The Celtics really got Tatum, Brown, and Colin Sexton/Kyrie for 36 year old KG/Pierce

[Kblaze8855]

They traded the pick that was Sexton to the Cavs for Kyrie.

KG and Pierce combined for like 19ppg in Brooklyn.

Nets really wanted that “Best team ever if everyone were prime” title.

Pierce, KG, Deron Williams, AK47, Joe Johnson, Brook Lopez and Jason Terry. Jason Kidd coaching.

That was when they had the Russian Billionaire and Jay Z as a front owner I believe.

Has any team ever gone all in to win now less successfully?

[Wardell Curry]

The Warriors traded Anfernee Hardaway and three future firsts for Chris Webber only to lose in the first round and then turn around and sent him to Washington at his request who sent them back three first round picks thus moving the problem to Washington who ended up doing a whole lot of nothing.

The Minnesota Timberwolves traded four first round picks and a first round pick swap which basically means five first round picks for Rudy Gobert. Early playoff exits followed.

The Cleveland Cavaliers traded three first round picks, two first round pick swaps, Sexton, Markkanen, etc, which basically means five first round picks for Donovan Mitchell. Early playoff exits followed.

[Real Men Wear Green]

As bad as that deal was what really killed that Nets team was the unexpected decline of Deron Williams. Besides the picks wouldn't have been so good if they hadn't made the deal to begin with... yeah Ainge may have an outstanding warrant in the city of Brooklyn.

[Real Men Wear Green]

The Warriors traded Anfernee Hardaway and three future firsts for Chris Webber only to lose in the first round and then turn around and sent him to Washington at his request who sent them back three first round picks thus moving the problem to Washington who ended up doing a whole lot of nothing.

The Minnesota Timberwolves traded four first round picks and a first round pick swap which basically means five first round picks for Rudy Gobert. Early playoff exits followed.

The Cleveland Cavaliers traded three first round picks, two first round pick swaps, Sexton, Markkanen, etc, which basically means five first round picks for Donovan Mitchell. Early playoff exits followed.

Young Webber is worth three picks but you have to surround him with talent to really reap the benefits... also I am pretty sure he had some injuries that ruined his time in Washington.

[8Ball]

They lost the Kyrie trade... Cleveland won that based off what happened with Kyrie on the celtics.

[Real Men Wear Green]

They lost the Kyrie trade... Cleveland won that based off what happened with Kyrie on the celtics.I guess that can be said but Irving being a weird as he has shown himself to be since then is an impossible thing to predict.

[j3lademaster]

2006 Knicks. Marbury balled out the season before averaging 22/8(which don't look like good stats anymore but was quite impressive at the time), went out to acquire Steve Francis who was on a max type deal for the next couple years. Traded for Eddie Curry with picks that became LMA(who the Bulls traded for Thomas, but I digress) and Joakim Noah. I know Curry doesn't sound like anyone special, but this was the worst era of centers ever. You have to look at Eddie Curry through beer goggles. All this to win 23 games.

Not sure if they were 'going for broke' exactly since the results were so bad, but trading all those picks for Curry and taking on Francis' contract made it seem like Starbury was Kobe and the Knicks were desperate to get a squad around him.

[Kblaze8855]

Having thought about it the Jazz traded for veteran Gail Goodrich trying to win with Pistol Pete and the pick they sent LA for him ended up being magic Johnson.

[Wally450]

And the Nets almost got to the Finals before the Celtics did. A Harden injury away from possibly being in the Finals. Granted the teams were put together completely different.

[red1]

prime danny ainge

[Axe]

Chicago trading away butler in 2017.

[AlternativeAcc.]

And still choked in the finals.

Nets will make it further this year.


Damn.


Proves free agent acquisition is king. Celtics have nothing to show for those trades and Nets have been title contenders for multiple years.

[Real Men Wear Green]

And still choked in the finals.

Nets will make it further this year.


Damn.


Proves free agent acquisition is king. Celtics have nothing to show for those trades and Nets have been title contenders for multiple years.

How is it that the Celtics have nothing to show when they are the ones that have made the Finals and are going to be the first seed this year? What has Brooklyn won? At what point do you feel any responsibility to make sense?

[AlternativeAcc.]

How is it that the Celtics have nothing to show when they are the ones that have made the Finals and are going to be the first seed this year? What has Brooklyn won? At what point do you feel any responsibility to make sense?

