Victor Wembanyama has GOAT Potential

[eliteballer]

Just when you think you've seen it all..



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=957WHzuqmIQ

[highwhey]

is that nba distance 3?

[Im Still Ballin]

Just wait til he adds 40-50 pounds over the next half-decade. AD went from 210 to 253-260 pounds. Giannis went from 190-200 to 250 pounds.

[90sgoat]

He might, but if you put Bol Bol in the french league, he looks better than this.

This isn't the Euroleague.

Wemba leads in points, leading these guys:

Victor Wembanyama 22.1
Ronald March, Jr. 19.9
Marcus Keene 19.4
Matt Morgan 19.1
Markis McDuffie 17.8

Of course he has huge potential, but keep in mind Luka was leading and winning the Euroleague at 17 against the actual serious competition.

His trajectory looks to be more like Porzingis/Giannis.

[Wally450]

Wait until he puts on some muscle and you start posting pictures upon pictures of him to prove he’s juicing.

[Axe]

Better pray he doesn't become injury prone.

[Full Court]

Yeah, he has GOAT potential, but so do/did a number of players. Lebron, Kobe, Giannis, Luka, KD all had GOAT potential, but none of them lived up to it. We'll see if Wembanyama does. It would be cool if he does.

[1987_Lakers]

Yeah, he has GOAT potential, but so do/did a number of players. Lebron, Kobe, Giannis, Luka, KD all had GOAT potential, but none of them lived up to it. We'll see if Wembanyama does. It would be cool if he does.

Such a weird post. "Giannis, Luka, & KD had GOAT potential, none lived up to it".

I've never seen anyone say these players had GOAT potential, to act like they fell short based off something that was never even applied to them is funny. And not to mention Luka is only 23.

[highwhey]

LeBron has set such a high bar, i cant see anyone reaching that.

[Patrick Chewing]

And he will waste away on the Pistons. It's clear as day that David Stern needs to rig the draft again and get this man on the Knicks.

[FKAri]

And he will waste away on the Pistons. It's clear as day that David Stern needs to rig the draft again and get this man on the Knicks.

So God can punish the Knicks by giving the kid bum knees and ensuring no championship for another 30 years?

[Phoenix]

There's alot that goes into 'GOAT potential' beyond skills/talent. Circumstances, consistency, resilience, some sliver of luck, good health..... 'we'll see' is where I'm at( which is where I'm at with guys who've already proven their mettle against NBA competition).

[zeerghit]

He might, but if you put Bol Bol in the french league, he looks better than this.

This isn't the Euroleague.

Wemba leads in points, leading these guys:

Victor Wembanyama 22.1
Ronald March, Jr. 19.9
Marcus Keene 19.4
Matt Morgan 19.1
Markis McDuffie 17.8

Of course he has huge potential, but keep in mind Luka was leading and winning the Euroleague at 17 against the actual serious competition.

His trajectory looks to be more like Porzingis/Giannis.
Bol Bol is way to slow(awkward) for Euroleague, and his transition dunks(layups) not gonna work in Euroleague aswell

[Overdrive]

Yeah, he has GOAT potential, but so do/did a number of players. Lebron, Kobe, Giannis, Luka, KD all had GOAT potential, but none of them lived up to it. We'll see if Wembanyama does. It would be cool if he does.

These players are top 20 and/or have potential to get in and climb up the rankings. That's not unfullfilled potential. Wiggins is.

[Full Court]

Such a weird post. "Giannis, Luka, & KD had GOAT potential, none lived up to it".

I've never seen anyone say these players had GOAT potential, to act like they fell short based off something that was never even applied to them is funny. And not to mention Luka is only 23.

I wouldn't call it falling short. It's a compliment. They showed the skill to potentially be the GOAT. 99% of players that have the skill will still never make it to the top.

And yes, Luka is still young, so his GOAT ship hasn't sailed yet, but I'd give lower odds of it than I would have a couple years ago.

[Kblaze8855]

Yeah, he has GOAT potential, but so do/did a number of players. Lebron, Kobe, Giannis, Luka, KD all had GOAT potential, but none of them lived up to it. We'll see if Wembanyama does. It would be cool if he does.


If you have a career like some of those guys that wouldn’t be falling short of anything. The problem is people decide who the goat is, and then treat everybody else like they’re garbage in comparison, for reasons beyond their actual accomplishments. Nobody actually caught Russell’s accomplishments and maybe not kareems(6 titles, 6 mvps, 20 time all star, all time scorer, 15-17 time all nba and so on). But we decide Jordan is it, disregard the accomplishments of the others, then act like everyone has to chase Jordan who never really topped the accomplishments of the people we put him above.

And my point isn’t that Jordan can’t be the best because if I had to pick with a gun to my head, one name no explanations his would be it, but at a certain point it’s just splitting hairs among people who had careers so otherworldly you can’t genuinely expect it from anybody.

If this kid comes in and has 4-5 rings , 4-5 mvps, scores 37000, is 18 times all nba and all that….


Hes had a goat level career regardless of if you personally concede the title. At some point, we’re just arbitrarily assigning value to the accomplishments that back up our personal opinions. Nobody is ever going to catch Bill Russell’s accomplishments. We just don’t care, but we will keep acting like other people can’t catch Jordan without his accomplishments. It’s all just rigging the race to get the winner we want.

We don’t need to be out here downplaying the greatness of guys like Kobe/Lebron/next guy as if simply being better at basketball guarantees accomplishments on that tier.

Wemby could be better than Lebron or Duncan and not have close to that career because too much has to fall in line for such careers to happen.

All you can do is project the basketball playing ability. The rest isn’t something you can count on even if you have the game. And even if you have the game and the luck and circumstance to have a career like that most cling to their pick and deny you anyway. So then he “fell short” no matter what he did.

To me once you hit that top tier of guys there is no reason to say you failed to reach whatever status. Goat status to me is a level of basketball. Actually getting the #1 ranking takes a lot more than being good enough. But you can’t control that part.

[eliteballer]

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[eliteballer]

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[eliteballer]

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[Full Court]

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Whether the dude lives up to it or not, time will tell, but the hype is definitely justified.

[WhiteKyrie]

And yes, Luka is still young, so his GOAT ship hasn't sailed yet, but I'd give lower odds of it than I would have a couple years ago.

Correct. He hasn’t had a 2010 ECSF, 2010 free agency, 2011 Finals three peat moment of total failure yet.

