Who was the player of the decade for the 00's?

[1987_Lakers]

Shaq, Kobe or Duncan?

[Yeezy]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant

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anything else sweetie?

[Im Still Ballin]

Let's tally up:

Shaq:
- 4 championships
- 3 FMVPs
- 1 MVP (2 Sporting News MVPs)
- 5 Finals appearances

Duncan:
- 3 championships
- 2 FMVPs
- 2 MVPs
- 3 Finals appearances

Kobe:
- 5 championships
- 2 FMVPs
- 1 MVP
- 7 Finals appearances

[Im Still Ballin]

Shaq was the most dominant. His first three years were stronger than anyone else's. Duncan was the most consistent. He had the Spurs in contention almost every year of the decade. Kobe was something of a mix of consistency and dominance.

[SouBeachTalents]

While Shaq at his peak was the best player of the decade, he was frankly too irrelevant the last 3 years of the decade to get the nod imo.

It's very debatable between Duncan & Kobe, I'd give the slight nod to Duncan.

[1987_Lakers]

Let's tally up:

Shaq:
- 4 championships
- 3 FMVPs
- 1 MVP (2 Sporting News MVPs)
- 5 Finals appearances

Duncan:
- 3 championships
- 2 FMVPs
- 2 MVPs
- 3 Finals appearances

Kobe:
- 5 championships
- 2 FMVPs
- 1 MVP
- 7 Finals appearances

Kobe won 4 chips. One of them came in 2010.

I say Duncan was the most consistent throughout the 00's. Shaq was the most dominant, but by '06 his game dropped a considerable amount.

[Yeezy]

tim duncan and shaquille o'neal career 40 point games combined = 54 (49 for shaq, 5 for duncan )
tim duncan and shaquille o'neal career 50 point games combined = 4 ( 3 for shaq, 1 for duncan )
tim duncan and shaquille o'neal career 60 point games combined = 1 ( 1 for shaq, 0 for duncan )
tim duncan and shaquille o'neal career 80 point games combined = 0



kobe bryant career 40 point games = 122
kobe bryant career 50 point games = 25
kobe bryant career 60 point games = 6
kobe bryant career 80 point games = 1




i mean who are we kidding here

[Im Still Ballin]

Kobe won 4 chips. One of them came in 2010.

I say Duncan was the most consistent throughout the 00's. Shaq was the most dominant, but by '06 his game dropped a considerable amount.

Yeah, I was thinking about how to deal with that? Where/when does a decade start? It's hard for me to cut-off 2009-2010 from the decade.

[1987_Lakers]

Yeah, I was thinking about how to deal with that? Where/when does a decade start? It's hard for me to cut-off 2009-2010 from the decade.

2000-2009

[Yeezy]

Kobe won 4 chips. One of them came in 2010.

I say Duncan was the most consistent throughout the 00's. Shaq was the most dominant, but by '06 his game dropped a considerable amount.

kobe eliminated duncan 4 out of 5 times in the playoffs during the 2000's

[1987_Lakers]

kobe eliminated duncan 4 out of 5 times in the playoffs during the 2000's

3 of those times came with Shaq's help.

[Yeezy]

2001 - kobe shits on duncan
2002 - kobe shits on duncan
2004 - kobe shits on duncan
2008 - kobe shits on duncan



the only time duncan got kobe was when horry shit the bed shooting 0 for 20 from 3 and missing the game tieing shot to ruin the series


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF1uYujpHB0

[Yeezy]

3 of those times came with Shaq's help.

kobe led the lakers every single time lol

[Phoenix]

I'll vote for Shaq or Duncan, just for seeing Kenny meltdown over Kobe getting the least votes on a message board from posters whose opinions he claims to not care about.

[Im Still Ballin]

Hot take: after those three players, LeBron was the next best of the decade.

Peep the resume:

- 2 MVPs (3 Sporting News MVPs)
- 1 Finals appearance
- 4x All-NBA 1st team
- 2x All-NBA 2nd team
- ROY (2004)
- Scoring title
- Runner-up DPOY (2009)
- 2x best regular season record (2009, 2010)

(Includes 2009-2010)

[Yeezy]

2001 lakers spurs series:

Kobe - 33/7/7 on 51% ( led all players )

2002 lakers spurs series:

kobe - 26/5/5 on 45% ( led all players )

2003 lakers spurs series:

kobe - 32/5/4 on 43% ( led all players )

2004 lakers spurs series:

kobe - 26/6/6 on 46% ( led all players )

2008 - lakers spurs series:

kobe - 29/6/4 on 53% ( led all players )





this is a joke

[Phoenix]

Tim Duncan.

