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Kblaze8855
12-20-2022, 02:49 PM
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post
12-20-2022, 02:58 PM
doubtful

SouBeachTalents
12-20-2022, 03:00 PM
I'm definitely picking Jordan/Bird/Hakeem in that one.

Norcaliblunt
12-20-2022, 03:00 PM
Shaqs team has too many Hollywood mofos who believe their own hype because people were sucking them off since they were six. Jordan, Hakeem, and Bird really had to fight for their positions and legacies.

3ba11
12-20-2022, 03:01 PM
Bird would matchup with Lebron and without the transition game or head of stream, it's gotta be Bird all day long and twice on Sunday.

The Shaq/Hakeem matchup is concerning because 3-on-3 favors post players the most and overpowering players... I know this from being 6'7" and dominating many bums in 3-on-3 tournaments... However, I can remember an instance where we were a big favorite but our bruising style and massive size advantage got 2014 Spurs-style molly-whopped by a sweet-shooting team that had apparently been together forever

So I'm going with the more instinctive, pure basketball players and shooters - Hakeem, MJ, Bird

Xiao Yao You
12-20-2022, 03:01 PM
I'm definitely picking Jordan/Bird/Hakeem in that one.

easily

FultzNationRISE
12-20-2022, 03:03 PM
I think Shaq’s team would lose, but Lebron himself would still win.

Norcaliblunt
12-20-2022, 03:05 PM
Though a team with Shaq and Steph beats anybody. Ultimate insider out / makes plays without the ball game.

Norcaliblunt
12-20-2022, 03:09 PM
Shaq, Steph, and Bird would be the unbeatable team.

Soundwave
12-20-2022, 03:12 PM
Not only would they not sweep, I think they'd flat out lose.

Jordan, Bird, Hakeem are just higher basketball I.Q. than Shaq + Kobe + LeBron combined and Bird is the best shooter of the six players. Hakeem and Jordan are the two best defensive players too.

Norcaliblunt
12-20-2022, 03:15 PM
Defense is definitely overrated at this level and in this scenario. The offensive players with the most dunks and 3’s are winning.

Full Court
12-20-2022, 03:20 PM
At this point, Shaq is just a highly paid troll. :lol

Wally450
12-20-2022, 03:21 PM
How do you play 3v3 in a 7 game series?

Oh whoops, seven gane seriea

Yeezy
12-20-2022, 03:24 PM
jordan/bird/hakeem would win regardless of which 3 is the better talent just because they would know their roles


bird and hakeem would take a step back and let MJ be MJ


shaq and lebron wouldn't know how to play off the ball so both would demand the ball the entire time and then everyones going 1 on 3


i would rather kobe have Kareem and Magic tbh.. they would compete harder than lebron and shaq and they would be dominant inside scorers. any doubles would be a kick out to kobe for a shot or a pump fake and drive for a dunk or dump off to kareem.

Norcaliblunt
12-20-2022, 03:24 PM
At this point, Shaq is just a highly paid troll. :lol

At this point Shaq is net negative for society. He promotes pizza, insurance, and fake pain relief cream. All in the name of “look at me I’m successful”. Dude is just a bad person. Almost as bad as Robert Sarver.

Phoenix
12-20-2022, 03:27 PM
jordan/bird/hakeem would win regardless of which 3 is the better talent just because they would know their roles


bird and hakeem would take a step back and let MJ be MJ


shaq and lebron wouldn't know how to play off the ball so both would demand the ball the entire time and then everyones going 1 on 3


i would rather kobe have Kareem and Magic tbh.. they would compete harder than lebron and shaq and they would be dominant inside scorers. any doubles would be a kick out to kobe for a shot or a pump fake and drive for a dunk or dump off to kareem.

Then you'd have Kobe getting goaded into a mano a mano with MJ. Whole thing would be a train wreck.

SouBeachTalents
12-20-2022, 03:27 PM
Shaq, Steph, and Bird would be the unbeatable team.
I think my ultimate Big 3 would be Curry/Bird/Hakeem, so very similar to you.

Norcaliblunt
12-20-2022, 03:28 PM
shaq and lebron wouldn't know how to play off the ball so both would demand the ball the entire time and then everyones going 1 on 3


Shaq was a great off the ball player. In fact second best ever after Steph. Shaq would seal his position underneath the bucket without the ball, while Steph runs around the three point line. Them two together would the best duo ever.

