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GrayGoat
02-07-2023, 12:52 AM
They are loaded

90sgoat
02-07-2023, 07:41 AM
They basically have the two best guard scorers in the league.

I don't see how anyone is shutting down their scoring.

And Kyrie is a master at exploiting physical defense, way too fast for it.

If they lose, it will be because they face a high scoring team with better defense, which should be Golden State, maybe Boston. Of course Kawhi might go off, but I see no other challengers.

red1
02-07-2023, 11:42 AM
hahahaha they dont know about this kyrie kid


he is the ultimate double edged weapon. might end up taking out his own team.


luka and kyrie are BOTH balldominant and we know these kids both have an ego.



we'll see what happens.

PANTHALASSA
02-07-2023, 12:12 PM
Kyrie and KD were hailed as a dynasty, they won 1 playoff series.

Remember how sincerely Loney and other Rockets fans thought Westbrook and Harden was gonna slaughter??

Going back even farther people thought Melo and Iverson would be unstoppable.

People just cant get it in their heads basketball isnt played on paper and that adding more stars does not have a stacking effect, but rather diminishing returns because there's only one ball.

We see it over and over but people just cant help themselves in believing whatever possibility is most sensational.

It's not IMPOSSIBLE this works but it is a long shot. They are not favorites for anything right now. The high probability is Kyrie gets hurt or spazzes out before the playoffs anyway. If that DOESNT happen they're still not objectively likely to even make a conference finals, just because of how much parity exists in the field right now.

But people see what they wanna see.

Wally450
02-07-2023, 12:49 PM
2nd Round at best.

90sgoat
02-07-2023, 01:31 PM
Kyrie and KD were hailed as a dynasty, they won 1 playoff series.

KD is not a winner like Luka.

Phoenix
02-07-2023, 05:55 PM
The Mavs ceiling this year is the 2nd round, and I can honestly see them getting bounced in the first.

ArbitraryWater
02-07-2023, 05:57 PM
The Mavs ceiling this year is the 2nd round, and I can honestly see them getting bounced in the first.

yea, absoutey no chance they beat the Grizzies in the 2nd round...


:oldlol:

Im Still Ballin
02-07-2023, 06:03 PM
Sure, the defense is a concern. But you know what? An improved half-court offense sets the defense up for success. Being able to score baskets limits transition and semi-transition opportunities. The offensive rating for a play that follows a made basket is much lower.

I could see them making it out the West. It'll be tough, but this is a powerful pairing. It'll be interesting to see what other moves are made. The buyout market is a consideration.

AlternativeAcc.
02-07-2023, 06:05 PM
Nuggets vs. Mavs would be amazing

Nuggets are just a better right now. Mavs are missing a piece. Nuggets are ready NOW.

Phoenix
02-07-2023, 06:07 PM
yea, absoutey no chance they beat the Grizzies in the 2nd round...


:oldlol:

I was thinking moreso a possible first round match with the Clippers, but that depends on if Kawhi is healthy ( a giant IF, to be sure) and if they stay in the 4th/5th spots. I wouldn't declare with any certainty that Dallas wins that( especially if on the road), and I'm very much in wait and see mode with Kyrie.

Manny98
02-07-2023, 06:10 PM
Best backcourt the league has ever seen

They're definitely the favorites now

Axe
02-07-2023, 06:54 PM
It's too early to jinx them yet.

Jasper
02-07-2023, 08:31 PM
Kyrie and KD were hailed as a dynasty, they won 1 playoff series.

Remember how sincerely Loney and other Rockets fans thought Westbrook and Harden was gonna slaughter??

Going back even farther people thought Melo and Iverson would be unstoppable.

People just cant get it in their heads basketball isnt played on paper and that adding more stars does not have a stacking effect, but rather diminishing returns because there's only one ball.

We see it over and over but people just cant help themselves in believing whatever possibility is most sensational.

It's not IMPOSSIBLE this works but it is a long shot. They are not favorites for anything right now. The high probability is Kyrie gets hurt or spazzes out before the playoffs anyway. If that DOESNT happen they're still not objectively likely to even make a conference finals, just because of how much parity exists in the field right now.

But people see what they wanna see.

lov it !!!

Jasper
02-07-2023, 08:31 PM
It's too early to jinx them yet.

lol

StrongLurk
02-07-2023, 08:32 PM
Luka absolutely needs finals or bust expectations if he is as good as the hype so far.

John8204
02-07-2023, 08:44 PM
Luka absolutely needs finals or bust expectations if he is as good as the hype so far.

It's less on Luka and more on Kyrie he's fighting for his max contract..if Luka wins a ring in Dallas that's huge for him. If he gets Kyrie'd like so many other's he's going to have to leave.

AlternativeAcc.
02-07-2023, 08:45 PM
Luka absolutely needs finals or bust expectations if he is as good as the hype so far.

Peak Jokic with a better cast nullifies that argument

SaltyMeatballs
02-07-2023, 08:52 PM
I'm gonna make a bold prediction. This Mavs team is gonna disappoint just like the 2015 Mavs did when they got Rondo

ArbitraryWater
02-07-2023, 09:05 PM
Peak Jokic with a better cast nullifies that argument

hes a little dumb

BarberSchool
02-08-2023, 12:33 AM
Everyone doubtful if Luka can play OFF-BALL …. Please watch Luka in FIBA / international play …. With Goran Dragic running point … Kyrie has all the skills Goran Dragic does x10, just maybe lacks some of dragic’s athletic ability ….

… But Goran Dragic can’t draw doubles in half court like Kyrie & Luka both can all day…. This offense is gonna be best in the league by far, and a nightmare matchup in late games, due to Kyrie’s 88%FT, and the inability for defenses to double either Luka or Kyrie, without killing your team with a majorly efficient 4on3 or 3on2 when Bertans is in the game...

