Biden traded a queer for the merchant of death

[BigKobeFan]

Great deal. May as well trade brady for some teams equipment manager

[Gruppenführer]

Meanwhile, American Paul Whelan who has been in a Russian prison since December 2018 is still behind bars. But, since Brittney Griner is a woman, Black, and a lesbian, she gets priority over the White guy. She's more important.

[baudkarma]

Once again, I am reminded that for a large segment of the population of the USA, there is simply nothing Biden can do that they approve of. Every single thing he does is wrong, and probably criminal and treasonous as well. Whelan was a Russian prisoner for two years while DJT was still president. Why didn't Trump get him out of Soviet hands while he was still in office?

[BigKobeFan]

Once again, I am reminded that for a large segment of the population of the USA, there is simply nothing Biden can do that they approve of. Every single thing he does is wrong, and probably criminal and treasonous as well. Whelan was a Russian prisoner for two years while DJT was still president. Why didn't Trump get him out of Soviet hands while he was still in office?

Lets also blame trump for the afghanistan withdrawal too. Trump had from 2016 to 2020 to withdraw from Afghanistan. Why didn't he do it? Why did he leave that up to Biden.

[Patrick Chewing]

Once again, I am reminded that for a large segment of the population of the USA, there is simply nothing Biden can do that they approve of. Every single thing he does is wrong, and probably criminal and treasonous as well. Whelan was a Russian prisoner for two years while DJT was still president. Why didn't Trump get him out of Soviet hands while he was still in office?

That's even more a reason for Whelan to be freed rather than Griner. He's been imprisoned longer. Trump has nothing to do with this conversation. Biden is President now. Why wasn't he able to free Whelan??

[JohnnySic]

Wow, what a trade. Will the Russians throw in some Vodka at least?

[Off the Court]

It's not fair because Brittany Griner likes girls and that makes me really uncomfortable.

[Patrick Chewing]

Countries have a habit of fleecing Democrat Presidents when it comes to prisoner swaps.

[BigKobeFan]

Countries have a habit of fleecing Democrat Presidents when it comes to prisoner swaps.

Not only prisoner swaps, it includes trade deals and giving away military weaponry as well.

[baudkarma]

Meanwhile, American Paul Whelan who has been in a Russian prison since December 2018 is still behind bars. But, since Brittney Griner is a woman, Black, and a lesbian, she gets priority over the White guy. She's more important.

She's much less important. That's why the deal was possible. Russia doesn't give a rats about her or her vape cartridges. She was arrested for leverage and publicity. Once she started to slip off the public radar and Putin got the deal he wanted, the swap was made.

Whelan was found guilty of espionage. Russia cares a whole lot more about him then they do about some WNBA player. Biden wasn't able to negotiate his release probably for the same reason Trump wasn't able to back when he was POTUS. Either the USSR will not consider releasing him under any circumstances, or the deal they want in exchange is ridiculously one-sided.

[Lakers Legend#32]

She's black.

She's a lesbian.

These are the reasons conservatives wanted her to rot in a Russian prison.

Forget their outrage over an arms dealer of someone else should be let out first.

They're disappointment is all over this board.

[Lakers Legend#32]

OK MAGA D!psh!ts,

The family of captive Marine Paul Whelan graciously applauds President Biden for securing the release of Brittney Griner, calling it a "success" and the "right decision." because Biden secured "the deal that was possible rather that waiting for one that wasn't going to be."

Whelan's family kills off the Republicans talking point.

[BigKobeFan]

OK MAGA D!psh!ts,

The family of captive Marine Paul Whelan graciously applauds President Biden for securing the release of Brittney Griner, calling it a "success" and the "right decision." because Biden secured "the deal that was possible rather that waiting for one that wasn't going to be."

Whelan's family kills off the Republicans talking point.

The whelans have to kiss some ass to this administration in order to see their family member again. Or wait another 2 years in hopes that for another party president to come in. What do you think they would do?

Imagine being so stupid that you talk a bunch of shit about biden, but then begging biden to trade for your family member

[Off the Court]

It sounds like freeing Whelan isn't up to Biden and the Russians just don't care about keeping a pot smoking basketball player.

