LeBron has scored 30+ points in 6 straight games.

[1987_Lakers]

In year 20. :biggums:

[Full Court]

In year 20. :biggums:

If he scored those 30+ points when the Lakers needed him to, they might not be on a three game losing streak.

It's what's referred to, in the parlance of the sport, as empty stats.

[1987_Lakers]

If he scored those 30+ points when the Lakers needed him to, they might not be on a three game losing streak.

It's what's referred to, in the parlance of the sport, as empty stats.

"Wilt is empty stats, but he's top 3 ever" - fullcourt

:lol

[Full Court]

"Wilt is empty stats, but he's top 3 ever" - fullcourt

:lol

He obviously wasn't empty stats his entire career. Neither was LeShrivel. That doesn't change the fact that he is now.

And you know this. And the truth hurts.

[1987_Lakers]

He obviously wasn't empty stats his entire career. Neither was LeShrivel. That doesn't change the fact that he is now.

And you know this. And the truth hurts.

Only difference is you said Wilt was "empty stats" during his prime, your words, not mine.

Bron is "empty stats" according to you at age 38, which is more acceptable.

Wonder which is worse. :lol

[ImKobe]

Lakers are a shitshow.. who tf cares about Bran's personal numbers

Funny how a supposed "GOAT" is on pace to miss the POs yet again.. Lakers have been a joke 4 out of 5 seasons with him here and the only Playoff run we had was thanks to AD & the bubble..

Can't believe they gave this clown an extension instead of going for a full rebuild.

[1987_Lakers]

Can't believe they gave this clown an extension instead of going for a full rebuild.

Made more sense than giving Kobe an extension while he averaged 17 ppg on 30 fg%

[ImKobe]

Made more sense than giving Kobe an extension while he averaged 17 ppg on 30 fg%

Kobe got the extension after the 2013 season and Lakers were fine with paying him & rebuilding at the same time regardless. KB did enough to earn that deal after all the championships he brought to LA. They don't have the same luxury with Bran as they don't have their picks. Pelicans are about to get another top 10 pick thanks to Bran.

[1987_Lakers]

Kobe got the extension after the 2013 season and Lakers were fine with paying him & rebuilding at the same time regardless. KB did enough to earn that deal after all the championships he brought to LA. They don't have the same luxury with Bran as they don't have their picks. Pelicans are about to get another top 10 pick thanks to Bran.

Gave him a 50 million dollar extension right after he tore his Achilles. And what did he do the rest of his career? Averaged 19 ppg on 36 fg% and at the very least was the worst starting player in the NBA. No matter how hard you try to slice it was a bad move.

Kobe at LeBron's current age was already retired, despite that he is still putting up 27/8/7 on 49 fg%, he is far from the Lakers main issue. But keep making yourself look like a moron.

[Im Still Ballin]

LeBron is a beast. Imagine if he had a good team around him.

[1987_Lakers]

LeBron is a beast. Imagine if he had a good team around him.

He can still contribute at a very high level on the right team, just doesn't have the energy & athleticism to carry the load like he did in the past. Despite all that, what he is doing in year 20 is something that has never been seen. I'm truly appreciating it.

[Lebron23]

Lebron is carrying a garbage team

[nayte]

Couldn't beat the worst owner in sports apparently

[Lebron23]

LeBron is a beast. Imagine if he had a good team around him.

This


Lebron is my hero

[nayte]

:lol
Your nearly 40 and you talk this way

[Spurs m8]

He keeps leading his team to losses, because he stat pads like a selfish fvck, yet cvck fans like op bend over and cop that losing c0ck in their ass.

And then create threads about how they love it and love their team losing.

Op...you are a truly pathetic little virgin b1tch

[nayte]

Jesus dude
To much

[Spurs m8]

Jesus dude
To much

In most cases...maybe

But 87 is pure trash

[1987_Lakers]

Op...you are a truly pathetic little virgin b1tch

Stop projecting.

[1987_Lakers]

Jesus dude
To much

He is by far the most miserable person on this forum. :lol

[nayte]

He is by far the most miserable person on this forum. :lol

To be fair Jordan gets the blame somehow when the hornets lose so expect this but still

[Lebron23]

greatest player of all time

[RRR3]

It’s honestly definitely a good thing for Spurs m8 the Lakers suck because if he gets this mad about LeBron being on a shitty team he’d probably go insane if they were contenders.

[Spurs m8]

Cmon bronie....deliver me that loss c0ck, nice and hard - 1987

[Manny98]

He keeps leading his team to losses, because he stat pads like a selfish fvck, yet cvck fans like op bend over and cop that losing c0ck in their ass.

And then create threads about how they love it and love their team losing.

Op...you are a truly pathetic little virgin b1tch

Exactly, if you don't win the stats are meaningless

[Overdrive]

LeBron is a beast. Imagine if he had a good team around him.

