Do you think a pre injury Derrick Rose can average 30 ppg in today's NBA??

[Lebron23]

He was so damn good, and very fast during his prime. He would be a much tougher to defend in the freedom of nba movement era.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v0g4nyveP8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybOi639tb7U

[Phoenix]

If you literally just transplanted him into 2022 without taking into account whether he works on his 3 point shooting? Ja is dropping 27 with 1.5 3point attempts so I dont see why Rose couldn't drop 28-30 on the right team. He has a very comparable player nowadays to gauge that.

[Full Court]

If you literally just transplanted him into 2022 without taking into account whether he works on his 3 point shooting? Ja is dropping 27 with 1.5 3point attempts so I dont see why Rose couldn't drop 28-30 on the right team. He has a very comparable player nowadays to gauge that.

I was going to say exactly this.

[Yeezy]

OP is working for jeff. he pumps out so many meaningless threads every day

still not sure if its a gimmick account

[MrFonzworth]

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[Lebron23]

If you literally just transplanted him into 2022 without taking into account whether he works on his 3 point shooting? Ja is dropping 27 with 1.5 3point attempts so I dont see why Rose couldn't drop 28-30 on the right team. He has a very comparable player nowadays to gauge that.

This is a good poster.

[HoopsNY]

If you literally just transplanted him into 2022 without taking into account whether he works on his 3 point shooting? Ja is dropping 27 with 1.5 3point attempts so I dont see why Rose couldn't drop 28-30 on the right team. He has a very comparable player nowadays to gauge that.

He'd easily average 30. Rose in the last 5 seasons is shooting 36% from 3pt range on 3 attempts. Intuition tells me that he'd probably shoot more with more FGA, so 30 PPG on 35% is basically guaranteed.

[Full Court]

This is a good poster.

^This is not.

[Sportal]

I'm glad we've been blessed with Ja Morant. Imagine having D.Rose for over a decade then Morant shows up, woulda been sick. But yeah, I think Rose could really do whatever he wants with the league right now, if anything, Rose played in a more stacked time for PGs who actually played D.

[Axe]

Too athletic for a PG.

[PeroAntic]

He'd easily average 30. Rose in the last 5 seasons is shooting 36% from 3pt range on 3 attempts. Intuition tells me that he'd probably shoot more with more FGA, so 30 PPG on 35% is basically guaranteed.

In a scenario where Rose doesn't get injured, Im not sure he would develop his three ball because he would have little incentive for that when he can score in the paint as much as he wants. Today he would be a mini Zion with more playmaking.

[RRR3]

He’d be putting up what Ja does so probably if he chucked for it.

[HoopsNY]

In a scenario where Rose doesn't get injured, Im not sure he would develop his three ball because he would have little incentive for that when he can score in the paint as much as he wants. Today he would be a mini Zion with more playmaking.

I'm not sure I agree. He was already averaging nearly 5 attempts in 2011 and 2012, and he shot 33%. Most players will improve with consistent shooting, and Rose was obviously improving from his 2009 and 2010 seasons where he shot just 24%. So in today's game, I think him shooting 35% is very likely.

[NBAGOAT]

yes but like ja he wouldnt be that efficient. You need an outside jumpshot to be efficient as a guard unless you're like giannis or zion. Ja is at 55% ts rn which is 2% below league average, Rose was slightly above average in 11,12 and a bit better player than ja so he could put up like 58% ts. That sounds good but we're in different era. only 3 of the top 20 scorers in league are below 58; trae, ja and anthony edwards.

[PeroAntic]

I'm not sure I agree. He was already averaging nearly 5 attempts in 2011 and 2012, and he shot 33%. Most players will improve with consistent shooting, and Rose was obviously improving from his 2009 and 2010 seasons where he shot just 24%. So in today's game, I think him shooting 35% is very likely.

If you don't shoot a lot you don't improve and I doubt Rose would shoot a lot with all the open lanes.

[PeroAntic]

yes but like ja he wouldnt be that efficient. You need an outside jumpshot to be efficient as a guard unless you're like giannis or zion. Ja is at 55% ts rn which is 2% below league average, Rose was slightly above average in 11,12 and a bit better player than ja so he could put up like 58% ts. That sounds good but we're in different era. only 3 of the top 20 scorers in league are below 58; trae, ja and anthony edwards.

Rose has better ts% in Pistons/Knicks stints than his prime, it doesn't make him better. The problem with Ja is not the three pointer, its the midrange pull up, and Rose has this in his bag. its a crucial skill for a slasher.

[NBAGOAT]

Rose has better ts% in Pistons/Knicks stints than his prime, it doesn't make him better. The problem with Ja is not the three pointer, its the midrange pull up, and Rose has this in his bag. its a crucial skill for a slasher.

ja's 44% this year however on those pull ups, he's fine there. Rose had a better ts% because he had a much different role and was a bit of a better shooter

[PeroAntic]

ja's 44% this year however on those pull ups, he's fine there.
Sauce? Whats the distance for that stat? I'm not talking edge of paint floaters here where Ja is great.

[NBAGOAT]

Sauce? Whats the distance for that stat? I'm not talking edge of paint floaters here where Ja is great.

basketball reference 10-16ft. Nba.com has him at 45% from 10-14ft. https://www.nba.com/stats/players/shooting?dir=D&sort=10-14%20ft.%20FGA

[PeroAntic]

basketball reference 10-16ft. Nba.com has him at 45% from 10-14ft. https://www.nba.com/stats/players/shooting?dir=D&sort=10-14%20ft.%20FGA

Strange, I guess its just the eye test that makes Ja in the midrange seem awkward. Hes pretty bad from 15 to the 3pt line though, although that is not that important.

Either way point is ts% doesn't show nearly the entire picture of how effective (not to be confused with efficient) Ja is and Rose could have been in today's game.

[NBAGOAT]

Strange, I guess its just the eye test that makes Ja in the midrange seem awkward. Hes pretty bad from 15 to the 3pt line though, although that is not that important.

Either way point is ts% doesn't show nearly the entire picture of how effective (not to be confused with efficient) Ja is and Rose could have been in today's game.

rose would be very effective ofc, I was just making comments about what his numbers would roughly look like.

[PeroAntic]

rose would be very effective ofc, I was just making comments about what his numbers would roughly look like.

Yeah I get it. Its such a crazy story with Rose. He could do anything before the injuries so he was reckless and overconfident, and of course his efficiency suffered. Today's Rose is extremely efficient because he learned he has to pick his spots given his limitations. You can only imagine the best of both worlds, because unless Rose becomes limited athletically due to his injuries, he never learns to play in an efficient way.