[Johnny32]

Is lil mikey destined to be third all time just like his draft position?

[Axe]

Correct. He hasn’t had a 2010 ECSF, 2010 free agency, 2011 Finals three peat moment of total failure yet.
The fact that you continue to bring those up only show that you have some severe derangement syndrome about him.

[Full Court]

Is lil mikey destined to be third all time just like his draft position?

You can tell Bronies feel threatened. Lebron/Curry era is over.

[ShawkFactory]

I wouldn't call it falling short. It's a compliment. They showed the skill to potentially be the GOAT. 99% of players that have the skill will still never make it to the top.

And yes, Luka is still young, so his GOAT ship hasn't sailed yet, but I'd give lower odds of it than I would have a couple years ago.

There's only one GOAT. Of everyone that has ever played basketball. And even that is arguable.

Outside of Luka you just mentioned a few of the greatest who have ever played. Just because they had unreasonable expectations put on them doesn't mean they didn't live up to something.

[ILLsmak]

Help me out here to think of someone who proves me wrong, but the GOAT never ends up being an athletic freak, they end up being, sometimes, very talented athletically, but they need to be somewhat "normal" to have the drive / chip on their shoulder in order to make it happen. I think even LeBron was too far into the athletic freak category to get it, looking back. But he did alright haha.

Edit: "If this kid comes in and has 4-5 rings , 4-5 mvps, scores 37000, is 18 times all nba and all that…" <-- place a friendly wager on whether that happens? haha

-Smak

[Johnny32]

Help me out here to think of someone who proves me wrong, but the GOAT never ends up being an athletic freak, they end up being, sometimes, very talented athletically, but they need to be somewhat "normal" to have the drive / chip on their shoulder in order to make it happen. I think even LeBron was too far into the athletic freak category to get it, looking back. But he did alright haha.

Edit: "If this kid comes in and has 4-5 rings , 4-5 mvps, scores 37000, is 18 times all nba and all that…" <-- place a friendly wager on whether that happens? haha

-Smak

lebron, mj and wilt are all athletic freaks though.

[ILLsmak]

lebron, mj and wilt are all athletic freaks though.

Mj not. Athletic big hand, small feet prol avg johnson. Hence chip. Bron and wilt are in that they have no weaknesses athletically. Not even size. They dont have hunger. Ai was a freak of sorts but he was tiny. Mj was 6’4~? Perfect height just like Kobe. Shaq is an athletic freak. If u think of peoples skill level and who had goat skill, you are overusing freak. A freak is a guy who u look at him and his body and say he has goat potential. Mj not that. Def athletic tho n worked hard to stay that way.

-Smak

[Axe]

Is lil mikey destined to be third all time just like his draft position?
No pip?

[AirBonner]

Saying MJ wasn’t an athletic freak has to be the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen posted.

[ILLsmak]

Saying MJ wasn’t an athletic freak has to be the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen posted.

I see why u think that but u should think harder about what I’m saying. Im talking about i grew up next to a power plant once in a life time athlete. Mj was def crazy but u really think dudes like vince or kemp werent just as gifted athletically? The raw strength of kemp is supremely underrated. Same with ais stamina. They were nuts athletes, but the word “freak” has implications that they are almost beyond human. Nobody been like: shaq, wilt, bron. Wemb might break, but if he doesnt, hes def in a diff league than mj with the top top guys. Sorry if u dont see that. More likely ur just being a contrarian.

If u think wemb and jordan are on the same level as athletic anomalies, or wilt, or shaq or bron v mj, dono what to tell ya bud. There are levels.

-Smak

[ILLsmak]

I forgot about Giannis, for some reason. I dunno. But yeah, sorry for bein' me and trolling everyone. MJ was indeed a great athlete. He had a lot of gifts. I do still stand by what I said, when you are just a natural on the level of some of these guys, it's near impossible to get MJ like work ethic.

SHAQ, GIANNIS, WILT, BRON, WEMB. Which one are we saying MJ is more of an athletic freak than? I could see someone arguing Bron, but I think you are wiling out. Bron like 270 in his prime. There are prol other dudes I am forgetting, too.

-Smak

[Gotterdammerung]

Gotta agree with Smak, tho he's exaggerating his argument.

At the tippy-top tier of pure athleticism, I'd put Wilt Chamberlain, LeBron James, Shaquille O'Neal in there.
They combined size, strength, speed, and agility in ways previously thought impossible. Their physical attributes altered the game itself.

Next tier would be the high flying gravity defiers like Jordan, Carter, Dominique, and Doctor J. They electrified crowds with incredible leaps and mid-air acrobatics.

Third tier are the explosive & agile guards like Iverson, Westbrook, etc.

Where Victor Wembanyama falls is anyone's guess cuz all those other guys are finished products, but Victor has yet to reach his prime. He already has impressive agility and coordination for his size. He's not just tall but he has the BBIQ and skills to match. In a few years, we will have more evidence to rank him.

[bison]

Dude called for the alley oop at the 3 point line

https://x.com/bleacherreport/status/1712992780920746457?s=46&t=_ZfHr6gciEv6UU6vVpWDxg

[SATAN]

I am completely on board with stanning Wemby. Exactly what I needed as LeBron is approaching the end. Thought Luka might have filled the void but he's annoying as ****.

[SATAN]

He's played insane in the past two games :rockon:

[bison]

League is cooked https://x.com/thehoopcentral/status/1712995656099631403?s=46&t=_ZfHr6gciEv6UU6vVpWDxg

[bison]

23 pts in 22 minutes. And made it look effortless :bowdown:

[eliteballer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQTCC_gAxyI

[ILLsmak]

Def looks like he can do it. Not be goat, cuz like I said, it's 2 ez for him to ever put in that work, but he's gonna be a problem for a long time if he doesn't get injured.

-Smak

[Axe]

Due to how he's often hyped in this league, what happens to him in the first 3-5 seasons is very important on how people would rank him someday.

[Soundwave]

I see why u think that but u should think harder about what I’m saying. Im talking about i grew up next to a power plant once in a life time athlete. Mj was def crazy but u really think dudes like vince or kemp werent just as gifted athletically? The raw strength of kemp is supremely underrated. Same with ais stamina. They were nuts athletes, but the word “freak” has implications that they are almost beyond human. Nobody been like: shaq, wilt, bron. Wemb might break, but if he doesnt, hes def in a diff league than mj with the top top guys. Sorry if u dont see that. More likely ur just being a contrarian.