If his team was good he couldn't put up these stats.

[Im Still Ballin]

If his team was good he couldn't put up these stats.

Why not?

[zeerghit]

Cmon bronie....deliver me that loss c0ck, nice and hard - 1987

at last this guy comes out

[Axe]

at last this guy comes out
For funny reasons, the haters come more in these kinds of threads than the stans do. :oldlol:

[Legend248]

Cmon bronie....deliver me that loss c0ck, nice and hard - 1987

Honestly "Spurs M8" and I are the biggest lebum fans here......but come on take that shot..........


"Spurs M8" real question here brotha.....after this play will you still be a fan of lebum james? I ask you because you are one high IQ poster here and we are known to be the "biggest LEBUM fans here" but now I have him top 25 now brotha!!! And you know that we are his "biggest" fans here......smh

[Full Court]

Only difference is you said Wilt was "empty stats" during his prime, your words, not mine.

Bron is "empty stats" according to you at age 38, which is more acceptable.

Wonder which is worse. :lol

And yet still, Wilt was a far better player. If he could hit free throws, he could have been the GOAT.

[1987_Lakers]

And yet still, Wilt was a far better player. If he could hit free throws, he could have been the GOAT.

Damn, so a dude who was "empty stats" according to you in his prime is top 3 ever. :lol

[Full Court]

Why not?

Look at his stats with and without AD playing. Huge difference.

[Full Court]

Damn, so a dude who was "empty stats" according to you in his prime is top 3 ever. :lol

Unlike Bronie fluffers, I am capable of using multiple criteria in rankings.

[1987_Lakers]

LeBron currently with 38/6/5.

Make it 7 straight.

[Manny98]

Lebron fans are the only fans of any athlete that celebrate stats in a loss :facepalm

[1987_Lakers]

Manny the only person who switches which player he stans every season. :facepalm

[red1]

people dont realize how good of a duo AD and even current lebron is.


they could have taken out both of the last two champs.

[Spurs m8]

Lebron fans are the only fans of any athlete that celebrate stats in a loss :facepalm

Its bizarre.

There's never been a single time in any sport that I've been happy in a loss due to some meaningless stats.

An L is an L...its a fail any way you look at it.

But we all know LeBarry stans don't exactly win in life...

[Yeezy]

In year 20. :biggums:

sloths dominate today's nba. how is lebron any less athletic than a joker or luka

[Yeezy]

people dont realize how good of a duo AD and even current lebron is.


they could have taken out both of the last two champs.

you know there's this thing called defense right

[red1]

you know there's this thing called defense right

they were by FAR the best defensive team in the league.


I caught all the games. their offense was predictable but with leGOAT slowing the game down and executing on offense and AD locking down the paint - they were a disgusting duo.


2020 lakers were VERY good. couldnt hit a three to save their lives but dominated with size and IQ/talent between AD lebron and rondo.

[red1]

when AD plays these lakers are still very good. westbrook is a good defender and AD covers for lebron's weak defense at this stage of his career.

[Full Court]

LeBron currently with 38/6/5.

Make it 7 straight.

No, it's only 4 straight.


Ohhhhhhhh wait, nevermind. I thought you were talking about losses. :roll::roll:

[Spurs m8]

No, it's only 4 straight.


Ohhhhhhhh wait, nevermind. I thought you were talking about losses. :roll::roll:

:roll:

Imagine pretending to be a Laker fan and spending Xmas day running around after a loss, defending the guy that's bringing you L after L...

[red1]

:roll:

Imagine pretending to be a Laker fan and spending Xmas day running around after a loss, defending the guy that's bringing you L after L...

you posted more about lebron than 1987 lakers ever did.


and he's ACTUALLY a laker fan. :oldlol:

[Full Court]

you posted more about lebron than 1987 lakers ever did.


and he's ACTUALLY a laker fan. :oldlol:

I kind of feel bad for him. His team isn't doing very well. Mine (the Bulls) isn't either, but man, the Lakers are even worse.

[kawhileonard2]

Empty calories.

[Manny98]

Empty calories.

LeDietCoke

[SaltyMeatballs]

And yet still, Wilt was a far better player. If he could hit free throws, he could have been the GOAT.

Wilt is not greater than LeBron by any stretch

[Wally450]

Shame he has to play with the bums on that roster.

[Spurs m8]

Shame he has to play with the bums on that roster.

Shame he played LeGM and traded the farm for AD and WB.

He only has himself to blame and takes like this are truly pathetic

Go get brainwashed by more sports illustrated

[1987_Lakers]

Shame he has to play with the bums on that roster.

Agreed

[kawhileonard2]

Shame he has to play with the bums on that roster.

Prime Russell Westbrook all time leader in triple doubles and a guy who won league mvp.