Easily they’ll be the best offense in the last few years, offensively deadly all 48 minutes no breaks.

When Maxi Kleber and Christian Wood come back, Dallas/Denver become the co-favorites to emerge from the Western Conference…


LUKA DONCIC
KYRIE IRVING
CHRISTIAN WOOD
TIM HARDAWAY JR
MAXI KLEBER
REGGIE BULLOCK
DWIGHT POWELL
JOSH GREEN
DAVIS BERTANS
JAVALE MCGEE
MARKIEFF MORRIS
JADEN HARDY

hold this L
02-08-2023, 03:57 AM
KD is not a winner like Luka.
What has Luka won? :lol

90sgoat
02-08-2023, 04:37 AM
What has Luka won? :lol

Euroleague and Euro champion.

hold this L
02-08-2023, 09:10 AM
Euroleague and Euro champion.

Yeah and that's better than winning two championships? What is even the logic here? :facepalm

jayfan
02-08-2023, 12:45 PM
Not enough balance.


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Manny98
02-08-2023, 01:01 PM
Everyone doubtful if Luka can play OFF-BALL …. Please watch Luka in FIBA / international play …. With Goran Dragic running point … Kyrie has all the skills Goran Dragic does x10, just maybe lacks some of dragic’s athletic ability ….

… But Goran Dragic can’t draw doubles in half court like Kyrie & Luka both can all day…. This offense is gonna be best in the league by far, and a nightmare matchup in late games, due to Kyrie’s 88%FT, and the inability for defenses to double either Luka or Kyrie, without killing your team with a majorly efficient 4on3 or 3on2 when Bertans is in the game...

Easily they’ll be the best offense in the last few years, offensively deadly all 48 minutes no breaks.

When Maxi Kleber and Christian Wood come back, Dallas/Denver become the co-favorites to emerge from the Western Conference…


LUKA DONCIC
KYRIE IRVING
CHRISTIAN WOOD
TIM HARDAWAY JR
MAXI KLEBER
REGGIE BULLOCK
DWIGHT POWELL
JOSH GREEN
DAVIS BERTANS
JAVALE MCGEE
MARKIEFF MORRIS
JADEN HARDY

This and Kyrie has proved he can be elite without the ball when he was with LeBron.

The fit is perfect

BarberSchool
02-08-2023, 01:42 PM
This and Kyrie has proved he can be elite without the ball when he was with LeBron.

The fit is perfect
Both Luka & Kyrie are proven to be very clutch. Luka at 23 already has more buzzer beaters than many HOF’ers. Late game situations with both of them in the game makes double teaming either IMPOSSIBLE.

And if the Mavs are up, Kyrie’s FT% seals the deal. He’s 88-89% this year, and 90% over the last 3 seasons.

90sgoat
02-08-2023, 02:06 PM
Yeah and that's better than winning two championships? What is even the logic here? :facepalm

Winning the euro championships with a country of 3 million is 10x the achievement of a ring with Warriors.

BarberSchool
02-08-2023, 08:51 PM
Winning the euro championships with a country of 3 million is 10x the achievement of a ring with Warriors.

Word.

It’s like this:

Imagine if every state in the USA had a team which was ONLY composed of dudes born in that state, who grew up there their entire lives. Cali, Texas, Florida, NY, IL would literally win every year and nobody else could ever win.

Then one year, Wyoming wins against all the huge states which have way better teams…. All because of some slow young kid with a special magic to his game.

That’s what Slovenia winning the euro is like.

Lebron23
02-08-2023, 09:14 PM
Word.

It’s like this:

Imagine if every state in the USA had a team which was ONLY composed of dudes born in that state, who grew up there their entire lives. Cali, Texas, Florida, NY, IL would literally win every year and nobody else could ever win.

Then one year, Wyoming wins against all the huge states which have way better teams…. All because of some slow young kid with a special magic to his game.

That’s what Slovenia winning the euro is like.

Cannot wait to see Bronny posterize Luka. You racists son of a b1tch.

BarberSchool
02-09-2023, 12:50 AM
Cannot wait to see Bronny posterize Luka. You racists son of a b1tch.I’m four different races, jerkoff. And have every single group besides east Asian and Hindu in my family. Find another angle to try to smear people you disagree with, than the played out, boy who cried wolf, RACE CARD. You unoriginal, crutch-using, room temperature IQ having MF.

People other than racist white people from Texas, can AND DO cheer for a team led by a LIKABLE, slow, unathletic, 23 year old Slavic kid. Including mutiracial dudes from gang affiliated neighborhoods on the south side of chicago.

Get fu@ked, SON.

90sgoat
02-09-2023, 01:52 AM
Word.

It’s like this:

Imagine if every state in the USA had a team which was ONLY composed of dudes born in that state, who grew up there their entire lives. Cali, Texas, Florida, NY, IL would literally win every year and nobody else could ever win.

Then one year, Wyoming wins against all the huge states which have way better teams…. All because of some slow young kid with a special magic to his game.

That’s what Slovenia winning the euro is like.

I don't get why the US doesn't have state championships like that. They should do that and then use those games to qualify for the FIBA teams.

BarberSchool
02-09-2023, 03:02 AM
I don't get why the US doesn't have state championships like that. They should do that and then use those games to qualify for the FIBA teams.
Word.

Sh!t would be dope. I’m all for Nationalism, where every nation retains their own unique character and culture, and says fu@k global one world systems of finance, commerce and govt. and on an even more specific scale … I’m all for statism where each homegrown squad plays with their own real homegrown talent and with their own regional style.

On a micro and macro level… motherfu@k centralization, standardization, and commercialization. and motherfu@k stifling unique regional cultural expression, we should be celebrating this! WORLDWIDE !