Yeezy
12-20-2022, 03:28 PM
Then you'd have Kobe getting goaded into a mano a mano with MJ. Whole thing would be a train wreck.


kobe did nothing but light up jordan from 1998 to 2003

Yeezy
12-20-2022, 03:30 PM
Shaq was great off the ball player. In fact second best ever after Steph. Shaq would seal his position underneath the bucket without the ball, while Steph runs around the three point line. Them two together would the best duo ever.

shaq off the ball? what? lol where was he spotting up.. are you talking about him banging to get position for an isolation back down? thats not off the ball

only time shaq did anything off the ball was when kobe spoon fed him under the net... thats all kobes creativity and drawing the defense though. he did that with kwame brown too

John8204
12-20-2022, 03:31 PM
Jordan/Hakeem/Bird would win because Shaq has to many liabilities with his conditioning and free-throw shooting

Phoenix
12-20-2022, 03:32 PM
kobe did nothing but light up jordan from 1998 to 2003

That wasn't my point. Kobe would sabotage the outcome if it meant he outscored MJ in the process.

Yeezy
12-20-2022, 03:34 PM
new debate:


Kobe/Magic/Kareem

vs

Jordan/Bird/Hakeem




we the kobe community don't accept shaq or lebron as suitable teammates

Norcaliblunt
12-20-2022, 03:34 PM
shaq off the ball? what? lol where was he spotting up.. are you talking about him banging to get position for an isolation back down? thats not off the ball

only time shaq did anything off the ball was when kobe spoon fed him under the net... thats all kobes creativity and drawing the defense though. he did that with kwame brown too


Shaq finding and sealing position underneath the basket while drawing in defenders is playing without the ball. His offensive gravity without the ball is just as crazy as Stephs, just the opposite. He’s drawing multiple mofos to protect the paint before the play is even started.

Phoenix
12-20-2022, 03:35 PM
^^ That actually is a much better fit, chemistry-wise.

Yeezy
12-20-2022, 03:35 PM
That wasn't my point. Kobe would sabotage the outcome if it meant he outscored MJ in the process.

kobe plays excelent with others and is more than capable of taking a step back. he did it every year outside of 2006 and 2007

how do you think the lakers won their first 3 rings. no other legendary player compliments other superstars as well as kobe did

1987_Lakers
12-20-2022, 03:37 PM
Hakeem-Kawhi-Curry

Nobody beating that team.

Xiao Yao You
12-20-2022, 03:39 PM
new debate:


Kobe/Magic/Kareem

vs

Jordan/Bird/Hakeem




we the kobe community don't accept shaq or lebron as suitable teammates

same result. Replace Kobe with someone else and you may have something

Yeezy
12-20-2022, 03:39 PM
Hakeem-Kawhi-Curry

Nobody beating that team.

https://media.tenor.com/NtiVVe84exQAAAAM/team-america.gif

Yeezy
12-20-2022, 03:39 PM
same result. Replace Kobe with someone else and you may have something

a worse big 3?


whos matchup up with jordan better than kobe you f*cking dumbass lol

1987_Lakers
12-20-2022, 03:41 PM
In NBA Street Vol 2?

Give me Wilt, MJ, & Dr. J

Wilt was a cheat code in that game. Blocked every shot possible.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BZpWGQwUaM

Yeezy
12-20-2022, 03:42 PM
In NBA Street Vol 2?

Give me Wilt, MJ, & Dr. J

Wilt was a cheat code in that game. Blocked every shot possible.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BZpWGQwUaM

you just topped your last post. amazing

steves psychosis meltdown continues

Xiao Yao You
12-20-2022, 03:42 PM
a worse big 3?


whos matchup up with jordan better than kobe you f*cking dumbass lol

wouldn't want Kobe on my team

Phoenix
12-20-2022, 03:42 PM
kobe plays excelent with others and is more than capable of taking a step back. he did it every year outside of 2006 and 2007

how do you think the lakers won their first 3 rings. no other legendary player compliments other superstars as well as kobe did

How do you think the Lakers won their first 3 rings, you say? Why do you think they broke up?

When faced with the opportunity to show up against MJ, you think he's keeping his ego in check? For a Kobe nutcase you don't seem to know how he functioned. Kobe made a point of getting up for big matchups, and you think he's going to 'play a role' when MJ is facing him? MJ would make it a strategy to goad Kobe into putting that matchup ahead of the team goal.

1987_Lakers
12-20-2022, 03:43 PM
https://media.tenor.com/NtiVVe84exQAAAAM/team-america.gif

What's wrong with it?

Hakeem - GOAT level post moves & defender

Kawhi - Elite scorer who could shoot and give me DPOY defense

Curry - Basically a cheat code as a shooter

Yeezy
12-20-2022, 03:44 PM
wouldn't want Kobe on my team

so you choose to sabotage like lebron vs the suns



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkWam0yp9PE&ab_channel=GALACTICWRESTLINGFEDERATION

Yeezy
12-20-2022, 03:49 PM
What's wrong with it?

