Is Kobe the Most Uninspiring Player of All Time?

[AlternativeAcc.]

Kobe was known for his incredible work ethic, waking up at 4am, and training 10+ hours a day. He is often touted as potentially being the hardest working player of all time.

But that's wherein lies the lack of inspiration... because a guy who dedicated his life to the sport and training is still considered a poor finals performer and only the 15th or so best player ever, despite his genetic advantages over players who rank higher than him.

It's sad to think about. With as hard as he worked, he should be number 1. But he's nowhere close and is responsible for several of the worst meltdowns ever and has a track record of underperforming when it mattered most.

Do you think his training lacked intelligence? Did he fail to incorporate creative training methods? Did he work harder but not smarter?


Why is Kobe so uninspiring?

[Overdrive]

Which player ranked above Kobe had worse athletic gifts when it comes to basketball? There is no player in the top 10 that's shorter than Kobe. Half of them are centers anyway. The wingplayers and even the sole PG are taller than him.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Which player ranked above Kobe had worse athletic gifts when it comes to basketball? There is no player in the top 10 that's shorter than Kobe. Half of them are centers anyway. The wingplayers and even the sole PG are taller than him.

So you equate athletic gifts with height? Jerry West, Big O, Jordan, they all managed!

Kobe didn't.

Bird and Magic managed without amazing athletic gifts, Kobe didn't




#KobeDidn't

[Yeezy]

doesn't like 90% of the league wear kobe shoes

lebron is his biggest fan. he grew up wearing kobes shoes, sporting an afro, goes to LA and wears kobe shoes on his first photo day. says he wants to continue his legacy, copies his dunks, gets a kobe tattoo

jayson tatum, Paul George and devin booker saying everything they know about basketball is from kobe

current players voted kobe the 3rd GOAT (practically the same outcome as lebron. off by a hair)

kobe bryant allstar mvp award

mamba mentality

every player current and from the past 40 years saying he's one of the top 1-3 players ever

young people shooting balls of paper yelling "kobe!"

nothing reflects inspiration here. nope

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[Overdrive]

So you equate athletic gifts with height? Jerry West, Big O, Jordan, they all managed!

Kobe didn't.

Bird and Magic managed without amazing athletic gifts, Kobe didn't




#KobeDidn't

For most players with height comes higher wingspan handsize etc.

Bird was way taller than Kobe. Being tall and a great shooter is the jackpot when it comes to basketball.
Magic was taller and quicker. Jordan was marginally taller, but higher wingspan, bigger hands, quicker, better leaper etc.

I don't think West was really better than Kobe, Oscar? Maybe. He was about as tall as Kobe, but from everything I've seen far more athletic. Kobe had tiny hands relatively speaking.

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[AlternativeAcc.]

For most players with height comes higher wingspan handsize etc.

Bird was way taller than Kobe. Being tall and a great shooter is the jackpot when it comes to basketball.
Magic was taller and quicker. Jordan was marginally taller, but higher wingspan, bigger hands, quicker, better leaper etc.

I don't think West was really better than Kobe, Oscar? Maybe. He was about as tall as Kobe, but from everything I've seen far more athletic. Kobe had tiny hands relatively speaking.

Meh, as far as athletic gifts he had the most of anyone not named LeBron, Jordan and Shaq

There's far more examples of 6'6 athletic freaks being successful than 6'9 unathletic shooters like Bird

With all the work Kobe put in, he couldve shot like curry or passed better.

I guess it proves no matter how hard you work, you're not guarenteed to be great. That's why he's uninspiring

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[AlternativeAcc.]

Keep spamming and missing the point kenny, your autism is driving views and revenue money for yours truly.

[Yeezy]

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[Yeezy]

Keep spamming and missing the point kenny, your autism is driving views and revenue money for yours truly.

you're like an onlyfans whore getting creamed on for profit cause you can't pay the rent any other way

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[AlternativeAcc.]

Kobe dedicated his life to a sport, worked harder than anybody, but is barely top 15 and the most underwhelming finals performer ever.

That's really sad. Hard work doesn't always pay. Thus is life.

[AlternativeAcc.]

you're like an onlyfans whore getting creamed on for profit cause you can't pay the rent any other way

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Cringe

Go back to spamming pls

[Yeezy]

Kobe dedicated his life to a sport, worked harder than anybody, but is barely top 15 and the most underwhelming finals performer ever.

That's really sad. Hard work doesn't always pay. Thus is life.

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[AlternativeAcc.]

