TRADE: Lakers trade Russell Westbrook to Utah for D-Lo, Beasley, and Vanderbilt

[Im Still Ballin]

Woo!



[Charania] Lakers, Jazz and Timberwolves are finalizing trade sending D’Angelo Russell, Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt to Los Angeles, Russell Westbrook and first-round pick to Utah and Mike Conley Jr. and second-round pick compensation to Minnesota, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1623490045465468933

[RRR3]

Pelinkduh could have had Hield and Turner before the year and been in the top 3 in the standings. Too little too late as usual from him.

[Im Still Ballin]

Pelinkduh could have had Hield and Turner before the year and been in the top 3 in the standings. Too little too late as usual from him.

Agreed. However, this is an awesome trade for only one FRP.

[NBAGOAT]

Yea this is a really good deal for lakers. Unlike most people I don’t hate it for Utah. They weren’t getting a first for beasley and vando wasn’t getting a great 1st. Conley westbrook is arguably good swap for Utah. Minnesota is team losing value but they did get 3 2nds for an expiring Russell and conley might fit better

[Hey Yo]

WITNESs

[Im Still Ballin]

Yea this is a really good deal for lakers. Unlike most people I don’t hate it for Utah. They weren’t getting a first for beasley and vando wasn’t getting a great 1st. Conley westbrook is arguably good for Utah. Minnesota is team losing value but they did get 3 2nds for an expiring Russell and conley might fit better

The big question now becomes this: does LA use its other 1st round pick? I feel like this season is a bust. Might be better off saving it. Beasley's 15m is a team option next year and D-Lo is a free agent after this season finishes. Vando is on a cheap deal so that's nice.

[ImKobe]

Westbrick for D'lo alone is a huge W for the Lakers.

[warriorfan]

great trade lakers should be able to win with this trade

[Keno]

Finally; just need bum ass ham fired too and lakers got a better chance

[Im Still Ballin]

Got to give Rob Pelinka props for this one. But it might be too little too late. Still doesn't make up for passing on Hield and Turner if that legitimately was in play before the beginning of the season.

[RRR3]

Got to give Rob Pelinka props for this one. But it might be too little too late. Still doesn't make up for passing on Hield and Turner if that legitimately was in play before the beginning of the season.
This just makes it even stupider that he passed on it then.

[Xiao Yao You]

better at least be an unprotected 1st.

[BallsOut]

The Lakers traded Russell for Russell :lol

[NBAGOAT]

The big question now becomes this: does LA use its other 1st round pick? I feel like this season is a bust. Might be better off saving it. Beasley's 15m is a team option next year and D-Lo is a free agent after this season finishes. Vando is on a cheap deal so that's nice.

Lakers fans want Gary Trent and would have to attach bad salaries like bev Lonnie walker etc but I think they could use a big also. Trent or big could be expiring tbf still leaves flexibility for next offseason and you get off bad salary but you have to sign someone in free agency no one to trade for. Rotation looks something like

Dlo/Schroeder
trent jr/beasley
Lebron/reaves
Vanderbilt/Hachimura
Ad/Bryant

Or you get a starting big and make Reaves or beasley the starting 2. It’s pretty damn solid should make some noise in playoffs if AD plays and you have a lot of cap room during offseason

[ImKobe]

Got to give Rob Pelinka props for this one. But it might be too little too late. Still doesn't make up for passing on Hield and Turner if that legitimately was in play before the beginning of the season.

They would've had to give up both 1sts for two role players.. Instead they signed T Bryant (who's been like at least 80% as good as Turner, and Turner wouldn't have had the same touches in LA), flipped Nunn & 2nds for Rui and only needed 1 pick to flip Russ for 3 legitimate NBA players. FO can't control AD's injury luck and all the close games they've blown this season.

[PANTHALASSA]

I guess it’s DAngelo Russell’s turn to be considered a “superstar” by the average asshole LeHater.

[ImKobe]

I guess it’s DAngelo Russell’s turn to be considered a “superstar” by the average asshole LeHater.

He led the Nets to the POs and he's been putting up 20 ppg on 48/45/89 splits for the last 20 games.

[BallsOut]

They got DAngelo Snitchell instead of Donovan Mitchell

[Xiao Yao You]

Adrian Wojnarowski: The Lakers’ 2027 first-round pick to the Jazz is protected 1-to-4, (https://*********.com/social/) source tells ESPN.

