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coastalmarker99
01-01-2023, 06:51 AM
In this hypothetical situation where our goats add an extra ring to their careers in one of the years that they had a realistic chance of winning in.

How would our narratives change about them?

The present-day narrative about Wilt with a title in 1962 would now be completely different.

As he now has the most outstanding single season in NBA history and in the process completely silences any criticism of his high-volume scoring days.

He also would have three different titles with three different teams as the best player something only Lebron has matched.

Lebron winning the 2015 finals without his two all-stars in Kyrie and Love would be viewed as the Goat carry Job and he would presently be ranked above Jordan in most People's lists as a result.

Kareem winning in 1974 with an all-time carry job silences any criticism of him winning only one ring in the 1970s and gives him an even more valid Goat claim over his rivals in Jordan and Lebron.


Magic winning in 1984 completely erases the biggest mark of his career and gives him 6 rings to Bird's now 2 effectively ending the debate between them, especially considering that Magic would now be 4 and 0 in H2H matchups with Bird in college and the Pros.


Bird winning in 1987 ensures that he ties Magic in rings with 4 each while also ensuring that he has two massive upsets over both Magic and Kareem as the underdog as a result of this.

Bird over magic all time is now the commonly held view by most people when discussing the two.

Russell winning in the 1967 title completely ends the heated debate between him and Wilt as he would have beaten him every single time while now having a 12 to 1 ring advantage plus he would have also ended his career with 11 straight titles in a row.


Jordan winning in 1990 ensures that he becomes utterly untouchable as the Goat in the eyes of the general public with seven rings to now go along with a four-peat and another three-peat.

Overdrive
01-01-2023, 08:47 AM
2011 is the title Lebron would need to get. It's the biggest argument against his case as GOAT.
That's why I'd also take '69 for Wilt. He was so close and yet Russell overcame him once again in his last game.

I think Bird would profit more from another title than Magic would.

Shaq would be top 5 if he won 1995.

Yeezy
01-01-2023, 09:09 AM
How would adding one extra title to a Goat's career change the narrative


7 for 7 would be nice but coming back just for a role player ring would actually taint MJ's career

warriorfan
01-01-2023, 11:48 AM
2011 is the title Lebron would need to get. It's the biggest argument against his case as GOAT.
That's why I'd also take '69 for Wilt. He was so close and yet Russell overcame him once again in his last game.

I think Bird would profit more from another title than Magic would.

Shaq would be top 5 if he won 1995.

2011 is the goat choke. LeBron was on track to become the possible goat until he colluded with the second best player in the league and an all star power forward who was the 4th highest PER in the league only to get outscored by Jason Terry and lose in the NBA Finals despite playing 67 full minutes more then him. It would be like if MJ left the bulls and joined the Lakers with Magic Johnson and brought Charles Barkley along and got outscored by John Starks in the Finals. The discussion ended in June of 2011. LeBron stan’s have been desperately grasping at straws ever since.

Full Court
01-01-2023, 11:59 AM
Well the only one in the top ten who could hypothetically win another ring is Bronie. It still wouldn't change 2011, and if he didn't get FMVP then it really wouldn't bump up his legacy at all. The only thing that could give him a boost is winning another FMVP or two.

iamgine
01-01-2023, 01:12 PM
An interesting case would be Moses Malone. He's usually ranked just outside top 10. Critics would say he only won because his team was stacked. But he actually went to the finals in '81 and his team beat Magic & Kareem and stole 2 games from Boston. All while his sidekick was someone called Robert Reid and no all star in the team. It was completely within reason he could've won in '81. I wonder how he'd be viewed if he had a "Hakeem title" while beating Magic/Kareem/Bird. In addition to his stacked title.

Stephonit
01-02-2023, 10:22 PM
If the Spurs had also won in 2013 would we think any differently of Duncan?

Full Court
01-02-2023, 11:11 PM
An interesting case would be Moses Malone. He's usually ranked just outside top 10. Critics would say he only won because his team was stacked. But he actually went to the finals in '81 and his team beat Magic & Kareem and stole 2 games from Boston. All while his sidekick was someone called Robert Reid and no all star in the team. It was completely within reason he could've won in '81. I wonder how he'd be viewed if he had a "Hakeem title" while beating Magic/Kareem/Bird. In addition to his stacked title.

Great point.

Jasper
01-03-2023, 01:19 AM
If the Spurs had also won in 2013 would we think any differently of Duncan?

well he is considered the best PF of all time.

legacy's are hard to beat. Even talking GOAT w/titles.

Axe
01-03-2023, 02:24 AM
If the Spurs had also won in 2013 would we think any differently of Duncan?
Probably. But even by then, he already has three finals mvps under his arsenal. Which is thrice the amount of what your hero has rn.