But I'm sure TinyKobeFan knows more than the family does. :oldlol:

[bladefd]

That's even more a reason for Whelan to be freed rather than Griner. He's been imprisoned longer. Trump has nothing to do with this conversation. Biden is President now. Why wasn't he able to free Whelan??

They have been trying to trade for Whelan for years but Russian government won't agree to terms.

Trump had a chance of doing something about Whelan. Let's not act like only Biden failed trading for Whelan. Trump had over 2yrs to trade for Whelan. Clearly something out of his control held it up.

[KNOW1EDGE]

Well, bit of a lopsided trade, but I’m glad an American is returning home. She broke their laws and was given an extreme/unjust sentencing in many Americans eyes. I’d want the US to do the same thing for me. (Although they wouldn’t)

[BigKobeFan]

They have been trying to trade for Whelan for years but Russian government won't agree to terms.

Trump had a chance of doing something about Whelan. Let's not act like only Biden failed trading for Whelan. Trump had over 2yrs to trade for Whelan. Clearly something out of his control held it up.

Damn even always wrong blade went against stupid legend

[baudkarma]

My feeling is that the Russians know that freeing Whelan would be a major boost to the sitting Presidents ratings. I imagine Trump was working furiously behind the scenes in 2020 to score a diplomatic coup and have him freed in time for a few rally appearances before the election. It might have been enough to swing the vote his way. Biden will be doing the same in the weeks leading up to the 2024 vote. "Here's this brave American hero, former Marine, who I managed to rescue from a Russian Gulag. Listen to him say nice things about me, and ask yourself who you want your next president to be."

[bladefd]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIkzBcGUs4w

[Lakers Legend#32]

Trump has nothing to do with this conversation.

Hey dipsh!t, Trump had two years to bring Paul Whelan and he didn't do sh!t, and you didn't say shit, so sh!t, so f#ck straight off with your performance- nonsense bullsh!t.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Trump freed 5,000 Taliban terrorists.

He wanted to invite the leader to the White House but decided against it when he got flipped too much sh!t by the world.

Feels like a good time to remind the MAGAS of this.

[BigKobeFan]

Hey dipsh!t, Trump had two years to bring Paul Whelan and he didn't do sh!t, and you didn't say shit, so sh!t, so f#ck straight off with your performance- nonsense bullsh!t.

1. What makes you believe trump didnt do anything? 2. Even if he didnt, trading a useless american hating queer for a merchant of death is a killer deal you do not pass up. 3. To putin, this trade is inconsequential

[Lakers Legend#32]

We all know Republicans don't give a f#ck about Paul Whelan.

If they did, it would not have taken the release of an African American lesbian star to make them suddenly start saying his name.

[RRR3]

Based Biden.

[SouBeachTalents]

Once again, I am reminded that for a large segment of the population of the USA, there is simply nothing Biden can do that they approve of. Every single thing he does is wrong, and probably criminal and treasonous as well. Whelan was a Russian prisoner for two years while DJT was still president. Why didn't Trump get him out of Soviet hands while he was still in office?
While definitely true, this sadly applies to politics in general. When one party is in the White House, the opposition will literally never approve or give credit for anything they do, while always assuming the worst.

[Jasper]

Great deal. May as well trade brady for some teams equipment manager

trumptard

[Patrick Chewing]

1. What makes you believe trump didnt do anything? 2. Even if he didnt, trading a useless american hating queer for a merchant of death is a killer deal you do not pass up. 3. To putin, this trade is inconsequential

Ignore that clown.

[bladefd]

Trump freed 5,000 Taliban terrorists.

He wanted to invite the leader to the White House but decided against it when he got flipped too much sh!t by the world.

Feels like a good time to remind the MAGAS of this.

Good point. Something Republicans won't talk about or mention or care to comment on. They are just in bds mode right now, raging at anything Biden does & responding with whataboulism temper tantrums.

[Lakers Legend#32]

48 hours ago the Trumpists had never heard of Whelan.

Then they got their talking points.