They showed they can beat teams without their 2nd option. Nets traded their 2nd option for a guy that didn't play. Bucks were without Middleton.

The only thing the Celtics have shown is that Tatum is a massive choker on the big stage.

You sound mad.

[Manny98]

How is it that the Celtics have nothing to show when they are the ones that have made the Finals and are going to be the first seed this year? What has Brooklyn won? At what point do you feel any responsibility to make sense?

Rings is what matters at the end of the day, nobody cares that you are the 1st seed

[AlternativeAcc.]

Rings is what matters at the end of the day, nobody cares that you are the 1st seed

He's celebrating that they've been healthier than other teams while their best player chokes in the finals. :oldlol:

They'll never win a title. I have them as 4th fiddles in the East behind Nets, Bucks, AND 6ers.

[Real Men Wear Green]

They showed they can beat teams without their 2nd option. Nets traded their 2nd option for a guy that didn't play. Bucks were without Middleton.

The only thing the Celtics have shown is that Tatum is a massive choker on the big stage.

You sound mad.

A massive choker with the only eastern conference playoff mvp award. You may not think much of it but no Net was able to beat him or for it. Nets have still traded that second option for a guy that doesn't play and haven't even beaten the injured teams toy want to disparage the Celtics for taking down.

[Real Men Wear Green]

He's celebrating that they've been healthier than other teams while their best player chokes in the finals. :oldlol:

They'll never win a title. I have them as 4th fiddles in the East behind Nets, Bucks, AND 6ers.

Yet somehow the standings have them in first. Guess what your opinion is worth in comparison?

[Real Men Wear Green]

Rings is what matters at the end of the day, nobody cares that you are the 1st seed

Ok. And the last time the Nets won a ring was?

[Kblaze8855]

And still choked in the finals.

Nets will make it further this year.


Damn.


Proves free agent acquisition is king. Celtics have nothing to show for those trades and Nets have been title contenders for multiple years.


Jason Tatum has won 8 playoff series at age 24. The Nets have won 12 since Doctor J left almost 50 years ago.

[AlternativeAcc.]

A massive choker with the only eastern conference playoff mvp award. You may not think much of it but no Net was able to beat him or for it. Nets have still traded that second option for a guy that doesn't play and haven't even beaten the injured teams toy want to disparage the Celtics for taking down.

I honestly can't decipher what you're saying. Is English your 2nd language or something?

Anyways, Nets were destroying Celtics in the playoffs several years ago. The point of this thread was saying how amazing the trades were for the Celtics.

Yet they got owned in the 1st round several years ago by the Nets just a few years after the trades. Nets would've likely won the title if they were healthy that season.

Free agent acquisition is king.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Jason Tatum has won 8 playoff series at age 24. The Nets have won 12 since Doctor J left almost 50 years ago.

You're talking about trades that happened 10 years ago.

Nets have been title contenders sooner than the Celtics have after the trades.

You made another dumb thread.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I honestly can't decipher what you're saying. Is English your 2nd language or something?

Anyways, Nets were destroying Celtics in the playoffs several years ago. The point of this thread was saying how amazing the trades were for the Celtics.

Yet they got owned in the 1st round several years ago by the Nets just a few years after the trades. Nets would've likely won the title if they were healthy that season.

Free agent acquisition is king.

It's so weird... you talk about the Celtics being owned a few years ago when the Nets just got swept and are riding a 9 game head to head losing steak. Do you have no self awareness? Just insane? Incredibly stupid, perhaps?

[AlternativeAcc.]

It's so weird... you talk about the Celtics being owned a few years ago when the Nets just got swept and are riding a 9 game head to head losing steak. Do you have no self awareness? Just insane? Incredibly stupid, perhaps?

1st off, cringe.

2nd off, I've destroyed the premise of this thread with facts. Nets have fared better since the trades... they were a legit title contender before the Celtics.

Celtics made the finals because of injuries. That's it. They faced teams without their 2nd options. Would the Celtics have won without Brown and Middleton playing? Or without Brown and Simmons playing? Of course not, you actual moron...

I'm sorry I destroy you guys so effortlessly. I know it's frustrating.

[Real Men Wear Green]

1st off, cringe.

2nd off, I've destroyed the premise of this thread with facts. Nets have fared better since the trades... they were a legit title contender before the Celtics.

Celtics made the finals because of injuries. That's it. They faced teams without their 2nd options. Would the Celtics have won without Brown and Middleton playing? Or without Brown and Simmons playing? Of course not, you actual moron...

I'm sorry I destroy you guys so effortlessly. I know it's frustrating.
They have faired better in spite of the Celtics making the conference finals four times and the finals once while they have made it to....? You are basing your assertion that they are now successful on what, exactly? You are still failing to make any sense. Change your name to Alternative Reality.

[Kblaze8855]

You're talking about trades that happened 10 years ago.

Nets have been title contenders sooner than the Celtics have after the trades.

You made another dumb thread.


They were in the ecf in 2018. By what standard were the nets contenders that the Celtics have not eclipsed?

And as I typed that I realized you have to be trolling. Guess my senses aren’t as acute as they were. It’s unlikely anyone is as stupid as you’re pretending to be right now.

[AlternativeAcc.]

They have faired better in spite of the Celtics making the conference finals four times and the finals once while they have made it to....? You are basing your assertion that they are now successful on what, exactly? You are still failing to make any sense. Change your name to Alternative Reality.

You continue to miss the point. Free agent acquisition is more important than trades. The Nets were able to recover from bad trades via free agency and become ACTUAL title contenders before the Celtics could, after said trades. The one signing of Durant completely changed their fortunes. The same way GSW signing Durant netted them multiple titles. Nobody fukking cares about the Celtics making conference titles and getting smoked. They were never actual contenders.


Free agent acquisition is king.

[AlternativeAcc.]

They were in the ecf in 2018. By what standard were the nets contenders that the Celtics have not eclipsed?

And as I typed that I realized you have to be trolling. Guess my senses aren’t as acute as they were. It’s unlikely anyone is as stupid as you’re pretending to be right now.

Celtics were contenders in 2018? They could've beat the Warriors? Or the Rockets?

Contenders means an actual chance at a title. Celtics haven't had that until last year, but only because of massive injuries to opposing teams. Bucks walk through them if the roles were reversed. You know that. Everyone knows that.

They haven't done shit. The trades worked our for the Nets because they were able to land the best player years after via free agency. It's as simple as that. You can cry all you want

[Real Men Wear Green]

You are the idiot saying the Nets accomplished more than the Celtics. They aren't being compared to the Warriors they are being compared to the Nets. Blaze is right, you likely are just telling but whatever.

[NBAGOAT]

Celtics were contenders in 2018? They could've beat the Warriors? Or the Rockets?

Contenders means an actual chance at a title. Celtics haven't had that until last year, but only because of massive injuries to opposing teams. Bucks walk through them if the roles were reversed. You know that. Everyone knows that.

They haven't done shit. The trades worked our for the Nets because they were able to land the best player years after via free agency. It's as simple as that. You can cry all you want

bubble year yes they were legit contenders. They really shouldve beat miami and would've had a chance vs la

[AlternativeAcc.]

You are the idiot saying the Nets accomplished more than the Celtics. They aren't being compared to the Warriors they are being compared to the Nets. Blaze is right, you likely are just telling but whatever.

I said they became legit title contenders before the Celtics, which is undoubtedly and unequivocally true. They were a possession from beating the champion Bucks with a hurt 2nd option.

Celtics only ever sniffed a title last year due to injuries to 2nd options. They haven't done anything before that. Making a conference title isn't an accomplishment if everyone knows you're not an actual threat. They got beat by the team who got smoked 4-0 in the finals.

[AlternativeAcc.]

bubble year yes they were legit contenders. They really shouldve beat miami and would've had a chance vs la

They got beat by the team who got smoked in the finals. Yep - sounds like the Celtics.

Haven't done shit.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Then the Nets have done less than shit. The end.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Then the Nets have done less than shit. The end.

But acquired the best player and became championship contenders before the Celtics

Free agent acquisition is king. Celtics are grizzlies of the eastern conference. Playoff fodder. Will never win a ring with their current core. Enjoy it!

[Real Men Wear Green]

Few agency acquisition is King of the Second Round. Congratulations.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Few agency acquisition is King of the Second Round. Congratulations.

Keep hanging your hat on zero titles and injury luck. It's the best those trades will net the Boston Grizzlies.

[tontoz]

The Nets have won only 1 playoff series since Durant has been there. :bowdown:

[AlternativeAcc.]

The Nets have won only 1 playoff series since Durant has been there. :bowdown:

How many have the Wizards won since then?

[NBAGOAT]

They got beat by the team who got smoked in the finals. Yep - sounds like the Celtics.

Haven't done shit.

4-2 isnt getting smoked

[tontoz]

How many have the Wizards won since then?

Zero. Congratulations, the Durant/Kyrie Nets are more accomplished than the Wizards. Want a cookie?

[AlternativeAcc.]

Zero. Congratulations, the Durant/Kyrie Nets are more accomplished than the Wizards. Want a cookie?

I've spelled out several times how injuries are why the Nets haven't accomplished more in the playoffs since Durants arrival, yet you barge in like a retard with a desperate attempt at a zinger even though you root for the worst franchise in the sport.

Nah. You can keep the cookie fatass.

[tontoz]

I've spelled out several times how injuries are why the Nets haven't accomplished more in the playoffs since Durants arrival, yet you barge in like a retard with a desperate attempt at a zinger even though you root for the worst franchise in the sport.

Nah. You can keep the cookie fatass.


After 4 years they should have more than just excuses. But at least they can be proud to have more playoff wins than the wizards. Maybe Durant will get a statue for that.

[AlternativeAcc.]

After 4 years they should have more than just excuses. But at least they can be proud to have more playoff wins than the wizards. Maybe Durant will get a statue for that.

So you double down on your failed attempt at a zinger. :oldlol:

1st season almost won a title, injured 2nd option
2nd season trade 2nd option for a guy who didn't play, effectively lose 2nd option
This season won 12 straight before injury and were 2nd seed. Durant MVP favorite.


That's the sample. Good one man.

[tontoz]

So you double down on your failed attempt at a zinger. :oldlol:

1st season almost won a title, injured 2nd option
2nd season trade 2nd option for a guy who didn't play, effectively lose 2nd option
This season won 12 straight before injury and were 2nd seed. Durant MVP favorite.


That's the sample. Good one man.


Almost won a title?

:roll:

Boston can claim they almost won a title. They were 2 wins away last season.

You need to win 16 games in the playoffs to win a title. The nets haven't even gotten half way there

[Axe]

I've spelled out several times how injuries are why the Nets haven't accomplished more in the playoffs since Durants arrival, yet you barge in like a retard with a desperate attempt at a zinger even though you root for the worst franchise in the sport.

Nah. You can keep the cookie fatass.
Lol you don't have to do uncle t like that. :kobe:

[AlternativeAcc.]

Almost won a title?

:roll:

Boston can claim they almost won a title. They were 2 wins away last season.

You need to win 16 games in the playoffs to win a title. The nets haven't even gotten half way there

Knew you'd bring that up. You're so predictable. Cling to semantics like an autist. *yawn*

Yeah the Nets having a poor seeding due to Durant missing most of the season led to them having to face the champions in the 2nd round.

And if you've followed this thread, the larger point was that that Nets became legit title contenders BEFORE the Celtics despite thr bad trades 10 years ago. Are you retarded? Can you follow along? Of course not. So desperate to try to land a zinger because I've bullied you in the past.

So desperate. So predictable. :oldlol:

[AlternativeAcc.]

Lol you don't have to do uncle t like that. :kobe:

He's a glutton for punishment. Sad guy lol.

[tontoz]

Knew you'd bring that up. You're so predictable. Cling to semantics like an autist. *yawn*

Yeah the Nets having a poor seeding due to Durant missing most of the season led to them having to face the champions in the 2nd round.

And if you've followed this thread, the larger point was that that Nets became legit title contenders BEFORE the Celtics despite thr bad trades 10 years ago. Are you retarded? Can you follow along? Of course not. So desperate to try to land a zinger because I've bullied you in the past.

So desperate. So predictable. :oldlol:


You sure do love your excuses :oldlol:

So by your definition the Sixers and the hawks must be legit title contenders, right?

[AlternativeAcc.]

You sure do love your excuses :oldlol:


So by your definition the Sixers and the hawks must be legit title contenders, right?

Sixers have an argument I guess, but the Raptors only won because of injuries. Its not close to being equivalent.

Desperation rearing it's ugly head :lol

[tontoz]

Sixers have an argument I guess, but the Raptors only won because of injuries. Its not close to being equivalent.

