when did LeBron surpassed Kobe in the all time lists??

[Lebron23]

I think when LeBron beat the Spurs in the 2013 NBA Finals. It was the season he surpassed Kobe. When he beat a 73 wins team in 2016. It was no longer a close comparison.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDDzmksK4fw&t=168s

[BallsOut]

He hasn’t. He hasn’t even surpassed Duncan yet, let alone Bryant.

Also, OP is a midget virgin that can’t speak English and only dreams of laying with women.

[FultzNationRISE]

It’s a good question, Louie.

If we go by eye test, it probably happened as early as 2007. Thats when Lebron came into his prime, and his prime was simply more impactful than Kobe’s, and was longer sustained.

As far as when he passed him on peoples’ esoteric “resumé” lists… I dont know. Youll have to ask the people who rely on such things to evaluate players. Of course the idea of that approach is to take all the nuance and context out of the analysis process, and transform the abstract into the concrete. Yet people who do this still come up with completely arbitrary and meaningless ways to weight this ring vs that ring or this MVP vs that MVP and so on.

That’s okay. We can let people do things whatever way makes them comfortable. Not everyone will take the same kind of approach we do. And at the end of the day Louie, it doesnt change what you and I know in our hearts to be true about who the GOAT is ;)

[Lebron23]

He hasn’t. He hasn’t even surpassed Duncan yet, let alone Bryant.

Also, OP is a midget virgin that can’t speak English and only dreams of laying with women.

Are you retarded bro?? STFU Kobe24 aka Alphawolf. LeBron is rank higher than Kobe. Deal with it.

:pimp::pimp::pimp:

Duncan is rank higher than Kobe

[Yeezy]

at what point did 0 pass 5... or 4... or even 2 depending on how much you legitimize kobes rings.


lebrons yet to win one without bubbles, lockouts, collusions, bailouts and PEDs


so to answer OPs question












































https://youtu.be/wsNHeSoABYQ

[1987_Lakers]

2016 is when I saw everyone start ranking him ahead of Kobe.

[Yeezy]

2016 is when I saw everyone start ranking him ahead of Kobe.

kyrie put him over the top I guess

kyrie doubled lebrons output when the games weren't blow outs.

in the last 4 minutes of game 7 when everything was on the line. lebron disappeared. missing shot after shot after shot... then kyrie hit the biggest walk off championship winning shot in nba history.




cavs first victory:

0-2 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 12 ft
0-4 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft
0-6 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft
4-13 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot at rim
4-19 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot at rim
6-21 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 20 ft
8-23 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 18 ft
10-25+2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 13 ft
10-30+3 K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 24 ft
13-33+3 K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 27 ft

game over... cavs never looked back


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cavs 2nd victory tied 61-61 at half time

K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft +2 63-61
L. James makes 3-pt shot from 26 ft +3 67-64
K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 9 ft +2 69-66
L. James makes 2-pt shot at rim +2 71-66
K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 26 ft +3 74-66
L. James makes 2-pt shot from 2 ft +2 77-71
K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 28 ft (assist by L. James) +3 80-73
L. James makes 3-pt shot from 25 ft +3 89-80
K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 9 ft +2 95-87
L. James makes 2-pt shot from 16 ft +2 97-88
K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 8 ft +2 101-92
K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 8 ft +2 104-96
K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 14 ft +2 106-96
K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 26 ft +3 109-96


game over.. cavs never looked back



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cavs 3rd victory

0-4 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 13 ft
0-6 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot at rim
0-8 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot from 3 ft
2-11 +3 K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 28 ft
2-13 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot at rim
7-20 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 18 ft
9-26 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft
13-34 +3 K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 27 ft
18-37 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 17 ft
26-43 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot at rim


game over ... cavs never looked back


all in all...

kyrie scored 51 points in key moments
lebron scored 26 points in key moments


:lol

[LeGoat4Life]

Not yet and never will

Lebron needs to achieve a full season 2peat to even begin that discussion

Duncan, kobe, shaq all sits quite comfortably ahead of Lebron

[Lebron23]

2016 is when I saw everyone start ranking him ahead of Kobe.

