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Kblaze8855
02-07-2023, 02:41 PM
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GrayGoat
02-07-2023, 02:54 PM
Not enough for Westbrook imo. According to posters here he’s currently a superstar and HOF lock! Lakers need more back

Xiao Yao You
02-07-2023, 02:58 PM
Not enough for Westbrook imo. According to posters here he’s currently a superstar and HOF lock! Lakers need more back

Can have Clarkson too

PANTHALASSA
02-07-2023, 03:04 PM
Conley isnt much these days but they need to get rid of Westbrook if they want any realistic chance of success in the playoffs (which they may not even make due to LeTeammates).

I dont care if Westbrook has been passable lately. He will screw something up for them in the playoffs. As sure as the sun rises in the east.

You do not go into the playoffs with Russell Westbrook if your goal is to be a legitimate contender. He is bound to screw something up, it is simply a matter of time. And it will likely happen at the worst POSSIBLE time.

Beware the ides of March, Lakers.

The oracle hath spoken……..

Xiao Yao You
02-07-2023, 03:18 PM
Conley isnt much these days but they need to get rid of Westbrook if they want any realistic chance of success in the playoffs (which they may not even make due to LeTeammates).

I dont care if Westbrook has been passable lately. He will screw something up for them in the playoffs. As sure as the sun rises in the east.

You do not go into the playoffs with Russell Westbrook if your goal is to be a legitimate contender. He is bound to screw something up, it is simply a matter of time. And it will likely happen at the worst POSSIBLE time.

Beware the ides of March, Lakers.

The oracle hath spoken……..

the contending 25-29 Lakers

ImKobe
02-07-2023, 04:02 PM
Conley is washed as well but at least he's still a good passer and a good enough 3PT shooter. If Lakers only need to give up 1 pick to get rid of Russ then they'll have to do it.

Xiao Yao You
02-07-2023, 04:07 PM
Conley is washed as well but at least he's still a good passer and a good enough 3PT shooter. If Lakers only need to give up 1 pick to get rid of Russ then they'll have to do it.

He's better than all but a couple of players on the Lakers and he will be suited up more than both of them

Kblaze8855
02-07-2023, 04:14 PM
Conley is washed as well but at least he's still a good passer and a good enough 3PT shooter. If Lakers only need to give up 1 pick to get rid of Russ then they'll have to do it.


They don’t have to do anything to get rid of him but wait 2 and a half months. He’s the largest expiring contract in history I believe. Conley would be 24 million they can’t throw at guys like Middleton this summer. They have max cap space though maybe they aren’t too enamored with anyone available.

ImKobe
02-07-2023, 04:28 PM
They don’t have to do anything to get rid of him but wait 2 and a half months. He’s the largest expiring contract in history I believe. Conley would be 24 million they can’t throw at guys like Middleton this summer. They have max cap space though maybe they aren’t too enamored with anyone available.

They kinda have to because of how wide open the West is right now. If they make the right trade and move up 4-5 games in the standings they could be looking at HCA in the 1st round of the POs with Denver being the only real contender in their way to the Finals and they match up really well against them.

ArbitraryWater
02-07-2023, 04:36 PM
take it with Carkson

Xiao Yao You
02-07-2023, 04:37 PM
take it with Carkson

please! Gay too!

NBAGOAT
02-07-2023, 05:42 PM
They don’t have to do anything to get rid of him but wait 2 and a half months. He’s the largest expiring contract in history I believe. Conley would be 24 million they can’t throw at guys like Middleton this summer. They have max cap space though maybe they aren’t too enamored with anyone available.

they dont quite have a max spot and hachimura takes up a bit of cap space too. I think with the kyrie stuff it was reported they have 30mil in space even if they renounce hachimura

Axe
02-07-2023, 06:56 PM
Would have been convincing if he were younger.

Full Court
02-07-2023, 07:49 PM
Conley's an underrated player. Bad move for the Jazz if they do this.

Xiao Yao You
02-07-2023, 08:12 PM
Conley's an underrated player. Bad move for the Jazz if they do this.

2 unprotected picks from the Laker shit show? Sign me up especially if Clarkson and Gay can be part of the deal

StrongLurk
02-07-2023, 08:37 PM
Ehh, it won't really move the needle for the Lakers.

The Lakers biggest issue is the whole roster can't shoot...they need a huge overhaul but can't do it with their cap room.

Let's be real, they need to break the team up. Lebron is only getting older, AD can't stay healthy for a full year and Westbrook is washed with one of the worst contracts in the league.

The Lakers should only make a move if it's a homerun. They should've gone after Kyrie.

imdaman99
02-07-2023, 09:22 PM
And the Jazz buy out Westbrook. Guess he will retire to China after that. No way am I watching ball early in the morning while at work so I will be done with the stress he provides :pimp:

BarberSchool
02-08-2023, 12:35 AM
I can’t think of a worse fan base for Westbrick than the MF Utah Jazz.

DO IT !!!!

bladefd
02-08-2023, 03:54 AM
They don’t have to do anything to get rid of him but wait 2 and a half months. He’s the largest expiring contract in history I believe. Conley would be 24 million they can’t throw at guys like Middleton this summer. They have max cap space though maybe they aren’t too enamored with anyone available.

I read that Conley's contract is only partially guaranteed for next season. I don't know about what the cap hit is and whether Lakers can cut him. I don't know the logistics.

ZenMaster
02-08-2023, 09:03 AM
They don’t have to do anything to get rid of him but wait 2 and a half months. He’s the largest expiring contract in history I believe. Conley would be 24 million they can’t throw at guys like Middleton this summer. They have max cap space though maybe they aren’t too enamored with anyone available.

Such a different description than of LA cap space than what I've heard anywhere else.

If they want to keep Rui and Reaves, there's only going to be 13 million in cap space. There's a path to get to 30 in overall cap space, but it means renouncing Rui who they just used picks to trade for.

Xiao Yao You
02-08-2023, 04:57 PM
Shams Charania: The Lakers, Jazz and Timberwolves are in discussions on a three-team deal that would send D’Angelo Russell to the Lakers, Russell Westbrook and draft compensation such as a first-round pick to Utah and Mike Conley Jr. to Minnesota, (https://*********.com/social/) sources tell me and @Tjonesonthenba.

– via Twitter ShamsCharania (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania)



don't see why the Jazz would help the Wolves. They have their potential lottery pick. Conley is just what Minnesota needs. Lakers would still suck

AlternativeAcc.
02-08-2023, 05:04 PM
don't see why the Jazz would help the Wolves. They have their potential lottery pick. Conley is just what Minnesota needs. Lakers would still suck

Yeah, Jazz already destroyed the Wolves franchise forever.

Offloading Gobert for a treasure trove of picks was the biggest heist in history.

Savages.

NBAGOAT
02-08-2023, 05:09 PM
don't see why the Jazz would help the Wolves. They have their potential lottery pick. Conley is just what Minnesota needs. Lakers would still suck

Jazz get a 1st rd pick maybe more in assets when none of those 3 guys are worth a 1st

RRR3
02-08-2023, 05:11 PM
Jazz get a 1st rd pick maybe more in assets when none of those 3 guys are worth a 1st
Hilarious Pelinka will do this now when they're 25-30 but not the Hield and Turner trade before the season. The man is truly an idiot. Russell and Beasley are just more guards for Hambone to spam in his tiny lineups that get obliterated.

Xiao Yao You
02-08-2023, 05:13 PM
can't quit me

AlternativeAcc.
02-08-2023, 05:16 PM
can't quit me

Hey man! What's up. Missed the Wolves game yesterday, how did it go? Gobert vs. Jokic. How was it?

Xiao Yao You
02-08-2023, 05:18 PM
Hey man! What's up. Missed the Wolves game yesterday, how did it go? Gobert vs. Jokic. How was it?

didn't see it

Xiao Yao You
02-08-2023, 05:43 PM
Chris Haynes: In three-team deal being discussed between Lakers, Wolves and Jazz, a buyout for Russell Westbrook in Utah would be the likely path, (http://twitter.com/espn/status/1623425872068853760) league sources tell @NBAonTNT, @BleacherReport.
– via Twitter (http://twitter.com/espn/status/1623425872068853760)





Adrian Wojnarowski: Three-way talks with Lakers, Jazz and Timberwolves would potentially land D’Angelo Russell and Malik Beasley with LA, Mike Conley, Jr., and picks with Timberwolves and Russell Westbrook and picks with Jazz, per sources. Jazz remain engaged elsewhere on Conley Jr., (https://*********.com/social/) too.
– via Twitter wojespn (https://twitter.com/wojespn)

