bran got the points #1....russell got the rings at #1...mikey got?

[And1AllDay]

https://i.postimg.cc/k50RjLf5/MJ_was_a_fraud_big_time.png

[BallsOut]

Bran got #1 turnovers all time

[j3lademaster]

Jordan has ppg record for reg season and playoffs, plus minus record for playoffs, and playoff per. Jordan was a playoff machine, which is why most have him goat.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

I'll take 30 PPG over 13.5 years with 6 rings, 6 FMVP over:

15.7 PPG (Russell) with 8 HOF teammates / 8 teams in the league

27 PPG over 20 years with 4 rings / 4 FMVP.

Much tougher to win it all with 30 teams, much tougher to never lose in the finals. This trumps all the longevity / stacked team stuff.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Jordan has ppg record for reg season and playoffs, plus minus record for playoffs, and playoff per. Jordan was a playoff machine, which is why most have him goat.


Obviously. This longevity award might be the very last accomplishment of LESPN anyway - he's never going to win another ring. Imagine only winning it all 4 times in 20 years with all those +2 all-star teammates, team hopping, collusion, weak conference. Had LBJ matured into more of a team oriented player instead of turning people into spot up shooters, he could have been in the top 5 all time greats. Well, and worked on shooting outside of 4 feet. And footwork.

[And1AllDay]

Obviously. This longevity award might be the very last accomplishment of LESPN anyway - he's never going to win another ring. Imagine only winning it all 4 times in 20 years with all those +2 all-star teammates, team hopping, collusion, weak conference. Had LBJ matured into more of a team oriented player instead of turning people into spot up shooters, he could have been in the top 5 all time greats. Well, and worked on shooting outside of 4 feet. And footwork.

mike just had shortgevity tbh thats what held him back. little mikey mouse playing in the watered 90s disney era shoulda not retired his ass three times :oldol: shortgevity has its drawbacks

[And1AllDay]

Jordan has ppg record for reg season and playoffs, plus minus record for playoffs, and playoff per. Jordan was a playoff machine, which is why most have him goat.

per game stat is only ever brought on by shook mikey fan bois

no one cares about per game but the mikey mouse fan club clinging on for dear life :oldlol:

when i here 'per game' i see a scared 45 year old hangin onto their teenage dream player hero


brady most touchdowns, no one cares he played a long a career matter fact its celebrated
bonds most home runs, no one cares he played a long a career matter fact its celebrated
rice most touchdowns, no one cares he played a long a career matter fact its celebrated
gretzky most goals, no one cares he played a long a career matter fact its celebrated
nolan ryan most strikeouts, no one cares he played a long a career matter fact its celebrated

only retart mikey fans even say 'per game' becos they know their hero retired three times...he quit a lot. sorry but next its gonna be::

bran most poits, no one cares he played a long a career matter fact its celebrated

goats are

brady, bonds, gretkzy, nolan ryan, rice, lebran

[SATAN]

#1 worst 3 point contest performance. :confusedshrug:

[And1AllDay]

#1 worst 3 point contest performance. :confusedshrug:

:oldlol::roll:

shittttt

this boi satan dont miss :oldlol:

baaaaaaaaaaaaaaang!

[warriorfan]

the title of goat

[BigShotBob]

who unbanned you

[GrayGoat]

Op is never wrong

[MrFonzworth]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497012-theres-nothing-left-to-prove-i-will-stay-retired-until-le7631-gets-passed-bran-goat

Looks like the weirdo got his internet back on. Expect several threads of this lonely virgin talking to himself on different alts again

[RRR3]

Nolan Ryan being the GOAT is the most retarded thing I’ve heard all day.

[Spurs m8]

Mike has #1 ppg ever

Which is FAR superior to stat padding over a long period of time in the inflated stats era

#1 ppg is insane...

His CAREER average in the non inflated stats era is an average that LeBarry couldn't even reach most seasons :roll:

[Spurs m8]

Bran got #1 turnovers all time

This will never go away

[ImKobe]

Most Finals MVPs
Most scoring titles (10) despite only playing 11 full seasons in Chicago
Undefeated Finals record
Only non-big that won win DPOY & MVP the same season

[Full Court]

OP is right....alll MJ has is consensus GOAT. That IT. :roll:

[Axe]

Most retirements i believe.