[Hey Yo]

Lebron fans are the only fans of any athlete that celebrate stats in a loss :facepalm

MJ fans do it everyday when referring to his 63pt game in double OT against Boston.

[1987_Lakers]

MJ fans do it everyday when referring to his 63pt game in double OT against Boston.

:oldlol:

[Axe]

Wilt is not greater than LeBron by any stretch
One finals mvp + multiple chokejobs in the playoffs = "top 3 all-time"

[Wally450]

Prime Russell Westbrook all time leader in triple doubles and a guy who won league mvp.

:roll::roll::roll:

[3ba11]

Lakers are a shitshow.. who tf cares about Bran's personal numbers

Funny how a supposed "GOAT" is on pace to miss the POs yet again.. Lakers have been a joke 4 out of 5 seasons with him here and the only Playoff run we had was thanks to AD & the bubble..

Can't believe they gave this clown an extension instead of going for a full rebuild.


Lebron and his garbage brand of ball has been a complete joke in a real conference like the West

it's funny that people gave him credit for winning a weak East, especially after consolidating power in the conference (putting the top 3 first options on 1 team)

[1987_Lakers]

Lebron and his garbage brand of ball has been a complete joke in a real conference like the West

it's funny that people gave him credit for winning a weak East, especially after consolidating power in the conference (putting the top 3 first options on 1 team)

Remember when you were bragging earlier in the year that Wizards MJ has a higher PER than current LeBron?

Not the case anymore. :lol

[StrongLurk]

Bron is still a beast

[3ba11]

Remember when you were bragging earlier in the year that Wizards MJ has a higher PER than current LeBron?

Not the case anymore. :lol


Jordan's advantage would be magnified in today's no-defense era - the best players realize greater advantages from the easy format than lesser players

And the Lakers are losing right now becuase they're worst in clutch, while MJ had goat clutch and 3 game-winners during the 2002 season... btw, jordan would fit LIKE A GLOVE with westbrook, so westbrook wouldn't have to come off bench and the lakers could maximize their chemistry and talent

ultimately, 28 ppg in today's era is literally nothing ESPECIALLY if you aren't trying to win games.. Lebron is just a joke and charade that waits for the next manufactured ring and fake milestone to pump him up.. meanwhile, his actual basketball falls far short of goat-caliber

[Axe]

Jordan's advantage would be magnified in today's no-defense era - the best players realize greater advantages from the easy format than lesser players

And the Lakers are losing right now becuase they're worst in clutch, while MJ had goat clutch and 3 game-winners during the 2002 season.

ultimately, 28 ppg in today's era is literally nothing ESPECIALLY if you aren't trying to win games.. Lebron is just a joke and charade that waits for the next manufactured ring and fake milestone to pump him up
Liar. You think that's accurate basing on how you talk about him here most of the time?

[3ba11]

Liar. You think that's accurate basing on how you talk about him here most of the time?


the media inflates him, while social media keeps it real and him pulls him back to earth

ultimately, he needed to team up to win (talent-based winning) and never actually learned good basketball (organic chemistry) - he never really learned how to WIN (organic) and only learned how to team-hop (talent-based winning.. all-star team strategy)

[Axe]

By 'organic', then you also need to have a great coach. Doug collins was never one of them...

[3ba11]

By 'organic', then you also need to have a great coach. Doug collins was never one of them...


Spolestra and Lue are all-time coaches

Mike Brown is still coaching strong and will be recognized again one day (he was already COY when he integrated Mo Williams for a 21-win increase in 2009)

Phil was a great coach but his secret sauce required an expert jumpshooter - a goat jumpshooter to execute the triangle - so Lebron wouldn't win anything with Phil and Phil would get fired really quickly.

Anyone can run a ball-dominant, Luka-style offense - but few guys can be the expert jumpshooters (including off-ball) and post-dominators required to win with an offense like the triangle.. only the 2 goats did that.. only the goats could dominate the post as guards.

[Axe]

:roll:

[1987_Lakers]

Jordan's advantage would be magnified in today's no-defense era - the best players realize greater advantages from the easy format than lesser players

PER takes into account the era they played in.

Despite this, LeBron's PER is still higher.

[3ba11]

:roll:


Lebron isn't coachable

he's just a dumb ball-dominator that can't run nuanced, sophisticated #1 offense despite having the most offensive help ever

so he just needs super-teams - it makes sense that the fake goat infact can't be coached

:roll:

[3ba11]

PER takes into account the era they played in.

Despite this, LeBron's PER is still higher.


That's why I said Jordan would have a greater advantage over his peers in today's era because the best players realize greater advantages from the easy format than lesser players..

So Jordan's PER would be higher today than it was in 2002 when there were less things for great players to take advantage of (spacing, hands-off defense, no impede rules)

Btw, Lebron is still 37, while Jordan would be turning 39 in about a month, so I was actually giving Lebron a headstart by comparing a year early.. Regardledss, he isn't dominating like Wizards MJ because MJ was still good in the clutch and winning games - MJ was 30-30 with the Wizards in 2002 and he also had a 24-12 run after a 2-9 start..

[Spurs m8]

Lebron isn't coachable

he's just a dumb ball-dominator that can't run nuanced, sophisticated #1 offense despite having the most offensive help ever

so he just needs super-teams - it makes sense that the fake goat infact can't be coached

:roll:

No word of a lie here.

Any non-low iq fan can see it.

Story of his entire career

[Hey Yo]

Jordan's advantage would be magnified in today's no-defense era - the best players realize greater advantages from the easy format than lesser players

And the Lakers are losing right now becuase they're worst in clutch, while MJ had goat clutch and 3 game-winners during the 2002 season... btw, jordan would fit LIKE A GLOVE with westbrook, so westbrook wouldn't have to come off bench and the lakers could maximize their chemistry and talent

ultimately, 28 ppg in today's era is literally nothing ESPECIALLY if you aren't trying to win games.. Lebron is just a joke and charade that waits for the next manufactured ring and fake milestone to pump him up.. meanwhile, his actual basketball falls far short of goat-caliber

Jordan's advantage was 15 seasons over 19yrs.


ZERO chance he could have played 20 consecutive seasons.

[Keno]

bron with a solid cast could've been a contender this year, shame the front office wasted this season. everyone knows AD is an injury prone scrub.

[kawhileonard2]

Jordan's advantage was 15 seasons over 19yrs.


ZERO chance he could have played 20 consecutive seasons.

Sure he would he would have more than 10 titles if the case with the organization that drafted him.

[kawhileonard2]

bron with a solid cast could've been a contender this year, shame the front office wasted this season. everyone knows AD is an injury prone scrub.

He had a solid cast the last 2 years. One year lost in round 1 as the favorite and another year was the 2nd favorite to win it all and didn't even make the playoffs.

[TheMan]

:lol
Your nearly 40 and you talk this way

Mentally he's around 12 so it's fine.

[ImKobe]

Bran with another empty stats performance...

MJ at 38 had the Wizards at 18 - 15 through 33 games and he had B2B games of 51 & 45 in that stretch too. He was carrying a 19-win team from the year before that had a bunch of no-namers & a young Rip Hamilton. He was also playing on a bad knee. Bran has no excuses.

[Indian guy]

LeBron's averaging 34/7/7 on 65% TS during this 7 game 30+ stretch. +56 on/off. Lakers are 3-4 in those games.

He's actually still good enough to be the best player on a championship team. Lakers just suck, unfortunately. With AD down I don't think they have a single player besides LeBron who'd start on a playoff team. Reaves comes closest.

[Kblaze8855]

He would obviously be a first ballot Hall of Famer if he were the player he is today for his entire career he just wouldn’t be in the top three conversation Most people have him.

[Im Still Ballin]

LeBron's averaging 34/7/7 on 65% TS during this 7 game 30+ stretch. +56 on/off. Lakers are 3-4 in those games.

He's actually still good enough to be the best player on a championship team. Lakers just suck, unfortunately. With AD down I don't think they have a single player besides LeBron who'd start on a playoff team. Reaves comes closest.

Noice!

His last 16 games:

- 29.8 ppg // 7.6 rpg // 6.4 apg // 1.2 spg // 0.5 bpg // 2.8 topg
- 60.88% TS // 36% 3PT (6.9 3PA) // 77% FT (5.4 FTA)
- +3.0

Pretty much in line with what he was doing last season. Get the right personnel around him and pray for AD's health. They could still win a championship IF those things happen.

[StrongLurk]

Bran with another empty stats performance...

MJ at 38 had the Wizards at 18 - 15 through 33 games and he had B2B games of 51 & 45 in that stretch too. He was carrying a 19-win team from the year before that had a bunch of no-namers & a young Rip Hamilton. He was also playing on a bad knee. Bran has no excuses.

Lebron was a positive +2 against the Mavs in 34 minutes. Westbrook was -30 in 24 minutes...so I think he's the guy you should complain about.

Empty stats refer to getting stats with BAD efficiency and no defense. Someone like Demarcus Cousins in his prime or Westbrook in these last four seasons or so...basically low scoring percentage, high turnovers, and below average or bad defense.

Lebron definitely has bad defense at this stage of his career, but he's had very good turnaround since a rusty start. Very efficient offense with low turnovers too, so no he isn't putting up empty stats.

His last 16 games:

- 29.8 ppg // 7.6 rpg // 6.4 apg // 1.2 spg // 0.5 bpg // 2.8 topg
- 60.88% TS // 36% 3PT (6.9 3PA) // 77% FT (5.4 FTA)
- +3.0