Reasons why LeBron James is the greatest player in history (feel free to add to list)

[lebronlover69]

LeBron James is the greatest basketball player in history.
There are countless reasons and honestly I can go on for days and days writing up countless paragraphs, but i am a bit sleepy, and i want you guys to contribute to this thread too, so i will keep it short for now.

- 2016, LeBron James did the impossible and overcame a 3-1 deficit in the nba finals which has never been done before, defeating the 73-9 Golden State Warriors who have been compared to the Bulls in 96. LeBron single handedly broke the 52 year championship drought in Cleaveland.
-LeBron James needs 575 points to surpass Abdul-Jabbar's career total of 38,387.
-four NBA championships, four Finals MVPs, four NBA MVPs, 17 All-NBA selections, 17 All-Star selections, the 2003-04 Rookie of the Year award and three All-Star MVPs, too
Two Olympic Gold medals

Feel free to add the reasons why LeBron is the GOAT. I can think of at least 100 more things, but I want you guys to contribute too

[BigShotBob]

What happened in 2011?

[Full Court]

OP is in sore need of education. But he's in luck since I'm here to educate Bronie fluffers.

Lebron, also known as LeShrivel for his propensity to choke, is the undisputed GOAT of turnovers.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500400-Lebron-is-the-GOAT!-of-turnovers

[ImKobe]

He wasn't the first player to overcome a 3 - 1 lead & win a championship. GSW were no '96 Bulls and no one with any basketball knowledge would put that team on the same level. Kyrie played an equal part in the comeback and hit the greatest shot in Cavs history.

All-time scoring record is a great testament to his longevity but barely anyone had Kareem as the GOAT as the scoring leader, despite him being the GOAT College player + having 6 rings & 6 MVPs.

There's a pretty long list of players that have won more titles than him & he has a losing record in the Finals (22 - 33) and is a -86 in the Finals overall. Played in the WOAT Conference to get 9 of the 10 appearances and even the run he had out West was during lockdown with 0 fans and 3 out of 4 opponents were injured + AD carried him for the most part until Adebayo got injured in the Finals.


There's no overcoming MJ's dominance in the RS + Playoffs. Bran had plenty of shortcomings while MJ's happened before his prime. Hard to beat 6 rings & 0 Finals losses and Jordan was arguably the best player in the league from 86-98 while Bran was maybe the best player in the league 3 or 4 seasons in total.

[Yeezy]

OP forgot this

2004 - Bronze/lottery

2005 - Lottery

2006 - bronze #2

2007 - swept in finals on 35%fgs

2008 - admittedly needed kobe to teach him how to be a man and save his ass vs Spain

2009 - beat down by Dwight Howard with HC advantage

2010 - the decision after quitting on Cleveland

2011 - owned by jj barea in the finals

2012 - colluded big 3 lockout title

2012 - refusing to pay for custom birthday cake

2013 - linked to the biogenesis clinic for PEDs

2013 - shot 29% outside of 5 feet, saved by Ray allen

2014 - worst beat down in finals history. largest margin of defeat. lost finals mvp to a role player

2014 - collusion phone call with Kevin love to tamper with Wiggins trade before eligible

2015 - accused of going back to the same Miami clinic

2015 - exposes p*nis on national TV to children

2015 - another 30% shooting performance outside of 5 feet

2016 - collusion phone call with Adam silver to get draymond suspended

2016 - saved by kyrie irving

2017 - saying he never went bald like MJ with obvious hair plugs

2017 - game 3 series swinging winner hit in his face by durant

2018 - antisemitic remarks

2018 - admits he hated white people growing up

2018 - faking a hand injury with a fake cast during the post game questions

2018 - swept in finals, soft picked off durant in game 3

2019 - calling himself the greatest ever on the shop

2019 - klutch sports tampering violation with Anthony davis

2019/21 - pro China rhetoric/dismissing human rights violations

2020 - bubble ring with no fans or travel on a Disney practice court with davis owning the entire season and playoffs and only finally showing up for the finals when the Lakers faced the 5th seed Miami heat with key injuries.

2020 - preaches anti white Malcom X rhetoric while not actually knowing anything in the book he's holding

2021 - accused by cappie pondexter for human trafficking

2021 - space Jam 2 box office failure/razzie award for worst actor. lost hundreds of millions for producers

2022 - lottery

2023 - lottery



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:roll:

[Axe]

GSW were no '96 Bulls
Pretty sure they were better than any teams jordan faced in the finals.

