Whenever I hear about what physical specimens todays players are I remember 2014.

[Kblaze8855]

Played one game without air conditioning in his entire career and literally collapsed:


https://youtu.be/5HHxkTHjBZo



Larry Bird didn’t have AC in a single home game of his entire career. Less an issue in Boston than Texas obviously but in deep spring and early summer for the playoffs it’s still hot.

In the 84 Finals it was 98 degrees on the court…10 hotter than the notorious game that brought Lebron to his knees. Bird had 34/17 on 15/20 shooting.




https://youtu.be/aHsmmGo-yFc



Cedric Maxwell said the lakers were soft and the Heat would get to them before that game. Kareem was on oxygen. Granted he was old by then.

The conditions players had the first 40-45 years of the league are just totally incomparable to recent times. We probably never saw the best of anyone back then.

You see guys now covered in the little suction cup recovery marks wrapped in weird tape drinking special recovery drinks and all. Guess it helps to play with all the extra muscle.

These guys are so finely tuned they can’t handle much adversity I guess. It would be a shock to the system being expected to play 82 games and 50 or so without ac.

What would someone like Leonard do?

Just fall apart totally?

I have to assume they could do it…just know it’s not intelligent. But after years of pampering maybe some can’t at this point.

[FultzNationRISE]

More energy, more heat bro.

Lebron's body is not just a holy temple, but also a furnace. The more muscle cells you got and the harder they work, the more oxygen you burn through, the higher your body temp, the harder your body has to work to keep cool.

Lebron camping without AC is the mark of an absolute physical Adonis, the deliciousness of which has never been seen before.

DEAL WITH IT.

[FultzNationRISE]

Also LOL @ "Bird didnt have AC in a single home game."

Bro he played in Boston :lol

Little bit different from San Antonio.



Don't make me ****ing page you to my office :crazysam:

[1987_Lakers]

The average weather in Boston in June is 78 degrees

Average weather in San Antonio in June is 93 degrees

[ShawkFactory]

More energy, more heat bro.

Lebron's body is not just a holy temple, but also a furnace. The more muscle cells you got and the harder they work, the more oxygen you burn through, the higher your body temp, the harder your body has to work to keep cool.

Lebron camping without AC is the mark of an absolute physical Adonis, the deliciousness of which has never been seen before.

DEAL WITH IT.

All kidding aside, Lebron in that era played with a rampant use of energy. When you combine that with his mass it makes sense that he of all people would cramp up in those conditions.

[FultzNationRISE]

All kidding aside, Lebron in that era played with a rampant use of energy. When you combine that with his mass it makes sense that he of all people would cramp up in those conditions.

100%.

[TheMan]

The average weather in Boston in June is 78 degrees

Average weather in San Antonio in June is 93 degrees

They weren't playing outdoors though, you consider all the lights and body heat from thousands of people cramped inside an old building, the temperature inside can easily be 10 degrees higher than outdoors. The point is, they weren't playing at a comfy controlled temperature back then...

[AlternativeAcc.]

They weren't playing outdoors though, you consider all the lights and body heat from thousands of people cramped inside an old building, the temperature inside can easily be 10 degrees higher than outdoors. The point is, they weren't playing at a comfy controlled temperature back then...

And they were used to it and the playing field was even. Who actually gives a ****?

It's a non point.

[Spurs m8]

This was due to 2 things....

His roid use and being a fvcking pvssy

40 year old Duncan and every other player were fine

Not the 6'8 feather though

This was such a LeBarry moment

[FultzNationRISE]

This was due to 2 things....

His roid use and being a fvcking pvssy

40 year old Duncan and every other player were fine

Not the 6'8 feather though

This was such a LeBarry moment


Yo square the fvck UP!!!!!!

[TheMan]

And they were used to it and the playing field was even. Who actually gives a ****?

It's a non point.

Well it was enough of an issue that Maxwell called the Lakers soft for not being able to handle it. This is an extreme example but the Packers playing in Lambeau in January vs a west coast team is definitely an advantage.

[Kblaze8855]

The average weather in Boston in June is 78 degrees

Average weather in San Antonio in June is 93 degrees


Put 20 thousand people in a small space. It’s hot no matter what it is outside. As I said the Boston “heat game” was hotter than the Texas one. There are pics of thermometers over 100 on the building. The 98 is just the official.

Besides it was often hotter than it would ever approach today.

Plus there were arenas that had shitty heat in winter. And not all the southern arenas had consistent AC either. The announcer would just say the AC was on the fritz today and you wouldn’t hear about it again. Wasn’t some major storyline.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Well it was enough of an issue that Maxwell called the Lakers soft for not being able to handle it. This is an extreme example but the Packers playing in Lambeau in January vs a west coast team is definitely an advantage.

And players today playing in ideal climates means they all have the same benefit, which means there is no benefit.

Making this thread is the same as saying the shoes sucked and training methods were inferior, but that means both offense and defenses weren't reaching full potential so there is no net benefit for either side.

It's a silly thread made by a silly man

[ShawkFactory]

Put 20 thousand people in a small space. It’s hot no matter what it is outside. As I said the Boston “heat game” was hotter than the Texas one. There are pics of thermometers over 100 on the building. The 98 is just the official.

Besides it was often hotter than it would ever approach today.

Plus there were arenas that had shitty heat in winter. And not all the southern arenas had consistent AC either. The announcer would just say the AC was on the fritz today and you wouldn’t hear about it again. Wasn’t some major storyline.

You could also say that those guys knew how to play in that environment though. When to expend energy, how to pace yourself, etc.

When you're all of a sudden thrown into that it's a lot different. Particularly when you play the way Lebron did then.

It's like a 17 year old kid taking 6 shots in a row vs a 60 year old man. The kid having a different reaction doesn't make him weaker, his body just isn't used to that specific thing.

[ShawkFactory]

And players today playing in ideal climates means they all have the same benefit, which means there is no benefit.

Making this thread is the same as saying the shoes sucked and training methods were inferior, but that means both offense and defenses weren't reaching full potential so there is no net benefit for either side.

It's a silly thread made by a silly man

This is the point I try to make about the scoring now. If it's easier for everyone to score then it's not an advantage to anyone.

[Kblaze8855]

Who said there’s an advantage between the players all on the same floor?

[ShawkFactory]

Who said there’s an advantage between the players all on the same floor?

People tend to ignore this. Maybe it's just agenda-based but it's a way too common to shit on the stars now who are putting up ridiculous numbers. Sure it's era inflated but people act like because Embiid is doing 33 a game that dudes in the 80s/90s are doing 40.

There's a general theme with some that because it's easier to score now, that players are worse. Maybe I'm paying too much attention to that sentiment but it's there.

[Full Court]

And it's also reason #34 why Lebron isn't even anywhere remotely close to being the GOAT.

Mentally weak.

Truth hurts.

[Kblaze8855]

A lot of that is built on the spoken and unspoken comparisons made. They can’t just say such and such had this or that. They say such and such did this and nobody was able to do it between now and Wilt.

Modern sports media doesn’t really know how to put a game in perspective except to get statmuse to tell them the last time something happened. Riding back to the house earlier I heard on a podcast that Giannis had the first 45 and 15 three game average since Wilt Chamberlain in 1964. It doesn’t directly reference the greats between here and then who didn’t do it but the implication is there that this is something special since they couldn’t do it and it’s presented absolutely without context.

You’d hear less backlash minus the comparisons such things carry with them.