Hakeem - GOAT level post moves & defender

Kawhi - Elite scorer who could shoot and give me DPOY defense

Curry - Basically a cheat code as a shooter

jordan or peak kobe would literally eat curry alive on both ends. hell even lebron did

pippen on kawhi

hakeem would be tough but kareem would cancel him out


and in 3 on 3's its more oldschool rules. no touch fouls with streetball fashioned games



curry wouldn't be able to use 4 other guys to run around and go off screens. the spacing would be way different. he relies on the floor being clogged and freedom of movement

Yeezy
12-20-2022, 03:54 PM
do you actually think hakeem and kawhi are standing at the three point line as pick and screen setters for curry to get open looks. hes only good in a 5 on 5 setting. curry doesn't work in a game where he has to create shots for himself

1987_Lakers
12-20-2022, 03:55 PM
Curry doesn't need screens


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwxurH0dGmA

Having a 3 point shooter when 3 point shots are worth 2 points while a simple basket is worth 1 is huge. That is if we are playing street ball.

Yeezy
12-20-2022, 03:58 PM
Curry doesn't need screens


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwxurH0dGmA

Having a 3 point shooter when 3 point shots are worth 2 points while a simple basket is worth 1 is huge. That is if we are playing street ball.

so curry hitting 1 shot over 2014/15 kobe on one leg is your proof curry doesn't need screens and picks


https://media.tenor.com/NtiVVe84exQAAAAM/team-america.gif




curry wouldn't get a shot off on 2003 kobe or 1992 MJ sorry ... not without picks

RRR3
12-20-2022, 03:59 PM
Kenny is too simpleminded to get that guarding Curry takes great team defense. Kobe’s style of one on one individual defense isn’t helpful for guarding Curry at all.

Yeezy
12-20-2022, 04:00 PM
Kenny is too simpleminded to get that guarding Curry takes great team defense. Kobe’s style of one on one individual defense isn’t helpful for guarding Curry at all.

guarding curry is difficult in a clogged 5 on 5 game where he can run around 2 or 3 screens


when did i ever deny that

SouBeachTalents
12-20-2022, 04:00 PM
How do you think the Lakers won their first 3 rings, you say? Why do you think they broke up?

When faced with the opportunity to show up against MJ, you think he's keeping his ego in check? For a Kobe nutcase you don't seem to know how he functioned. Kobe made a point of getting up for big matchups, and you think he's going to 'play a role' when MJ is facing him? MJ would make it a strategy to goad Kobe into putting that matchup ahead of the team goal.
Just lol at the idea of Kobe getting to face his idol and him taking a backseat :lol That shit would never happen. He'd be jacking up awful shots like it was the '04 Finals.

Yeezy
12-20-2022, 04:02 PM
literally 90% of currys field goals come off this shit


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9jCq9Ip3eM&ab_channel=RawFilmBasketball



you're not doing this in a 3 on 3 so currys best asset is taken away

RRR3
12-20-2022, 04:03 PM
guarding curry is difficult in a clogged 5 on 5 game where he can run around 2 or 3 screens


when did i ever deny that
Even one screen would be too much for Lazybe. That dude hated rotating to open shooters even. Nothing but man to man defense.

Yeezy
12-20-2022, 04:03 PM
Just lol at the idea of Kobe getting to face his idol and him taking a backseat :lol That shit would never happen. He'd be jacking up awful shots like it was the '04 Finals.

like when kobe faced his idol from 1997 to 2003 and in every game other than the very last one he played within the team concept


sorry but we have actual evidence from real events that disputes your guys asinine assumptions

RRR3
12-20-2022, 04:04 PM
literally 90% of currys field goals come off this shit


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9jCq9Ip3eM&ab_channel=RawFilmBasketball



you're not doing this in a 3 on 3 so currys best asset is taken away
Screens would still happen and Kobe would beg LeBron to cover Curry instead.

Xiao Yao You
12-20-2022, 04:04 PM
so curry hitting 1 shot over 2014/15 kobe on one leg is your proof curry doesn't need screens and picks


https://media.tenor.com/NtiVVe84exQAAAAM/team-america.gif




curry wouldn't get a shot off on 2003 kobe or 1992 MJ sorry ... not without picks

than they are guarding him full court. He can make shots from anywhere

1987_Lakers
12-20-2022, 04:05 PM
This thread making me realize what a great game NBA Street Vol 2 was. Do they sell the game in arcade machine?