[StrongLurk]

It's probably Kobe since that is basically his absolute prime/peak. Shaq has the highest peak, but the dude was drafted in 92...Duncan was obviously great as well but not better than Kobe in my opinion.

[Yeezy]

I'll vote for Shaq or Duncan, just for seeing Kenny meltdown over Kobe getting the least votes on a message board from posters whose opinions he claims to not care about.

used to people here voting for the wrong guys just to stick it to me. i'm too polarizing for you guys.


i've traumatized you people. you'll be here 20 years from now voting kobe out of the top 20 all time and 7th best of the 2000's

[1987_Lakers]

kobe led the lakers every single time lol

What help did Duncan have? Did he have a Shaq like teammate during those years? Tony Parker was the Spurs 2nd best player in the '02 series who averaged 14 ppg on 41 fg%.

Duncan took a massive dump on Kobe in '03 despite Shaq averaging 25/14/4 in that series.

Regardless, it looks like Duncan is winning this poll.

Forget the GOAT convo, Kobe wasn't even the best player of his era.

Deal with it.

[Xiao Yao You]

I wonder who the 1 Kobe vote is from? :oldlol:

[Yeezy]

lol@ 7 votes for duncan... oh well threads finished. everyone go home. another alt/troll fest just for damage control cause lebron sucks so gotta take it out on kobe


you guys will never get laid :lol

[Yeezy]

I wonder who the 1 Kobe vote is from? :oldlol:

i wonder. you people can't fix lebrons broken legacy with these threads. we're a group of maybe 15 people with 50 alts from steven/1987lakers


the boards dead. ISH is finished. thats why they keep begging me to come back and let me do whatever i want

[Im Still Ballin]

1a) Shaq
1b) Duncan
1c) Kobe
2) LeBron
3) Garnett
4) Dirk
5) Nash
6) Wade

How's that look?

[1987_Lakers]

i wonder. you people can't fix lebrons broken legacy with these threads. we're a group of maybe 15 people with 50 alts from steven/1987lakers


the boards dead. ISH is finished. thats why they keep begging me to come back and let me do whatever i want

I voted Duncan, but only once.

I'm sorry most people here agree with me.

Deal with it.

[SouBeachTalents]

1a) Shaq
1b) Duncan
1c) Kobe
2) LeBron
3) Garnett
4) Dirk
5) Nash
6) Wade

How's that look?
Even with the two MVP's, I can't put Nash over Wade. Besides that, I'd agree with the rest.

[Yeezy]

1a) Shaq
1b) Duncan
1c) Kobe
2) LeBron
3) Garnett
4) Dirk
5) Nash
6) Wade

How's that look?


how does this look

https://i.ibb.co/2N9xvf6/Screen-Shot-2022-12-27-at-11-56-19-AM.png

kobe already won these awards.. everyones opinion in hindsight after realizing they hate one guy more than the other 2 is irrelevant

[zeerghit]

i wonder. you people can't fix lebrons broken legacy with these threads. we're a group of maybe 15 people with 50 alts from steven/1987lakers


the boards dead. ISH is finished. thats why they keep begging me to come back and let me do whatever i want
this make absolutely no sense

[Yeezy]

this make absolutely no sense

boards finished


only reason i keep coming back is to laugh at how pathetic it is

[Phoenix]

used to people here voting for the wrong guys just to stick it to me. i'm too polarizing for you guys.


i've traumatized you people. you'll be here 20 years from now voting kobe out of the top 20 all time and 7th best of the 2000's

Going with Tim Duncan on this one.

[Hey Yo]

2001 - kobe shits on duncan
2002 - kobe shits on duncan
2004 - kobe shits on duncan
2008 - kobe shits on duncan



the only time duncan got kobe was when horry shit the bed shooting 0 for 20 from 3 and missing the game tieing shot to ruin the series


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF1uYujpHB0

Spurs had a geriatric back court in 2001 with Ferry and Avery Johnson

[zeerghit]

boards finished


only reason i keep coming back is to laugh at how pathetic it is

u mean u let us laugh at you?