[Patrick Chewing]

48 hours ago the Trumpists had never heard of Whelan.

Then they got their talking points.

48 hours later and you've still never seen a WNBA game. Or maybe you have. Scratch that. Nevermind, you definitely come across as someone who watches the WNBA religiously and has posters of Sue Bird on they/their/them wall.

[BigKobeFan]

48 hours later and you've still never seen a WNBA game. Or maybe you have. Scratch that. Nevermind, you definitely come across as someone who watches the WNBA religiously and has posters of Sue Bird on they/their/them wall.:lol

[Lakers Legend#32]

From David Whelan, brother of Paul Whelan:

"Trump appears to mention my brother Paul Whelan's wrongful detention more in the last 24 hours than he did in the two years of his presidency in which Paul was held hostage by Russia (zero).

I don't suggest he cares now more than he did then (zero).

[Jasper]

From David Whelan, brother of Paul Whelan:

"Trump appears to mention my brother Paul Whelan's wrongful detention more in the last 24 hours than he did in the two years of his presidency in which Paul was held hostage by Russia (zero).

I don't suggest he cares now more than he did then (zero).

10 4

[Jasper]

It's not fair because Brittany Griner likes girls and that makes me really uncomfortable.

her trade partner likes to rape girls : works for you ??

[SATAN]

I hate females.

We know.

[SATAN]

From David Whelan, brother of Paul Whelan:

"Trump appears to mention my brother Paul Whelan's wrongful detention more in the last 24 hours than he did in the two years of his presidency in which Paul was held hostage by Russia (zero).

I don't suggest he cares now more than he did then (zero).

Trump is such a piece of shit. Evil personified. :oldlol:

[bladefd]

From David Whelan, brother of Paul Whelan:

"Trump appears to mention my brother Paul Whelan's wrongful detention more in the last 24 hours than he did in the two years of his presidency in which Paul was held hostage by Russia (zero).

I don't suggest he cares now more than he did then (zero).

Damn. Republican talking point destroyed in just 2 sentences.

[Lakers Legend#32]

The same people who are saying Griner is anti-American are the same ones who cheered on an antigovernment insurgency by Trump's Goon Squad.

[Lakers Legend#32]

We know.

That's what I don't get.

How Poopsie can be so hard up but also a sexist at the same time.

[TheMan]

48 hours later and you've still never seen a WNBA game. Or maybe you have. Scratch that. Nevermind, you definitely come across as someone who watches the WNBA religiously and has posters of Sue Bird on they/their/them wall.

Diana Taurasi


https://youtu.be/3FGI7R0u3TQ

[Axe]

48 hours later and you've still never seen a WNBA game. Or maybe you have. Scratch that. Nevermind, you definitely come across as someone who watches the WNBA religiously and has posters of Sue Bird on they/their/them wall.
Boiling.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Former National Security Advisor John Bolton revealed in a CBS interview that Trump turned down a chance to secure Paul Whelan's release two years ago.

Despite Trump's now fake outrage over the Biden Administration's deal.

Has a Republican talking point ever died this fast?

[baudkarma]

Bolton says the deal was Whelan for the MToD, and Trump turned it down. If I was a Trump supporter, I'd argue that he felt that the price was too high. And then look, Biden made the same deal, but instead of Whelan he brings home a WNBA player.

But Bolton is the only one saying this deal was ever on the table, so who knows for sure?

[Patrick Chewing]

There are other American prisoners in Russia including Marc Fogel who was arrested for virtually the same thing and was arrested before Griner in 2021. The problem is that it is clear as day that Griner was given priority by the United States. She skipped the line. A lot of you Liberal shit stains can deny it all you want, but Griner got priority because of her race. White Americans are hated by White and Black Liberals alike. It's no secret, and the lot of you are stupid if you don't see this.

[BigKobeFan]

Hey dipsh!t, Trump had two years to bring Paul Whelan and he didn't do sh!t, and you didn't say shit, so sh!t, so f#ck straight off with your performance- nonsense bullsh!t.

Dumb like shit as usual. Are you kabar?