Yeezy
12-20-2022, 04:09 PM
Even one screen would be too much for Lazybe. That dude hated rotating to open shooters even. Nothing but man to man defense.

if kobe could make lebron look retarded 1 on 1 more than doubling his scoring and stripping/blocking him numerous times then what would he do with curry lol

Phoenix
12-20-2022, 04:10 PM
like when kobe faced his idol from 1997 to 2003 and in every game other than the very last one he played within the team concept


sorry but we have actual evidence from real events that disputes your guys asinine assumptions

Kobe was the only one in the 98 all-star game playing defense like it was a regular season game. Guess who his matchup was?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN3sto7KGQs

Phoenix
12-20-2022, 04:11 PM
This thread making me realize what a great game NBA Street Vol 2 was. Do they sell the game in arcade machine?

Nah that was a console game only for PS2/Xbox/Gamecube. I emulate that on my PC, still as good as the day it came out.:pimp:

RRR3
12-20-2022, 04:12 PM
if kobe could make lebron look retarded 1 on 1 more than doubling his scoring and stripping/blocking him numerous times then what would he do with curry lol
Your failure to recognize team defense (ESPECIALLY for Curry) is more important is hilarious. LeBron brutalizing Kobe head to head should have clued you in. There are no true 1on1 situations in the NBA either because there is always the threat of help. But again you don’t get this because you’re stupid. LeBron annihilated Kevin Durant when they played one on one if you think Kobe has a chance against someone that big in a true one on one you’re delusional. Has nothing to do with who’s better btw, Embiid would annihilate LeBron one on one for instance.

Yeezy
12-20-2022, 04:12 PM
Kobe was the only one in the 98 all-star game playing defense like it was a regular season game. Guess who his matchup was?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN3sto7KGQs

kobe had the mvp after 3 quarters too but they benched him to gift wrap it for MJ lol

RRR3
12-20-2022, 04:15 PM
Kobe was the only one in the 98 all-star game playing defense like it was a regular season game. Guess who his matchup was?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN3sto7KGQs
Imagine making 3ball look smart. Kenny is both the worst human being on ISH and the stupidest.

Phoenix
12-20-2022, 04:16 PM
kobe had the mvp after 3 quarters too but they benched him to gift wrap it for MJ lol

Does that negate what I said? In an all-star game where the players are mostly fukking around unless its close in the 4th, Kobe treating that shit like it's the NBA finals :oldlol: And you think in this 3 on 3 that he ain't gonna get caught up in a mano a mano with MJ trashtalking all day long.

My sweet summer child....

Yeezy
12-20-2022, 04:16 PM
Your failure to recognize team defense (ESPECIALLY for Curry) is more important is hilarious. LeBron brutalizing Kobe head to head should have clued you in.

lebron didn't brutalize kobe head to head. kobe brutalized lebron


i only go by them guarding each other

going by 5 on 5 outcomes when lebron has the better regular season team most of the time during their era isn't telling me much


i watched their 1 on 1 highlights and kobe f*cked him up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncMtXkL4Gu4

lebron 2 point hook shot shot 2-0
Kobe 3 point shot 2-3
Kobe 2 point running bank shot 2-5
Kobe 2 point up and under layup 2-7
Lebron 2 point layup 4-7
Kobe 2 point jumper 4-9
Kobe 2 point jumper 4-11
Kobe 2 point jumper 4-13
Kobe 3 point fall away shot 4-16
Kobe 2 point jumper 4-18
Kobe 3 point pull up 4-21
Kobe 2 point fall away bank shot 4-23
Kobe 3 point step back 4-26
Kobe 2 point fall away 4-28
Lebron 2 point fast break dunk 6-28
Lebron 2 point fade away 8-28
Kobe 2 point pull up shot 8-30
Lebron 2 point layup 10-30
Kobe 2 point running bank shot 10-32
Kobe 2 point jumper 10-34
Kobe 2 point jumper 10-36
Lebron 2 point jumper 12-36
Kobe 2 point layup 12-38
Lebron 2 point jumper 14-38
Kobe 2 point jumper 14-40
Lebron 2 point jumper 16-40
Kobe 2 point fall away shot 16-42
Kobe 3 point face up shot 16-45
Lebron 2 point fall away shot 19-45
Kobe 2 point high arching fade away 19-47
Kobe 2 point running leaner 19-49
Kobe 2 point dunk 19-51
Kobe 2 point rainbow fade away 19-53
Lebron 3 point step back 22-53
Kobe 2 point dunk 22-55
Kobe 3 point jumper 22-58
Lebron 2 point layup 24-58
Kobe 2 point fade away 24-60
Kobe 2 point layup 24-62
Kobe 2 point jumper 24-64
Kobe 2 point layup 24-66
Kobe 2 point fade away 24-68
Lebron 2 point layup 26-68
Kobe 2 point fake out layup 26-70
Lebron 2 point dunk 28-70
Kobe 2 point fade away 28-72
Kobe 3 point face up shot 28-75
Kobe 2 point fade away 28-77
Kobe 2 point pull up 28-79