[BigShotBob]

Pretty sure they were better than any teams jordan faced in the finals.

MJ is not losing to the Warriors if that's what you're implying

[Axe]

MJ (with scottie pippen ofc) is not losing to the Warriors if that's what you're implying
Ftfy

[ImKobe]

Pretty sure they were better than any teams jordan faced in the finals.

Nope. '93 Suns were just as great if you're going to compare the talent on those teams.

[BigShotBob]

Ftfy

Is MJ losing with Kyrie and Kevin Love?

[Axe]

Nope. '93 Suns were just as great if you're going to compare the talent on those teams.
But that team didn't win 70 games in the rs, so... They're not perceived as invincible as the 2016 western champs were bt.

[Axe]

Is MJ losing with Kyrie and Kevin Love?
Depends if he entirely hogs the ball or not.

[lebronlover69]

OP forgot this

2004 - Bronze/lottery

2005 - Lottery

2006 - bronze #2

2007 - swept in finals on 35%fgs

2008 - admittedly needed kobe to teach him how to be a man and save his ass vs Spain

2009 - beat down by Dwight Howard with HC advantage

2010 - the decision after quitting on Cleveland

2011 - owned by jj barea in the finals

2012 - colluded big 3 lockout title

2012 - refusing to pay for custom birthday cake

2013 - linked to the biogenesis clinic for PEDs

2013 - shot 29% outside of 5 feet, saved by Ray allen

2014 - worst beat down in finals history. largest margin of defeat. lost finals mvp to a role player

2014 - collusion phone call with Kevin love to tamper with Wiggins trade before eligible

2015 - accused of going back to the same Miami clinic

2015 - exposes p*nis on national TV to children

2015 - another 30% shooting performance outside of 5 feet

2016 - collusion phone call with Adam silver to get draymond suspended

2016 - saved by kyrie irving

2017 - saying he never went bald like MJ with obvious hair plugs

2017 - game 3 series swinging winner hit in his face by durant

2018 - antisemitic remarks

2018 - admits he hated white people growing up

2018 - faking a hand injury with a fake cast during the post game questions

2018 - swept in finals, soft picked off durant in game 3

2019 - calling himself the greatest ever on the shop

2019 - klutch sports tampering violation with Anthony davis

2019/21 - pro China rhetoric/dismissing human rights violations

2020 - bubble ring with no fans or travel on a Disney practice court with davis owning the entire season and playoffs and only finally showing up for the finals when the Lakers faced the 5th seed Miami heat with key injuries.

2020 - preaches anti white Malcom X rhetoric while not actually knowing anything in the book he's holding

2021 - accused by cappie pondexter for human trafficking

2021 - space Jam 2 box office failure/razzie award for worst actor. lost hundreds of millions for producers

2022 - lottery

2023 - lottery



https://globalnews.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/lebron-jr-smith-cropped.jpg?quality=85&strip=all&w=720&h=379&crop=1


:roll:
A lot of the things you listed have nothing to do with basketball or LeBron's greatness.
Also, the same thing can be done to literally any player, if you put them under a microscope and judge them harshly, you can make anyone look bad.

[lebronlover69]

Nope. '93 Suns were just as great if you're going to compare the talent on those teams.

You made some good points in this thread.
Just curious, are you a LeBron fan or hater? I see you have his photo as your picture, but i see you also discrediting LeBron in many other threads. Or are you somewhere in between

[Yeezy]

A lot of the things you listed have nothing to do with basketball or LeBron's greatness.
Also, the same thing can be done to literally any player, if you put them under a microscope and judge them harshly, you can make anyone look bad.


all of these things are basketball related

2004 - Bronze/lottery

2005 - Lottery

2006 - bronze #2

2007 - swept in finals on 35%fgs

2008 - admittedly needed kobe to teach him how to be a man and save his ass vs Spain

2009 - beat down by Dwight Howard with HC advantage


2011 - owned by jj barea in the finals

2012 - colluded big 3 lockout title

2013 - linked to the biogenesis clinic for PEDs

2013 - shot 29% outside of 5 feet, saved by Ray allen

2014 - worst beat down in finals history. largest margin of defeat. lost finals mvp to a role player