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[Overdrive]

Meh, as far as athletic gifts he had the most of anyone not named LeBron, Jordan and Shaq

There's far more examples of 6'6 athletic freaks being successful than 6'9 unathletic shooters like Bird

With all the work Kobe put in, he couldve shot like curry or passed better.

I guess it proves no matter how hard you work, you're not guarenteed to be great. That's why he's uninspiring

So it's far easier to get noticed among the few tall shooters than the overabundance of 6'6" athletic freaks? Sounds about right. I think Kobe did pretty well for himself.

[AlternativeAcc.]

So it's far easier to get noticed among the few tall shooters than the overabundance of 6'6" athletic freaks? Sounds about right. I think Kobe did pretty well for himself.

He did pretty good I agree. But he should be GOAT with the amount of time he put in. Curry surpassed him while being shorter and less athletic... I guess it proves that working smarter is the key.

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I just don’t see how you can argue Kobe is top 15, most knowledgeable hoop fans are gonna have him rounding out the bottom of the top 50 dependent on how seriously you take 70s basketball. If not for an unfortunate but karmic helicopter crash we wouldn’t be having this discussion

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I just don’t see how you can argue Kobe is top 15, most knowledgeable hoop fans are gonna have him rounding out the bottom of the top 50 dependent on how seriously you take 70s basketball. If not for an unfortunate but karmic helicopter crash we wouldn’t be having this discussion

Durant, Giannis, Jokic, Luka, and potentially several more will be ranked ahead

Which reinforces the thread. The hardest worker guy just wasn't all that good

[Yeezy]

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you should head out tonight. it's new years. don't be afraid to ask a girl to dance. you might get lucky


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[Manny98]

Literally everybody that makes the NBA outside a few had to dedicate their entire livelihood to basketball, it's not just a Kobe thing

[Manny98]

Which player ranked above Kobe had worse athletic gifts when it comes to basketball? There is no player in the top 10 that's shorter than Kobe. Half of them are centers anyway. The wingplayers and even the sole PG are taller than him.
Curry

[Yeezy]

Curry

curry will never be ahead of Kobe. he never played defense or was ever the top playmaker for his team outside of maybe 1 year. Kobe was both an all nba defender and his teams top playmaker every year. on top of that he was a way better all around scorer

all curry ever had on Kobe was three pointers

it can't just be about league mvps either. Kobe was complete. curry is perhaps the most incomplete player in the top 15 all time

[AlternativeAcc.]

Literally everybody that makes the NBA outside a few had to dedicate their entire livelihood to basketball, it's not just a Kobe thing

But Kobe took it to another level, the redeem team doc shows his work ethic was better than everyone else's

Despite amazing athletic gifts and working harder than everybody else, he's not the man. It makes me question his intelligence. He wasn't able to figure out how to work smarter and truly become the GOAT like LeBron did

[Yeezy]

But Kobe took it to another level, the redeem team doc shows his work ethic was better than everyone else's

Despite amazing athletic gifts and working harder than everybody else, he's not the man. It makes me question his intelligence. He wasn't able to figure out how to work smarter and truly become the GOAT like LeBron did

what if I told you Kobe spoke 4 languages, was a poet, a story teller, a father of 4, a husband and had time for make a wishes, soccer, scored high on his SATs. it's almost as if kobe had a complete life outside of basketball. but yes he did work harder than everyone. all he gave up was some sleep and nights out clubbing

[Manny98]

curry will never be ahead of Kobe. he never played defense or was ever the top playmaker for his team outside of maybe 1 year. Kobe was both an all nba defender and his teams top playmaker every year. on top of that he was a way better all around scorer

all curry ever had on Kobe was three pointers

it can't just be about league mvps either. Kobe was complete. curry is perhaps the most incomplete player in the top 15 all time
Curry is so much better than Kobe offensively that his slight edge on defense is irrelevant

In terms of leading a team, Curry has lead a team to 4 championships as the best player, whilst Kobe only twice

Curry has a lot more things over Kobe than 3 pointers

Shooting overall
Off ball scoring
Efficiency
On court impact
Handles

Personally I have Curry 6th all time and Kobe 9th

[AlternativeAcc.]

what if I told you Kobe spoke 4 languages, was a poet, a story teller, a father of 4, a husband and had time for make a wishes, soccer, scored high on his SATs. it's almost as if kobe had a complete life outside of basketball. but yes he did work harder than everyone. all he gave up was some sleep and nights out clubbing

It tells me you miss the point like usual and don't understand differe types of intelligence

Kobe didn't understand how to work on his game in an intelligent way. He took the same shots over again with no pulse on creativity or film studying to truly reach the next level. He was a low IQ player and Chucker. And guys like Pau run circles around him intellectually off the court. So Kobe is overrated in every way and underachieved.