This Lebron also averaged more points than Kobe in the regular season, playoffs and finals

[Yeezy]

Not yet and never will

Lebron needs to achieve a full season 2peat to even begin that discussion

Duncan, kobe, shaq all sits quite comfortably ahead of Lebron

forget 2 peat. can he even win 1 ring without ring chasing in a lockout bubble and not have a teammate hit a bail out legacy saving 3

:lol

[itsGameTime]

1. Jordan
2. Russell
3. Bird
4. Magic
5. Kobe
6. Duncan
7. Shaq
8. Hakeem
9. Durant
10. Curry

Maybe LeBron might get into top 10 with another 1-2 titles but Curry and Durant are younger and still competing.

[Lebron23]

1. Jordan
2. Russell
3. Bird
4. Magic
5. Kobe
6. Duncan
7. Shaq
8. Hakeem
9. Durant
10. Curry

Maybe LeBron might get into top 10 with another 1-2 titles but Curry and Durant are younger and still competing.

How many accounts do you have??

[tontoz]

Dam i was hoping to get in b4 Kenny's alt. :(

[John8204]

2014-2015 when he made his fifth straight trip to the finals with a different team, he had over 20K at 30 so we knew he was likely going to pass Kobe in points. Kobe also put together a superteam with Howard/Nash/MWP/Gasol and they didn't win. It was at that point we kind had the set of Lebron > Kobe > Duncan and the conversation turned not to Lebron vs Kobe but Lebron vs Durant.

[Full Court]

Duncan is ranked higher than both Kobe and Lebron.

[Full Court]

kyrie put him over the top I guess

kyrie doubled lebrons output when the games weren't blow outs.

in the last 4 minutes of game 7 when everything was on the line. lebron disappeared. missing shot after shot after shot... then kyrie hit the biggest walk off championship winning shot in nba history.




cavs first victory:

0-2 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 12 ft
0-4 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft
0-6 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft
4-13 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot at rim
4-19 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot at rim
6-21 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 20 ft
8-23 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 18 ft
10-25+2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 13 ft
10-30+3 K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 24 ft
13-33+3 K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 27 ft

game over... cavs never looked back


----------------------------



cavs 2nd victory tied 61-61 at half time

K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft +2 63-61
L. James makes 3-pt shot from 26 ft +3 67-64
K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 9 ft +2 69-66
L. James makes 2-pt shot at rim +2 71-66
K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 26 ft +3 74-66
L. James makes 2-pt shot from 2 ft +2 77-71
K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 28 ft (assist by L. James) +3 80-73
L. James makes 3-pt shot from 25 ft +3 89-80
K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 9 ft +2 95-87
L. James makes 2-pt shot from 16 ft +2 97-88
K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 8 ft +2 101-92
K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 8 ft +2 104-96
K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 14 ft +2 106-96
K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 26 ft +3 109-96


game over.. cavs never looked back



-----------------------



cavs 3rd victory

0-4 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 13 ft
0-6 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot at rim
0-8 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot from 3 ft
2-11 +3 K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 28 ft
2-13 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot at rim
7-20 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 18 ft
9-26 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft
13-34 +3 K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 27 ft
18-37 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 17 ft
26-43 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot at rim


game over ... cavs never looked back


all in all...

kyrie scored 51 points in key moments
lebron scored 26 points in key moments


:lol

The name "LeShrivel" didn't come out of thin air. :confusedshrug:

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Not yet and never will

Lebron needs to achieve a full season 2peat to even begin that discussion

Duncan, kobe, shaq all sits quite comfortably ahead of Lebron

Absolutely 100% agree. Wherever anyone has Kobe on their all-time lists, go down 1-2 spots and that's where LeGED belongs.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

1. Jordan
2. Russell
3. Bird
4. Magic
5. Kobe
6. Duncan
7. Shaq
8. Hakeem
9. Durant
10. Curry

Maybe LeBron might get into top 10 with another 1-2 titles but Curry and Durant are younger and still competing.

Any top 10 list that doesn't have Lew Alcindor or Wilt Chamberlain is not a valid top 10 list.

[bison]

He hasn't surpassed Kobe and never will. unfortunately for lebron, that window closed years ago. Only stans have lebron above kobe, and they are motivated by their hatred and jealousy of kobe than they are their love for lebron.