Kobe won their career 1 on 1 matchups BY 50+ points


it was so embarrassing the guy deleted the video

:roll:

RRR3
12-20-2022, 04:16 PM
kobe had the mvp after 3 quarters too but they benched him to gift wrap it for MJ lol
Typical Kobe putting up great stats in a meaningless game. Yet when it mattered most he played like shit and got bailed out by his teammates.

1987_Lakers
12-20-2022, 04:18 PM
Does that negate what I said? In an all-star game where the players are mostly fukking around unless its close in the 4th, Kobe treating that shit like it's the NBA finals :oldlol: And you think in this 3 on 3 that he ain't gonna get caught up in a mano a mano with MJ trashtalking all day long.

My sweet summer child....

Damn, now it all makes sense why the NBA named the all-star mvp award after Kobe. Only player who took it serious. Whoever wins the first "Kobe" award is going to throw that thing right in the trash.

RRR3
12-20-2022, 04:18 PM
lebron didn't brutalize kobe head to head. kobe brutalized lebron


i only go by them guarding each other

going by 5 on 5 outcomes when lebron has the better regular season team most of the time during their era isn't telling me much


i watched their 1 on 1 highlights and kobe f*cked him up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncMtXkL4Gu4

lebron 2 point hook shot shot 2-0
Kobe 3 point shot 2-3
Kobe 2 point running bank shot 2-5
Kobe 2 point up and under layup 2-7
Lebron 2 point layup 4-7
Kobe 2 point jumper 4-9
Kobe 2 point jumper 4-11
Kobe 2 point jumper 4-13
Kobe 3 point fall away shot 4-16
Kobe 2 point jumper 4-18
Kobe 3 point pull up 4-21
Kobe 2 point fall away bank shot 4-23
Kobe 3 point step back 4-26
Kobe 2 point fall away 4-28
Lebron 2 point fast break dunk 6-28
Lebron 2 point fade away 8-28
Kobe 2 point pull up shot 8-30
Lebron 2 point layup 10-30
Kobe 2 point running bank shot 10-32
Kobe 2 point jumper 10-34
Kobe 2 point jumper 10-36
Lebron 2 point jumper 12-36
Kobe 2 point layup 12-38
Lebron 2 point jumper 14-38
Kobe 2 point jumper 14-40
Lebron 2 point jumper 16-40
Kobe 2 point fall away shot 16-42
Kobe 3 point face up shot 16-45
Lebron 2 point fall away shot 19-45
Kobe 2 point high arching fade away 19-47
Kobe 2 point running leaner 19-49
Kobe 2 point dunk 19-51
Kobe 2 point rainbow fade away 19-53
Lebron 3 point step back 22-53
Kobe 2 point dunk 22-55
Kobe 3 point jumper 22-58
Lebron 2 point layup 24-58
Kobe 2 point fade away 24-60
Kobe 2 point layup 24-62
Kobe 2 point jumper 24-64
Kobe 2 point layup 24-66
Kobe 2 point fade away 24-68
Lebron 2 point layup 26-68
Kobe 2 point fake out layup 26-70
Lebron 2 point dunk 28-70
Kobe 2 point fade away 28-72
Kobe 3 point face up shot 28-75
Kobe 2 point fade away 28-77
Kobe 2 point pull up 28-79





Kobe won their career 1 on 1 matchups BY 50+ points


it was so embarrassing the guy deleted the video

:roll:
LeBron was 8-5 versus Kobe before he went to Miami :lol

Meaning he won 61.3% of the time playing with bums against Kobe :yaohappy:

Curry once “held” LeBron to like 22% shooting in the finals, you really don’t get these stats mean nothing without context because of help defense. Unless you think Curry can guard LeBron 1 on 1.

Yeezy
12-20-2022, 04:18 PM
Does that negate what I said? In an all-star game where the players are mostly fukking around unless its close in the 4th, Kobe treating that shit like it's the NBA finals :oldlol: And you think in this 3 on 3 that he ain't gonna get caught up in a mano a mano with MJ trashtalking all day long.