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Can’t believe we’re still pretending Kobe was good on defense. Take Phil Jackson’s words:

“Kobe’s defense, to be accurate, has faltered in recent years, despite his presence on the league’s all-defensive team. The voters have been seduced by his remarkable athleticism and spectacular steals, but he hasn’t played sound, fundamental defense.

"Mesmerized by the ball, he’s gambled too frequently, putting us out of position, forcing rotations that leave a man wide open, and doesn’t keep his feet on the ground.”

Jackson said this in his book “The Last Season: A Team in Search of Its Soul.”

Guy made defensive and all star teams because he played in LA and scowled a lot while gambling for steals. He was rarely, if ever, a top 25 defensive guard/wing in the NBA. He’s not ahead of Curry in any attribute aside bricks

[AlternativeAcc.]

Can’t believe we’re still pretending Kobe was good on defense. Take Phil Jackson’s words:

“Kobe’s defense, to be accurate, has faltered in recent years, despite his presence on the league’s all-defensive team. The voters have been seduced by his remarkable athleticism and spectacular steals, but he hasn’t played sound, fundamental defense.

"Mesmerized by the ball, he’s gambled too frequently, putting us out of position, forcing rotations that leave a man wide open, and doesn’t keep his feet on the ground.”

Jackson said this in his book “The Last Season: A Team in Search of Its Soul.”

Guy made defensive and all star teams because he played in LA and scowled a lot while gambling for steals. He was rarely, if ever, a top 25 defensive guard/wing in the NBA. He’s not ahead of Curry in any attribute aside bricks

Your posts are insightful and hard to argue against

[Axe]

Can’t believe we’re still pretending Kobe was good on defense. Take Phil Jackson’s words:

“Kobe’s defense, to be accurate, has faltered in recent years, despite his presence on the league’s all-defensive team. The voters have been seduced by his remarkable athleticism and spectacular steals, but he hasn’t played sound, fundamental defense.

"Mesmerized by the ball, he’s gambled too frequently, putting us out of position, forcing rotations that leave a man wide open, and doesn’t keep his feet on the ground.”

Jackson said this in his book “The Last Season: A Team in Search of Its Soul.”

Guy made defensive and all star teams because he played in LA and scowled a lot while gambling for steals. He was rarely, if ever, a top 25 defensive guard/wing in the NBA. He’s not ahead of Curry in any attribute aside bricks
When is your TheGoatest account coming back?

[Axe]

Curry is so much better than Kobe offensively that his slight edge on defense is irrelevant

In terms of leading a team, Curry has lead a team to 4 championships as the best player, whilst Kobe only twice

Curry has a lot more things over Kobe than 3 pointers

Shooting overall
Off ball scoring
Efficiency
On court impact
Handles

Personally I have Curry 6th all time and Kobe 9th
Kd wasn't the best player on two of those rings? Lol.

[Manny98]

Kd wasn't the best player on two of those rings? Lol.
2017 definitely not Curry was by far the most impactful player on that team
2018 it's debatable I guess

[Yeezy]

Can’t believe we’re still pretending Kobe was good on defense. Take Phil Jackson’s words:

“Kobe’s defense, to be accurate, has faltered in recent years, despite his presence on the league’s all-defensive team. The voters have been seduced by his remarkable athleticism and spectacular steals, but he hasn’t played sound, fundamental defense.

"Mesmerized by the ball, he’s gambled too frequently, putting us out of position, forcing rotations that leave a man wide open, and doesn’t keep his feet on the ground.”

Jackson said this in his book “The Last Season: A Team in Search of Its Soul.”

Guy made defensive and all star teams because he played in LA and scowled a lot while gambling for steals. He was rarely, if ever, a top 25 defensive guard/wing in the NBA. He’s not ahead of Curry in any attribute aside bricks

Phil wrote that after kobes rape case when he admitted he took out the frustration of his own daughters rape situation on kobe and even scottie pippen said he was a closet racist. he also cleaned rodmans jizz out of jeanies clam with his tongue. he's always been a bit sour on things. but even that didnt last cause he came back to the Lakers

as for kobes defense let's ask lebron what he thinks. he's the one that made a documentary about Kobe teaching him how to be a man at the 08 Olympics while setting a tone on the defensive end

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Phil wrote that after kobes rape case when he admitted he took out the frustration of his own daughters rape situation on kobe and even scottie pippen said he was a closet racist. he also cleaned rodmans jizz out of jeanies clam with his tongue. he's always been a bit sour on things. but even that didnt last cause he came back to the Lakers

as for kobes defense let's ask lebron what he thinks. he's the one that made a documentary about Kobe teaching him how to be a man at the 08 Olympics while setting a tone on the defensive end

Rape is a serious and heinous crime, but wasn’t it Kobe who snitched on Shaq to the police and ruined his marriage? While we’re discussing hoop related gossip and not hoops.

