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Kblaze8855
02-01-2023, 11:29 AM
Meaning not counting anyone you only know from highlights. People you watched in their primes during your lifetime as a fan.


Best



Transition scorer

White defensive player

Shooter over 6’5”

Ball handler over 6’7”

Passing 4(let’s say majority of career at that position)

Perimeter defender

Screen game defender any size

Eurostep

Spot up shooter

Slasher vs a set defense


Thats ten. Society teaches us to work in multiples of ten so I’ll stop.

Mask the Embiid
02-01-2023, 11:37 AM
Meaning not counting anyone you only know from highlights. People you watched in their primes during your lifetime as a fan.


Best



Transition scorer Lebron

White defensive player Captain Kirk

Shooter over 6’5” klay

Ball handler over 6’7” Joe Johnson

Passing 4(let’s say majority of career at that position) Ben Simmons… or dray if you want to follow the rules

Perimeter defender Andre Iguodala

Screen game defender any size big man embiid wings mcdaniels brothers (get over every damn screen when I watch and Caldwell pope (gets around screens like a mfer).

Eurostep Giannis cause he dunks that shit

Spot up shooter Otto Porter when he had a little run as the best player on the wizards in like 2016 17 or 18 I forget the year. John Wall was out of shape and beal was hurt or in a slump….

Slasher vs a set defense Lebron


Thats ten. Society teaches us to work in multiples of ten so I’ll stop.

Answers ^

ShawkFactory
02-01-2023, 11:39 AM
Meaning not counting anyone you only know from highlights. People you watched in their primes during your lifetime as a fan.


Best



Transition scorer Lebron

White defensive player American- Hinirch; Overall- AK47

Shooter over 6’5” Dirk

Ball handler over 6’7” Tmac

Passing 4(let’s say majority of career at that position) Webber the easy answer but I really only caught the tail end; I'll switch it up and say Pau. or Horford

Perimeter defender Tony Allen

Screen game defender any size Maybe recency bias but Jrue

Eurostep Manu- I feel like he invented it but idk; Wade's was perhaps more effective

Spot up shooter Korver

Slasher vs a set defense Wade


Thats ten. Society teaches us to work in multiples of ten so I’ll stop.

I did my best.

Kblaze8855
02-01-2023, 11:40 AM
I actually forgot Klay was tall as he is but Klay/KD/Dirk/Bird is a question depending on what one means by “shooter” I suppose.

Kblaze8855
02-01-2023, 11:46 AM
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That man could really blow up a screen game. He and Noah should have been together at their peaks. They would just erase modern offense.

Phoenix
02-01-2023, 11:49 AM
Meaning not counting anyone you only know from highlights. People you watched in their primes during your lifetime as a fan.


Best



Transition scorer Miami Lebron circa 2012

White defensive player No-one comes to mind

Shooter over 6’5” Dirk circa 2003

Ball handler over 6’7” Lebron circa 2012

Passing 4(let’s say majority of career at that position) Ummm... Chris Bosh circa 2012

Perimeter defender Jason Kidd 2006ish

Screen game defender any size Nobody comes to mind

Eurostep Nobody comes to mind

Spot up shooter Dirk circa 2003

Slasher vs a set defense D.Wade circa 2012


Thats ten. Society teaches us to work in multiples of ten so I’ll stop.

That's based on the 4-5 games I've seen live.

Wally450
02-01-2023, 12:26 PM
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Meaning not counting anyone you only know from highlights. People you watched in their primes during your lifetime as a fan.


Best



Transition scorer LeBron James

White defensive player Kirk Hinrich

Shooter over 6’5” Dirk Nowitzki

Ball handler over 6’7” Nikola Jokic

Passing 4(let’s say majority of career at that position) Draymond Green

Perimeter defender Avery Bradley (Not the best, but the first one I thought of. Worth a shout though.)

Screen game defender any size Kevin Garnett

Eurostep Manu Ginobili

Spot up shooter Mickael Pietrus

Slasher vs a set defense Dwyane Wade


Thats ten. Society teaches us to work in multiples of ten so I’ll stop.