If u think wemb and jordan are on the same level as athletic anomalies, or wilt, or shaq or bron v mj, dono what to tell ya bud. There are levels.

-Smak

Jordan was an athletic freak. He had the speed of a 6'0 player (a super fast one like Iverson) in a 6'6 body with a 40 inch vertical leap, giant hands, and the greatest in air agility the sport has ever seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJAIyXQ5wNU

This is Jordan's brother who is like 5 foot 7 ... the dunks he's able to do are impressive, Jordan has the same leaping ability but at 6 foot 6. Somehow Jordan retained the speed of a short player, but grew to 6'6 when no one else in the family is taller than 5'7.

[Lebron23]

Jordan was an athletic freak. He had the speed of a 6'0 player (a super fast one like Iverson) in a 6'6 body with a 40 inch vertical leap, giant hands, and the greatest in air agility the sport has ever seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJAIyXQ5wNU

This is Jordan's brother who is like 5 foot 7 ... the dunks he's able to do are impressive, Jordan has the same leaping ability but at 6 foot 6. Somehow Jordan retained the speed of a short player, but grew to 6'6 when no one else in the family is taller than 5'7.

Jordan is 6'4.75" without shoes

[Full Court]

Jordan is 6'4.75" without shoes

So basically 14 inches taller that you. Makes sense.

[highwhey]

gonna get tickets to see this dude when he comes to phoenix. the images look insane of him dunking over nba players.

[Axe]

Looks like he can dunk better than baldan too. Hmm...

[Full Court]

Looks like he can dunk better than baldan too. Hmm...

^Sure mark of an insecure moron. :lol

[Axe]

Jordan was an athletic freak. He had the speed of a 6'0 player (a super fast one like Iverson) in a 6'6 body with a 40 inch vertical leap, giant hands, and the greatest in air agility the sport has ever seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJAIyXQ5wNU

This is Jordan's brother who is like 5 foot 7 ... the dunks he's able to do are impressive, Jordan has the same leaping ability but at 6 foot 6. Somehow Jordan retained the speed of a short player, but grew to 6'6 when no one else in the family is taller than 5'7.
But in a 1v1 exhibition lost to an investment banker lol. (https://i.ibb.co/SxWM8PC/IMG-20230805-073843.jpg)

[imdaman99]

His defense is gonna be what sets him apart

[Full Court]

His defense is gonna be what sets him apart

True.

He's got certain fanbases SHOOK already.

[Axe]

His defense is gonna be what sets him apart
Agreed. Even the most delusional nostalgia stans who hate what the league had become these days because of the supposed 'no defense' can't help but praise him as well. (https://i.ibb.co/hX34jLs/IMG-20221001-103220.jpg)

[Xiao Yao You]

Agreed. Even the most delusional nostalgia stans who hate what the league had become these days because of the supposed 'no defense' can't help but praise him as well. (https://i.ibb.co/hX34jLs/IMG-20221001-103220.jpg)

I thought it was all about how many points one scores? Now D is noteworthy? :facepalm

[90sgoat]

Dude called for the alley oop at the 3 point line

https://x.com/bleacherreport/status/1712992780920746457?s=46&t=_ZfHr6gciEv6UU6vVpWDxg

Awful defense.

[90sgoat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyvnm6TfmpQ

"Sky hook" lol.

The most basic of post hooks.

Still, this is something that Porzingis doesn't have in his game.

[Soundwave]

But in a 1v1 exhibition lost to an investment banker lol. (https://i.ibb.co/SxWM8PC/IMG-20230805-073843.jpg)

32,000 posts in 4 years about nothing, yeah nothing says "athletic expert" like that. Put down the Doritos bag and get out of your mom's basement and maybe head over to a gym and maybe play an actual sport (I doubt you can actually play basketball, maybe just try lightly jogging around a track) or lift a weight once in a while there buddy.

[Full Court]

Agreed. Even the most delusional nostalgia stans who hate what the league had become these days because of the supposed 'no defense' can't help but praise him as well. (https://i.ibb.co/hX34jLs/IMG-20221001-103220.jpg)

^Epitome of a low IQ poster. This guy has no clue about the game of basketball. :roll:

No wonder he's a Bronie fluffer.

[Full Court]

32,000 posts in 4 years about nothing, yeah nothing says "athletic expert" like that. Put down the Doritos bag and get out of your mom's basement and maybe head over to a gym and maybe play an actual sport (I doubt you can actually play basketball, maybe just try lightly jogging around a track) or lift a weight once in a while there buddy.

:roll:

[Axe]

I thought it was all about how many points one scores? Now D is noteworthy? :facepalm
Ikr. They're the same fools who keep on whining that there's too much threes being made these days. :confusedshrug: (https://i.ibb.co/L0mSP2c/IMG-20230715-055719.jpg)

[Axe]

:mad:
Nothing i've said earlier was wrong. But just because you're a bit triggered doesn't mean you have to take it personally, you know. :confusedshrug:

[8Ball]

^Epitome of a low IQ poster. This guy has no clue about the game of basketball. :roll:

No wonder he's a Bronie fluffer.

Banned again :roll:


What is this, the 7th time being banned in 4 months? What a pile of dogshit.



Full Court is the Dillon Danis of ISH. Talk a lot of shit + full of shit for brains, and still talks shit after everyone smashes him in the face. No honor, no intelligence. Just a rat.

[red1]

yeah it was obvious from the start


kid is going to have an incredible career

[Axe]

Banned again :roll:


What is this, the 7th time being banned in 4 months? What a pile of dogshit.



Full Court is the Dillon Danis of ISH. Talk a lot of shit + full of shit for brains, and still talks shit after everyone smashes him in the face. No honor, no intelligence. Just a rat.
https://media.tenor.com/4UUlhopGaKwAAAAC/giggling-cowboy.gif

[ILLsmak]

Jordan was an athletic freak. He had the speed of a 6'0 player (a super fast one like Iverson) in a 6'6 body with a 40 inch vertical leap, giant hands, and the greatest in air agility the sport has ever seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJAIyXQ5wNU

This is Jordan's brother who is like 5 foot 7 ... the dunks he's able to do are impressive, Jordan has the same leaping ability but at 6 foot 6. Somehow Jordan retained the speed of a short player, but grew to 6'6 when no one else in the family is taller than 5'7.