[Yeezy]

Going with Tim Duncan on this one.

its sad that you think i would care more about what you think than the consensus public/player opinion. hell kobe even got the media vote

:lol

[Yeezy]

u mean u let us laugh at you?

damn bro. how long did it take you to think of that comeback

[1987_Lakers]

used to people here voting for the wrong guys just to stick it to me. i'm too polarizing for you guys.


i've traumatized you people. you'll be here 20 years from now voting kobe out of the top 20 all time and 7th best of the 2000's

It's not out of the question, you have guys like Curry & KD quickly catching up to Kobe. Then you have guys like Giannis, Jokic, & Luka who have a real shot at Kobe. Who knows, 20 years from now Wembanyama will be in the top 5 GOAT convo. Kobe 20 years from now might be where Moses Malone is usually ranked today.

[Phoenix]

its sad that you think i would care more about what you think than the consensus public/player opinion. hell kobe even got the media vote

:lol

You care enough to no doubt have the most posts in the thread, an alt/troll fest' by your own word, bitching at every vote for anyone other than Kobe. You could just as easily shut up and move on, but you can't, and you won't.

:lol

[iamgine]

If we consider impact for the sport as a criteria, Kobe might get it. He was way more famous than Duncan or Shaq and influenced entire generation of ballers.

[Yeezy]

You care enough to no doubt have the most posts in the thread, an alt/troll fest' by your own word, bitching at every vote for anyone other than Kobe. You could just as easily shut up and move on, but you can't, and you won't.

:lol

i'm the only kobe fan that hasn't been banned or left this place for good. you're a joke forum. poor representation


anger general is more balanced. i'd go back there but i posted a mods pics on a gay dating website

[Phoenix]

So Kenny so far has 14/37 posts in this thread. Sounds like a Kobe finals performance.

Edit: 15/39 :oldlol:

[1987_Lakers]

If we consider impact for the sport as a criteria, Kobe might get it. He was way more famous than Duncan or Shaq and influenced entire generation of ballers.

If we consider impact on the sport, Dr. J would probably be ranked ahead of Kareem for the 70's. Good thing we are going by what happened on the basketball court.

[Yeezy]

So Kenny so far has 14/37 posts in this thread. Sounds like a Kobe finals performance.

Edit: 15/39 :oldlol:

you guys always try and mock me for the amount of posts i make yet i've been gone for entire years like 4 or 5 times


after a week or 2 you might not see me till 2025

[Phoenix]

you guys always try and mock me for the amount of posts i make yet i've been gone for entire years like 4 or 5 times


after a week or 2 you might not see me till 2025

And when you come back you post 57.22 times a day :lol

[Round Mound]

Peak: Shaq
Overall In The Decade: Duncan

[Yeezy]

And when you come back you post 57.22 times a day :lol

and? i'm retired. i have unlimited free time. its not like my posts are that detailed. they take 5 seconds to type usually


my 57 posts probably take a grand total of 5 minutes... reading the posts i'm replying to probly takes another 5 minutes out of my day


you know i have like 17 hours to waste right?

[Yeezy]

Peak: Shaq
Overall In The Decade: Duncan

halfway through the decade tony parker and manu took over the spurs

:oldlol:

[Phoenix]

and? i'm retired. i have unlimited free time. its not like my posts are that detailed. they take 5 seconds to type usually


my 57 posts probably take a grand total of 5 minutes... reading the posts i'm replying to probly takes another 5 minutes out of my day


you know i have like 17 hours to waste right?

And you choose to spend your retired time posting 57 time daily on an alt/troll fest board that doesn't support your positions and you claim to hate. :lol

[1987_Lakers]

halfway through the decade tony parker and manu took over the spurs

:oldlol:

Kobe spent half of the decade being a 2nd option.