2014 - collusion phone call with Kevin love to tamper with Wiggins trade before eligible

2015 - accused of going back to the same Miami clinic

2015 - another 30% shooting performance outside of 5 feet

2015 - loses finals mvp to a role player

2016 - collusion phone call with Adam silver to get draymond suspended

2016 - saved by kyrie irving


2017 - game 3 series swinging winner hit in his face by durant



2018 - swept in finals, soft picked off durant in game 3

2019 - lottery

2019 - klutch sports tampering violation with Anthony davis


2020 - bubble ring with no fans or travel on a Disney practice court with davis owning the entire season and playoffs and only finally showing up for the finals when the Lakers faced the 5th seed Miami heat with key injuries.


2022 - lottery

2023 - lottery

[Yeezy]

the same thing can be done to literally any player

i guess you're right :(



kobe:


1997 - missed late threes vs utah as an 18 year old rookie cause he was the only one brave enough to shoot

1998 - didn't win allstar mvp because he was benched

1999 - couldn't beat sanantonio because shaq wet the bed and played worse than kobe

2000 - couldn't save every game for shaq. just game 7 vs portland and game 4 vs indiana

2001 - couldn't win finals mvp after averaging 29/7/6 in the post season

2002 - ditto after carrying shaq past duncan again

2003 - couldn't beat the spurs after dropping 36/7/6 that night cause horry bricks his 20th of 20 three point attempts for the series

2004 - couldn't beat the greatest defensive team ever after all laker players shot below 40% except shaq who larry brown let get his admittedly

2005 - couldn't make the playoffs after he and odom missed 20 games each

2006 - couldn't beat the suns with kwame/smush/cook/walton while dropping 50 vs suns in a game 6 loss

2007 - ditto

2008 - couldn't beat a colluded big 3 with an organic team that had injurys to bynum and ariza

2009 - could only beat the lame magic team that beat lebron into the ground

2010 - shot poorly like everyone else in game 7 during a defensive war. having a hand in nearly every bucket, rebound in the last 15 minutes

2011 - couldn't beat the mavs with a major knee injury making him play 30mpg all year

2012 - couldn't beat the thunder cause pau gasol choked his free throws

2013 - couldn't beat the spurs because he was on the sideline with an achilles rupture

2014 - couldn't make the playoffs because he missed the entire year with a broken leg and tanking orders

2015 - couldn't play most of the year with shoulder surgery and tanking orders

2016 - forced to take it easy to last out his retirement tour on a broken down body


these are so shameful i tell ya

[RogueBorg]

2022 - lottery


The worst part for Lebron's 2021-'22 season is had 5 teammates including himself that are a lock to make the Hall of Fame and they missed the playoffs.

And, when the NBA does it's 100th Anniversary team Dwight Howard will be on that team, which means the 2021-'22 Lakers will have had 5 Hall of Fame players, all on the NBA's 100th Anniversary team and they didn't make the playoffs. Couldn't get to the 10th seed.

With the NBA switching to a play-in format there has never been a time in league history where it was easier to make the playoffs and a Lebron led team couldn't even do that. Add in that they won't make the play-in in 2023 he's going back-to-back in missing the play-ins. It shall forever be known as the "The Lebron Repeat."

That is almost as big a failure for Lebron as 2011.

[1987_Lakers]

Why does LeBron still shit on Kobe in Finals performance?

LeBron James - 28.4 ppg on 48.4 FG%, 10.2 rpg, 7.5 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.9 bpg

Kobe Bryant - 25.3 ppg on 41.2 FG%, 5.7 rpg, 5.1 apg, 1.8 spg, 0.9 bpg

[RogueBorg]

Why does LeBron still shit on Kobe in Finals performance?

LeBron James - 28.4 ppg on 48.4 FG%, 10.2 rpg, 7.5 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.9 bpg

Kobe Bryant - 25.3 ppg on 41.2 FG%, 5.7 rpg, 5.1 apg, 1.8 spg, 0.9 bpg

Kobe played in a much tougher defensive era. Kobe would average 30+ easily in this wide-open era.

[Hey Yo]

The worst part for Lebron's 2021-'22 season is had 5 teammates including himself that are a lock to make the Hall of Fame and they missed the playoffs.

