Who are the greatest passers from each position?

[1987_Lakers]

C - candidates: Jokic & Walton
PF - Candidates: Draymond, Webber, & Pau
SF - Candidates: LeBron & Bird
SG - Candidates: Ginobili, Harden, & Drexler
PG - Candidates: Magic, Nash, Stockton, CP3 & Kidd

Form a starting 5 of the best passers.

[1987_Lakers]

A team of...

C - Jokic
F - Draymond
F - Bird
G - Ginobili
G - Nash

Would be pretty sexy on the offensive end. 3 elite shooters with 3 guys who could handle the ball if asked (Nash, Ginobili, & Draymond). Hell, Jokic is a pretty damn good ball-handler for a Center as well. Can't even imagine all the open shots this team would create.

[John8204]

PG - Stockton (Archibald)
SG - Jordan (Maravich)
PF - Lebron (Gasol)
SF - Bird (Luka)
C - Duncan (Jokic)

[iamgine]

Jason Williams.

[BigShotBob]

Learn basketball before 1989 because for the SF position you also have Gus Johnson

Pau does not belong for the best passing PFs that's a troll pick

[1987_Lakers]

Learn basketball before 1989 because for the SF position you also have Gus Johnson

Pau does not belong for the best passing PFs that's a troll pick

Yes, a career 2.5 apg deserves to be in the discussion with Bird & LeBron. Where do you come up with this shit? LOL

[RRR3]

Yes, a career 2.5 apg deserves to be in the discussion with Bird & LeBron. Where do you come up with this shit? LOL
He’s not trolling which makes it much sadder.

[Yeezy]

hey OP. how many titles as assist leader for lebron and kobe

[1987_Lakers]

hey OP. how many titles as assist leader for lebron and kobe

This guy has kobe beat

https://media.tenor.com/H0foamBzrn4AAAAC/bob-cousy-crossover.gif

[Jasper]

I have to add in modern day NBA Giannis... besides Lebron and Luka

[Full Court]

Yes, a career 2.5 apg deserves to be in the discussion with Bird & LeBron. Where do you come up with this shit? LOL

Your problem is your analysis is always limited to stat sheets. Number of assists does not necessarily correlate to how good of a passer someone is. If it did, Westbrook would be one of the greatest passers of all time.

[1987_Lakers]

Your problem is your analysis is always limited to stat sheets. Number of assists does not necessarily correlate to how good of a passer someone is. If it did, Westbrook would be one of the greatest passers of all time.

Not at all, Wilt averaged more assists than Walton during his prime, but wasn't anywhere near the passer.

You can't tell me a guy who averaged 2.5 apg his career deserves to be in the discussion with LeBron & Bird as a passer. That is retardation.

[BigShotBob]

Not at all, Wilt averaged more assists than Walton during his prime, but wasn't anywhere near the passer.

You can't tell me a guy who averaged 2.5 apg his career deserves to be in the discussion with LeBron & Bird as a passer. That is retardation.

You literally never watched him play so no one cares what you think about Gus Johnson. If you actually watched film you'd see his passing wizardry.

You do this thing where you obviously don't know anything about a player, google the player's name and look them up on basketball-reference and then analyze them off of that. It was a much, much harder to get assists in his day.

If he played now he'd average at least double or triple the assists that he did especially if a player like Tyrese Haliburton can do it.

But I've wasted enough of my time just understand that it's clear to anyone that knows anything about basketball before 1989 (which is about 3 posters here including me) that you're a stan and not a fan

EDIT: Pau Gasol averaged 3.2 assists per game and you put him as one of the best passing PFs ever. You're literally brain dead

[1987_Lakers]

You literally never watched him play so no one cares what you think about Gus Johnson. If you actually watched film you'd see his passing wizardry.

You do this thing where you obviously don't know anything about a player, google the player's name and look them up on basketball-reference and then analyze them off of that. It was a much, much harder to get assists in his day.

If he played now he'd average at least double or triple the assists that he did especially if a player like Tyrese Haliburton can do it.

But I've wasted enough of my time just understand that it's clear to anyone that knows anything about basketball before 1989 (which is about 3 posters here including me) that you're a stan and not a fan

You obviously never watched him play either.

Only a retard believes Johnson deserves to be in the convo with LeBron & Bird.

Tell us again how Giannis is "done" as a player.

[BigShotBob]

You obviously never watched him play either.

Only a retard believes Johnson deserves to be in the convo with LeBron & Bird.

Tell us again how Giannis is "done" as a player.

Pau Gasol averaged 3.2 assists per game but he belongs in a convo with C-Webb according your brain dead takes and you also omit Charles Barkley....

No one should take you seriously unfortunately google and basketball-ref can't teach you everything sorry

[1987_Lakers]

Pau Gasol averaged 3.2 assists per game but he belongs in a convo with C-Webb according your brain dead takes and you also omit Charles Barkley....

No one should take you seriously unfortunately google and basketball-ref can't teach you everything sorry

I never realized Webber averaged 7-8 apg like Bird & LeBron did some years.