Kobe’s defense seems to always have been letting Shaq take responsibility :lol

[Yeezy]

Rape is a serious and heinous crime, but wasn’t it Kobe who snitched on Shaq to the police and ruined his marriage? While we’re discussing hoop related gossip and not hoops.

Kobe’s defense seems to always have been letting Shaq take responsibility :lol

I think Kobe snitched not knowing what he said would be released to the public. he was just using shaq as an example of women getting money out if men. it's like the D'Angelo Russell thing with nick Young. when you're behind closed doors you talk about shit that might f*ck someone over. it's not the person that says it that's at fault. it's the leaker

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I think Kobe snitched not knowing what he said would be released to the public. he was just using shaq as an example of women getting money out if men. it's like the D'Angelo Russell thing with nick Young. when you're behind closed doors you talk about shit that might f*ck someone over. it's not the person that says it that's at fault. it's the leaker

Behind closed doors at the police department? Kobe had no honor and that’s why he’s in the ground now

[Yeezy]

Behind closed doors at the police department? Kobe had no honor and that’s why he’s in the ground now

yeah behind closed doors at the police department because at the time he assumed his innocence and that none of it would be leaked. otherwise why say it. the reference doesn't prove his innocence. it's like an "oh by the way" piece of information he volunteered. it wasn't incriminating. the detectives were out to damage kobes reputation. you obviously don't know how they work. theyre snakes that will do whatever they can to get whoever they interrogate found guilty and a lot of what decides that is destroying someone's image.

kobe was ignorant to the situation. you're ignorant to the situation as well

[Round Mound]

He loved the game so much only Bird practiced at the same or close to that level. He also played hurt many times. He is also the most skilled 1 on 1 player..He should be ranked as one of the most inspiring players.

[warriorfan]

thread backfire :lol

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yeah behind closed doors at the police department because at the time he assumed his innocence and that none of it would be leaked. otherwise why say it. the reference doesn't prove his innocence. it's like an "oh by the way" piece of information he volunteered. it wasn't incriminating. the detectives were out to damage kobes reputation. you obviously don't know how they work. theyre snakes that will do whatever they can to get whoever they interrogate found guilty and a lot of what decides that is destroying someone's image.

kobe was ignorant to the situation. you're ignorant to the situation as well
The detectives were out to damage Kobe’s reputation so he made sure to offer them incriminating information about the man who carried him. Teammate and human being of the year

[1987_Lakers]

Kobe was known for his incredible work ethic, waking up at 4am, and training 10+ hours a day. He is often touted as potentially being the hardest working player of all time.

But that's wherein lies the lack of inspiration... because a guy who dedicated his life to the sport and training is still considered a poor finals performer and only the 15th or so best player ever, despite his genetic advantages over players who rank higher than him.

It's sad to think about. With as hard as he worked, he should be number 1. But he's nowhere close and is responsible for several of the worst meltdowns ever and has a track record of underperforming when it mattered most.

Do you think his training lacked intelligence? Did he fail to incorporate creative training methods? Did he work harder but not smarter?


Why is Kobe so uninspiring?

No doubt he overworked his body. Which led to nagging injuries late in the season. By the time he was 34 his body had enough, was never able to recover from his Achilles injury and had other injury issues after that.

LeBron is a hard worker, but seems pretty smart about it, which is why he is still elite at 38.

KD smokes weed all the time and is built like a stick and recovered from his Achilles injury like it was nothing.

[Yeezy]

The detectives were out to damage Kobe’s reputation so he made sure to offer them incriminating information about the man who carried him. Teammate and human being of the year

there's nothing incriminating about women hustling shaq for money


maybe for the women. not for shaq

[Yeezy]

No doubt he overworked his body. Which led to nagging injuries late in the season. By the time he was 34 his body had enough, was never able to recover from his Achilles injury and had other injury issues after that.

LeBron is a hard worker, but seems pretty smart about it, which is why he is still elite at 38.