Hard to convince me that Ivo couldn't have played in the NFL if he wanted to. Ivo was diff. There is a whole spectrum of athleticism, but yeah, 'big hands, small feet (for foot work)' and his speed was good, but it wasn't AI level haha at that. Dude was really good at basketball?! 4sho.

However, if you look at the line up of... SHAQ, WILT, LEBRON, dudes who are basically MVP off physical gifts alone, I don't think he fits in there. As I said, I would throw in Giannis as well for another recent player (tho Giannis isn't on the level of those 3 + Wemby, he's a good example of someone who is too freakishly athletic to ever be GOAT). MJ got up every day and worked his ass off. When you are so far ahead of everyone as a 'true athletic freak' and you are competitively so far ahead of everyone else, that is not something you do.

Wemby is 7'5? haha. Plays SF? It might seem like I'm only talking about big dudes, but in NBA history there are a ton of athletic dudes. Bron is the smallest dude, but there is def a devil's advocate argument for MJ vs Bron. Be like his hands, his agility... but like I said Bron jumping 40, too ez. He's also 6'8 and weighs comfortably 50 pounds more than MJ. He also has RIDICULOUS SPEED. That's why people can troll him and be like yeah Bron isn't that good at (this aspect of basketball.) Same with Shaq... he's just big! It's BS, but you can't do that with MJ because MJ was highly skilled. He wasn't born with that high skill level, but he did have a great start, you are right. Still not believing a 7'5 SF is gonna put in the work to be GOAT but that's just me. Just like I never thought Shaq was gonna put in the work even tho he was my fav player and he is def top 10 (haters!!)

But yea MJ speed ain't Iverson. Maybe in a foot race they would be close, but probably not. However Iverson has a diff level of agility. I put Iverson on the athletic tier under those guys I listed w/ MJ. I put Rodman up there, too. Athleticism is a complex thing. It's just raw physical ability, and unfortunately in bball, height / size has a lot to do with it. MJ was special, but he's not anywhere close to the anomaly Wemby is. Sorry to anyone who genuinely believes that or doesn't understand what I am saying. It wasn't 'easy' for MJ from day 1. He had to constantly stay in the gym, both working out and practicing.

-Smak

[hateraid]

He needs steroids

[ILLsmak]

He needs steroids

He needs yoga and more foot planting practice. Weight or str esp if it affects his bones gives him nothing. Kd is good, why isn’t he? He’s facing diff comp and really should only be in paint on help. Id tell him to not stay there where he could get elbowed or have someone put their foot under him.

Let him get lil jump blocks inside and keep contesting perimeter w his full wing span. No need for him to reb big either. Go stand somewhere, catch, shoot haha. If ppl overplay take a balanced drive. More weight is just gonna shorten his career.

-Smak

[hateraid]

He needs yoga and more foot planting practice. Weight or str esp if it affects his bones gives him nothing. Kd is good, why isn’t he? He’s facing diff comp and really should only be in paint on help. Id tell him to not stay there where he could get elbowed or have someone put their foot under him.

Let him get lil jump blocks inside and keep contesting perimeter w his full wing span. No need for him to reb big either. Go stand somewhere, catch, shoot haha. If ppl overplay take a balanced drive. More weight is just gonna shorten his career.

-Smak

See OP and reread my comment lol

[Full Court]

His defense is gonna be what sets him apart

What's funny is that some people have so little understanding of basketball that they think we're in a high defense era.

[eliteballer]

He doesn't NOT need to put on a ton of weight with his frame.

Dudes that tall aren't built to be tanks, he would put too much pressure on his joints.

[Full Court]

He doesn't NOT need to put on a ton of weight with his frame.

Dudes that tall aren't built to be tanks, he would put too much pressure on his joints.

Yeah, I don't get why people are saying he needs to bulk up. He seems to be doing just fine as he is.

[PAOK]

He doesnt have to shaq-sized. But 10-15 more pounds of muscle mass (so around 240-250 in total), especially in the lower body would make a big difference is his ability to stand his ground against more physical opponents.

Durant is listed at 240, while being significantly shorter, and this size never affected his agility

[Kblaze8855]

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https://i.ibb.co/KqhDcFY/IMG-6602.gif

[tpols]

His hand eye coordination and fluidity at that size is extremely impressive... now I know why people are hyping him. There's never been anybody that tall that moves like that... maybe Durant or Sampson but even they are shorter.

[Kblaze8855]

Sampson moved like that, but with less guard skills. Sampson was pretty much in a giant tweener forward, mobility, wise and wemby is pretty much a giant wing. Seeing it now, it should be easy to understand why owners were offering the cash value of an NBA franchise trying to get the pick to take Sampson. But this guy is in a league that will actually let him explore his potential and do everything. Even if Ralph had stayed healthy, he was in a league that had a much more rigid view of what a bigman should do.

Wemby should be better than Ralph was even when healthy.

[Xiao Yao You]

Sampson moved like that, but with less guard skills. Sampson was pretty much in a giant tweener forward, mobility, wise and wemby is pretty much a giant wing. Seeing it now, it should be easy to understand why owners were offering the cash value of an NBA franchise trying to get the pick to take Sampson. But this guy is in a league that will actually let him explore his potential and do everything. Even if Ralph had stayed healthy, he was in a league that had a much more rigid view of what a bigman should do.

Wemby should be better than Ralph was even when healthy.

Sampson was best as a rookie at the 5

[Im Still Ballin]

So excited to see this guy play. More so on defense. San Antonio had the worst defensive rating last season; I think they can be average to above average thanks to Victor. He has roughly 3 inches of height, standing reach, and wingspan on Gobert. More mobile and fluid.

There's definitely a part of me that thinks he can have prime Utah Rudy defensive impact from day one.

[WhiteKyrie]

32,000 posts in 4 years about nothing, yeah nothing says "athletic expert" like that. Put down the Doritos bag and get out of your mom's basement and maybe head over to a gym and maybe play an actual sport (I doubt you can actually play basketball, maybe just try lightly jogging around a track) or lift a weight once in a while there buddy.

LOL damn

[ralph_i_el]

His IQ on both ends of the floor looks great. The defense is monstrous. The jumper looks nice. Sky's the limit.

