‘90s illegal defense

[Ne 1]

Jordan had the benefit of illegal defense calls to have an entire defense on one side of the court while he goes one on one, as well as hand check calls in his favor during a time they allegedly weren't called. In the ‘90s, you couldn’t stand outside of the paint on the ball side when their man is outside of arm's length, it's illegal defense and resulted in a technical free throw.

Not like today, where they can legally do it without penalty!

[Baller789]

Jordan had the benefit of illegal defense calls to have an entire defense on one side of the court while he goes one on one, as well as hand check calls in his favor during a time they allegedly weren't called. In the ‘90s, you couldn’t stand outside of the paint on the ball side when their man is outside of arm's length, it's illegal defense and resulted in a technical free throw.

Not like today, where they can legally do it without penalty!

So tell me, why is the driving lane more open now than it was before?

[Full Court]

Jordan had the benefit of illegal defense calls to have an entire defense on one side of the court while he goes one on one, as well as hand check calls in his favor during a time they allegedly weren't called. In the ‘90s, you couldn’t stand outside of the paint on the ball side when their man is outside of arm's length, it's illegal defense and resulted in a technical free throw.

Not like today, where they can legally do it without penalty!

^Does this low-IQ drooler realize that the illegal defense rules were the same for every player in the NBA? It wasn't a rule that applied only to Jordan? I.e., it didn't give Jordan an advantage over anyone else?

If this rule made it so easy, why wasn't everyone else scoring like Jordan?

Sounds like damage control to me. Jordan won 10 scoring titles. How many has Bronie won?

[kawhileonard2]

Made it harder to score. Since 2005 it is much easier to score. Like comparing rules against OB's in 90's vs now.

[3ba11]

Jordan had the benefit of illegal defense calls to have an entire defense on one side of the court while he goes one on one, as well as hand check calls in his favor during a time they allegedly weren't called. In the ‘90s, you couldn’t stand outside of the paint on the ball side when their man is outside of arm's length, it's illegal defense and resulted in a technical free throw.

Not like today, where they can legally do it without penalty!


You have the rules all wrong

Illegal defense governed double-teaming (players had to commit to double-teams and not play at a distance where they could be considered the defender on someone that didn't have the ball.

In addition to double teaming, illegal defense also governed how far a player could sag off his man in the halfcourt - it allowed players to sag off their man to the edge of the paint (so if their man was at the 3-point line, the defender could sag off to the edge of the paint; this includes weakside players).

In addition to double-teaming and sag-off distances, it governed paint defense - it allowed paint-camping if your man was within 3 feet of the paint on either side.. there was no "armslength" rule - the ambiguity of these rules usually meant that they weren't enforced at all and it was a free for all in the paint - the fact that offenses didn't space the court further encouraged a free-for-all in the half court (which yielded more pure/instinctual scoring ability and touch from the best players)

[Kblaze8855]

What you described was actually prevented by something nobody under 35-40 remembers…illegal offense. They added it in Jordan’s 3 season or so specifically to stop iso plays. They called it an isolation violation.



https://youtu.be/5AVCvVsrI0o


Hung around for some time too:




https://youtu.be/EatxB5b223w



You’ll hear the announcer there call it the Bernard King rule but I’ve heard it called the Jordan rule by local broadcasts and even heard it was to stop Nique. Whoever the target was it stopped a lot of the things it feels you think happened.




A lot of those old rules are just totally forgotten.

[BigShotBob]

Illegal offense wasn't enforced much but I do remember it happening in the 88' Boston and Pistons playoff game

It was made because of MJ though they'd park him on one side and everyone else would be on the other side

[Ne 1]

You have the rules all wrong

Illegal defense governed double-teaming (players had to commit to double-teams and not play at a distance where they could be considered the defender on someone that didn't have the ball.

In addition to double teaming, illegal defense also governed how far a player could sag off his man in the halfcourt - it allowed players to sag off their man to the edge of the paint (so if their man was at the 3-point line, the defender could sag off to the edge of the paint; this includes weakside players).

In addition to double-teaming and sag-off distances, it governed paint defense - it allowed paint-camping if your man was within 3 feet of the paint on either side.. there was no "armslength" rule - the ambiguity of these rules usually meant that they weren't enforced at all and it was a free for all in the paint - the fact that offenses didn't space the court further encouraged a free-for-all in the half court (which yielded more pure/instinctual scoring ability and touch from the best players)

guarding distance, not arms length, my mistake

Regardless, you can't camp on the opposite side of the paint as your man, thus, you couldn't pack the paint to wait on drives, giving him the advantage to take someone one on one and beat the defense to the rim

[BigShotBob]

guarding distance, not arms length, my mistake

Regardless, you can't camp on the opposite side of the paint as your man, thus, you couldn't pack the paint to wait on drives, giving him the advantage to take someone one on one and beat the defense to the rim

He didn;t have to "beat" the defense to the rim because there was no defensive 3 seconds so there was ALWAYS someone in the paint

[Baller789]

He didn;t have to "beat" the defense to the rim because there was no defensive 3 seconds so there was ALWAYS someone in the paint

These days its almost always either no one is in the paint, or the rim protector is out of position and is chasing the driver.

[kawhileonard2]

This is why America lost in 2004, 2006

[BigShotBob]

These days its almost always either no one is in the paint, or the rim protector is out of position and is chasing the driver.

Yep or worst of all, it's a switch. I saw Donovan Mitchell pick on Austin Reaves multiple times tonight and I saw Luka drive on some guy on Denver that I've never even heard of but he had to have been at best 6'3 or 6'4 giving up 50lbs.

Can you imagine if MJ had the benefit of getting Tim Hardaway Jr switched on him or Jamal Murray. Advanced tactics though to watch your weakest defenders switch onto star players and helplessly try to defend on an island

[Ne 1]

Yep or worst of all, it's a switch. I saw Donovan Mitchell pick on Austin Reaves multiple times tonight and I saw Luka drive on some guy on Denver that I've never even heard of but he had to have been at best 6'3 or 6'4 giving up 50lbs.

Can you imagine if MJ had the benefit of getting Tim Hardaway Jr switched on him or Jamal Murray. Advanced tactics though to watch your weakest defenders switch onto star players and helplessly try to defend on an island

Difference being, they are both threats to pass to open teammates, whereas Jordan is well known for forcing shots even when doubled.

Good try though man, but his playing history shows that it wouldn't matter, especially when a coach, in a championship game, had to take a timeout to ask over and over who was open just to then tell him to "get him the damn ball", lmao!