– via Twitter wojespn (https://twitter.com/wojespn)




come on Danny!

[SATAN]

Westbrick for D'lo alone is a huge W for the Lakers.

You must be devastated.

[Xiao Yao You]

Adrian Wojnarowski: Also in deal: Juan Toscano-Anderson and Damian Jones to Jazz, Nickeil Alexander-Walker to the Timberwolves, sources said (https://*********.com/social/).

– via Twitter wojespn (https://twitter.com/wojespn)



Nickeil could help the Wolves as well. Conley has better chemistry with Gobert than anyone he has played with

[AlternativeAcc.]

Westbrick in UTAH :lol


Amazing trade for the Lakers.

[Xiao Yao You]

I assume Damian Jones is non guaranteed next year?

[imdaman99]

Finally, Lakers are title contenders again

[Xiao Yao You]

Westbrick in UTAH :lol


Amazing trade for the Lakers.

buyout. all the guys they just got and more could be gone in days

[Xiao Yao You]

Finally, Lakers are title contenders again

:roll:

[Spurs m8]

Ladies and gentleman...introducing D-Lo, your new scapegoat

[Spurs m8]

Poor bison...ANOTHER 1st rounder out the door and there'll be nothing in return

[Full Court]

I guess Utah's just going to burn it all down. This trade really makes no sense for them other than that.

[Full Court]

Poor bison...ANOTHER 1st rounder out the door and there'll be nothing in return

D. Russell's a pretty good pickup for the Lakers. Not sure he'll be enough to make up for LeNetNegative, but still a good move.

[Xiao Yao You]

I guess Utah's just going to burn it all down. This trade really makes no sense for them other than that.

they got another likely future lottery pick, More ping pong balls this year. Could cost them Minnesota lottery pick too. Conley is just what they needed

[Xiao Yao You]

Adrian Wojnarowski: The Jazz have assembled a massive package of assets — including 15 unprotected or lightly protected first-round picks through 2029 and a young core of Lauri Markkanen, Walker Kesslier, Collin Sexton and Ochai Agbaji and $60M-plus in potential cap space (https://*********.com/social/).
– via Twitter wojespn (https://twitter.com/wojespn)

[Xiao Yao You]

Minnesota wins the trade today. Utah will win in it in the future. Lakers big losers again

[coin24]

Dslow sucks.. lakers keep racking up Ls..

Should have traded letiny

[8Ball]

Adrian Wojnarowski: The Jazz have assembled a massive package of assets — including 15 unprotected or lightly protected first-round picks through 2029 and a young core of Lauri Markkanen, Walker Kesslier, Collin Sexton and Ochai Agbaji and $60M-plus in potential cap space (https://*********.com/social/).
– via Twitter wojespn (https://twitter.com/wojespn)

They gonna hoard picks like Danny Ainge but the opposing teams won't suck enough like Brooklyn Nets for them to get Jaylen Brown or Tatum type assets.

[kawhileonard2]

So Lebron couldn't make the playoffs with prime Westbrook. :oldlol:

[Xiao Yao You]

Yossi Gozlan: The Utah Jazz are now projected to generate around $35M in cap space this summer if Jordan Clarkson, Talen Horton-Tucker, and Rudy Gay all exercise their player options (https://*********.com/social/). They still project to have significant cap space if they extend Clarkson for a higher salary for 2023-24. The Jazz are also now $3.4M below the tax for this season, have an open roster spot, and generate two trade exceptions worth $4.4M and $5M. They have two trade exceptions worth $9.8M and $1.5M set to expire tomorrow.
– via Twitter YossiGozlan (https://twitter.com/YossiGozlan)

[Jasper]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/35618590/lakers-finalizing-3-team-trade-dangelo-russell

Utah has probably the most 1st round picks for the next decade :oldlol: :banana: :oldlol:

[Xiao Yao You]

Here's how their first-round picks are looking, via RealGM (https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed):


2023 — own

2023 — from Rockets (https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/houston/), Nets or Sixers (https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/philadelphia/) (least favorable)

2023 — from Timberwolves (unprotected)

2024 — owed to Thunder (protected 1-10)

2025 — own

2025 — from Timberwolves (unprotected)

2025 — from Cavaliers (https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/cleveland/) (unprotected)

2026 — own (could swap with Timberwolves or Cavaliers)

2027 — own

2027 — from Timberwolves (unprotected)

2027 — from Cavaliers (unprotected)

2027 — from Lakers (lightly protected)

2028 — own (could swap with Cavaliers)

2029 — own

2029 — from Cavaliers (unprotected)

2029 — from Timberwolves (protected 1-5)

[Xiao Yao You]

Udoka!

