View Full Version : where should lebron fans rank kobe all time considering they use his formula vs MJ
Yeezy
12-17-2022, 01:06 PM
why lebron fans think hes the goat over jordan
- lEbRoN HaS mOrE 1St TeAm AlL NbA's ( so did kobe )
- lEbRoN HaS mOrE tOtAl pOiNts ( so did kobe )
- lEbRoN HaS mOrE gReAt sEaSoNs ( so did kobe )
- lEbRoN HaS mOrE fInAlS ApPeArAnCes ( so did kobe )
- lEbRoN HaS mOrE LoNgEvItY ( so did kobe )
- lEbRoN Is bEtTeR ThrEe PoInT ShOotEr ( so was kobe )
- lEbRoN HaS mOrE oVeRalL SkiLls ( so did kobe )
- lEbRoN HaS mOrE rEsPonSiBiLiTiEs ( so did kobe )
- lEbRoN PlAyS iN mOrE sKilLeD Era ( so did kobe )
- lEbRoN bEaT FiNaLs SuPeR TeAm ( so did kobe )
https://i.ibb.co/7KgXDsC/Screen-Shot-2022-12-17-at-11-56-20-AM.png
kObE 13th-14tH aLl tImE
Yeezy
12-17-2022, 01:10 PM
why is lebron ahead of kobe?
BeCaUsE MoRe lEaGuE mVp's aNd FiNaLs mVp's
wait... what was your reason for putting lebron over jordan again?
**** yOu
:lol
Yeezy
12-17-2022, 01:23 PM
https://media0.giphy.com/media/6uGhT1O4sxpi8/giphy.gif
MrFonzworth
12-17-2022, 01:35 PM
https://youtu.be/vB-G7pubXEA
Yeezy
12-17-2022, 01:48 PM
https://youtu.be/vB-G7pubXEA
https://youtu.be/Jnwx0awoZS4
expansionera
12-17-2022, 02:15 PM
Jordan played horrible competition, so did Kobe (Jack Sikma’s Pacers, the Pistons with no All NBA players). Jordan is better than Kobe because at least he beat who was in front of him most all of the time, Kobe also had the greatest help in all history and it shows in his meager FMVP count
Kobe also r*ped a woman and told the police Shaq frequented brothels breaking up his marriage and endangering a fellow black man with authorities who could arrest or physically harm Shaq and ruin his career. Kobe was as bad of a person as he was a shooter and most everyone is glad he died
John8204
12-17-2022, 02:26 PM
Kobe is the 2nd best SG of all-time Lebron is the best PF (or SF) depending on how you value Larry Bird.
So Kobe is in the 9-12 range depending on how you value Hakeem, West, Oscar, Moses, and Duncan
Kobe is one of the best players of his generation, Lebron is the best player of his generation.
Doesn't seem that complicated to me.
Phoenix
12-17-2022, 02:38 PM
All that effort when a simple image sums up the OP
https://gifs.cackhanded.net/raiders-of-the-lost-ark/melting.gif
Yeezy
12-17-2022, 03:22 PM
Jordan played horrible competition, so did Kobe
https://i.ibb.co/8NHytx7/Screen-Shot-2022-12-17-at-2-03-33-PM.png
Jordan is better than Kobe because at least he beat who was in front of him most all of the time
https://i.ibb.co/n866sDr/Screen-Shot-2022-12-17-at-2-09-46-PM.png
Kobe also had the greatest help in all history and it shows in his meager FMVP count
lebron fans pick as GOAT till lebron passes him in points:
https://i.ibb.co/v17XvgL/Screen-Shot-2022-12-17-at-2-12-52-PM.png
Kobe also r*ped a woman
https://i.ibb.co/4tyrkzs/Screen-Shot-2022-12-17-at-2-19-43-PM.png
and told the police Shaq frequented brothels breaking up his marriage and endangering a fellow black man
lebron sold out the entire united states to china and blm and set back the black community 50 years
Kobe was as bad of a person as he was a shooter and most everyone is glad he died
- hurt
:lol
Yeezy
12-17-2022, 03:24 PM
Kobe is the 2nd best SG of all-time Lebron is the best PF (or SF) depending on how you value Larry Bird.
So Kobe is in the 9-12 range depending on how you value Hakeem, West, Oscar, Moses, and Duncan
Kobe is one of the best players of his generation, Lebron is the best player of his generation.
Doesn't seem that complicated to me.
all time rankings dont go by all nba voting metrics
russell and kareem are top 3. both are centers
Full Court
12-17-2022, 03:36 PM
1. Jordan
10. Lebron
12. Kobe
kobe is top 10 for sure. I'll say 6 or 7.
lebron is 2nd all-time.
that's really not that big of a gap.
you can make a case for kobe for sure. :confusedshrug:
and you cant hate on lbj anymore kenny. that ship has sailed. the man is GOATed.
Lakers Legend#32
12-17-2022, 03:50 PM
Kobe between 10-15 greatest of all time.
Hey Yo
12-17-2022, 03:54 PM
LOL @ Kobe eliminating 24 fifty win teams.
Now start in 2005 when he became captain/1st option.
He has like 10 from 2008 on.
Dems the facts.
we dont count stats or accolades anymore kenny.
we go with the words of Steve Kerr aka the most qualified man on earth to comment - he says MJ and lbj are the two best players he's ever seen and he says they are a toss-up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MG8wjJNdf4&ab_channel=ESPN
Yeezy
12-17-2022, 03:59 PM
nobodies answering the question in the OP. just giving me their own personal rankings
I said "based on what lebron fans say puts him over Jordan. where should kobe rank based on that formula
if all these things make lebron the goat wouldn't kobe have to be right there at 2nd all time or at worst behind Kareem at third
:lol
nobodies answering the question in the OP. just giving me their own personal rankings
I said "based on what lebron fans say puts him over Jordan. where should kobe rank based on that formula
if all these things make lebron the goat wouldn't kobe have to be right there at 2nd all time or at worst behind Kareem at third
:lol
jordan has accolade advantages over kobe to a greater degree than he does over lebron though
lebron has kobe's longevity PLUS comes closer to mj's accolades - so it's not like there is any advantage for kobe...
the old hurr durr ringless argument jokes fall flat...
Yeezy
12-17-2022, 04:02 PM
LOL @ Kobe eliminating 24 fifty win teams.
Now start in 2005 when he became captain/1st option.
He has like 10 from 2008 on.
Dems the facts.
kobe was the leader in shot attempts for his teams since 2001 and was the leading scorer in basically every spurs series and half of the kings series
Yeezy
12-17-2022, 04:06 PM
jordan has accolade advantages over kobe to a greater degree than he does over lebron though
lebron has kobe's longevity PLUS comes closer to mj's accolades - so it's not like there is any advantage for kobe...
the old hurr durr ringless argument jokes fall flat...
I never said there was a formula for putting kobe over MJ unless it's a 1 on 1 in a vacuum
the formula for putting kobe over lebron is using context for all of lebrons fake accomplishments through ring chasing, colluding, bubbles, bail outs, lockouts and other self admitted cheating such as paying millions for a biochemist to create untraceable PEDs in a Miami laboratory
Spurs m8
12-17-2022, 04:16 PM
1. Jordan
10. Lebron
12. Kobe
:applause:
Hey Yo
12-17-2022, 04:21 PM
kobe was the leader in shot attempts for his teams since 2001 and was the leading scorer in basically every spurs series and half of the kings series
As 2nd option.
He didn't eliminate a 50 win team until his 4th year as captain/1st option.
Could have been different if he would have let the Nets draft him.
Yeezy
12-17-2022, 04:29 PM
:applause:
I'm interested now in how far you separate kobe and Duncan on your all time list
Yeezy
12-17-2022, 04:32 PM
As 2nd option.
He didn't eliminate a 50 win team until his 4th year as captain/1st option.
Could have been different if he would have let the Nets draft him.
it was 1a/1b from 2001 on and kobe was 1st option most of the year and half the playoffs admittedly by shaq in their 1 on 1 interview
"after we got one I knew I could coast and let you carry us. I was having fun partying cause I knew you could get us 40/50 every night."
nobody in their right mind will say kobe wasn't the first option during the first 3 rounds of the 01 playoffs. especially during the 2002/03 and 2003/04 season
I never said there was a formula for putting kobe over MJ unless it's a 1 on 1 in a vacuum
the formula for putting kobe over lebron is using context for all of lebrons fake accomplishments through ring chasing, colluding, bubbles, bail outs, lockouts and other self admitted cheating such as paying millions for a biochemist to create untraceable PEDs in a Miami laboratory
yeah. for sure.
I dont think any of those accolades have to do with the fact that he's a 6'9 250 pound force, the literal best transition player of all-time who also happens to have the highest basketball IQ in the league, alongside cp3, and that's according to his biggest hater in skip bayless.
happens to be the best highschool player of all-time and was ready to play in the league as a teenager - I'm sure he was already on steroids then. :pimp:
kawhileonard2
12-17-2022, 11:34 PM
Jordan played horrible competition, so did Kobe (Jack Sikma’s Pacers, the Pistons with no All NBA players). Jordan is better than Kobe because at least he beat who was in front of him most all of the time, Kobe also had the greatest help in all history and it shows in his meager FMVP count
Kobe also r*ped a woman and told the police Shaq frequented brothels breaking up his marriage and endangering a fellow black man with authorities who could arrest or physically harm Shaq and ruin his career. Kobe was as bad of a person as he was a shooter and most everyone is glad he died
Lebron lost to every good big he played. He lost to Duncan, Dwight, Dirk, KG and even with HCA while Jordan was beating the bigs he played and never lost with HCA to any of them. Hell Lebron even when favorite was losing to younger guys than him like Steph despite switching teams.
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