My sweet summer child....

so when kobe did that behind the back running 15 foot hook shot he was gunning like it was a serious game?

most of his shots had a showboat nature. didn't see any serious layups or anything

RRR3
12-20-2022, 04:19 PM
Kenny is absolutely fuming. How long until he has another racist meltdown?

RRR3
12-20-2022, 04:20 PM
so when kobe did that behind the back running 15 foot hook shot he was gunning like it was a serious game?

most of his shots had a showboat nature. didn't see any serious layups or anything
That’s just how he played you moron. One of his nicknames was showboat.

1987_Lakers
12-20-2022, 04:20 PM
Nah that was a console game only for PS2/Xbox/Gamecube. I emulate that on my PC, still as good as the day it came out.:pimp:

I had it on PS2 growing up. Just don't feel like buying one now in order to play 1 game.

Yeezy
12-20-2022, 04:20 PM
LeBron was 8-5 versus Kobe before he went to Miami :lol

Meaning he won 61.3% of the time playing with bums against Kobe :yaohappy:

Curry once “held” LeBron to like 22% shooting in the finals, you really don’t get these stats mean nothing without context because of help defense. Unless you think Curry can guard LeBron 1 on 1.

and i remember one of the wins coming in a game kobe got injured in the 1st quarter


another one in cleveland where kobe got hacked the entire game with no call


and cleveland wasn't a better team than the lakers in 2005? 2006? 2007?

they didn't gun for the best record so lebron could win league mvp in 2009 and 2010?


kobe had the better regular season roster in 2004 and half of 2008 at least

Phoenix
12-20-2022, 04:21 PM
so when kobe did that behind the back running 15 foot hook shot he was gunning like it was a serious game?

most of his shots had a showboat nature. didn't see any serious layups or anything

I said he was playing defense on MJ like it was a serious game. And getting torched.

RRR3
12-20-2022, 04:22 PM
and i remember one of the wins coming in a game kobe got injured in the 1st quarter


another one in cleveland where kobe got hacked the entire game with no call


and cleveland wasn't a better team than the lakers in 2005? 2006? 2007?

they didn't gun for the best record so lebron could win league mvp in 2009 and 2010?


kobe had the better regular season roster in 2004 and half of 2008 at least
Cleveland was absolutely not a better team LeBron is just better at carrying bums.

The rest is excuses and tears :lol

“Refs! Injuries! :cry:”

:roll:

RRR3
12-20-2022, 04:23 PM
I just realized this retard can’t even admit Kobe had a better roster than LeBron in 2009 and 2010. Holy shit lol. That 09 Cavs team wins like 45 games with Kobe. LeBron got 66 :oldlol:

Phoenix
12-20-2022, 04:24 PM
I had it on PS2 growing up. Just don't feel like buying one now in order to play 1 game.

You got a gaming rig? If so just emulate it. I got in running on Dolphin in 4k, though I prefer to run it on the PS2 emulator because the controls map better on that system.

RRR3
12-20-2022, 04:24 PM
I said he was playing defense on MJ like it was a serious game. And getting torched.
Remember when Iverson barbecued Kobe so bad in the finals they had to put a different defender on him after game 1? Kenny doesn’t :lol

Yeezy
12-20-2022, 04:25 PM
Cleveland was absolutely not a better team LeBron is just better at carrying bums.

The rest is excuses and tears :lol

“Refs! Injuries! :cry:”

:roll:

so you think kobe with kwame/smush/cook/luke was a better squad than what lebron had in 2005, 2006, 2007 and half of 2008?


kobe didn't have major injuries during the year in 2008, 2009 and 2010 to his knee and shooting hand?


the cavs didn't have one of the top team defenses/rebounding and three point shooters?


whats with this revisionist history shit


theres a reason they won 66 games and it wasn't just cause of lebron

Phoenix
12-20-2022, 04:26 PM
Remember when Iverson barbecued Kobe so bad in the finals they had to put a different defender on him after game 1? Kenny doesn’t :lol

:oldlol: Yep

AlternativeAcc.
12-20-2022, 04:27 PM
Kobe is trash though

Weak link.

Lebron still carries

RRR3
12-20-2022, 04:28 PM
so you think kobe with kwame/smush/cook/luke was a better squad than what lebron had in 2005, 2006, 2007 and half of 2008?
Absolute prime Kobe had Lamar Odom and Caron Butler in 2005 and managed an incredible 34 wins. Truly inspiring. We could give Kobe a pass for this if we was old or young but this is literally right in the middle of his prime.

Who the hell did LeBron have from 05-08? Big Z who was at best Odom level and a bunch of complete bums. Also Bynum was Bynum by 2008 so lol at that year even without Pau.