[And1AllDay]

Most Finals MVPs
Most scoring titles (10) despite only playing 11 full seasons in Chicago
Undefeated Finals record
Only non-big that won win DPOY & MVP the same season

imagine saying scoring title when bran has the playoff scoring title at 7,631 :oldlol: checkmate bb boi

[And1AllDay]

Most retirements i believe.

:roll::oldlol: mikey mouse fans are fuming over this one too

[red1]

these baldan stains talked shit for years with the ringless jokes


now they talk about 6 finals losses


meanwhile:


But the team, led by Scottie Pippen and an increased role from both Horace Grant and B. J. Armstrong were able to lead the Bulls to a 55-win season, only 2 wins less than the 1992-93 team, which had Jordan.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/1994.html


https://i.postimg.cc/k5pXdN5h/Rivalry-Decade.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/82/58/b4/8258b40a364a43df2a37d20cdfaca2af.jpg

[red1]

all of those superteam jokes meanwhile jordan's team won 55-games while he was scrubbing it up in the minor leagues


hurr durr superteam :oldlol:

[2much_knowledge]

Got the honor and priviledge of being compared to the goats of other sports and still comes up on top

[j3lademaster]

per game stat is only ever brought on by shook mikey fan bois

no one cares about per game but the mikey mouse fan club clinging on for dear life :oldlol:

when i here 'per game' i see a scared 45 year old hangin onto their teenage dream player hero


brady most touchdowns, no one cares he played a long a career matter fact its celebrated
bonds most home runs, no one cares he played a long a career matter fact its celebrated
rice most touchdowns, no one cares he played a long a career matter fact its celebrated
gretzky most goals, no one cares he played a long a career matter fact its celebrated
nolan ryan most strikeouts, no one cares he played a long a career matter fact its celebrated

only retart mikey fans even say 'per game' becos they know their hero retired three times...he quit a lot. sorry but next its gonna be::

bran most poits, no one cares he played a long a career matter fact its celebrated

goats are

brady, bonds, gretkzy, nolan ryan, rice, lebranNah I bring up per game for Lebron as well. He has most ppg in elimination games, when stakes are at their highest. It matters.

And yes per game stats can be off if the sample size isn't large enough, but in Jordan's case he's up there in total playoff points so he has the correct context behind it as well. +/- otoh, is a lot more consistent.

top 10 all time in order: MJ, Lebron, Jokic, Giannis, Kawhi, Magic, Tmac, Steph, Durant, Olajuwon. Besides Tmac and Jokic, every player here is known for spectacular playoff runs. Though, I would argue that Tmac did perform well despite never winning a round, and Jokic is still young and plays well in the playoffs too. I have no doubt he'll win a few before all is said and done and have his place in there.

top 10 all time in per in order: MJ, Mikan, Lebron, Jokic, Shaq, Giannis, Hakeem, KD, Duncan, Kawhi. Another pretty consistent list.

I left out championships because they're team accomplishments, though 6/6 and 4/10 are both highly impressive. I never give Lebron any shit for his finals losses besides 2011 and MAYBE 14. 07, he was a baby and the Cavs didn't belong there, 15 was one of the most impressive finals performances I've ever seen and will go down as underrated because he lost and didn't shoot a high percentage, 18 game 1 was one of the goat finals performances and Lebron got robbed by: miscall on KD charge, which he created; a missed bunny by george hill, which again Lebron was involved in and created, missed ft's by George Hill, which would have been seen as a huge choke if he wasn't oneupped and saved by JR Smith. Not to mention KD warriors are the best team ever assembled.

So you see, Lebron has a strong case for goat. Why tear Jordan down when you have plenty of arguments to make to put Lebron higher up? Lebron is one playoff run away from breaking 8k points! When second place hasn't even broken 6k. All this while being 2nd in playoff assists to the one and only goat playmaker and passer.

and 45 yo Mike stan is hurtful :( . I still have a ways to go before the big 40, lemme enjoy my 30's.

[j3lademaster]

goats are

brady, bonds, gretkzy, nolan ryan, rice, lebranNolan Ryan is nowhere close. And hockey is the hardest sport to judge across eras. Gretzky played in an era of not only physically smaller goalies, but they literally had worse gear and technique. Watch a Gretzky highlight and look at all the goals he scores when the goalie doesn't even drop to the ice. Giving goalies bigger pads is like if we raised the hoops or made rims smaller. I completely understand the statistical dominance and I'm a huge Gretzky fan, but there's a reason only 3 modern players are in the top 20 in all time points.

