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Manny98
01-13-2023, 07:56 AM
I have never seen a player that so consistently disappears and struggles to score in overtime

How df you go double OT and fail to score a single point

It's not just last night it's damn near every OT LeBron has played in :facepalm

Nowitness
01-13-2023, 09:29 AM
Having to carry for 48 minutes will do that to you, never before has someone been expected to be their teams best scorer, rebounder and playmaker every game.

nineiron
01-13-2023, 09:38 AM
Having to carry for 48 minutes will do that to you, never before has someone been expected to be their teams best scorer, rebounder and playmaker every game.

Lmfao, ok pal

Airupthere
01-13-2023, 09:59 AM
Having to carry for 48 minutes will do that to you, never before has someone been expected to be their teams best scorer, rebounder and playmaker every game.

No one is expecting him. At his age he should have figured out how to reorient his role and effect on the team’s capability to win at this point.

If he is still stuck with the bronball, I-want-all-stats-and -credit-to-myself mentality when he physically can’t do it anymore, then he is stupid for sticking to it.

Full Court
01-13-2023, 10:04 AM
Having to carry for 48 minutes will do that to you, never before has someone been expected to be their teams best scorer, rebounder and playmaker every game.

You must have not seen the game. He didn't carry at any point in the game. Westbrook was the one carrying the team.

Also, to answer OP's question, it's partly a matter of endurance. He's getting older, and he lacks stamina. And it's partly because defensive intensity ramps up in OT. He doesn't look nearly as good when teams don't allow him to just barrel toward the hoop.

FultzNationRISE
01-13-2023, 10:06 AM
You must have not seen the game. He didn't carry at any point in the game. Westbrook was the one carrying the team.

Also, to answer OP's question, it's partly a matter of endurance. He's getting older, and he lacks stamina. And it's partly because defensive intensity ramps up in OT. He doesn't look nearly as good when teams don't allow him to just barrel toward the hoop.

https://media.giphy.com/media/29HRejgahYenVsohB5/giphy.gif

Axe
01-13-2023, 10:29 AM
Yep, it really sucks for his most extreme and miserable haters to not see him do any stat-padding in overtime. :lol

StrongLurk
01-13-2023, 10:37 AM
OP with the major recency bias. How about you actual compile all over Lebron's performances in OT in his regular season career and come back to us with the actual numbers.

FKAri
01-13-2023, 10:57 AM
No one is expecting him. At his age he should have figured out how to reorient his role and effect on the team’s capability to win at this point.

If he is still stuck with the bronball, I-want-all-stats-and -credit-to-myself mentality when he physically can’t do it anymore, then he is stupid for sticking to it.

LeGM really let him down. They've been trying for 2 years to get an on ball decision maker on the team to ease the burden on LeBron and they settled on Westbrook. LeCoach can't be playing him 47 minutes either. An all around organizational failure.

Manny98
01-13-2023, 11:25 AM
OP with the major recency bias. How about you actual compile all over Lebron's performances in OT in his regular season career and come back to us with the actual numbers.

I haven't got time for that nerd shit I'm just pointing an observation

He vanished in OT against the Warriors in game 1 of the 2018 finals

Last month he disappeared in an OT loss vs the Celtics

0 points in OT against Philly earlier this season

Went 1-5 in OT against the Pelicans this season

I have rarely seen him play good in OT

Manny98
01-13-2023, 11:26 AM
Having to carry for 48 minutes will do that to you, never before has someone been expected to be their teams best scorer, rebounder and playmaker every game.
Luka does that on a nightly basis

nineiron
01-13-2023, 11:44 AM
Luka does that on a nightly basis

and while being a fat ass. you see Luka relies on SKILL more than athleticism.

whereas, LeNoSkill relies on stiff arming and travelling.

Nowitness
01-13-2023, 11:46 AM
Luka does that on a nightly basis

At age 22, and is achieving nothing, carrying means competing.

Bron was doing the same thing at Luka's age, but achieving, like when he got to the finals with Larry Hughes as his running mate.

nineiron
01-13-2023, 11:49 AM
At age 22, and is achieving nothing, carrying means competing.

Bron was doing the same thing at Luka's age, but achieving, like when he got to the finals with Larry Hughes as his running mate.

isn't it funny how bronies love to bring up the 'competition' when talking about how he beat a '73 win team', but then ignore the fact that he was able to make the finals so many times because the competition was weak in the east?

Nowitness
01-13-2023, 11:54 AM
isn't it funny how bronies love to bring up the 'competition' when talking about how he beat a '73 win team', but then ignore the fact that he was able to make the finals so many times because the competition was weak in the east?