[SaltyMeatballs]

There are other American prisoners in Russia including Marc Fogel who was arrested for virtually the same thing and was arrested before Griner in 2021. The problem is that it is clear as day that Griner was given priority by the United States. She skipped the line. A lot of you Liberal shit stains can deny it all you want, but Griner got priority because of her race. White Americans are hated by White and Black Liberals alike. It's no secret, and the lot of you are stupid if you don't see this.

She got priority because she was more well known and had more a lot more coverage. Part of that was also because she is LGBTQ. Don't think it'd be any different if she was white

[SATAN]

Does anybody actually know the details? Wondering if Putin refused the others and gave the cannabis using black lesbian priority. Easy way to further drive the alt right incels insane and cause further division...

[Nanners]

Gotta love how Biden always claims to be anti-gun, and yet he set one of the most prolific arms dealers on the planet free in exchange for a fvcking useless WNBA player :oldlol:

[Nanners]

She's much less important. That's why the deal was possible. Russia doesn't give a rats about her or her vape cartridges. She was arrested for leverage and publicity. Once she started to slip off the public radar and Putin got the deal he wanted, the swap was made.

Whelan was found guilty of espionage. Russia cares a whole lot more about him then they do about some WNBA player. Biden wasn't able to negotiate his release probably for the same reason Trump wasn't able to back when he was POTUS. Either the USSR will not consider releasing him under any circumstances, or the deal they want in exchange is ridiculously one-sided.

Viktor Bout aka the "Merchant of Death" was found guilty of conspiring to sell weapons to a designated terrorist group and conspiring to kill americans... and Biden traded him for a WNBA player who was found guilty of smoking weed. If you really think this is a good or fair trade from the US perspective, you are probably dumb enough to get a job in the Biden admin.

[rawimpact]

Gotta love how Biden always claims to be anti-gun, and yet he set one of the most prolific arms dealers on the planet free in exchange for a fvcking useless WNBA player :oldlol:

C'mon no need to downplay her. She is one of America's greatest athletes. She represents not just our nation but forward thinking... look how far a gay african american has come. She not only built herself, she went to russia to get the sickle and hammer and shattered the American glass ceiling. She IS the american dream.

[Patrick Chewing]

Brittney Griner dunks in first workout since release from Russian prison (https://sports.yahoo.com/brittney-griner-dunks-in-first-workout-since-release-from-russian-prison-basketball-future-still-unknown-040328372.html)

And just like that, all is right in the world and the rest of the country can forget about those White guys that are still detained in Russia. Britney Griner is back to dunking! Woohoo!

[bladefd]

Brittney Griner dunks in first workout since release from Russian prison (https://sports.yahoo.com/brittney-griner-dunks-in-first-workout-since-release-from-russian-prison-basketball-future-still-unknown-040328372.html)

And just like that, all is right in the world and the rest of the country can forget about those White guys that are still detained in Russia. Britney Griner is back to dunking! Woohoo!

You didn't even know anything at all whatsoever about any white Americans in Russia and didn't say a word until now. Where have you been all these years??

[Patrick Chewing]

You didn't even know anything at all whatsoever about any white Americans in Russia and didn't say a word until now. Where have you been all these years??

What is even your point with this reply? You shouldn't be even disagreeing with me. You've said it on here before that you believe in fairness, and here is a story about fairness or the lack thereof. You're just going against me cause I'm a Conservative and you're a Liberal. If you do not believe that Griner was released due to favoritism, then you're just lying to yourself.

[bladefd]

What is even your point with this reply? You shouldn't be even disagreeing with me. You've said it on here before that you believe in fairness, and here is a story about fairness or the lack thereof. You're just going against me cause I'm a Conservative and you're a Liberal. If you do not believe that Griner was released due to favoritism, then you're just lying to yourself.

If you were so gung-ho about the release of those white Americans, why didn't you mention them until last week??

[Patrick Chewing]

If you were so gung-ho about the release of those white Americans, why didn't you mention them until last week??

