Jerry Stackhouse: I wish I never played with MJ

[GrayGoat]

"I honestly wish I had never played in Washington and for a number of reasons...

"Things were still run through Michael Jordan. So, almost everything that Michael wanted to do [we did].

"We got off to a pretty good start and he didn't like the way the offense was running, he was only concerned about himself, he wasn't interested in helping his teammates... I was the star on the team, he was upset that I was leading the offense just didn't accept that I was better and his time had passed.

"The kind of image I had in my mind of Michael Jordan and the reverence I had for him, I kind of lost it over the course of that year."
https://i.ibb.co/tsNwzkK/CAD39-BE1-351-E-4-C15-B0-EE-F9-D5-B99-ED243.jpg (https://ibb.co/HzMLC14)

[Axe]

Looks like many teammates didn't get along so well with 1-9 dad killer, it seems. :ohwell:

[Axe]

Yikes. Ken ken doesn't realize mo williams won his only ring while playing with king kong.

[Im Still Ballin]

The team was better the year before Stackhouse got there. He was by no means a "star." Jerry was even worse the year after MJ left.

[GrayGoat]

The team was better the year before Stackhouse got there. He was by no means a "star." Jerry was even worse the year after MJ left.

MJ used up his talents like a succubus

[Full Court]

Jerry sounds jealous of MJ, just like the Bronie fluffers are.

[PP34Deuce]

Jerry was a chucker. Def not a good mix with MJ. MJ was still at 40 a better all around player than Stackhouse. Stackhouse could play 38 mins a game no problem and that's it.

[ShawkFactory]

guys who regret playing with lebron

- big Z
- mo Williams
- Carlos boozer
- Antwan Jamison
- larry Hughes
- Shaquille oneal



then what happened. I forget. something out of the ordinary

Big Z and Lebron were/are great friends. He even followed Bron to Miami and retired playing with him.

[Axe]

Big Z and Lebron were/are great friends. He even followed Bron to Miami and retired playing with him.
True.

[D-Wait]

How was he a "star" when he shot 40% from the field and 29% from three in 2002-03 ?

And it's not like he was held back by MJ, Stack's prior season with Detroit was just as bad.

[8Ball]

"I honestly wish I had never played in Washington and for a number of reasons...

"Things were still run through Michael Jordan. So, almost everything that Michael wanted to do [we did].

"We got off to a pretty good start and he didn't like the way the offense was running, he was only concerned about himself, he wasn't interested in helping his teammates... I was the star on the team, he was upset that I was leading the offense just didn't accept that I was better and his time had passed.

"The kind of image I had in my mind of Michael Jordan and the reverence I had for him, I kind of lost it over the course of that year."
https://i.ibb.co/tsNwzkK/CAD39-BE1-351-E-4-C15-B0-EE-F9-D5-B99-ED243.jpg (https://ibb.co/HzMLC14)

There is nobody that is surprised with this. Zero, not even jordan stans.

[8Ball]

guys who regret playing with lebron

- big Z
- mo Williams
- Carlos boozer
- Antwan Jamison
- larry Hughes
- Shaquille oneal



then what happened. I forget. something out of the ordinary

Big regrets :roll:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ec/0f/4c/ec0f4c2436d1d928714f0833905d4b33.jpg

[red1]

kyrie won a ring with lebron and regrets his time in Cleveland too

no he doesnt. he came out on the record saying that if he was more mature they would have won more rings.


he got wrecked when he tried to lead a team the way lebron led the 2016 cavaliers to a ring - the kyrie celtics experiment was a disaster and everyone saw that kyrie was never a leader:


https://fadeawayworld.net/nba-media/kyrie-irving-reveals-that-immaturity-and-isolation-may-have-cost-the-cleveland-cavaliers-more-championships-i-didnt-know-how-to-share-my-emotions

[Axe]

kyrie won a ring with lebron and regrets his time in Cleveland too
And kyrie has never won a ring yet without him lmao.

[Kblaze8855]

How was he a "star" when he shot 40% from the field and 29% from three in 2002-03 ?

And it's not like he was held back by MJ, Stack's prior season with Detroit was just as bad.

He was a star. Not some elite player but a star. Shooting like that wasn’t shocking at the time.

[D-Wait]

He was a star. Not some elite player but a star. Shooting like that wasn’t shocking at the time.

I know the efficiency of players wasn't that good / inflated back then, but imo Stackhouse wasn't as good a player to have an ego like that and act like he was superior to even past prime MJ.

[Kblaze8855]

Well yea he wasn’t on some other level or anything but being so much younger and the fact MJ came off the bench part of that year as they featured him? I can see how he expected to be the man from a basketball pov.