From 97-14, the East had all but 1 DPOY, on average had 6.8 of the 10 best defensive teams and 7.2 of the 10 players who made All-NBA.

LeBron competed in the toughest defensive conference ever with his running mate giving him 12 a game.

bison
01-13-2023, 11:57 AM
Can't expect a guy with his age and mileage to go hard for 46 minutes, I don't care how much of an athletic freak is. I understand you don't bench Bron in OT, but he can still facilitate. The frustrating thing is he insisted on jacking up 3s during OT despite the fact he is clearly gassed. This was his shot chart last night :facepalm:

https://i.ibb.co/WtfnQQN/Fm-W-02-Gak-AEo-TYH.jpg

FultzNationRISE
01-13-2023, 12:01 PM
At age 22, and is achieving nothing, carrying means competing.

Bron was doing the same thing at Luka's age, but achieving, like when he got to the finals with Larry Hughes as his running mate.

Doncic made the Conf Finals last year at the same age and lost to a team comparable to the 07 Spurs. So their career trajectories are actually quite similar at that point.

I still dont think Luka has the same peak impact potential as Lebron bc of defense/athleticism, but their accomplishments by age 23 are very similar.

StrongLurk
01-13-2023, 12:02 PM
I haven't got time for that nerd shit I'm just pointing an observation

He vanished in OT against the Warriors in game 1 of the 2018 finals

Last month he disappeared in an OT loss vs the Celtics

0 points in OT against Philly earlier this season

Went 1-5 in OT against the Pelicans this season

I have rarely seen him play good in OT

Okay I guess we all have to rely on your biased, faulty memory to provide us with facts on this topic. Imagine if we had to do this for all basketball stats and players?

RogueBorg
01-13-2023, 12:12 PM
Having to carry for 48 minutes will do that to you, never before has someone been expected to be their teams best scorer, rebounder and playmaker every game.

If he's your team's best rebounder, your team doesn't have a very good rebounder, not at 7 or 8 rpg.

Manny98
01-13-2023, 12:16 PM
Okay I guess we all have to rely on your biased, faulty memory to provide us with facts on this topic. Imagine if we had to do this for all basketball stats and players?

I literally just posted 3 other examples this season where LeBron choked in OT :facepalm

red1
01-13-2023, 12:39 PM
It comes down to gas tank. His greatest strength is driving to the rim which you need stamina for.


Looked like an old man all end of the game last night.




Damn. Shoulda got that game.

StrongLurk
01-13-2023, 12:44 PM
I literally just posted 3 other examples this season where LeBron choked in OT :facepalm

You are the one who claimed Lebron is bad in damn near every OT he plays in. Seems like you are referring to his whole career.

Maybe edit your OP to clarify you mean this year. If you are talking about this year, some good theories are him being old as hell and also the fact that a couple of overtimes is a really small sample size. I mean, Lebron was bad basically all game yesterday, not just OT.

nineiron
01-13-2023, 03:30 PM
It comes down to LACK OF SKILL. His greatest strength is ELBOWING HIS WAY to the rim which you need stamina for.


Looked like an old man WITH NO SKILL at end of the game last night.




Damn. WOULD HAVE WON that game IF LEBRICK SHOT BETTER AND DIDN'T CHOKE IN THE FINAL SECONDS.


fixed

red1
01-13-2023, 03:36 PM
fixed

if you said shooting you might have a point


he started chucking at the end when he ran out of gas and it cost the game

Spurs m8
01-13-2023, 06:21 PM
Can't expect a guy with his age and mileage to go hard for 46 minutes, I don't care how much of an athletic freak is. I understand you don't bench Bron in OT, but he can still facilitate. The frustrating thing is he insisted on jacking up 3s during OT despite the fact he is clearly gassed. This was his shot chart last night :facepalm:

https://i.ibb.co/WtfnQQN/Fm-W-02-Gak-AEo-TYH.jpg

:roll:

Spurs m8
01-13-2023, 06:23 PM
It's part of his legacy

Remember when he put up like 50 points in that game 1 of the finals....then couldnt make a game winner and deferred...and then didn't make a single field goal in OT?

THAT sums up everything you need know

Airupthere
01-14-2023, 11:46 PM
Can't expect a guy with his age and mileage to go hard for 46 minutes, I don't care how much of an athletic freak is. I understand you don't bench Bron in OT, but he can still facilitate. The frustrating thing is he insisted on jacking up 3s during OT despite the fact he is clearly gassed. This was his shot chart last night :facepalm:

https://i.ibb.co/WtfnQQN/Fm-W-02-Gak-AEo-TYH.jpg

Isn’t this what his shot chart looks like mostly nowadays? He just stiffarms his way in mostly.