[Hey Yo]

Mike has #1 ppg ever
Haven't you been crying the last 3mos that regular season stats don't count??


:cletus:

[ImKobe]

imagine saying scoring title when bran has the playoff scoring title at 7,631 :oldlol: checkmate bb boi

Scoring title is based off averages and Jordan had the title 10 out of 11 seasons in Chicago, the one year he didn't win the title he also led the league in total points. He has the highest RS & Playoff career ppg average and the highest ppg average in Finals history (or 2nd highest if you really want to count Rick Barry's averages in 10 total Finals games in '67 and '75) as well. No one's giving Bran extra credits for getting extra Playoff games vs 35-40-win teams in the first two rounds of the EC Playoffs for half of his career.

[Spurs m8]

Are bronies the only people - in any sport - that value longevity totals so much?

They're even more blemished given the inflated stats era

He used PEDs, scored on no D and also doesn't play D...no one is impressed.

Ps. Turnovers :roll:

[RRR3]

Are bronies the only people - in any sport - that value longevity totals so much?

They're even more blemished given the inflated stats era

He used PEDs, scored on no D and also doesn't play D...no one is impressed.

Ps. Turnovers :roll:
You try to use laughing emojis to mask the fact that you’re crying when you type. Hilarious.

[BallsOut]

I find it interesting that LeBron fans are often trannies, tranny lovers like RRR3 or both. That explains a lot.

[And1AllDay]

alright guys so bran got the points at #1....russell got the rings at #1...and lil mikey got? oh :(:ohwell:

[Spurs m8]

Most Finals MVPs
Most scoring titles (10) despite only playing 11 full seasons in Chicago
Undefeated Finals record
Only non-big that won win DPOY & MVP the same season

This reminds me of a BBC smashing OP

[Axe]

The heat retired jersey #23, mostly because it reminds them that jordan has played for two teams and retired three times.

[Spurs m8]

The heat retired jersey #23, mostly because it reminds them that jordan has played for two teams and retired three times.

You're so funny axey

[kawhileonard2]

https://i.postimg.cc/k50RjLf5/MJ_was_a_fraud_big_time.png

#1 all time in Titles, Finals MVP's and League MVP's

MJ = 6 Titles, 6 finals MVP's, 5 League MVP's = 17 Points total
Russell = 11 Titles, 0 finals MVP's, 5 League MVP's = 16 Points Total
Kareem = 6 Titles, 2 finals MVP's, 6 League MVP's = 14 Points Total
Lebron = 4 Titles, 4 finals MVP's, 4 League MVP's = 12 Points Total
Magic = 5 Titles, 3 finals MVP's, 3 League MVP's = 11 Points Total
Duncan = 4 Titles, 3 finals MVP's, 2 League MVP's = 9 Points Total
Kobe = 5 Titles, 2 finals MVP's, 1 League MVP's = 8 Points Total
Shaq = 4 Titles, 3 finals MVP's, 1 League MVP's = 8 Points Total
Bird = 3 Titles, 2 finals MVP's, 3 League MVP's = 8 Points Total
Wilt = 2 Titles, 1 finals MVP's, 4 League MVP's = 7 Points Total
Hakeem = 2 Titles, 2 finals MVP's, 1 League MVP's = 5 Points Total
Moses Malone = 1 Titles, 1 finals MVP's, 3 League MVP's = 5 Points Total
Kawhi = 2 Titles, 2 finals MVP's = 4 Points Total

These are facts! Also turned a franchise that never won into a dynasty having to win 4 series a year as well.

[3ba11]

Mikey has the highest MVP-frequency (5/15 or 33%) and championship frequency (6/15 or 40%) in the modern era (3-pointer basketball or ABA merger)

[And1AllDay]

Mikey has the highest MVP-frequency (5/15 or 33%) and championship frequency (6/15 or 40%) in the modern era (3-pointer basketball or ABA merger)

cant win em both when he quit sooner...which is why he has shortgevity and bran passed him up in points

you lose again :oldlol:

[kawhileonard2]

cant win em both when he quit sooner...which is why he has shortgevity and bran passed him up in points

you lose again :oldlol:

Despite that has more accolades and played 7 less seasons and did so for the franchise that never won and drafted him.