[Yeezy]

And you choose to spend your retired time posting 57 time daily on an alt/troll fest board that doesn't support your positions and you claim to hate. :lol

i dunno what else you would like me to do. go on a skii trip? what about when i get back. should i host a big party every day lol

i don't think you realize how much time there is in a day when you don't have to work for money


and back when i worked i just played on my phone half the time anyway. i'd probly just be posting on here or watching movies if the job was laid back

[Yeezy]

Kobe spent half of the decade being a 2nd option.

lakers leader in FGA's

2001 - kobe
2002 - kobe
2003 - kobe
2004 - kobe
2005 - kobe
2006 - kobe
2007 - kobe
2008 - kobe
2009 - kobe
2010 - kobe

lakers leader in ppg

2001 - shaq
2002 - shaq
2003 - kobe
2004 - kobe
2005 - kobe
2006 - kobe
2007 - kobe
2008 - kobe
2009 - kobe
2010 - kobe

https://media.tenor.com/AMQ8o6nQprcAAAAC/kazoo-kid-wow.gif

[1987_Lakers]

Here are Kobe's finals stats

2000 - 15.6 ppg | 39 fg%

2001 - 24 ppg | 41.5 fg% | 50 TS%

2002 - 27 ppg | 51 fg% | 62 TS%

2004 - 23 ppg | 38 fg% | 46 TS%

2008 - 26 ppg | 40.1 fg% | 50.5 TS%

2009 - 32 ppg | 43 fg% | 52.5 TS%

2010 - 29 ppg | 40.1 fg% | 52.8 TS%



Here are Kobe's game seven stats.

44.2 MPG

22.2 points

FG 38.9%

FT 67.3%

8 RPG

5 APG

1 SPG

1.3 BPG





Here are Kobe's stats when facing elimination.



22.3 PPG

5.8 RPG


3.5 APG

1.3 SPG

1.3 BPG

on a 50.3 TS

and his teams went 9-10 in those games.

"Player of the decade"

https://media.tenor.com/AMQ8o6nQprcAAAAC/kazoo-kid-wow.gif

[Yeezy]

Here are Kobe's finals stats

2000 - 15.6 ppg | 39 fg%

2001 - 24 ppg | 41.5 fg% | 50 TS%

2002 - 27 ppg | 51 fg% | 62 TS%

2004 - 23 ppg | 38 fg% | 46 TS%

2008 - 26 ppg | 40.1 fg% | 50.5 TS%

2009 - 32 ppg | 43 fg% | 52.5 TS%

2010 - 29 ppg | 40.1 fg% | 52.8 TS%



Here are Kobe's game seven stats.

44.2 MPG

22.2 points

FG 38.9%

FT 67.3%

8 RPG

5 APG

1 SPG

1.3 BPG





Here are Kobe's stats when facing elimination.



22.3 PPG

5.8 RPG


3.5 APG

1.3 SPG

1.3 BPG

on a 50.3 TS

and his teams went 9-10 in those games.

"Player of the decade"

https://media.tenor.com/AMQ8o6nQprcAAAAC/kazoo-kid-wow.gif



as i said before i made a thread proving that finals stats went up over the years after defense was slowly taken out of the game and every big perimeter scorer had percentages like kobes through those same years and prior. i listed everyone from 96 to 2021 i think but you deleted the thread cause you got mad

[Phoenix]

Tim Duncan with a commanding lead so far.

[AlternativeAcc.]

If we're being honest, LeBron had the most impact on his teams. Didn't play the whole decade but won MVPs and carried dog shit rosters while being the best player for several years of the decade. He gets my nod

1. LeBron
2. Shaq
3. Duncan
4. Garnett
5. Kidd/Nash/Dirk

[Yeezy]

Tim Duncan with a commanding lead so far.

you can't win this. ISH doesn't have any reach outside of 15 complete losers and a part time retired kobe fan that mocks them once a year for 2 weeks

[1987_Lakers]

you can't win this. ISH doesn't have any reach outside of 15 complete losers and a part time retired kobe fan that mocks them once a year for 2 weeks

You think this is only on ISH?

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=1248224

The most respected basketball forum also feels it's Duncan.

[Phoenix]

you can't win this. ISH doesn't have any reach outside of 15 complete losers and a part time retired kobe fan that mocks them once a year for 2 weeks

It's an alt troll fest, remember? Winning or losing anything on this forum doesn't have any reach.