[ArbitraryWater]

doesnt sound good for MJ


this is the kinda stuff that makes you not want someone as GOAT

[GrayGoat]

Wizards were actually decent when MJ wasn’t hunting stats

[Xiao Yao You]

The team was better the year before Stackhouse got there. He was by no means a "star." Jerry was even worse the year after MJ left.

and he wasn't better than MJ :roll:

[Overdrive]

doesnt sound good for MJ


this is the kinda stuff that makes you not want someone as GOAT

This has as much weight as Bale talking bad about Ronaldo. Stackhouse had a huge ego, but no positive impact on any tram he played on. Just like Marbury. He was awesome to watch from time to time, but he alienated teammates and basically played for himself.

[Spurs m8]

Oh look, op is threatened by MJ again....20 years after his retirement.

Sick life, you virgin fvck

[ArbitraryWater]

This has as much weight as Bale talking bad about Ronaldo. Stackhouse had a huge ego, but no positive impact on any tram he played on. Just like Marbury. He was awesome to watch from time to time, but he alienated teammates and basically played for himself.


what are you refering to?

he might have had a huge ego, but this quote is quite specific and stackhouse doesnt seem ike the overy emotiona/dishonest guy.

[Overdrive]

what are you refering to?

he might have had a huge ego, but this quote is quite specific and stackhouse doesnt seem ike the overy emotiona/dishonest guy.

Nothing specific. Bale gave some hints in the past and tabloids jumped on it. Was just an example.

I can't judge if Stackhouse is bitter, but he was hyped from the moment he entered the draft as MJ's heir. Him and Grant Hill were the first real "Next Jordans" I remember of after "Baby Jordan" Harold Miner was just a bust.

While Stackhouse had a solid career he never panned out as expected. That said everyone knows Jordan was a bonafide asshole.

[FKAri]

This has as much weight as Bale talking bad about Ronaldo. Stackhouse had a huge ego, but no positive impact on any tram he played on. Just like Marbury. He was awesome to watch from time to time, but he alienated teammates and basically played for himself.

ArbitraryWater gets a text alert anytime Ronaldo is mentioned on ISH.

[90sgoat]

The team was better the year before Stackhouse got there. He was by no means a "star." Jerry was even worse the year after MJ left.

This.

MJ is a sociopath, but Stack is a narcissist that is in no way a star.

Stack is like Zach Lavigne or something, fools gold, selfish, low IQ, and only really became a name because he was a 6'6'' guard that went to North Carolina.

Stack is legit one of the most dissapointing prospects of all time.

[guy]

Not sure what he's talking about with them having a good start. They were 6-9 in the first 15 games when Jordan took on a reduced role on the bench. Thats a worse % then when Jordan started. Even worse for Stackhouse, they were 6-6 in the games Stackhouse didn't play, so they had a better % when he didn't play. Those are relatively small sample sizes, and and there's alot of nuances with stuff like that (the with vs without player x stats are always flawed) but there's no data indicating what he's saying.

[Real Men Wear Green]

MJ wishes he never played for the Wizards so it balances out. Stack was a star...I guess. He may not like Jordan but he absolutely benefited from being compared to him as a young player. Because he was an athletic wing from UNC with a bald head he was treated like a potential franchise player superstar. Unfortunately he really was not that good. He had the ugliest 30 ppg-ish season in modern NBA history. He didn't work in Philly alongside Iverson. At the time everyone thought that was because they were too ball dominant to function together. But we've seen plenty of cases of teams that featured two high scoring guards or two wings that dominate the ball. And since his time in Philly we've seen him play badly on the two other teams that tried to give him a prominent role. In Detroit after the awful 29 ppg season (40% from the field was bad even then) he got his roll or reduced to something more reasonable. Still missed a lot of shots but just going for star numbers instead of superstar numbers he was acceptable given that the era was poor shooting overall (and the defense could do a lot more to stop you). Detroit was a lot better and on their way to a championship...without him. What really exposed Stack as not being a true franchise player is the playoffs results Detroit experienced with him vs. with Rip Hamilton. Because understand that Hamilton was not an elite talent at all. Instead what he was was a guy that played well within a solid role. He could score just as much as Stack without dominating the ball and letting the "supporting cast" shine. Before he got traded stackhouse had a playoff series vs. Paul Pierce that I'll never forget. He was destroyed on both ends of the floor with there being no doubt whatsoever left as to who was the better player. That does is probably why Detroit traded him for Hamilton. A true superstar would not get annihilated by Pierce like that in his prime. Just being outplayed is one thing but he shot 32% for the playoffs that year. He was awful. Hamilton made that team better largely by being "just" a good player and not trying to be a superstar when you clearly are not.

[90sgoat]

Stack was the definition of "head down" black hole player, that if he had the ball, it wasn't coming back.

His kind of play would not be acceptable today.

Like a worse shooting Harrison Barnes.

[tontoz]

How was he a "star" when he shot 40% from the field and 29% from three in 2002-03 ?

And it's not like he was held back by MJ, Stack's prior season with Detroit was just as bad.


Yeah that is the first thing i noticed. Star players don't average 21 ppg shooting 40%

Stack made 2 All Star games in his career. :sleeping