Desperation rearing it's ugly head :lol


I am not the one constantly making excuses.

Maybe the fact that Durant decided to team up with a complete flake has been a factor in the lack of success. Or maybe signing off on a coaching hire who had no previous experience. Or maybe trading away productive players to bring in buddy harden.

Nah let's just keep making excuses.

[AlternativeAcc.]

I am not the one constantly making excuses.

Maybe the fact that Durant decided to team up with a complete flake has been a factor in the lack of success. Or maybe signing off on a coaching hire who had no previous experience. Or maybe trading away productive players to bring in buddy harden.

Nah let's just keep making excuses.

He dominated the championship Bucks and was literally a centimeter from beating them, with a hobbled 2nd option(kiss of death), coming off a ruptured Achilles. They were LEGIT title contenders before the Celtics became legit title contenders.

I'm speaking facts. Context =/ excuses.

Keep changing the subject and being desperate. It's working out!

[tontoz]

He dominated the championship Bucks and was literally a centimeter from beating them, with a hobbled 2nd option(kiss of death), coming off a ruptured Achilles. They were LEGIT title contenders before the Celtics became legit title contenders.

I'm speaking facts. Context =/ excuses.

Keep changing the subject and being desperate. It's working out!



So they almost got to 8 halfway to the title and didn't get past the first round in the other years. Those are the facts that matter, wins and losses.

Teams make excuses every year and they mean just as much as your excuses now.

[AlternativeAcc.]

So they almost got to 8 halfway to the title and didn't get past the first round in the other years. Those are the facts that matter, wins and losses.

Teams make excuses every year and they mean just as much as your excuses now.

No, they almost beat the champions before the Celtics ever got close to doing so.


Do I need to summarize the thread for you again?

- kblaze asks if a team has ever failed as badly at winning now because they gave up picks that eventually became good players. Implying the Celtics have all the fortunes and the Nets blew their franchise up.

- my argument is thats obviously false, as the Nets became legit title contenders BEFORE the Celtics due to free agency.


The argument was never about how many playoff series each team has won. Winning playoff series while having no shot at a title is MEANINGLESS. everyone knows that. It's worthless. You get worst draft capital too. It's just bad. "But they get experience!" .. experience losing and not being title contenders yes


Durant missed the majority of the season and Nets had a poor seeding because of it. Doesn't mean they weren't legit title contenders. I've explained it several times and I know you're extremely slow. Do you understand??? Do you get it yet?

This is the part where you change the subject and most nonsense... proceed

[tontoz]

In case you forgot the Celtics made the ECF in Tatum's rookie year. So rookie Tatum get closer to a ring than Durant has since he's been with the nets :oldlol:

And then the C's made the ECF 3 more times, including last year when they made the finals. So that's 4 times that the C's got more than 8 playoff wins since Tatum has been there

Maybe Durant will be able to do it once with the nets. If he doesn't I am sure you will have some fresh excuses :lol

[Real Men Wear Green]

For the sake of accuracy I will mention that Tatum had only made 3 ECF. They also made it in JB's rookie year for a total of four ECF trips since Ainge fleeced the Nets. Continue.

[AlternativeAcc.]

In case you forgot the Celtics made the ECF in Tatum's rookie year. So rookie Tatum get closer to a ring than Durant has since he's been with the nets :oldlol:

And then the C's made the ECF 3 more times, including last year when they made the finals. So that's 4 times that the C's got more than 8 playoff wins since Tatum has been there

Maybe Durant will be able to do it once with the nets. If he doesn't I am sure you will have some fresh excuses :lol

I'm convinced you're retarded. I've explained they weren't legit title contenders so it's effectively meaningless.

I guess the Mavs almost won a title last year too. Let's just be autistic and pretend injuries and seeding and reality of teams abilities don't matter. :roll:

You're an embarrassment.

[tontoz]

I'm convinced you're retarded. I've explained they weren't legit title contenders so it's effectively meaningless.

I guess the Mavs almost won a title last year too. Let's just be autistic and pretend injuries and seeding and reality of teams abilities don't matter. :roll:

You're an embarrassment.



Correct, the mavs were closer to a title than Durant has been with the nets.

Wins matter. Excuses don't. It takes 16 wins to win a title, not 16 excuses.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Correct, the mavs were closer to a title than Durant has been with the nets.

