him yet he got triggered again :oldlol:

[Bawkish]

Correct me of I'm wrong, but wasn't Pippen on the Bulls in 88?

I guess, he's the Pete Myers that team

[Axe]

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[Bawkish]

MJ did it better in 88. Without Pip's help


'Closest thing to a team' despite never making the finals during that period at all. :roll:

Thinks the idiot who thought the 1988 bulls didn't have scottie pippen yet in that roster. :lebronamazed:

Edit: the sorry bitch above me really can't stop yapping at all, guys.

I never said Pip wasn't in the roster, i said he was almost non-existent in that playoffs and you would be an idiot if you argue for his "role" in lifting that team as he was only a rookie. And i already explained the superteam in the 90s so im sorry if the entire point blows past your head

[Axe]

So you're saying whatever 'empty stats' jordan did in those three seasons before pippen's arrival to the bulls is better than pippen winning any playoff series without him? Gotcha.

[Bawkish]

So you're saying whatever 'empty stats' jordan did in those three seasons before pippen's arrival to the bulls is better than pippen winning any playoff series without him? Gotcha.

It's funny when you attribute the "empty stats" to whatever MJ has done but not to Pippen

[Axe]

It's funny when you attribute the "empty stats" to whatever MJ has done but not to Pippen
I never actually implied he was "empty stats" during those seasons. Ofc the team won more games when he was on the floor. :oldlol:

I just said what i saw in another thread. And in case you're wondering, nope. This one didn't come from your hated bronies.