[Full Court]

32,000 posts in 4 years about nothing, yeah nothing says "athletic expert" like that. Put down the Doritos bag and get out of your mom's basement and maybe head over to a gym and maybe play an actual sport (I doubt you can actually play basketball, maybe just try lightly jogging around a track) or lift a weight once in a while there buddy.

:lebronamazed:

[Xiao Yao You]

Yeah, the guy's legit. It's hilarious that some people keep harping about "Bu-bu-bu-but INJURIES!!!" when the guy hasn't even been injured yet.

:biggums:

no one his size has ever stayed healthy and lived up to the hype. The odds are against him. Hopefully he beats the odds

[Full Court]

His IQ on both ends of the floor looks great. The defense is monstrous. The jumper looks nice. Sky's the limit.

Yeah, the guy's legit. It's hilarious that some people keep harping about "Bu-bu-bu-but INJURIES!!!" when the guy hasn't even been injured yet.

:biggums:

[Axe]

His IQ on both ends of the floor looks great. The defense is monstrous. The jumper looks nice. Sky's the limit.
Agreed. He just has to prove that he can live up to the hype and surpass the 1-9 dad killer as well. (https://i.ibb.co/hX34jLs/IMG-20221001-103220.jpg)

[Full Court]

no one his size has ever stayed healthy and lived up to the hype. The odds are against him. Hopefully he beats the odds

He'll be fine. Also hilarious how insecure he makes LeShrivel fans. He's in his rookie year, and he's already got them shook. :roll:

[Axe]

no one his size has ever stayed healthy and lived up to the hype. The odds are against him. Hopefully he beats the odds
It depends. Although there's some proof that it can happen to someone his build, like his possible future rival in chet holmgren. (https://i.ibb.co/JmpGnKz/IMG-20230528-095117.jpg) (whose thunder team made it to somewhere between the 4th-6th seed of the previous season)

[Xiao Yao You]

It depends. Although there's some proof that it can happen to someone his build, like his possible future rival in chet holmgren. (https://i.ibb.co/JmpGnKz/IMG-20230528-095117.jpg) (whose thunder team made it to somewhere between the 4th-6th seed of the previous season)

you mean Holmgren who missed last year because of a broken foot? He's only 7'1 not 7'5 or whatever

[tpols]

https://youtube.com/shorts/9MhgOCVCYEQ?si=ThxN-7cUaBMHqBzB


That's some alien level flexibility. Guy can do a whole split at 7'5. He's like dhalsim from street fighter.

https://www.giantbomb.com/a/uploads/scale_medium/11/115901/2109085-dhalsimsfxt.png

[Full Court]

you mean Holmgren who missed last year because of a broken foot? He's only 7'1 not 7'5 or whatever

Yeah, Holmgren has a short tenure.

[SATAN]

Putting on a show vs the Warriors. 12 points and 3 blocks in the first quarter.

[Axe]

Putting on a show vs the Warriors. 12 points and 3 blocks in the first quarter.
:applause: (https://i.ibb.co/g4tnXnv/IMG-20230626-052542.jpg)

[Phoenix]

I'm too old to fall for hype, and its only preseason but......this guy is making it look way too easy out there. Basically like a 7'4 KD but with DPOY level impact. Challenges everything he's even remotely in the vicinity of, quick enough for switching and gonna have guys hesitate to shoot or have to alter their shot trajectory just to get it over the top. Can easily see him being like All-NBA 2nd team, all star, 25ppg and 4 blocks a game this year.... as a rookie. Shit, I did say I'm too old for hype, right?!

[Im Still Ballin]

KD isn't the right comparison. Durant doesn't finish plays in the paint as Victor does, nor does he block shots and protect the paint. He's more like a taller and longer Anthony Davis with a better shot. I'm feeling good about my DPOY/blocks leader prediction, as well as San Antonio making the playoffs.

[nayte]

I'm too old to fall for hype, and its only preseason but......this guy is making it look way too easy out there. Basically like a 7'4 KD but with DPOY level impact. Challenges everything he's even remotely in the vicinity of, quick enough for switching and gonna have guys hesitate to shoot or have to alter their shot trajectory just to get it over the top. Can easily see him being like All-NBA 2nd team, all star, 25ppg and 4 blocks a game this year.... as a rookie. Shit, I did say I'm too old for hype, right?!

Ha you hyped up one of the best rookie seasons ever.amd made it sound like a normal thing that everyone should get

[Phoenix]

KD isn't the right comparison. Durant doesn't finish plays in the paint as Victor does, nor does he block shots and protect the paint. He's more like a taller and longer Anthony Davis with a better shot. I'm feeling good about my DPOY/blocks leader prediction, as well as San Antonio making the playoffs.

AD doesn't cross you over on the perimeter leading into a smooth 18 footer, either. Maybe it's best to say Wemb has elements of both but I dont think AD is any better a comparison, it just depends on what aspects of his skillset we're referring to. Really, so far this guy seems to be a 1 of 1. Nobody has his array of skills at that size, so you would have to look at different players. Saying he's a 7'4 KD isnt meant to be taken literally, because obviously he has an entirely other level on defense that we don't talk about with KD and as you state he will be far more potent as an interior force in terms of finishing plays at the rim, but he also has perimeter elements of his offense that apply more to KD, somewhat similar dribbling style, range and shot mechanics, and that long, wiry frame. That says KD to me more than it does AD. Heck I may be inclined to say he's a 7'4 KD/KG hybrid with shotblock leader talent.

[Phoenix]

Ha you hyped up one of the best rookie seasons ever.amd made it sound like a normal thing that everyone should get

How did you arrive at the conclusion that I'm saying it's a normal thing everyone should get? Genuinely curious because that wasnt what I was trying to convey.

[nayte]

How did you arrive at the conclusion that I'm saying it's a normal thing everyone should get? Genuinely curious because that wasnt what I was trying to convey.

Yeah my bad it was tongue in cheek.facetious etc.it was aimed at your rookie stats which I agree on.
My humor sucks it seems

[Phoenix]

Yeah my bad it was tongue in cheek.facetious etc.it was aimed at your rookie stats which I agree on.
My humor sucks it seems

No worries lol :cheers:

[Phoenix]

As an aside, its pretty crazy to see that the majority of the top 10 are non-Americans and if this guy pans out as we all think he will, he'll be entering that territory fairly soon.