Keep making yourself look more dumb.

[Round Mound]

Pau Gasol averaged 3.2 assists per game but he belongs in a convo with C-Webb according your brain dead takes and you also omit Charles Barkley....

No one should take you seriously unfortunately google and basketball-ref can't teach you everything sorry

Indeed. Webber is probably the best passing PF for a 6'10 or taller PFs but for real the best passing PF is Barkley regarding any height. Just watch him play and you'll see that.

[1987_Lakers]

Indeed. Webber is probably the best passing PF for a 6'10 or taller PFs but for real the best passing PF is Barkley regarding any height. Just watch him play and you'll see that.

Nah, Barkley was a good passer, but didn't have Pau's court vision.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOEtYb2s_wM

[1987_Lakers]

If there was one PF I left out it's probably Diaw. Amazing passing skills. Maybe KG too.

[SouBeachTalents]

Other guys that deserve mention, I'll go with non guards

SF: Hill, Pippen, Butler, Schrempf, Iggy

PF: Duncan, Mason, Odom, Bam

C: Sabonis, Divac, Unseld, Russell, Noah, Horford

[SouBeachTalents]

And for anyone who wants to see some highlights of the dude in question


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHcrG6gfJhI&t&ab_channel=WiltChamberlainArchive

[zeerghit]

If there was one PF I left out it's probably Diaw. Amazing passing skills. Maybe KG too.

maybe Blake Griffin?
and why nobody mentioned Rondo??

[Yeezy]

just for the record if we use the lebron james criteria for GOAT scorer and translate it to assists among shooting guards. this would be the ranking

https://i.ibb.co/pJLLTbL/Screen-Shot-2022-12-31-at-1-35-40-PM.png



why is 1987_Lakers pick ginobili

seems odd. it goes against his criteria

[expansionera]

Archibald
Harden
Bron/Barry
Webber
Wilt

That’s it

[Yeezy]

Archibald
Harden
Bron/Barry
Webber
Wilt

That’s it

you got 2 right at least


PG - Magic Johnson ( not debatable )
SG - James Harden ( 5 seasons with double digit assist averages )
SF - Larry Bird ( came within the flow of the game unlike lebron. more trick passes than lebron )
PF - Chris Webber ( not even close )
C - Nikola Jokic ( already surpassed divac as king sloth playmaker )

[warriorfan]

Pau Gasol averaged 3.2 assists per game but he belongs in a convo with C-Webb according your brain dead takes and you also omit Charles Barkley....

No one should take you seriously unfortunately google and basketball-ref can't teach you everything sorry

:roll:

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[Reggie43]

Draymond getting easy assists in that warriors system isnt really impressive, tons of guys could have played that role and produced the same numbers.

Ginobili is kind of underrated but the best passer at the sg spot? :oldlol:

[RRR3]

Other guys that deserve mention, I'll go with non guards

SF: Hill, Pippen, Butler, Schrempf, Iggy

PF: Duncan, Mason, Odom, Bam

C: Sabonis, Divac, Unseld, Russell, Noah, Horford
Bam has played center almost his entire career

[Round Mound]

C - candidates: Jokic & Walton
PF - Candidates: Draymond, Webber, & Pau
SF - Candidates: LeBron & Bird
SG - Candidates: Ginobili, Harden, & Drexler
PG - Candidates: Magic, Nash, Stockton, CP3 & Kidd

Form a starting 5 of the best passers.

Good list

[1987_Lakers]

just for the record if we use the lebron james criteria for GOAT scorer and translate it to assists among shooting guards. this would be the ranking

https://i.ibb.co/pJLLTbL/Screen-Shot-2022-12-31-at-1-35-40-PM.png



why is 1987_Lakers pick ginobili

seems odd. it goes against his criteria

Yes, because Ray Allen & Reggie were considered better passers than Ginobili. :oldlol:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48WnPHE2dKk

[Yeezy]

Good list

he named 15 guys when he was only supposed to name 5. he's not willing to put himself out there. better to try and please everyone so he doesn't look bad. no risk. no reward. shameful list

[Yeezy]

Yes, because Ray Allen & Reggie were considered better passers than Ginobili. :oldlol:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48WnPHE2dKk

you obviously missed the irony/joke about my post. I'm making fun of your retarded lebron all time points agenda. I have manu top 3 for my SG playmaker because I'm not a longevity totals retard. it's called the eye test. that's our formula. not yours

[1987_Lakers]

you obviously missed the irony/joke about my post. I'm making fun of your retarded lebron all time points agenda. I have manu top 3 for my SG playmaker because I'm not a longevity totals retard. it's called the eye test. that's our formula. not yours

Wrong

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?361982-Sad-Truth-Kobe-will-retire-before-breaking-kareems-record-due-to-a-3rd-lockout

[Round Mound]

he named 15 guys when he was only supposed to name 5. he's not willing to put himself out there. better to try and please everyone so he doesn't look bad. no risk. no reward. shameful list

Who gives a shit if he added more players. His list very accurate.