KD smokes weed all the time and is built like a stick and recovered from his Achilles injury like it was nothing.

imagine ripping on a guy for working hard. typical lebron fan with zero self respect.


btw the reason lebron became a respectable nba player is because of kobe. (admittedly)

go watch the redeem team doc that lebron produced.. lebron tells a great story about it. he says kobe is like the father he never had

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there's nothing incriminating about women hustling shaq for money


maybe for the women. not for shaq
Is that why Shaq’s wife divorced him thereafter? Kobe was scum

[1987_Lakers]

what if I told you Kobe spoke 4 languages

His Spanish was awful. I speak fluent Spanish and I've seen him get stuck on words like crazy in interviews when he tried to have a convo in Spanish.

[AlternativeAcc.]

No doubt he overworked his body. Which led to nagging injuries late in the season. By the time he was 34 his body had enough, was never able to recover from his Achilles injury and had other injury issues after that.

LeBron is a hard worker, but seems pretty smart about it, which is why he is still elite at 38.

KD smokes weed all the time and is built like a stick and recovered from his Achilles injury like it was nothing.

Yeah, Kobe is like the construction worker who "works hard" but destroys his body and is miserable. KD and LeBron are tech billionaires who also work hard but in the most intelligent way possible



Kobe was a caveman

[1987_Lakers]

imagine ripping on a guy for working hard.

I lost close to 100 pounds 9 years ago and have been able to keep the weight off and workout everyday.

I've also injured myself in the past while working and was stupid enough to "keep going", only to make the injury worse.

You stay home all day with your physical/mental state deteriorating because you don't do any physical activity, it shows in the double chin and your crazy posts.

[warriorfan]

I lost close to 100 pounds 9 years ago and have been able to keep the weight off and workout everyday.

I've also injured myself in the past while working and was stupid enough to "keep going", only to make the injury worse.

You stay home all day with your physical/mental state deteriorating because you don't do any physical activity, it shows in the double chin and your crazy posts.

lol. you probably have more stretch marks than highwhey

[1987_Lakers]

lol. you probably have more stretch marks than highwhey

You probably lost tons of weight too, but in your case it was because of crack use.

[warriorfan]

You probably lost tons of weight too, but in your case it was because of crack use.

nope, been in great shape my entire life

enjoy being a stretch marked midget who pretends to know two shits about basketball. lol

[1987_Lakers]

nope, been in great shape my entire life

People who live in a motel 6 are usually not in great shape.

[Yeezy]

I lost close to 100 pounds 9 years ago and have been able to keep the weight off and workout everyday.

I've also injured myself in the past while working and was stupid enough to "keep going", only to make the injury worse.

You stay home all day with your physical/mental state deteriorating because you don't do any physical activity, it shows in the double chin and your crazy posts.

so your hatred for Kobe is more based on your hatred for your own mistakes. you got hurt and ended up in a wheel chair ( I guess that's why everyone called you wheels for so long ) and you see your own downfall in kobe and it angers you seeing a guy push himself to the limit. I finally get it


you also have crazy stretch marks that made you self conscious with women. another mystery solved

I think we had a breakthrough today

sad thing for you is that your prime is dwindling while mine has already been fulfilled with dozens of women that's mostly all been documented and shared on here. you however halve still yet to prove you're not a virgin

but after this revealing story you just told I won't make fun of you for that anymore. you do the best you can kid.. I'm sure it will happen sooner or later

[Yeezy]

lol. you probably have more stretch marks than highwhey

leave him alone. he just exposed a lot today. possibly his new years resolution to be more transparent with people. ISH traffic might take a hit this year if that's the case. we need his 50 alts to sustain the ad revenue for Jeff

[1987_Lakers]

so your hatred for Kobe is more based on your hatred for your own mistakes. you got hurt and ended up in a wheel chair ( I guess that's why everyone called you wheels for so long )

Stopped reading there, lol wtf.

[warriorfan]

People who live in a motel 6 are usually not in great shape.

how many burritos a day did you have to eat to get clinically obese? lol.

[1987_Lakers]

I'm in great shape guys

https://i.postimg.cc/cHWttN89/dfghsdfhs.jpg

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[warriorfan]

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I am.

How many burritos did you eat a day? Maybe you can help out your brother highwhey lose some weight and you both can figure out how to get rid of your stretch marks together. :lol

[8Ball]

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Warriorfan, have you changed since then?


Won't critique the past since its the past.

[Hey Yo]

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So broke he's gotta smoke half the filter to get the most out of his $12 dollar pack.


pathetic

[AlternativeAcc.]

So broke he's gotta smoke half the filter to get the most out of his $12 dollar pack.


pathetic

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[warriorfan]

So broke he's gotta smoke half the filter to get the most out of his $12 dollar pack.


pathetic

those aren’t even cigarettes :lol

projection

[Axe]

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[1987_Lakers]

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