[nayte]

All good. Wemby is to fluid for anyone to be at that height shit is crazy

[Im Still Ballin]

AD doesn't cross you over on the perimeter leading into a smooth 18 footer, either. Maybe it's best to say Wemb has elements of both but I dont think AD is any better a comparison, it just depends on what aspects of his skillset we're referring to. Really, so far this guy seems to be a 1 of 1. Nobody has his array of skills at that size, so you would have to look at different players. Saying he's a 7'4 KD isnt meant to be taken literally, because obviously he has an entirely other level on defense that we don't talk about with KD and as you state he will be far more potent as an interior force in terms of finishing plays at the rim, but he also has perimeter elements of his offense that apply more to KD, somewhat similar dribbling style, range and shot mechanics, and that long, wiry frame. That says KD to me more than it does AD. Heck I may be inclined to say he's a 7'4 KD/KG hybrid with shotblock leader talent.

I'm referring to young Pelicans AD. He shot more jumpers and played more face-up. I see a lot of Victor in this highlight reel:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuPO0R9KSdY

[Full Court]

KD isn't the right comparison. Durant doesn't finish plays in the paint as Victor does, nor does he block shots and protect the paint. He's more like a taller and longer Anthony Davis with a better shot. I'm feeling good about my DPOY/blocks leader prediction, as well as San Antonio making the playoffs.

There really is no comparision. Wemby is kind of a new category altogether.

[eliteballer]

He may not be quite the unicorn I thought he was.

He still has GOAT potential, but he's only a couple of inches taller than guys like Kareem/Sampson and right now doesn't seem as athletic as them.

[eliteballer]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IWQmJs-2hcM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxRUPDjKlU4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1aKDDRhkCQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVjl0QRkLoI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSgqedZ4now

[ShawkFactory]

He may not be quite the unicorn I thought he was.

He still has GOAT potential, but he's only a couple of inches taller than guys like Kareem/Sampson and right now doesn't seem as athletic as them.

Athleticism aside, he has guard skills both with the handle and passing that Kareem and Sampson probably never even conceived of. Not necessarily their fault because it was never going to be okay to play that way in the first place so why even try. But Wemby does it.

[Carbine]

He may not be quite the unicorn I thought he was.

He still has GOAT potential, but he's only a couple of inches taller than guys like Kareem/Sampson and right now doesn't seem as athletic as them.

Victor has done nothing this pre season to make someone think LESS of him than they did before pre season. This take makes no sense.

So he's not as good as you thought, but still could be goat? What were you expecting, all the best attributes of Durant + Kareem with Amare Stoudemire quick twitch?

[Foster5k]

As everyone already knows, he just has to stay healthy. If he can do that, sky is the limit. That's a huge if though.

[Im Still Ballin]

He may not be quite the unicorn I thought he was.

He still has GOAT potential, but he's only a couple of inches taller than guys like Kareem/Sampson and right now doesn't seem as athletic as them.

Victor's wingspan and standing reach are significantly longer than both of those guys. Kareem's wingspan was 7'5"; Sampson's was less than that. Both of their standing reaches were in that 9'3" to 9'5" range. There were anecdotal stories about Bill Russell having a greater standing reach than both of them.

Wemby's got like 7" of wingspan and 6"-9" of standing reach on Kareem.

[Im Still Ballin]

You can kind of see how much longer Victor's arms are here:

https://media1.woopic.com/api/v1/images/1048%2Fmulti%2F3vmxl%2Fbasket-victor-wembanyama-rencontre-kareem-abdul-jabbar-a-las-vegas%7Cqkrszvf-H.jpg?facedetect=1&quality=85

[Foster5k]

Yao Ming was 7 ft 6 in, had the foot work, the touch, range, etc. He could have been in the GOAT discussion. The thing is, at that height, the injury bug to the lower body is at a higher %.

I really hope Wemby stays healthy. He's shown he has the tools needed for the job. He's only 19. He has so much room to grow and S-tier potential.

He might need to spend 1-2mill a year on his body. Spurs need to talk to all the experts in the field of health/medicine to make sure this guy stays healthy. Whatever it takes, just keep him healthy. If he can stay healthy, he has a legit shot to be in the GOAT debate when it's all said and done.

[JohnMax]

https://twitter.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1715556041876754707

[Xiao Yao You]

Yao Ming was 7 ft 6 in, had the foot work, the touch, range, etc. He could have been in the GOAT discussion. The thing is, at that height, the injury bug to the lower body is at a higher %.

I really hope Wemby stays healthy. He's shown he has the tools needed for the job. He's only 19. He has so much room to grow and S-tier potential.

He might need to spend 1-2mill a year on his body. Spurs need to talk to all the experts in the field of health/medicine to make sure this guy stays healthy. Whatever it takes, just keep him healthy. If he can stay healthy, he has a legit shot to be in the GOAT debate when it's all said and done.

Yao couldn't have ever been GOAT. Had offensive skills but too big and slow

[Phoenix]

He may not be quite the unicorn I thought he was.

He still has GOAT potential, but he's only a couple of inches taller than guys like Kareem/Sampson and right now doesn't seem as athletic as them.

Yes but he is basically a 7'4 small forward, in a league better suited for him to dominate even more than the players you list respective to their era. He's either too mobile and skilled for anyone close to his height, or too tall for anyone with the athleticism( maybe someone like Giannis, but he's giving up what? 5-6 inches?). And the league doesn't allow you to be physical enough for a smaller defender to get up in his shooting pocket, or else I would say the best way to defend him in prior eras may have been to put a much smaller player with lateral quickness and active hands to make him think long about every dribble he takes. But in this era? The rules are pretty much set up for this guy to be an MVP level talent from day one.

[ArbitraryWater]

His trajectory looks to be more like Porzingis/Giannis.

the trajectory of thes 2 couldnt be any more different

[Gotterdammerung]

Yes but he is basically a 7'4 small forward, in a league better suited for him to dominate even more than the players you list respective to their era. He's either too mobile and skilled for anyone close to his height, or too tall for anyone with the athleticism( maybe someone like Giannis, but he's giving up what? 5-6 inches?). And the league doesn't allow you to be physical enough for a smaller defender to get up in his shooting pocket, or else I would say the best way to defend him in prior eras may have been to put a much smaller player with lateral quickness and active hands to make him think long about every dribble he takes. But in this era? The rules are pretty much set up for this guy to be an MVP level talent from day one.