And, when the NBA does it's 100th Anniversary team Dwight Howard will be on that team, which means the 2021-'22 Lakers will have had 5 Hall of Fame players, all on the NBA's 100th Anniversary team and they didn't make the playoffs. Couldn't get to the 10th seed.

With the NBA switching to a play-in format there has never been a time in league history where it was easier to make the playoffs and a Lebron led team couldn't even do that. Add in that they won't make the play-in in 2023 he's going back-to-back in missing the play-ins. It shall forever be known as the "The Lebron Repeat."

That is almost as big a failure for Lebron as 2011.

Let me know when LeBron could make the playoffs with just 30 wins like MJ did. By far the easiest time to make the playoffs

[Yeezy]

Why does LeBron still shit on Kobe in Finals performance?

LeBron James - 28.4 ppg on 48.4 FG%, 10.2 rpg, 7.5 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.9 bpg

Kobe Bryant - 25.3 ppg on 41.2 FG%, 5.7 rpg, 5.1 apg, 1.8 spg, 0.9 bpg

all finals fg% since 1995 for perimeter/mid range scorers ( proof defense was just better back then )



1995 - drexler: 45.0%
1995 - horry: 43.4%
1995 - Cassell: 42.9%
1995 - smith: 37.9%

1995 - penny: 50.0%
1995 - shaw: 42.6%
1995 - anderson: 36.0%
1995 - scott: 31.0%

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1996 - Jordan: 41.5%
1996 - pippen: 34.3%
1996 - kukoc: 42.3%
1996 - harper: 37.5%
1996 - kerr: 30.3%


1996 - Payton: 44.4%
1996 - schrempf: 44.3%
1996 - hawkins: 45.5%
1996 - perkins: 37.7%
1996 - mcmillin: 42.9%

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1997 - jordan: 45.6%
1997 - pippen: 42.1%
1997 - kukoc: 40.5%
1997 - harper: 34.4%
1997 - kerr: 36.0%


1997 - stockton: 50.0%
1997 - hornacek: 37.9%
1997 - russell: 39.0%
1997 - anderson: 31.6%


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1998 - jordan: 42.7%
1998 - pippen: 41.0%
1998 - harper: 36.4%
1998 - kerr: 35.0%
1998 - kukoc: 50.0%


1998 - anderson: 50.0%
1998 - stockton: 49.0%
1998 - hornacek: 41.1%
1998 - russell: 40.9%
1998 - eisley: 37.5%

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1999 - johnson 50.0%
1999 - elie: 44.7%
1999 - elliott: 33.3%
1999 - jackson: 32.4%
1999 - kerr: 40.0%

1999 - sprewell: 41.0%
1999 - houston: 42.7%
1999 - johnson: 28.6%
1999 - ward: 46.2%
1999 - childs: 22.7%


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2000 - kobe: 36.7%
2000 - rice: 40.0%
2000 - fisher: 42.9%
2000 - shaw: 21.6%
2000 - harper: 46.4%


2000 - miller: 41.3%
2000 - rose: 46.7%
2000 - jackson: 41.3%
2000 - perkins: 37.9%
2000 - best: 46.7%
2000 - croshere: 54.5%


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2001 - kobe: 41.5%
2001 - fisher: 43.6%
2001 - fox: 44.1%
2001 - shaw: 30.0%
2001 - lue: 58.3%


2001 - iverson: 40.7%
2001 - snow: 40.7%
2001 - mickie: 31.3%
2001 - bell: 30.8%
2001 - jones: 40.0%
2001 - ollie: 33.3%

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2002 - kobe: 51.4%
2002 - fisher: 51.5%
2002 - fox: 52.2%
2002 - george: 43.5%
2002 - shaw: 28.6%
2002 - hunter: 20.0%

2002 - kidd: 43.8%
2002 - kittles: 45.2%
2002 - van horn: 38.6%
2002 - harris: 34.4%
2002 - jefferson: 52.4%


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2003 - parker: 38.6%
2003 - jackson: 37.7%
2003 - ginobili: 34.8%
2003 - bowen: 23.3%
2003 - claxton: 56.0%

2003 - kidd: 36.4%
2003 - jefferson: 41.7%
2003 - kittles: 37.7%
2003 - harris: 30.6%