Norcaliblunt
12-20-2022, 04:33 PM
Why do Kobe fans and Lebron fans always ruin these discussions?

3ba11
12-20-2022, 04:34 PM
Absolute prime Kobe had Lamar Odom and Caron Butler in 2005 and managed an incredible 34 wins. Truly inspiring. We could give Kobe a pass for this if we was old or young but this is literally right in the middle of his prime.

Who the hell did LeBron have from 05-08? Big Z who was at best Odom level and a bunch of complete bums. Also Bynum was Bynum by 2008 so lol at that year even without Pau.


Alongside the expert jumpshooting of Arenas, a guy like Larry Hughes was the NBA steals champ and a 22/6/5 First Team defender in 2005

Lebron's skillset simply reduced Hughes to a bum

But Hughes would perform excellently again alongside Kobe's expert jumpshooting just like he did Arenas'

And Antawn Jamison averaged 20 ppg as the 3rd option alongside Arenas in 2005, but only 15 as the 2nd option to Lebron in 2010

SouBeachTalents
12-20-2022, 04:36 PM
Gilbert Arenas > LeBron

RRR3
12-20-2022, 04:40 PM
Larry Hughes having a fluke year means nothing when he was mediocre most of his career. It’s like saying Julius Randle is an elite player because of 2021.

RRR3
12-20-2022, 04:41 PM
Gilbert Arenas > LeBron
https://youtu.be/fLFT2KsU_7E

3ba11
12-20-2022, 04:42 PM
Gilbert Arenas > LeBron


No but other expert jumpshooters that won many titles and are better than Arenas are certainly superior to Lebron like Curry, MJ, Kobe or Bird, along with various centers who also won with a little less and whose rings/accolades are equal or better (Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Duncan, Shaq).. And my personal preference is to put Magic at #10 because I feel that he was a more instinctive/pure basketball player than Lebron and vastly superior passer.. I think Lebron's passing is overrated because Jordan averaged more assists in the playoffs for the first 9 years of their playoff careers (85-93' vs 06-14') until Curry's pace and space era made offense easier for everyone.

Yeezy
12-20-2022, 04:47 PM
Remember when Iverson barbecued Kobe so bad in the finals they had to put a different defender on him after game 1? Kenny doesn’t

interesting

just rewatched iversons game 1 highlights. he was guarded mostly by fisher except for these plays where kobe put up great D. iverson just made the tough shot



https://i.ibb.co/163YHBL/Screen-Shot-2022-12-20-at-3-35-11-PM.png



https://i.ibb.co/64VBXXF/Screen-Shot-2022-12-20-at-3-34-13-PM.png



https://i.ibb.co/xSx5c7b/Screen-Shot-2022-12-20-at-3-38-14-PM.png


kobe was somehow called for a foul on this play where he clearly blocked iverson clean

https://i.ibb.co/C5GjF0K/Screen-Shot-2022-12-20-at-3-41-01-PM.png


https://i.ibb.co/VJC2y51/Screen-Shot-2022-12-20-at-3-45-19-PM.png


so iverson made 4 or 5 shots over kobes amazing D.. good job AI


there was on bad play where kobe conseded a layup. didn't like it

RRR3
12-20-2022, 04:48 PM
interesting

just rewatched iversons game 1 highlights. he was guarded mostly by fisher except for these plays where kobe put up great D. iverson just made the tough shot



https://i.ibb.co/163YHBL/Screen-Shot-2022-12-20-at-3-35-11-PM.png



https://i.ibb.co/64VBXXF/Screen-Shot-2022-12-20-at-3-34-13-PM.png



https://i.ibb.co/xSx5c7b/Screen-Shot-2022-12-20-at-3-38-14-PM.png


kobe was somehow called for a foul on this play where he clearly blocked iverson clean

https://i.ibb.co/C5GjF0K/Screen-Shot-2022-12-20-at-3-41-01-PM.png


https://i.ibb.co/VJC2y51/Screen-Shot-2022-12-20-at-3-45-19-PM.png


so iverson made 4 or 5 shots over kobes amazing D.. good job AI
Steaming.

3ba11
12-20-2022, 04:48 PM
Larry Hughes having a fluke year means nothing when he was mediocre most of his career. It’s like saying Julius Randle is an elite player because of 2021.


Larry Hughes averaged 20/5/5 in Golden State in 2000 and 2001.... Then he averaged 19/5 in 2004 before his breakout year in 2005 where Lebron begged (https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-15-2021/LIlDOj.gif) Hughes during a game to join his Cavs the following year.