Victor Wembanyama might already be the league's best player.

It's just that nobody knows it yet. Not even Victor Wembanyama himself. :eek:

Once he does, it's over.
:cheers:

[eliteballer]

Being drafted by the Spurs should help with his durability in terms of how they manage him from a healthcare standpoint. These super tall guys are never durable.

T-Mac said when he got to the Spurs and saw how the organization was run from top to bottom he realized "wow, this is how it's supposed to be".

[eliteballer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFFFlbUfjTk

[Im Still Ballin]

And he's done it! First 20 and 10 of his career.

:applause:

[Im Still Ballin]

A 20 and 10 with five stocks. Noice!

[eliteballer]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IwK22bhaKco

[bison]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFFFlbUfjTk

Ngl, maybe not the smartest thing to try to posterize wemby but I do respect the audacity on smith’s part to try it

[eliteballer]

This is what I meant to post:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOhjg8kGXnc

[kawhileonard2]

Maybe top 10

[k0kakw0rld]

Maybe top 10

Not even top 75. Stop listening to the media lol

[90sgoat]

Not even top 75. Stop listening to the media lol

Way too early to tell, he is raw both in skills, physicality and mentally.

Shouldn't be playing in the NBA yet imo, would have greatly benefited from 2 years of college with a strength coach.

[eliteballer]

Dude WILL be great.

How healthy he can stay and how great are the questions.

[plowking]

Its odd.

Clearly very talented in terms of the athletic traits. But being that big, and playing the way he does, it almost takes away from some of the more effective things he can do.

I think the biggest upside for a guy like him to bring to any team is the defensive side. Able to rotate, track and stay on anyone and disrupt shots, etc.

I just don't see it from the offensive side of things. He will be good/great on that end, but some of his talents actually make it hard to place him and how he should play on the offensive side.

[Im Still Ballin]

Its odd.

Clearly very talented in terms of the athletic traits. But being that big, and playing the way he does, it almost takes away from some of the more effective things he can do.

I think the biggest upside for a guy like him to bring to any team is the defensive side. Able to rotate, track and stay on anyone and disrupt shots, etc.

I just don't see it from the offensive side of things. He will be good/great on that end, but some of his talents actually make it hard to place him and how he should play on the offensive side.

An extra 30-40 pounds will make a huge difference. We'll see him add that weight over the next 3-5 years. He'll also need to shift his mentality and embrace the center position and all its responsibilities. Things like setting proper screens, finishing plays in the paint, rebounding, boxing out, etc.

Even now he plays best at the five and with an actual PG in Tre Jones.

He's just too big to be floating around on the perimeter. Needs to take advantage of his incredible size by playing in the paint more. Hopefully he understands that and evolves beyond a fetish for Kevin Durant.

[eliteballer]

Biggest question right now that kblaze mentioned in another thread is his rebounding.

[Carbine]

It's really not a question. He's very good in traffic on the boards. His on/off numbers suggest the team gains control of the ball far more with him than without him when a shot goes up and it is easy to see with the eye test as well.

[RRR3]

Eliteballer was right about something basketball related wow.

[eliteballer]

https://i.pinimg.com/474x/9b/c7/87/9bc787078fdbd1b9df8661c1021c7747.jpg

[Hey Yo]

An extra 30-40 pounds will make a huge difference. We'll see him add that weight over the next 3-5 years. He'll also need to shift his mentality and embrace the center position and all its responsibilities. Things like setting proper screens, finishing plays in the paint, rebounding, boxing out, etc.

Even now he plays best at the five and with an actual PG in Tre Jones.

He's just too big to be floating around on the perimeter. Needs to take advantage of his incredible size by playing in the paint more. Hopefully he understands that and evolves beyond a fetish for Kevin Durant.

You're fukkin' high, chico

[red1]

everyone saw this coming.


that first person video of him draining threes and showing how low the rim is at his height - it was laughable.




basketball is literally easy for him

[kawhileonard2]

He definitely will surpass Lebron so he will be borderline top 10 all time.

[eliteballer]

It's really not a question. He's very good in traffic on the boards. His on/off numbers suggest the team gains control of the ball far more with him than without him when a shot goes up and it is easy to see with the eye test as well.

Traffic is one thing with his length and athleticism. Doing it when things slow down to a halfcourt bump n grind where leverage, agility strength, center of gravity, quickness off the jump, and timing all factor heavily.

It's why guys like Rodman and Barkley were the greatest rebounders and not Shawn Bradley or Yao.

[90sgoat]

An extra 30-40 pounds will make a huge difference.

He needs to talk to Giannis and get his nigerian hookup with the roids.

No joke either.

If he does bulk up with roids like Giannis did, then it will make a huge difference.

Porzingis never roided and while he got much stronger, he is still too light to play the post.

[Axe]

youtube;https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-K8MbCYEs9s

This guy has a lot of potential but it seems he's far from being invulnerable.

[eliteballer]

Welcome to the NBA moment.

[eliteballer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEIroBJ78p8

[WhiteKyrie]

Not even close to going that full tilt yet

[Round Mound]

This dude has so many qualities that its kind of hard to decide which centers or players he needs to watch to learn how to play like them. He has a little bit of everything. Lets go Wemby!

[90sgoat]

Good player.

I like to watch.

[RRR3]

Not even close to going that full tilt yet
Terrified already :roll:

[BarberSchool]

His GOAT odds are like lottery odds.

There are 6 million more likely outcomes, from worse Porzingis to better Porzingis.

Another entire range of worse injured 7’3” Durant to better Durant.

But better than Mike with 6+ titles and 6 FMVP ? And fear in his opponents ?
I can hardly see it even if we let Vic do all the steroids he wants.

[90sgoat]

His GOAT odds are like lottery odds.

There are 6 million more likely outcomes, from worse Porzingis to better Porzingis.

Another entire range of worse injured 7’3” Durant to better Durant.

But better than Mike with 6+ titles and 6 FMVP ? And fear in his opponents ?
I can hardly see it even if we let Vic do all the steroids he wants.

He's not Zingis though.

Not a good shooter and much better at running and driving.

I'd say he projects more as Giannis, but probably needs some roids.

[Round Mound]

He should watch Tim Duncan. He can be a REAL Center versión of Tim Duncan.