Why do I have to mention them? That has nothing to do with what transpired. Just cause Conservatives don't mention them on a daily basis doesn't mean that you have a "gotcha" moment against us. This is about fairness, and you're looking at this completely through partisan eyes. Is Brittney Griner being back home good? Yes. Not one Conservative has said otherwise. But Liberals are addicted to Black Power and have Black on the brain 24/7 that they get lost in the facts that there are other people who have been imprisoned longer in Russia. And you should be asking yourselves as to why is it that Griner was released first and why is it that the United States has not made it a priority to get those who have been there longer released first instead. That is what Conservatives do. We look at the big picture. So we ask the question as to what could possibly be the reason that Griner was released first and not these other prisoners instead. And the answer is quite obvious to us.

[bladefd]

Why do I have to mention them? That has nothing to do with what transpired. Just cause Conservatives don't mention them on a daily basis doesn't mean that you have a "gotcha" moment against us. This is about fairness, and you're looking at this completely through partisan eyes. Is Brittney Griner being back home good? Yes. Not one Conservative has said otherwise. But Liberals are addicted to Black Power and have Black on the brain 24/7 that they get lost in the facts that there are other people who have been imprisoned longer in Russia. And you should be asking yourselves as to why is it that Griner was released first and why is it that the United States has not made it a priority to get those who have been there longer released first instead. That is what Conservatives do. We look at the big picture. So we ask the question as to what could possibly be the reason that Griner was released first and not these other prisoners instead. And the answer is quite obvious to us.

Daily basis? You didn't mention them even once since trading for her was in discussion. Why wait until after the trade?

Conservatives look at the big picture? Trump was in power for 4yrs. Why wasn't getting the Americans out a priority then?? He had majority in senate to back him. Why weren't you crying then about these Americans then? Were they chopped liver back then??

[Patrick Chewing]

Daily basis? You didn't mention them even once since trading for her was in discussion. Why wait until after the trade?

I ask again, what does that have to do with anything??

[bladefd]

Conservatives look at the big picture? Trump was in power for 4yrs. Why wasn't getting the Americans out a priority then?? He had majority in senate to back him. Why weren't you crying then about these Americans then? Were they chopped liver back then??

[Patrick Chewing]

Conservatives look at the big picture? Trump was in power for 4yrs. Why wasn't getting the Americans out a priority then?? He had majority in senate to back him. Why weren't you crying then about these Americans then? Were they chopped liver back then??

Do you realize you cannot have a rational discussion with anyone without making it political and partisan? You're either being disingenuous as usual or you have a severe problem with interacting with other humans out there.

Since the beginning, the issue has always been the obvious favoritism that Griner has received over those that have been there longer. And the reasoning behind it. Has nothing to do with the previous President or whether or not Conservatives knew there were hostages there to begin with.

You're just hooked on making this a partisan discussion that only favors your side.

[bladefd]

Do you realize you cannot have a rational discussion with anyone without making it political and partisan? You're either being disingenuous as usual or you have a severe problem with interacting with other humans out there.

Since the beginning, the issue has always been the obvious favoritism that Griner has received over those that have been there longer. And the reasoning behind it. Has nothing to do with the previous President or whether or not Conservatives knew there were hostages there to begin with.

You're just hooked on making this a partisan discussion that only favors your side.

Why are you making it partisan now that Griner got exchanged? Trump released over 5,000 Taliban prisoners as part of prisoner exchange. Were you crying back then and raging at Trump for that? The answer is no. I'm not the one ranting about Griner getting traded for and not the other prisoners. You are. I am simply asking you why you are being a partisan hypocritical hack now.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Give it a week or two max.

Poopsie will forget all about these white hostages, same as he didn't give a damn about them prior to Griner's release.

[Patrick Chewing]

Why are you making it partisan now that Griner got exchanged? Trump released over 5,000 Taliban prisoners as part of prisoner exchange. Were you crying back then and raging at Trump for that? The answer is no. I'm not the one ranting about Griner getting traded for and not the other prisoners. You are. I am simply asking you why you are being a partisan hypocritical hack now.