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2004 - kobe: 38.1%
2004 - fisher: 30.6%
2004 - george: 39.3%
2004 - payton: 32.1%
2004 - malone: 33.3%
2004 - medvidenko: 35.3%
2004 - rush: 31.8
2004 - walton: 38.5%



2004 - hamilton: 40.2%
2004 - billups: 50.9%
2004 - prince: 38.9%
2004 - hunter: 29.4%
2004 - sheed: 45.3%
2004 - james: 50.0%

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2005 - Duncan: 41.9% ( became more of a mid range shooter )
2005 - manu: 49.4%
2005 - parker: 45.8%
2005 - bowen: 38.0%
2005 - barry: 40.7%
2005 - beno: 36.4%
2005 - brown: 27.3%


2005 - billups: 43.4%
2005 - hamilton: 38.6%
2005 - sheed: 43.8%
2005 - prince: 38.2%
2005 - hunter: 38.1%

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2006 - wade: 46.8%
2006 - walker: 39.1%
2006 - williams: 36.0%
2006 - posey: 41.9%
2006 - payton: 36.8%
2006 - anderson: 33.3%

2006 - terry: 47.8%
2006 - howard: 38.8%
2006 - stackhouse: 35.5%
2006 - harris: 36.4%
2006 - van horn: 27.3%


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2007 - parker: 56.8%
2007 - duncan: 44.6%
2007 - manu: 36.7%
2007 - bowen: 29.6%
2007 - finley: 26.1%
2007 - barry: 36.4%


2007 - lebron: 35.6%
2007 - gibson: 43.9%
2007 - pavlovic: 36.4%
2007 - jones: 45.5%
2007 - marshall: 31.5%
2007 - snow: 40.0%

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2008 - pierce: 43.2%
2008 - allen: 50.7%
2008 - rondo: 37.7%
2008 - house: 35.7%
2008 - cassell: 37.5%
2008 - posey: 50.0%

2008 - kobe: 40.5%
2008 - fisher: 40.5%
2008 - vujacic: 39.1%
2008 - radmanovic: 39.0%
2008 - farmar: 48.4%
2008 - walton: 31.3%
2008 - ariza: 55.6%

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2009 - kobe: 43.0%
2009 - ariza: 35.7%
2009 - fisher: 50.0%
2009 - farmar: 36.8%
2009 - luke: 80.0%
2009 - brown: 0.0%
2009 - sasha: 0.0%

2009 - hedo: 49.2%
2009 - lewis: 40.5%
2009 - alston: 36.8%
2009 - pietrus: 47.5%
2009 - lee: 37.5%
2009 - reddick: 40.0%
2009 - nelson: 34.8%

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2010 - kobe: 40.5%
2010 - metta: 36.1%
2010 - fisher: 42.0%
2010 - brown: 45.0%
2010 - farmar: 32.1%
2010 - walton: 33.3%


2010 - pierce: 43.9%
2010 - allen: 36.7%
2010 - rondo: 45.4%
2010 - sheed: 36.6%
2010 - robinson: 40.0%
2010 - allen: 33.3%



kobe actually had one of the extremely rare series shooting over 50% for a perimeter scorer during his era

[1987_Lakers]

Kobe played in a much tougher defensive era. Kobe would average 30+ easily in this wide-open era.

The east was garbage

Sixers with Iverson, who Kenny always shits on
The Nets?
Magic?

:roll:

[Yeezy]

Kobe played in a much tougher defensive era. Kobe would average 30+ easily in this wide-open era.

this


how could 16 years of data lie

[Yeezy]

The east was garbage

Sixers with Iverson, who Kenny always shits on
The Nets?
Magic?

:roll:

real finals was out west



while kobe was beating the blazers/kings/spurs every year to make the finals lebron was beating the wizards, bobcats and raptors



lebron only had to face 1 good team each year. kobe had to face 4

hence:

50+ win teams eliminated

kobe - 24
lebron - 14



and the finals is always a tough grind it out defensive series cause the refs swallow their whistles

[1987_Lakers]

real finals was out west



while kobe was beating the blazers/kings/spurs every year to make the finals

With defenses focusing on Shaq.