[BarberSchool]

He should watch Tim Duncan. He can be a REAL Center versión of Tim Duncan.
If he can combine Tim Duncan’s defensive footwork and defensive positioning, and continue to evolve his offensive repertoire on some bully Durant and Giannis …. Vic can be something truly truly special all time. Top 5. But the odds he will be able to do all that are very low.

But GOAT ? Man … that’s tall as fu@k odds.

I can’t see any killer in him.
I can def see intelligence tho.

[SATAN]

Been great this game. Gonna be amazing to eventually see him on a team gunning for a championship.

[SATAN]

33/16/7/7 blocks without stat padding (unlike Luka) :applause:

[Axe]

Not dismissing his potential or anything but spurs this season might end up having a worse record tho than last year. I wonder what changed.

[RRR3]

Not dismissing his potential or anything but spurs this season might end up having a worse record tho than last year. I wonder what changed.
Pop sabotaging the team (hopefully) for a high pick. Seriously they're abysmally coached. Also Zack Collins got a lot worse and they played a huge chunk of the year with no point guard (which no team does).

[bison]

33/16/7/7 blocks without stat padding (unlike Luka) :applause:

As he gets more comfortable with his floor spots and becomes the main focus of the offense, it might be a short time before we start seeing stat lines like this from Victor on a nightly basis.

[Phoenix]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WUVYMZMiq6g
You got the Spurs G-leaguers seemingly going out of their way to avoid giving Wemby the ball. Gotta earn those next contracts afterall....

[Im Still Ballin]

According to Cleaning The Glass, San Antonio has a 113.0 defensive rating with Victor Wembanyama on the court. When he's off the court, that drops 11.5 points per possession to a 124.5 defensive rating. That's like going from the 7th defense to the 30th!

[Phoenix]

There were several times when Luka got into the lane last night and noped out of what would have likely been a shot due to Wemby being there. He's on the books for 3.5 blocks per, but the amount of shots that either aren't taken or altered to a degree that greatly reduces their conversion chances can't be understated.

[bizil]

When it comes to upside, there's NO QUESTION he's the TRUEST thing to a unicorn we have ever seen. His ULTIMATE UPSIDE would be like a 7'4 version of KD and Giannis INTO ONE PACKAGE! The final piece would be adding sick postwork like a Dream or Duncan on top of it. Sampson deserves MAJOR CREDIT for the shit he was doing at 7'4 back in the day. So I see Sampson in his game too. But he's not as good as Joker or Embid yet. Two of the top 5-6 best centers ever peak-prime wise. If you consider him a PF eventually you still got Giannis in the way. Who peak-prime wise is the best PF of all time in my opinion. SO ONCE he can eclipse those guys peak prime wise, THEN when gotta see IF he can come close to matching their accolades.

[Street Hunger]

He is incredible

[SATAN]

40/20/7/1/1 with 12 seconds left in OT.

(Brunson has 61 points btw)

[Spurs m8]

My boy will save the league

He will also overtake LeFraud faily quickly without having to push any narrative or collude....it will all be evident on court.

[Carbine]

Fairly easy to see Wemby as the best player of his era when we fast forward 15 years. The other best Under 25 players are Ja, Zion, Panchero and Haliburton. Chet too.

Not a terribly tough group to rise above.

[1987_Lakers]

Fairly easy to see Wemby as the best player of his era when we fast forward 15 years. The other best Under 25 players are Ja, Zion, Panchero and Haliburton. Chet too.

Not a terribly tough group to rise above.

Ja will fizzle out, can't imagine him having the longevity with his reckless play style.

Luka is still very young, I can see Wemby & Luka battle it out for best in the league 3-4 years from now.

[RRR3]

Ja will fizzle out, can't imagine him having the longevity with his reckless play style.

Luka is still very young, I can see Wemby & Luka battle it out for best in the league 3-4 years from now.
Wemby will obliterate Luka's impact if he reaches his potential.

[SATAN]

My boy will save the league

He will also overtake LeFraud faily quickly without having to push any narrative or collude....it will all be evident on court.

Casual m8 crawls from under his rock after a rare Spurs W. Probably posted from the TAB. :lol

[Axe]

Casual m8 crawls from under his rock after a rare Spurs W. Probably posted from the TAB. :lol
He's still thinking of the mighty king kong no matter what lol.

[1987_Lakers]

Casual m8 crawls from under his rock after a rare Spurs W. Probably posted from the TAB. :lol

When I saw his post, I immediately knew he was somehow gonna mention LeBron.

All these years later and still obsessed. :lol

[L.Kizzle]

Ja has one more season before he ends up in Gilbert Arenas territory. SGA has basically taken his slot.

[Axe]

Ja has one more season before he ends up in Gilbert Arenas territory. SGA has basically taken his slot.
He deserves it. Sga is superior on/off the court and is a lot more professional than him.

[eliteballer]

Beast.

[SATAN]

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[BarberSchool]

He’s already incredibly impactful defensively, and shows very promising spurts offensively.

It will take him a long time to fill out, if he does it to quickly he’ll get injured.
But when he does, to at least a Porzingis or KD build, the sky is almost the limit.

Will never be able to control an area laterally or physically dominate with force, like heavier bigs, but COULD dominate in a less deebo way with just reach and finesse and skill.

Very unlikely he will ever be the actual GOAT, but he has the long term potential to get in the top ten, if all goes well, and his shins don’t shatter unexpectedly.

[tpols]

Rewatching his tape vs the Nuggets is crazy.


https://youtu.be/3cAiBADZ5sw?si=j4x7x203vHK2UPca

:biggums:

Dude was dribbling and pulling up from 30 like Curry at one point.

[tpols]

@ 2:05 above is insane that a 7'5 center can do that. He's got that rare super tall Kevin Durant finesse athleticism but is half a foot taller than KD.

[FultzNationRISE]

Other teams must be pissed the Spurs keep winning the lotto when it's the Admiral, the Alien, and the Fundamental available, and everyone else getting top picks when it's Andrea Bargnani and Markelle Fultz

[tpols]

Other teams must be pissed the Spurs keep winning the lotto when it's the Admiral, the Alien, and the Fundamental available, and everyone else getting top picks when it's Andrea Bargnani and Markelle Fultz


The Spurs took Manu at 57th, Tony Parker at 28th, Kawhi at 15, and guys like Bruce Bowen went undrafted. Their scout team, development coaching, and management is beyond top rank.