[dreamshake]

This thread is exposing LeBron’s legacy. Quick delete it mods!

To answer the OP, LeBron isn’t even top 10. He’s always played with at least three superstar players on his team. Never proved he could win with just two superstars only like all the top 10 players have done timelessly.

[Yeezy]

1. Jordan
2. Russell
3. Bird
4. Magic
5. Kobe
6. Duncan
7. Shaq
8. Hakeem
9. Durant
10. Curry

Maybe LeBron might get into top 10 with another 1-2 titles but Curry and Durant are younger and still competing.

I got lebron in my top 10 but I can't put him ahead of guys with 5+ rings and a winning finals record


#1 Jordan
#2 Kareem
#3 Russell
#4 Kobe
#5 Duncan
#6 Magic
#7 Lebron
#8 Shaq
#9 Bird
#10 Wilt/Hakeem

[kawhileonard2]

He hasn’t. He hasn’t even surpassed Duncan yet, let alone Bryant.

Also, OP is a midget virgin that can’t speak English and only dreams of laying with women.

Exactly this! He couldn't even beat Dwight Howard with HCA.

[Full Court]

He hasn't surpassed Kobe and never will. unfortunately for lebron, that window closed years ago. Only stans have lebron above kobe, and they are motivated by their hatred and jealousy of kobe than they are their love for lebron.

I'm hardly a Bronie stan, but I have him slightly ahead of Kobe.

[TheCorporation]

kyrie put him over the top I guess

kyrie doubled lebrons output when the games weren't blow outs.

in the last 4 minutes of game 7 when everything was on the line. lebron disappeared. missing shot after shot after shot... then kyrie hit the biggest walk off championship winning shot in nba history.




cavs first victory:

0-2 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 12 ft
0-4 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft
0-6 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft
4-13 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot at rim
4-19 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot at rim
6-21 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 20 ft
8-23 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 18 ft
10-25+2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 13 ft
10-30+3 K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 24 ft
13-33+3 K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 27 ft

game over... cavs never looked back


----------------------------



cavs 2nd victory tied 61-61 at half time

K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft +2 63-61
L. James makes 3-pt shot from 26 ft +3 67-64
K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 9 ft +2 69-66
L. James makes 2-pt shot at rim +2 71-66
K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 26 ft +3 74-66
L. James makes 2-pt shot from 2 ft +2 77-71
K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 28 ft (assist by L. James) +3 80-73
L. James makes 3-pt shot from 25 ft +3 89-80
K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 9 ft +2 95-87
L. James makes 2-pt shot from 16 ft +2 97-88
K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 8 ft +2 101-92
K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 8 ft +2 104-96
K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 14 ft +2 106-96
K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 26 ft +3 109-96


game over.. cavs never looked back



-----------------------



cavs 3rd victory

0-4 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 13 ft
0-6 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot at rim
0-8 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot from 3 ft
2-11 +3 K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 28 ft
2-13 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot at rim
7-20 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 18 ft
9-26 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft
13-34 +3 K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 27 ft
18-37 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 17 ft
26-43 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot at rim


game over ... cavs never looked back


all in all...

kyrie scored 51 points in key moments
lebron scored 26 points in key moments


:lol

Jesus Kenny.

SEEK HELP

[LeGoat4Life]

1. Jordan
2. Russell
3. Bird
4. Magic
5. Kobe
6. Duncan
7. Shaq
8. Hakeem
9. Durant
10. Curry

Maybe LeBron might get into top 10 with another 1-2 titles but Curry and Durant are younger and still competing.

Good list but I think you missed Kareem

[LeGoat4Life]

Absolutely 100% agree. Wherever anyone has Kobe on their all-time lists, go down 1-2 spots and that's where LeGED belongs.

I personally disagree with that

I have Kobe ranked 6-8 ( along with Duncan and Shaq)

Lebron I have around 11-13th (I got curry ahead of Lebron, since Curry has the been the best player since Kobe)

[kawhileonard2]

I personally disagree with that

I have Kobe ranked 6-8 ( along with Duncan and Shaq)

Lebron I have around 11-13th (I got curry ahead of Lebron, since Curry has the been the best player since Kobe)

That's fair