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coastalmarker99
12-28-2022, 05:37 AM
Here are Kobe's averages across the board in-game sevens and elimination games.

Game sevens

22.2 PPG (Regular season career average is 25.0 ppg)

8.0 RPG (Regular season career average is 5.2 rpg)

5.0 APG (Regular season career average is 4.7 APG)

1.3 BPG (Regular season career average is 0.5 BPG)

1.0 SPG (Regular season career average is 1.4 SPG)

FG% 38.9% (Regular season career average is 44.7%)

FT% 67.3%(Regular season career average is 83.7%)


Elimination games
9 10 W-L record

22.3 PPG (Regular season career average is 25.0 ppg)

5.8 RPG (Regular season career average is 5.2 rpg)

3.5 APG (Regular season career average is 4.7 APG)

1.3 BPG (Regular season career average is 0.5 BPG)

1.3 SPG (Regular season career average is 1.4 SPG)

FG 44.0%(Regular season career average is 44.7%)

TS% 50.3 (Regular season career average is 55.0%)


Here are Jerry West's game seven averages

4- 5 W-L record

30.9 PPG (Regular season career average is 27.0 ppg)

7.7 RPG (Regular season career average is 5.8 rpg)

6.8 APG (Regular season career average is 6.7 APG)

47.9 FG% (Regular season career average is 47.4 FG%)

TS% 54.3 Regular season career average is 54.9 TS%)


Here are Jerry West's elimination games averages

13 11 W-L record

29.3 PPG (Regular season career average is 27.0 ppg)

6.4 RPG (Regular season career average is 5.8 rpg)

6.4 APG (Regular season career average is 6.7 APG)

55% TS (Regular season career average is 54.9 TS%)



Here are Tim Duncan game seven averages

4 2 W-L record

24.7 PPG (Regular season career average is 19.0 ppg)

11.8 RPG (Regular season career average is 10.8 rpg)

2.7 APG (Regular season career average is 3.0 APG)

1.3 BPG (Regular season career average is 2.2 BPG)

FG% 48.2% Regular season career average is 50.6%)


Here are Tim Duncan's elimination game averages

7 13 W-L record

22.3 PPG (Regular season career average is 19.0 ppg)

11.6 RPG (Regular season career average is 10.8 rpg)

2.8 APG (Regular season career average is 3.0 APG)

1.8 BPG (Regular season career average is 2.2 BPG)

FG% 48.2% Regular season career average is 50.6%)



Here are Shaq's averages across the board in-game sevens and elimination games.

Game sevens

26.4 PPG (Regular season career average is 23.7 ppg)

10.5 RPG (Regular season career average is 10.9 rpg)

2.5 APG (Regular season career average is 2.5 APG)

2.5 BPG (Regular season career average is 2.3 BPG)

0.5 SPG (Regular season career average is 0.6 SPG)

FG% 58.8% (Regular season career average is 58.2%)


Elimination games

6 12 W-L record

25.3 PPG (Regular season career average is 23.7 ppg)

10.9 RPG (Regular season career average is 10.9 rpg)

2.0 APG (Regular season career average is 2.5 APG)

1.9 BPG (Regular season career average is 2.3 BPG)

0.6 SPG (Regular season career average is 0.6 SPG)

TS% 57.4% (Regular season career average is 58.6%)



Here are Lebron's averages across the board in-game sevens and elimination games.

Elimination games

15 10 W-L record

33.48 PPG (Regular season career average is 27.0 ppg)

10.76 RPG (Regular season career average is 7.4 rpg)

7.4 APG (Regular season career average is 7.4 APG)

1.0 BPG (Regular season career average is 0.7 BPG)

1.6 STL (Regular season career average is 1.6 STL)

FG% 48.8% Regular season career average is 50.4%)


Game sevens

6 2 W-L record

34.87 PPG (Regular season career average is 27.0 ppg)

9.87 RPG (Regular season career average is 7.4 rpg)

5.6 APG (Regular season career average is 7.4 APG)

0.8 BPG (Regular season career average is 0.7 BPG)

1.7 STL(Regular season career average is 1.6 STL)

3.6 TOV Regular season career average is 3.5 TOV)

FG% 48.7% Regular season career average is 50.4%)



Here are Wilt's game seven averages

4- 5 W-L record

24.4 ppg (Regular season career average was 30.1 ppg)

26.7 rpg(Regular season career average was 22.9 rpg)

4.1 APG(Regular season career average was 4.4 APG)

62.6 FG%,(Regular season career average was .54.0 FG%)

45.1 FT%(Regular season career average was .51.1 FT%)

57.9 TS%.Regular season career average was 54.9 TS%)


Here are Wilt's numbers in 23 of his elimination games in the postseason...13 of which came against HOF starting centers.