Tim Duncan expanding that lead. :applause:

[FKAri]

It's close but I'd pick Kobe

[ShawkFactory]

Probably Kobe. His peak years coincided exactly with the decade, which is fortunate for him.

Shaq, Duncan, and Lebron all had their primes/peaks overlap with other decades.

[SouBeachTalents]

Probably Kobe. His peak years coincided exactly with the decade, which is fortunate for him.

Shaq, Duncan, and Lebron all had their primes/peaks overlap with other decades.
You don't think Duncan's peak coincided within the decade, and essentially all of his prime minus the '99 season? You could argue Kobe had more prime seasons (2010-13) outside the 2000's than Duncan did.

[ShawkFactory]

You don't think Duncan's peak coincided within the decade, and essentially all of his prime minus the '99 season? You could argue Kobe had more prime seasons (2010-13) outside the 2000's than Duncan did.

It's obviously very close between them. But a ring + FMVP + 2 top 5 MVP finishes being in a different decade shifts it ever so slightly for me.

[Full Court]

Duncan. Shaq was the most dominant as a few have already said, but Duncan owned the 00s.

[RRR3]

Hot take: after those three players, LeBron was the next best of the decade.

Peep the resume:

- 2 MVPs (3 Sporting News MVPs)
- 1 Finals appearance
- 4x All-NBA 1st team
- 2x All-NBA 2nd team
- ROY (2004)
- Scoring title
- Runner-up DPOY (2009)
- 2x best regular season record (2009, 2010)

(Includes 2009-2010)
2009-10 wouldn’t count. LeBron only had one year of his prime in that decade (2009)

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

It's a tossup, but I'd lean Duncan if only for 2003.

That playoff run was the ULTIMATE carry job.

You might argue Shaq had just as heavy a burden in 2000, but Timmy dethroning LA was about as impressive a series you're gonna find.

[Axe]

Duncan had been to the playoffs every year bt.

[SaltyMeatballs]

Duncan had the most successful 2000s but I think Kobe was the face of the 2000s. When you think of that decade, Kobe is the first guy to come to mind imo

[gbaLL]

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/80/d2/8e/80d28e88166f64947984d759e286ade9.jpg

[HoopsNY]

It's a tossup, but I'd lean Duncan if only for 2003.

That playoff run was the ULTIMATE carry job.

You might argue Shaq had just as heavy a burden in 2000, but Timmy dethroning LA was about as impressive a series you're gonna find.

It's a tough question actually. For one, Kobe and Shaq played together, so the question itself is unfair. Shaq definitely has it from 2000-02, though Kobe basically being a 1b in 2001 helps his case.

Duncan has it from 2003-07, I'd say. And then Kobe has 2008 and 2009. But given that Duncan basically has 5 of the 10 seasons, it's hard to say it's not Duncan.

[3ba11]

Kobe easily

He won 2 titles without the kind of help that Shaq and Duncan needed

[kawhileonard2]

Let's tally up:

Shaq:
- 4 championships
- 3 FMVPs
- 1 MVP (2 Sporting News MVPs)
- 5 Finals appearances

Duncan:
- 3 championships
- 2 FMVPs
- 2 MVPs
- 3 Finals appearances

Kobe:
- 5 championships
- 2 FMVPs
- 1 MVP
- 7 Finals appearances

Good way!

[Phoenix]

Tim Duncan with an overwhelming lead.

[Axe]

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/80/d2/8e/80d28e88166f64947984d759e286ade9.jpg
Nay.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

It's a tough question actually. For one, Kobe and Shaq played together, so the question itself is unfair. Shaq definitely has it from 2000-02, though Kobe basically being a 1b in 2001 helps his case.

Duncan has it from 2003-07, I'd say. And then Kobe has 2008 and 2009. But given that Duncan basically has 5 of the 10 seasons, it's hard to say it's not Duncan.

Agreed.

I think Kobe's prime was definitely the longest, but Duncan's had a bit more impact. Not in brand or global sales, but with individual play (especially in the postseason) that contributed in team success.

Timmy's peak was even better although not quite Shaq level.

[Yeezy]

2000-2009

1999-00 is part of the 90s. there is no year 0. the start of any decade is the number 1

2010 is the 10th year of the 2000s

[red1]

voted duncan