Wins matter. Excuses don't. It takes 16 wins to win a title, not 16 excuses.

If you wanna die on the hill man :oldlol:

Nobody will ever actually agree with you that the 2018 Celtics were more of a title contender than the 2021 Nets, but tontoz gonna tontoz.

Stay desperate. I'll stick with having actual good/correct takes.

[tontoz]

If you wanna die on the hill man :oldlol:

Nobody will ever actually agree with you that the 2018 Celtics were more of a title contender than the 2021 Nets, but tontoz gonna tontoz.

Stay desperate. I'll stick with having actual good/correct takes.



I am not the one making excuses. I am the one talking about wins and losses.

The Mavs didn't use your seeding excuse last season. They marked the top seed in the league in game 7 on the road.

If the nets were in that spot and lost you would be crying 'bbut...but..but...they had a bad seeding :cry:

[AlternativeAcc.]

I am not the one making excuses. I am the one talking about wins and losses.

The Mavs didn't use your seeding excuse last season. They marked the top seed in the league in game 7 on the road.

If the nets were in that spot and lost you would be crying 'bbut...but..but...they had a bad seeding :cry:

Which further proves my point. The Mavs weren't actual title contenders despite making it further than the Nets. They got smoked by the actual title contender the team I said was the most stacked all season while morons like you downplayed them and pretended they werent... but that's besides the point.

Point is, how far you make it is *sometimes* a very poor way to judge if you're an actual title contender. Thank you for bringing up another strong data point to reinforce that reality.

Who would win out of the 2021 Nets vs 2018 Celtics with both teams healthy? Let's pretend for a second you actually know basketball.

[tontoz]

Which further proves my point. The Mavs weren't actual title contenders despite making it further than the Nets. They got smoked by the actual title contender the team I said was the most stacked all season while morons like you downplayed them and pretended they werent... but that's besides the point.

Point is, how far you make it is *sometimes* a very poor way to judge if you're an actual title contender. Thank you for bringing up another strong data point to reinforce that reality.

Who would win out of the 2021 Nets vs 2018 Celtics with both teams healthy? Let's pretend for a second you actually know basketball.



Lol there you go "both teams healthy". How many games were the nets healthy in 2021? How many teams are ever completely healthy in the playoffs?

Durant and harden aren't young players any more and are more likely to be injured.

Teams that can't stay healthy aren't legit contenders. They are the paper tigers that the press loves but don't win squat.

People have been talking up the clippers for years "if they get healthy" and year after year they disappoint. Last year the Mavs got farther than the clippers ever have in their entire history.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Lol there you go "both teams healthy". How many games were the nets healthy in 2021? How many teams are ever completely healthy in the playoffs?

Teams that can't stay healthy aren't legit contenders. They are the paper tigers that the press loves but don't win squat.

People have been talking up the clippers for years "if they get healthy" and year after year they disappoint. Last year the Mavs got farther than the clippers ever have in their entire history.

Even without full health they were a centimeter from beating the champion Bucks, who were way WAY better than the 2018 Celtics.

Harden has been healthy almost his entire career outside of that series so it was a fluke. Bad luck. And they still almost won.

So we've concluded that making it to the conference finals doesn't mean you're an actual title contender and that the Nets became actual title contenders before the Celtics did after the poor trade they made 10 years ago.



Thanks for playing.

/Thread

[Real Men Wear Green]

Title contenders that have never gotten out of the second round. But at least they have a nice excuse.

[tontoz]

Even without full health they were a centimeter from beating the champion Bucks, who were way WAY better than the 2018 Celtics.

Harden has been healthy almost his entire career outside of that series so it was a fluke. Bad luck. And they still almost won.

So we've concluded that making it to the conference finals doesn't mean you're an actual title contender and that the Nets became actual title contenders before the Celtics did after the poor trade they made 10 years ago.



Thanks for playing.

/Thread



The bucks had been consistent disappointments in the postseason until they won the title.

And older players being injured isnt bad luck. it's normal. Where is KD now? Out hurt again. How many games did he miss last year? 30 maybe?

Older teams get hurt more than younger teams
Nothing new here.

[ArbitraryWater]

the Nets were tite contenders in 2021, yeah, but the Cetics were tite contenders in 2020 and 2018, aready.

lets not make this a science. Its pretty simpe.

[Kblaze8855]

Seems the nets are going the Celtics route now.