BallsOut
02-01-2023, 12:39 PM
Leandro barbosa
Alex Caruso
Kobe Bryant
Shaun Livingston
Lamar Odom
Igoudala
Kevin Garnett
Ginobili
Klay Thompson
Dwayne Wade

zeerghit
02-01-2023, 12:46 PM
Meaning not counting anyone you only know from highlights. People you watched in their primes during your lifetime as a fan.


Best



Transition scorer Lebron

White defensive player AK47

Shooter over 6’5” Durant

Ball handler over 6’7” Green

Passing 4(let’s say majority of career at that position) Webber

Perimeter defender Allen

Screen game defender any size Jrue

Eurostep Marciulionis the first one

Spot up shooter R.Allen

Slasher vs a set defense Wade


Thats ten. Society teaches us to work in multiples of ten so I’ll stop.
just what comes to mind

Manny98
02-01-2023, 12:55 PM
Transition Scorer - LeBron

White Defender - Caruso

Shooter over 6'5 - Durant

Ball handler over 6'7 - LeBron

Passing 4 - Draymond

Perimeter Defender - Tony Allen

Pick and Roll Defender - KG

Eurostep - Manu

Spot up shooter - Klay

Slasher vs set defense - LeBron

Round Mound
02-01-2023, 03:11 PM
I did my best.

Good list.

highwhey
02-01-2023, 03:46 PM
Devin Booker
Jokic
Mikal Bridges

Overdrive
02-01-2023, 06:05 PM
Meaning not counting anyone you only know from highlights. People you watched in their primes during your lifetime as a fan.


Best



Transition scorer - Lebron

White defensive player - AK47

Shooter over 6’5” - Dirk

Ball handler over 6’7” - Grant Hill

Passing 4(let’s say majority of career at that position) - Chris Webber

Perimeter defender - Tony Allen, Gary Payton or Scottie Pippen. Others are close.

Screen game defender any size - Joakim Noah. Targeting him with PnR actually benefited the Bulls defense. He was that good.

Eurostep - Manu

Spot up shooter - Either Kerr, Klay or Korver.

Slasher vs a set defense - Wade


Thats ten. Society teaches us to work in multiples of ten so I’ll stop.

Some are pretty obvious to me while there are tons of great perimeter defenders over the years for example.

Airupthere
02-01-2023, 06:07 PM
Not a fan but PG and kyrie's games are smooth as hell. Fox was just too fast and Giannis powerful.

post
02-01-2023, 09:06 PM
i'll just say stockton since he's the all time steal leader and that probably bothers some people

Smook A.
02-01-2023, 09:58 PM
Transition scorer - LeBron

White defensive player - Marc Gasol

Shooter over 6’5” - Dirk or KD

Ball handler over 6’7” - KD

Passing 4 - Draymond

Perimeter defender - Tony Allen

Screen game defender any size - idk

Eurostep - Harden, Wade, Manu

Spot up shooter - Klay

Slasher vs a set defense - LeBron or Wade

tontoz
02-01-2023, 10:12 PM
Making my own category here:

Best playoff series I've seen from an individual player from someone who was watching all the way back to Bird/Magic

Hakeem vs Drob was the best I ever saw. Drob won the MVP that season and Hakeem had a huge chip on his shoulder. It was complete domination.

ArbitraryWater
02-01-2023, 10:12 PM
Transition scorer
LeBron James

White defensive player
Caruso, Tayshaun Prince or Shane Battier? Didnt see AK47

Shooter over 6’5”
Dirk

Ball handler over 6’7”
LeBron James? Thinking SF+ here

Passing 4(let’s say majority of career at that position)
Gasol, McHale, Garnett?


Perimeter defender
Lebron James

Screen game defender any size

Eurostep
Wade 100%

Spot up shooter
Ray Allen, Steve Novak, Kyle Korver, J.J. Redick

Slasher vs a set defense
LeBron James, peak Wade, Harden, but also have to mention guys like Ginobili, Parker, Morant, peak Rose, Westbrook..

ArbitraryWater
02-01-2023, 10:13 PM
Transition scorer - LeBron


KD is a horribe ballhandler. lets say mediocre but you get the point.

Fumbles the ball all the time. Most of his TOs are just losing the ball... carries it notoriously. Very weak dribble without the constant carry.

Jasper
02-02-2023, 11:24 AM
Transition scorer - Dr. J ,

White defensive player - Bird

Shooter over 6’5” - Dirk or KD

Ball handler over 6’7” - Lebron

Passing 4 - Chambers

Perimeter defender - Tony Allen ,J. Holiday

Screen game defender any size - Karl Malone , J. Holiday

Eurostep - Manu , Giannis
Spot up shooter - Pistol Pete

Slasher vs a set defense - James Worthy / Giannis

ArbitraryWater
02-02-2023, 11:28 AM
Transition scorer - Dr. J ,

White defensive player - Bird

Shooter over 6’5” - Dirk or KD

Ball handler over 6’7” - Lebron

Passing 4 - Chambers

Perimeter defender - Tony Allen ,J. Holiday

Screen game defender any size - Karl Malone , J. Holiday

Eurostep - Manu , Giannis
Spot up shooter - Pistol Pete

Slasher vs a set defense - James Worthy / Giannis


Giannis is NOT a better sasher against a set defense than LeBron :oldlol:


thats absurd

Jasper
02-02-2023, 11:32 AM
giannis is not a better sasher against a set defense than lebron :oldlol:


Thats absurd

90% of giannis points are slashing whether set defense or transition/ you haven't watched him his whole career like i have.

Overdrive
02-02-2023, 01:20 PM
Giannis is NOT a better sasher against a set defense than LeBron :oldlol:


thats absurd

You picked Battier and Tayshaun as best white[sic!] defenders. So you must have seen their primes live. How can you pick Lebron over Wade as a set play slasher then?

dankok8
02-02-2023, 02:09 PM
Transition Scorer - LeBron James

White Defender - Kirk Hinrich

Shooter over 6'5 - Dirk Nowitski

Ball handler over 6'7 - LeBron James

Passing 4 - Draymond Green

Perimeter Defender - Gary Payton

Pick and Roll Defender - Kevin Garnett

Eurostep - Manu Ginobili

Spot up shooter - Stephen Curry

Slasher vs set defense - Michael Jordan

Real Men Wear Green
02-02-2023, 02:15 PM
Transition scorer Jordan but there were a few guys that were unstoppable.

White defensive player I will uncomfortably say Stockton

Shooter over 6’5” KD

Ball handler over 6’7” No sure answer but Magic and Steve Smith come to mind

Passing 4(let’s say majority of career at that position) Antoine Walker. **** yall in advance

Perimeter defender Pippen

Screen game defender any size Robert Williams

Eurostep Ginobili

Spot up shooter Klay Thompson

Slasher vs a set defense Jordan

ArbitraryWater
02-02-2023, 03:45 PM
You picked Battier and Tayshaun as best white[sic!] defenders. So you must have seen their primes live. How can you pick Lebron over Wade as a set play slasher then?

haha why the sic! abbreviation.

I saw Batteri, I didnt see much of Prince but he seems long/wiry and moves well. He was prob a real pest in his day. Just not many coming to mind.

Im down with Caruso. That man is good.

Wade was at that level of slashing for only 4 years or so.

Overdrive
02-02-2023, 04:04 PM
haha why the sic! abbreviation.

I saw Batteri, I didnt see much of Prince but he seems long/wiry and moves well. He was prob a real pest in his day. Just not many coming to mind.

Im down with Caruso. That man is good.

Wade was at that level of slashing for only 4 years or so.

To put emphasis on blaze asking for white guys and you picking two black guys. Maybe you meant to put them on the perimeter defender list.

Wade was an elite slasher for about 9 years. He slowed down with it somewhere during the '13 season, while he still killed OKC with it in the '12 finals.

So you've seen Wade's elite slashing just as much as Battier's elite defense. IIRC you said you started watching in '10.

Yeah, Prince was crazy. He was on my shortlist for perimeter defenders along the mentioned ones, Battier, Bowen, Marion, Kidd and Eddie Jones.

At first I thought your Lebron pick for ball handlers above 6'7" was weird but after thinking about it. There are not many of that size that generally handle the ball and especially in your time of following.

Absolutely agree on Durant not being a good ball handler. His handles definately come from refs ignoring the rules.

Round Mound
02-02-2023, 11:50 PM
Magic Johnson when he came to Holland in 1993 and when i wen't to Houston i saw some pros from the Rockets practice. Don't really remember much.