:roll:

[Yeezy]

plus kobes finals were full of major injuries

2000 - ankle
2001 - ankle/wrist
2002 - food poisoning
2004 - shoulder/knee surgery/issues all year
2008 - fractured hand
2009 - torn ligament in hand
2010 - broken index finger with cast/knee issue



this plus no whistles... obviously its gonna be rough

[Yeezy]

With defenses focusing on Shaq.

:roll:

i wonder if defenses had any attention on these guys

https://fadeawayworld.net/.image/t_share/MTgwMTMyODM4NTg3MTE0NjE4/ranking-the-10-greatest-teammates-that-lebron-james-has-ever-had-in-his-career.jpg

[RogueBorg]

With defenses focusing on Shaq.

:roll:

“Kobe Bryant is the guy I definitely wouldn’t have won 3 in a row without”: Shaquille O’Neal gives an insight into the Mamba Mentality

https://thesportsrush.com/nba-news-kobe-bryant-is-the-guy-i-definitely-wouldnt-have-won-3-in-a-row-without-shaquille-oneal-gives-an-insight-into-the-mamba-mentality/

[1987_Lakers]

“Kobe Bryant is the guy I definitely wouldn’t have won 3 in a row without”: Shaquille O’Neal gives an insight into the Mamba Mentality

https://thesportsrush.com/nba-news-kobe-bryant-is-the-guy-i-definitely-wouldnt-have-won-3-in-a-row-without-shaquille-oneal-gives-an-insight-into-the-mamba-mentality/

"LeBron will be GOAT once he surpasses Kareem in points" - Shaq

[Yeezy]

"LeBron will be GOAT once he surpasses Kareem in points" - Shaq

i guess shaq had kareem as goat all these years and malone 2nd all time

wait...

:lol

[Lee]

LeBron James is the greatest basketball player in history.
There are countless reasons and honestly I can go on for days and days writing up countless paragraphs, but i am a bit sleepy, and i want you guys to contribute to this thread too, so i will keep it short for now.

- 2016, LeBron James did the impossible and overcame a 3-1 deficit in the nba finals which has never been done before, defeating the 73-9 Golden State Warriors who have been compared to the Bulls in 96. LeBron single handedly broke the 52 year championship drought in Cleaveland.
-LeBron James needs 575 points to surpass Abdul-Jabbar's career total of 38,387.
-four NBA championships, four Finals MVPs, four NBA MVPs, 17 All-NBA selections, 17 All-Star selections, the 2003-04 Rookie of the Year award and three All-Star MVPs, too
Two Olympic Gold medals

Feel free to add the reasons why LeBron is the GOAT. I can think of at least 100 more things, but I want you guys to contribute too

Winning multiple MVPs and titles with different teams, coaches, and players.

[Yeezy]

Winning multiple MVPs and titles with different teams, coaches, and players.

ring chasing, colluding and quitting on franchises isn't something to brag about


its much easier to hand pick situations every 4 years than to go through a rebuild organically

[Full Court]

“Kobe Bryant is the guy I definitely wouldn’t have won 3 in a row without”: Shaquille O’Neal gives an insight into the Mamba Mentality

https://thesportsrush.com/nba-news-kobe-bryant-is-the-guy-i-definitely-wouldnt-have-won-3-in-a-row-without-shaquille-oneal-gives-an-insight-into-the-mamba-mentality/

Take away the second best player on pretty much any championship team, and they don't win.

[lebronlover69]

Winning multiple MVPs and titles with different teams, coaches, and players.

Agreed! Good one

[Shaquille O'Neal]

OP forgot this

2004 - Bronze/lottery

2005 - Lottery

2006 - bronze #2

2007 - swept in finals on 35%fgs

2008 - admittedly needed kobe to teach him how to be a man and save his ass vs Spain

2009 - beat down by Dwight Howard with HC advantage

2010 - the decision after quitting on Cleveland

2011 - owned by jj barea in the finals

2012 - colluded big 3 lockout title

2012 - refusing to pay for custom birthday cake

2013 - linked to the biogenesis clinic for PEDs

2013 - shot 29% outside of 5 feet, saved by Ray allen

2014 - worst beat down in finals history. largest margin of defeat. lost finals mvp to a role player

2014 - collusion phone call with Kevin love to tamper with Wiggins trade before eligible