Oh dear lord, you are officially the dumbest poster on this site. You are the one bringing up a Republican President in Trump, thus making the conversation about partisan politics, rather than about fairness. Rather than about asking an honest question seeing as how it is clear as day that Griner being released ahead of all those other prisoners was about preference due to her celebrity status, her race, her sexuality, etc.

Every conversation with you centers around your comparison of your guy Biden versus our guy Trump. You have an addiction to Trump.

[BigKobeFan]

Oh dear lord, you are officially the dumbest poster on this site. You are the one bringing up a Republican President in Trump, thus making the conversation about partisan politics, rather than about fairness. Rather than about asking an honest question seeing as how it is clear as day that Griner being released ahead of all those other prisoners was about preference due to her celebrity status, her race, her sexuality, etc.

Every conversation with you centers around your comparison of your guy Biden versus our guy Trump. You have an addiction to Trump.

I think kabar is still dumber than him

[KNOW1EDGE]

If the USA intervened to free someone detained in Russia for possession of Marijuana why doesn’t the USA intervene with the USA and free all the detained people in the USA for possession of marijuana?

[bladefd]

Oh dear lord, you are officially the dumbest poster on this site. You are the one bringing up a Republican President in Trump, thus making the conversation about partisan politics, rather than about fairness. Rather than about asking an honest question seeing as how it is clear as day that Griner being released ahead of all those other prisoners was about preference due to her celebrity status, her race, her sexuality, etc.

Every conversation with you centers around your comparison of your guy Biden versus our guy Trump. You have an addiction to Trump.

Ofc it was about her celebrity status and nothing else. I don't deny it. When you are rich and well-known, you get benefits that others don't. I don't like that or agree with it but it's a fact.

I have to bring up Trump because he is relevant and put himself into this conversation when he brought up Whelan. You brought up Whelan too. A guy neither of you mentioned even once before last week. No conservatives mentioned Whelan once before last week. It absolutely matters.

[bladefd]

If the USA intervened to free someone detained in Russia for possession of Marijuana why doesn’t the USA intervene with the USA and free all the detained people in the USA for possession of marijuana?

Biden administration did right before the election. Although it was a very small number of people to begin with.

[Patrick Chewing]

Ofc it was about her celebrity status and nothing else. I don't deny it. When you are rich and well-known, you get benefits that others don't. I don't like that or agree with it but it's a fact.

I have to bring up Trump because he is relevant and put himself into this conversation when he brought up Whelan. You brought up Whelan too. A guy neither of you mentioned even once before last week. No conservatives mentioned Whelan once before last week. It absolutely matters.

LOL no you don't have to bring up Trump. He has nothing to do with this story. And neither does the fact that we didn't bring up Whelan before. The story is was it fair to deal for a celebrity first over an American who has been imprisoned longer. That's it. And you yourself acknowledge that they indeed wanted Griner instead of the others due to her celebrity. So you acknowledge this wasn't a fair trade and you acknowledge that Griner had preferential treatment.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Poopsie will quickly forget Whelan once he is no longer a talking point as quickly as he has forgotten Herschel.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Everyone puke the next time Poopsie mentions "fairness."

Negotiating for prisoners is not about "fairness" it's about getting what you can.

If Russia was not giving up Whelan, then there is no reason to not get Griner's release if it's available.

You certainly don't pass up the opportunity to get to get her out because there are other's imprisoned.

Unless of course, you are like Poopsie and have a rabid hatred for black lesbians.

[bladefd]

LOL no you don't have to bring up Trump. He has nothing to do with this story. And neither does the fact that we didn't bring up Whelan before. The story is was it fair to deal for a celebrity first over an American who has been imprisoned longer. That's it. And you yourself acknowledge that they indeed wanted Griner instead of the others due to her celebrity. So you acknowledge this wasn't a fair trade and you acknowledge that Griner had preferential treatment.

Russia wasn't willing to deal Whelan. What you want to do? Go over to Russia and beg Putin on your knees?

[Lakers Legend#32]

Russia wasn't willing to deal Whelan. What you want to do? Go over to Russia and beg Putin on your knees?

Poopsie would do this to keep the black lesbian in a Russian penal colony.