Lebron destroyed him, while the expert jumpshooting of Arenas was a superior fit, so an even superior jumpshooter like Curry or MJ would've won titles with him

Yeezy
12-20-2022, 04:50 PM
btw how many times did iverson guard kobe that series

:lol

Yeezy
12-20-2022, 04:50 PM
Steaming.

debunked

RRR3
12-20-2022, 04:50 PM
btw how many times did iverson guard kobe that series

:lol
Fuming. Why would you guard Kobe with a 6 foot point guard who wasn’t a good defender? :facepalm

RRR3
12-20-2022, 04:51 PM
debunked
You’re completely unreliable and lie constantly.

Yeezy
12-20-2022, 04:51 PM
Fuming. Why would you guard Kobe with a 6 foot point guard who wasn’t a good defender? :facepalm

i proved you wrong. take the L

Yeezy
12-20-2022, 04:52 PM
You’re completely unreliable and lie constantly.

video lies?

RRR3
12-20-2022, 04:53 PM
Kenny is due for another nazi meltdown that gets him banned.

Norcaliblunt
12-20-2022, 04:56 PM
Kobe and Lebron both suck corporate wang. Can we Agree?

Norcaliblunt
12-20-2022, 05:03 PM
What is crazy is how RR3 and Kenny both show you how the right and left are the same. Cheering and arguing the two sides of a corporate coin. Same corps, different player. Right? Left? Fake as ****.

Yeezy
12-20-2022, 05:37 PM
What is crazy is how RR3 and Kenny both show you how the right and left are the same. Cheering and arguing the two sides of a corporate coin. Same corps, different player. Right? Left? Fake as ****.

I'm more of a Canadian conservative than an american right winger. I believe in both right and left wing ideals


I'm liberal in terms of free health care but at the same time I think people should be able to pay for better medical insurance with more skilled doctors and surgeons

I also believe in gun control to a certain extent. like illegal hand gun crimes should be given major penalties like 20 years to life. legal guns are fine as long as they're locked up. if someone does a mass shooting or killing of any kind in the premeditated first degree they should be sent to a hard labor prison camp for the rest of their lives. I don't believe in the death penalty. I believe in enforced slavery of criminals. pay it back to society.

I also believe in personal choice and freedoms as long as they're adults and don't indoctrinate, mutilate or murder children. I believe in trans rights and they should be given completely separate bathrooms for the criminally insane


I believe in open drug usage and prostitution in designated areas like Las Vegas and Portland. what the world needs is more segregation. open borders are fine as long as they stay in California. don't ruin republican areas through migration. and all illegals must pay double tax. if they do tax evasion they're sent to jail like everyone else. no more zero cash bail and no charges for theft under 1000. we need street justice and public shaming to return. if someone steals from you then you have the right to beat them into the ground

these are all 100% 50/50 universally accept political view points. people are just too fixated on their team winning they go with whatever they say

RRR3
12-20-2022, 09:47 PM
Kobe and Lebron both suck corporate wang. Can we Agree?
Most people are capitalists, so yeah.

RRR3
12-20-2022, 09:48 PM
What is crazy is how RR3 and Kenny both show you how the right and left are the same. Cheering and arguing the two sides of a corporate coin. Same corps, different player. Right? Left? Fake as ****.
I don’t cheer for LeBron because of my political views and I’m sure it’s the same way for Kenny. Ridiculous comment.

Axe
12-21-2022, 02:46 AM
than they are guarding him full court. He can make shots from anywhere
Unfortunately even moreso if the league used to have a wnba 3-point line bt.

ImKobe
12-21-2022, 10:26 AM
KB & MJ are a wash but Bird & Hakeem are better than Bran & Shaq.

SouBeachTalents
12-21-2022, 10:27 AM
KB & MJ are a wash but Bird & Hakeem are better than Bran & Shaq.
:lol If it's peak Kobe vs. 2nd 3peat Jordan, maybe.

Yeezy
12-21-2022, 10:38 AM
:lol If it's peak Kobe vs. 2nd 3peat Jordan, maybe.

2003 kobe vs 1992 MJ is a wash

2006 kobe vs 1996 MJ is a wash


thats 5 on 5 though. in a 1 on 1 even MJ admits kobe would spank his ass



2003 kobe is too talented/athletic for MJ. jordan was never this complete


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxf-4WTc3Jw&ab_channel=MaxaMillion711

L8krH8tr
12-21-2022, 02:51 PM
Youre a joke Shaq
https://i.postimg.cc/k58qbxcN/fakerssss.jpg (https://postimages.org/)imghost (https://postimages.org/)