Xiao Yao You
02-08-2023, 05:44 PM
Jake Fischer: LAL, UTA, MIN have indeed been discussing a three-team trade that would send D’Angelo Russell to Los Angeles, Mike Conley Jr. to Minnesota and Russell Westbrook to Utah. Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt have also been included in the versions of the framework, (https://*********.com/social/) sources said.
– via Twitter JakeLFischer (https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer)







Shams Charania: Ongoing discussions have included Utah’s Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt as part of the potential three-team deal to the Lakers, sources said. Sides are working through pick protections and additional draft compensation too, (https://*********.com/social/) per sources.
– via Twitter ShamsCharania (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania)

Kblaze8855
02-08-2023, 05:48 PM
Such a different description than of LA cap space than what I've heard anywhere else.

If they want to keep Rui and Reaves, there's only going to be 13 million in cap space. There's a path to get to 30 in overall cap space, but it means renouncing Rui who they just used picks to trade for.


What I’m reading right now shows 92 million locked in for next year against a 134 million cap. It would be less depending on who they choose to bring back on top of the 3 players they have to pay and Jones on a player option. Only locked in players I see are Lebron, KD, Christie, and one player on a two way G league deal.

Maybe something isn’t updated somewhere. My numbers could be old but Rui is in there with a showing his minimum qualifying offer.

Wardell Curry
02-08-2023, 05:50 PM
Russell for Westbrook might be addition by subtraction, but it's certainly not moving the needle.

The entire roster needs to be scrapped besides James and Davis, but at least they're trading an expiring for an expiring. It would be silly if they end up giving up draft picks for this.

Unless they obsess over signing a third star, the Lakers should be able to put together a nice roster this summer as they will have a decent amount of cap space(over $50 million) barring a silly trade for the sake of trade that ends up costing picks and or cap space here.

NBAGOAT
02-08-2023, 07:05 PM
Hilarious Pelinka will do this now when they're 25-30 but not the Hield and Turner trade before the season. The man is truly an idiot. Russell and Beasley are just more guards for Hambone to spam in his tiny lineups that get obliterated.

Vanderbilt makes this more interesting tbf. You get 3 rotation guys now and dlo fits kind of well with lebron. He can just take shots and not worry about being a primary playmaker but can still give bron some rest. It is stupid lakers could’ve done westbrook for conley/Bojan during offseason if they didn’t want to give up both 1sts. Ainge would’ve done it he didn’t get a 1st for Bojan and conley was negative value

Xiao Yao You
02-08-2023, 07:16 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski: ESPN Sources: Three-team trade is largely hinging on how Minnesota values D’Angelo Russell in potential deal and their return of draft assets. Lakers and Jazz have significant deal structure in place, (https://*********.com/social/) but Minnesota has been engaged elsewhere on Russell too.
– via Twitter wojespn (https://twitter.com/wojespn)

bison
02-08-2023, 07:23 PM
Ham is probably stroking his meat right now thinking about a potential Beasley/D’Lo/pat bev lineup.

Xiao Yao You
02-08-2023, 07:59 PM
The Rally: “For the Lakers this would be turning the page on Russell Westbrook … there’s definitely a deal here that has a level of momentum.” (http://twitter.com/TheRally/status/1623459369785389061) NBA Insider @Shams Charania reports on the potential three-team trade between the Lakers, Jazz and Timberwolves.

bladefd
02-08-2023, 08:41 PM
What I’m reading right now shows 92 million locked in for next year against a 134 million cap. It would be less depending on who they choose to bring back on top of the 3 players they have to pay and Jones on a player option. Only locked in players I see are Lebron, KD, Christie, and one player on a two way G league deal.

Maybe something isn’t updated somewhere. My numbers could be old but Rui is in there with a showing his minimum qualifying offer.

Rui's caphold is 18mill afaik so that's probably what Zen is talking about.

Lakers will have more than 13mill (like ~23mill) but not enough for a max deal or even close. Their best move is to trade Westbrick right now for someone young who you can keep long-term. It's the only way to stay above the cap through a trade for Westbrick than by letting his contract expire.

Xiao Yao You
02-08-2023, 08:55 PM
Erik Slater: Woj on Lakers – Jazz – Wolves trade talks: “There’s certainly haggling going on about what the Timberwolves are getting in terms of draft capital in this deal.” (https://*********.com/social/) Sounds like the Lakers are trying to hold onto the second 1st-rounder.
– via Twitter erikslater_ (https://twitter.com/erikslater_)