:oldlol:

MJ = 6 Titles, 6 finals MVP's, 5 League MVP's = 17 Points total
Russell = 11 Titles, 0 finals MVP's, 5 League MVP's = 16 Points Total
Kareem = 6 Titles, 2 finals MVP's, 6 League MVP's = 14 Points Total
Lebron = 4 Titles, 4 finals MVP's, 4 League MVP's = 12 Points Total

[Spurs m8]

Well this hasn't gone too well for OP :roll:

Basement dwelling loser

[3ba11]

cant win em both when he quit sooner...which is why he has shortgevity and bran passed him up in points

you lose again :oldlol:


CAREER PPG IN PLAYOFFS (min 30 games)

Jordan...... 33.45

Iverson..... 29.7
Durant...... 29.4
West......... 29.1
Lebron...... 28.7


Jordan stands alone..

Similar gap in regular season except Wilt is tied with MJ

[ELITEpower23]

CAREER PPG IN PLAYOFFS (min 30 games)

Jordan...... 33.45

Iverson..... 29.7
Durant...... 29.4
West......... 29.1
Lebron...... 28.7


Jordan stands alone..

Similar gap in regular season except Wilt is tied with MJ

His per game stats are higher due to him stat padding in 1st round exits for three years straight and then retiring in 98 before he declined too much.

It's over now *soft kiss* Goodnight my son.

[kawhileonard2]

His per game stats are higher due to him stat padding in 1st round exits for three years straight and then retiring in 98 before he declined too much.

It's over now *soft kiss* Goodnight my son.

Jordan's career PPG overall in the playoffs is the same as the finals basically and did so for the franchise that drafted him.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Mikey has the highest MVP-frequency (5/15 or 33%) and championship frequency (6/15 or 40%) in the modern era (3-pointer basketball or ABA merger)

I'm not counting the 85 campaign (18 games regular season) or the 95 (17 games) against him here. It's really slightly less than 13.5 seasons.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

His per game stats are higher due to him stat padding in 1st round exits for three years straight and then retiring in 98 before he declined too much.



This is an extraordinarily stupid take, considering all time world beaters like the Hawks, Pacers, Raptors (pre-2019) all took LeGED to 7 games many times in earlier rounds. Plus that small fact that the first round was the best of FIVE prior to 2003.

So PPG is the only metric that makes any sense.
Player 1: 35,35,35,35 points in a 4 game playoff sweep. PPG = 35. Total points scored / added to playoff total? 140
Player 2: 28,27,17,33,24,19, 26 = 21.14 PPG. Total points scored / added to playoff total? 148

Letard logic is player #2 is better for A) Scoring more total points and B)overcoming a 7 game series.
The real answer is get your shit taken care of.

PPG for basketball is the only stat that is measurable and comparable.

[Bawkish]

The heat retired jersey #23, mostly because it reminds them that jordan has played for two teams and retired three times.

So that means the Lakers are going to retire Bron's #6 because that's how many times he lost in the Finals??

[aj1987]

This is an extraordinarily stupid take, considering all time world beaters like the Hawks, Pacers, Raptors (pre-2019) all took LeGED to 7 games many times in earlier rounds. Plus that small fact that the first round was the best of FIVE prior to 2003.

So PPG is the only metric that makes any sense.
Player 1: 35,35,35,35 points in a 4 game playoff sweep. PPG = 35. Total points scored / added to playoff total? 140
Player 2: 28,27,17,33,24,19, 26 = 21.14 PPG. Total points scored / added to playoff total? 148

Letard logic is player #2 is better for A) Scoring more total points and B)overcoming a 7 game series.
The real answer is get your shit taken care of.

PPG for basketball is the only stat that is measurable and comparable.

That would make sense if LeBron averaged 21 PPG. Dude averages 29 PPG for his career in the PO's, you autistic dweeb.

Also, funny how you Ordan retards never bring up FGA. 1-9 takes 4.4 more FGA's and 1 FTA to score 4.7 more points in the PO's. That's a TS% of 48.5%. :roll: :roll:

Even worst in the RS. 3.2 more FGA's and 0.4 more FTA's to score 2.9 PPG more. That's 44.8% TS%. :roll: :roll:

[Axe]

So that means the Lakers are going to retire Bron's #6 because that's how many times he lost in the Finals??
Meltdown. If the news is true, #6 will be retired league-wide anyway in honor of bill russell. :confusedshrug: