Tracy McGrady: I'm taking Jordan and Kobe over LeBron

[eliteballer]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/tracy-mcgrady-plays-difficult-start-bench-cut-game-that-includes-michael-jordan-lebron-james-and-kobe-bryant/ar-AA15qw0D?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a8528d9ec32f4c76a1f1817386bdcbdf

[Smook A.]

As much as I love Kobe, he has no argument for being over LeBron

[Yeezy]

As much as I love Kobe, he has no argument for being over LeBron

lebrons a fraud with lame accomplishments

there

[ShawkFactory]

Kobe and Tmac were great friends.

[Yeezy]

Kobe and Tmac were great friends.

kobe literally showed lebron how to be a man admittedly in 2008 and even made a movie about it lol

[Full Court]

Jordan over Lebron is a no brainer. Kobe over Lebron is a bit of a stretch....

[Yeezy]

Jordan over Lebron is a no brainer. Kobe over Lebron is a bit of a stretch....

you have lebron 15th and kobe 20th all time. go away grandpa

[3ba11]

Show me where Lebron had a carry-job against a top team - when did he beat a top 5 SRS team with poor scoring and efficiency from a sidekick??

Zero carry-jobs in 2 decades of playing?

When did he defeat maximum defensive attention (carry scoring load in Finals)?

So how can he compare to guys that had carry-jobs against good teams (carried bed-wetting sidekicks over top teams) and defeated maximum defensive attention (carried scoring load in Finals)?

Unfortuantely, ball-dominators can't develop teammates (impose spot-up roles) and can't carry the scoring load against the best teams (too ball-dominant at carry-job volume), so they can't win with secondary producers like Worthy, Porzingas, Brunson, Mo Williams, Ingram, Hughes, Jamison or Love.. Otoh, expert jumpshooters have sufficient brand of ball to develop teammates and carry the scoring load, so they can win with secondary producers like Wiggins, Pippen, Lowry, Pau or Jason Terry.

[Smook A.]

lebrons a fraud with lame accomplishments

there

How does he have lame accomplishments?

[3ba11]

How does he have lame accomplishments?


He couldn't win the East with homecourt, so he formed super-teams to make a bunch of Finals

He took the top 3 first options in the conference and put them on 1 team - then he won the conference a bunch and people actually gave him props for it

The man is a literal joke that can only get longevity records, turnover records, losing the most with all-star teammates or in the Finals

[Yeezy]

How does he have lame accomplishments?

because literally everything he ever did was manufactured except maybe the 2007 finals appearance. it was weak cause all he had to do was beat one team without their best defensive player but it came before all the rigging and manipulation at least

[ShawkFactory]

kobe literally showed lebron how to be a man admittedly in 2008 and even made a movie about it lol

Lol what does that have to do with what I said or tmacs opinion on Kobe?

[Yeezy]

Lol what does that have to do with what I said or tmacs opinion on Kobe?

since you don't dispute it. is it technically true that kobe is the father lebron never had

[Smook A.]

because literally everything he ever did was manufactured except maybe the 2007 finals appearance. it was weak cause all he had to do was beat one team without their best defensive player but it came before all the rigging and manipulation at least

You can’t be serious :lol

[3ba11]

You can’t be serious :lol


Did Lebron take the top 3 first options in the conference and put them on 1 team? (Lebron/Wade/Bosh)

And then win the conference a bunch and everyone remarkably gave him credit for it?

That's manufacturing

[Yeezy]

You can’t be serious :lol

name one thing other than the 2007 finals that lebron did before colluding and getting kobe to be his daddy in the 2008 Olympics ( admittedly on film )

[kawhileonard2]

He is right.

[ImKobe]

As much as I love Kobe, he has no argument for being over LeBron

More rings, positive Finals win ratio and being better when their primes crossed in the late 2000s is a good enough argument. Kobe played in the toughest Conference, Bran played in the WOAT one. KB stayed on one team and wasted years of his prime on squads that had no chance of contending, Bran ran as soon as things got tough and he couldn't get over the hump. KB played in the toughest defensive era (early 2000s), Bran has the benefit of playing in the 2010s where the defenses got worse with each season. KB dominated his peers in the Playoffs, Bran has a losing record against 90% of them in the POs.

[Lebron23]

nobody takes Tmac opinions seriously. guy never won a playoffs series during his prime.

[Axe]

More rings, positive Finals win ratio and being better when their primes crossed in the late 2000s is a good enough argument. Kobe played in the toughest Conference, Bran played in the WOAT one. KB stayed on one team and wasted years of his prime on squads that had no chance of contending, Bran ran as soon as things got tough and he couldn't get over the hump. KB played in the toughest defensive era (early 2000s), Bran has the benefit of playing in the 2010s where the defenses got worse with each season. KB dominated his peers in the Playoffs, Bran has a losing record against 90% of them in the POs.
Mamba wouldn't get close to having five rings without shaq.

[Yeezy]

nobody takes Tmac opinions seriously. guy never won a playoffs series during his prime.

how many have you won


0


ok so why should we take you seriously

[Yeezy]

Mamba wouldn't get close to having five rings without shaq.

i dunno. possibly considering he would have played out east had he stayed in charlotte


he would've made the finals with a basic sidekick in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2007, 2009


with a great sidekick he makes it in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010

[StrongLurk]

More rings, positive Finals win ratio and being better when their primes crossed in the late 2000s is a good enough argument. Kobe played in the toughest Conference, Bran played in the WOAT one. KB stayed on one team and wasted years of his prime on squads that had no chance of contending, Bran ran as soon as things got tough and he couldn't get over the hump. KB played in the toughest defensive era (early 2000s), Bran has the benefit of playing in the 2010s where the defenses got worse with each season. KB dominated his peers in the Playoffs, Bran has a losing record against 90% of them in the POs.

:lol

This is such a biased, inaccurate take. Not a good argument at all.

[eliteballer]

Keep crying, LeRoid fans.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Did Lebron take the top 3 first options in the conference and put them on 1 team? (Lebron/Wade/Bosh)

And then win the conference a bunch and everyone remarkably gave him credit for it?

That's manufacturing

Same thing in Cleveland too: Kyrie (Best Cav) Kevin Love (Best player from Minnesota).

In fact same thing happening now in LA: (AD (Best Pelican) + Westbrook (Best Wizard before he came over).

Stacks the deck completely and fails way more than he wins. What a joke.

[Axe]

i dunno. possibly considering he would have played out east had he stayed in charlotte


he would've made the finals with a basic sidekick in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2007, 2009


with a great sidekick he makes it in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010
Eh. Before phil came he never won a game in the conference finals with shaq. Now depending on who his help would have been in charlotte he may have made the finals in a weak eastern conference a few times bt but he probably wins only one or two rings at best.