2015 - accused of going back to the same Miami clinic

2015 - exposes p*nis on national TV to children

2015 - another 30% shooting performance outside of 5 feet

2016 - collusion phone call with Adam silver to get draymond suspended

2016 - saved by kyrie irving

2017 - saying he never went bald like MJ with obvious hair plugs

2017 - game 3 series swinging winner hit in his face by durant

2018 - antisemitic remarks

2018 - admits he hated white people growing up

2018 - faking a hand injury with a fake cast during the post game questions

2018 - swept in finals, soft picked off durant in game 3

2019 - calling himself the greatest ever on the shop

2019 - klutch sports tampering violation with Anthony davis

2019/21 - pro China rhetoric/dismissing human rights violations

2020 - bubble ring with no fans or travel on a Disney practice court with davis owning the entire season and playoffs and only finally showing up for the finals when the Lakers faced the 5th seed Miami heat with key injuries.

2020 - preaches anti white Malcom X rhetoric while not actually knowing anything in the book he's holding

2021 - accused by cappie pondexter for human trafficking

2021 - space Jam 2 box office failure/razzie award for worst actor. lost hundreds of millions for producers

2022 - lottery

2023 - lottery



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:roll:

This should be penned!

I'll add some more:

2008: Playoffs vs. Celtics, goes 2/18 with 10 turnovers

2010: Quit on his team in the last 3 games to the point the Cavs owner and most casual NBA fans said "He quit"

2014: An Air conditioner beat him

2020: During the riots, stated "Cops are out here hunting down black men" Also 2020: The Clippers and Lakers agreed to not continue the playoffs and go "protest" until they were told they wouldn't receive bonuses. By that point almost all the players wanted to leave the bubble.

2019-2021: During his "look at me, I read" it's discovered he's never made it past the first page on any book.

Fact is, he's big and strong and can't shoot a lick outside of 5 feet, can't dribble, no footwork, constantly offensively fouls and habitually travels on almost every play.


This is your "GOAT?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75ax0LJW0zo

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Take away the second best player on pretty much any championship team, and they don't win.

Except of course for Jordan, who game 6 of the 1998 Finals barely had Pippen that game (10 pts) and yet Mike dropped 45 pts, game winning steal and shot. Pippen missed about 1/2 that season.
So, there's that.

[And1AllDay]

all of these things are basketball related

2004 - Bronze/lottery

2005 - Lottery

2006 - bronze #2

2007 - swept in finals on 35%fgs

2008 - admittedly needed kobe to teach him how to be a man and save his ass vs Spain

2009 - beat down by Dwight Howard with HC advantage


2011 - owned by jj barea in the finals

2012 - colluded big 3 lockout title

2013 - linked to the biogenesis clinic for PEDs

2013 - shot 29% outside of 5 feet, saved by Ray allen

2014 - worst beat down in finals history. largest margin of defeat. lost finals mvp to a role player

2014 - collusion phone call with Kevin love to tamper with Wiggins trade before eligible

2015 - accused of going back to the same Miami clinic

2015 - another 30% shooting performance outside of 5 feet

2015 - loses finals mvp to a role player

2016 - collusion phone call with Adam silver to get draymond suspended

2016 - saved by kyrie irving


2017 - game 3 series swinging winner hit in his face by durant



2018 - swept in finals, soft picked off durant in game 3

2019 - lottery

2019 - klutch sports tampering violation with Anthony davis


2020 - bubble ring with no fans or travel on a Disney practice court with davis owning the entire season and playoffs and only finally showing up for the finals when the Lakers faced the 5th seed Miami heat with key injuries.


2022 - lottery

2023 - lottery

please get help and lip injections

[FultzNationRISE]

Hard to argue against OP’s thesis ngl.

[SouBeachTalents]

He's not a bald degenerate gambling sneaker hawking Space Jam making 55 wins without him played in the weak ass 90's sociopathic ball hogging piece of shit.

Also, he's not 1-9.

[Axe]

I wonder what starface, Akrazotile, Fourth Tenor and PANTHALASSA would think about this.

[Manny98]

Nobody put the fear of god in players like prime LeBron did

Nobody completely dominated an entire conference for well over a decade like LeBron did from 07-2018

Nobody compares LeBron to total amount of statistical accomplishments ect

He's easily the GOAT, I'm sorry but both MJ and Kareem are a tier below LeBron at this point