12-11 W-L record

31.1 ppg (Regular season career average was 30.1 ppg)

26.1 rpg (Regular season career average was 22.9 rpg)

3.4 APG (Regular season career average was 4.4 APG)

54.0 FG% (Regular season career average was .54.0 FG%)
coastalmarker99
12-28-2022, 05:40 AM
Here are Hakeem's averages in game sevens

27.2 PPG (Regular season career average is 21.8 ppg)

13.6 RPG (Regular season career average is 11.1 rpg)

5.2 APG (Regular season career average is 2.5 APG)

2.0 BPG (Regular season career average is 2.2 BPG)

1.4 SPG (Regular season career average is 1.7 SPG)

FG% 49.6% (Regular season career average is 51.2%)


Here are Hakeem's averages in elimination games.

19 13 W-L record

24.0 PPG (Regular season career average is 21.8 ppg)

11.5 RPG (Regular season career average is 11.1 rpg)

3.1 APG (Regular season career average is 2.5 APG)

2.9 BPG (Regular season career average is 2.2 BPG)

3.2 SPG (Regular season career average is 1.7 SPG)

FG% 53.1% (Regular season career average is 51.2%)



Here are Bird's averages across the board in-game sevens and elimination games.

Game sevens

27.0 PPG (Regular season career average is 24.3 ppg)

9.3 RPG (Regular season career average is 10.0 rpg)

6.8 APG (Regular season career average is 6.3 APG)

1.3 BPG (Regular season career average is 0.8 BPG)

1.4 SPG (Regular season career average is 1.7 SPG)

FG% 49.7% (Regular season career average is 49.6%)


Elimination games.

9 7 W-L record

24.3 PPG (Regular season career average is 24.3 ppg)

9.2 RPG (Regular season career average is 10.0 rpg)

6.2 APG (Regular season career average is 6.3 APG)

0.8 BPG (Regular season career average is 0.8 BPG)

1.5 SPG (Regular season career average is 1.7 SPG)

TS% 53.5(Regular season career average is 56.4%)




Here are Jordan averages across the board in-game sevens and elimination games



Game sevens

33.7 PPG (Regular season career average is 30.1 ppg)

7.7 RPG (Regular season career average is 6.2 rpg)

7.0 APG (Regular season career average is 5.3 APG)

1.0 BPG (Regular season career average is 0.8 BPG)

1.0 SPG (Regular season career average is 2.3 SPG)

FG% 45.7% (Regular season career average is 49.7%)



Elimination games

5 7 W-L record

31.0 PPG (Regular season career average is 30.1 ppg)

7.9 RPG (Regular season career average is 6.2 rpg)

7.0 APG (Regular season career average is 5.3 APG)

1.3 BPG (Regular season career average is 0.8 BPG)

1.8 SPG (Regular season career average is 2.3 SPG)

TS% 53.8% (Regular season career average is 56.9%)
coastalmarker99
12-28-2022, 05:47 AM
Note: I'm not trying to hate/attack on Kobe

But it must be acknowledged Kobe had a shocking decline in game sevens and elimination games compared to other all-time greats.

So that may be one key reason as to why he is usually not ranked as a top ten player of all time.
davidkimchi
12-28-2022, 06:08 AM
Note: I'm not trying to hate/attack on Kobe

But it must be acknowledged Kobe had a shocking decline in game sevens and elimination games compared to other all-time greats.

So that may be one key reason as to why he is usually not ranked as a top ten player of all time.

I think Kobe is top 10 for sure. I see lots of people place him 12 or 13th though
coastalmarker99
12-28-2022, 06:18 AM
I think Kobe is top 10 for sure. I see lots of people place him 12 or 13th though

I think he is just outside the top 10 — Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Shaq, MJ, Lebron, Magic, Bird, Duncan, and Hakeem are all better than him in my eyes.
davidkimchi
12-28-2022, 06:22 AM
I think he is just outside the top 10 — Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Shaq, MJ, Lebron, Magic, Bird, Duncan, and Hakeem are all better than him in my eyes.

Fair enough. That is a strong top 10 list.
Akeem34TheDream
12-28-2022, 10:02 AM
Why did you leave out game seven W/L records for some of them?
Yeezy
12-28-2022, 10:06 AM
OP is steve/1987_Lakers


this is damage control for this

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?508836-proof-kobes-finals-stats-were-normal-for-the-era-for-perimeter-scorers


OP stayed up all night making this

:roll:
Kblaze8855
12-28-2022, 10:07 AM
So that may be one key reason as to why he is usually not ranked as a top ten player of all time.

Nah. Normal people don’t keep up with things like that and even the “experts” who might be aware wouldn’t cite it in an explanation.
Yeezy
12-28-2022, 10:09 AM
heres another good stat

50+ win teams eliminated:


Kobe - 24
Jordan - 20
Lebron - 14


:lol



oh yeah and finals records


Jordan: 6 - 0
Kobe: 5 - 2
Lebron: 4 - 6 ( 2 - 8 without bailouts )
Yeezy
12-28-2022, 10:12 AM
heres more good stats OP

2004 bronze, lottery

2005 lottery

2006 bronze

2007 swept in finals on 35%

2008 saved by kobe for the gold and makes a movie about it

2009 spanked by Dwight Howard with home court

2010 quitting on a franchise, the decision

2011 owned by jj bare on a super team

2012 lockout title with a big 3 collusion

2013 all time worst shooting. saved by Ray allen, linked to steroid clinic

2014 all time biggest finals best down. quits on franchise

2015 another all time worst shooting performance, 2nd trip to steroid clinic, shows p*nis on tv

2016 colluded big 3. colluded suspension to draymond. saved by kyrie

2017 series swining dagger hit in your face

2018 swept in finals. soft picked for another dagger, anti-Semitic comments

2019 activating playoff move for the lottery, sells out to china

2020 bubble 5 month break davis theft no fans no parade Disney ring

2021 spanked by devin booker. accused of rape/trafficking women

2022 lottery with big 3

2023 lottery while passing Kareem with PED needle in his ass in a sloth league with no defense


https://media.tenor.com/CtIDj-SDq6sAAAAC/ali-laughing.gif
Rysio
12-28-2022, 03:38 PM
Kobes only true failure in an elimination games came vs celtics game 7 but lakers won lol him not having pretty stats when he didn't really fail much shouldn't take him out of top 10.
AlternativeAcc.
12-28-2022, 03:45 PM
Unreal. He sucked in the only games that mattered. Was used as a marketing ploy by the NBA. Should've been banished from the league after the rape scandal, but instead they turned him into a heel and profited further.
Yeezy
12-28-2022, 03:47 PM
Unreal. He sucked in the only games that mattered. Was used as a marketing ploy by the NBA. Should've been banished from the league after the rape scandal, but instead they turned him into a heel and profited further.

nobody really bit on this thread. you were up pretty late making it. guess you don't have the same pull around here as me. get better kid
1987_Lakers
12-28-2022, 03:51 PM
OP is steve/1987_Lakers


this is damage control for this

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?508836-proof-kobes-finals-stats-were-normal-for-the-era-for-perimeter-scorers


OP stayed up all night making this

:roll:

You are so in denial that alot of people don't view Kobe in the same light that you do that you actually believe all these negative Kobe threads/posts are from the same person.

Unbelievable. :oldlol:
AlternativeAcc.
12-28-2022, 04:03 PM
You are so in denial that alot of people don't view Kobe in the same light that you do that you actually believe all these negative Kobe threads/posts are from the same person.

Unbelievable. :oldlol:
Its believable to me

He's a schizophrenic loner. His intelligence is closer to monkey than human