[Jasper]

think of it this way - Westbrook is leaving a louse losing team for a playoff team rebuilding !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kblaze8855]

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[Bankaii]

They would've had to give up both 1sts for two role players.. Instead they signed T Bryant (who's been like at least 80% as good as Turner, and Turner wouldn't have had the same touches in LA), flipped Nunn & 2nds for Rui and only needed 1 pick to flip Russ for 3 legitimate NBA players. FO can't control AD's injury luck and all the close games they've blown this season.
Lmao at Bryant being 80% of Turner. Defense matter. Turner is leading the league in blocks, while Bryant is essentially a chair in the paint.

The lakers lack defense and shooting. Buddy is a lights out shooter with solid D, and Turner is an elite rim protector that can spread the floor. The FO dropped the ball. The lakers are a top 3 seed if they went into the season with Buddy/Myles.

[Wardell Curry]

A trade for the sake of a trade. Even if the Lakers get better, they're not going from middle/bottom of the pack in the West to the top of the West. And they took on an unnecessary year of Vanderbilt AND gave up a draft pick.

lol.

[nineiron]

now we get to see how Westbrook plays without being shackled by bran ball.

we also get to see the bronies blame D'angelo when they miss the playoffs.

[AlternativeAcc.]

A trade for the sake of a trade. Even if the Lakers get better, they're not going from middle/bottom of the pack in the West to the top of the West. And they took on an unnecessary year of Vanderbilt AND gave up a draft pick.

lol.

Making the playoffs is the only goal and they're only a few games back. They can beat anyone if healthy.

LeBron can do ANYTHING.

[theman93]

So what will be the excuse when Lebron loses now? Scapegoatbrook is gone and replaced by a 39% 3 point shooter and an efficient shooter overall.

Weren't we led to believe that just getting rid of Westbrook alone is addition by subtraction?

[RRR3]

Lmao at Bryant being 80% of Turner. Defense matter. Turner is leading the league in blocks, while Bryant is essentially a chair in the paint.

The lakers lack defense and shooting. Buddy is a lights out shooter with solid D, and Turner is an elite rim protector that can spread the floor. The FO dropped the ball. The lakers are a top 3 seed if they went into the season with Buddy/Myles.
ImKobe is Pelinka.

[Wally450]

So what will be the excuse when Lebron loses now? Scapegoatbrook is gone and replaced by a 39% 3 point shooter and an efficient shooter overall.

Weren't we led to believe that just getting rid of Westbrook alone is addition by subtraction?

Watch how much better the Lakers play without Westbrook.

[Xiao Yao You]

Anil Gogna: MIN could have entered the offseason with $15M of cap space (max of $23M) but by acquiring Conley who has $14.3M GTD of his $24.4M next year, they’re committed to operating over the cap this summer (https://*********.com/social/). UTA will likely buyout Russ and continue the firesale with Olynyk & Clarkson.

– via Twitter AnilGognaNBA (https://twitter.com/AnilGognaNBA)



Who's getting the bum?

[Xiao Yao You]

Damian Jones has player option

[El Kabong]

Feels like a consolidation/gamble trade for the Jazz. Like "yea, I could get picks for the individual guys, but they'll be 20+, so with this deal we can shed salary and if it goes in our favour get a pick in the 5-12 range".

So when you've got 13 or whatever picks in the next 4 years, if you're adding more you want them to be as high as possible, not just adding more for the sake of adding more. Kessler was pushing Vando out and Conley, as good as be is I don't think had uber high currency given being his age and he only appealed to certain teams (contenders or a side desperate to salvage a season they went all in on).

It makes a Clarkson move all the more interesting cause I get the feeling there's a bit of a disconnect between management and ownership there. Management seem to have a clear "Find our building blocks, move out the guys we don't want long-term for currency" mindset, which given Clarkson is a FA would make him next on the block to move, but apparently Ryan Smith loves Clarkson and wants to keep him, and giving out 4 years and $80+ for him doesn't make much sense for this team ATM.

Like it for the Lakers, ain't got LeBron or AD forever, go in now for 1 more title. Only turns out to be a mistake if they do something silly like give Russell a huge deal in the off-season.

[BarberSchool]

I can’t think of a worse, less supportive, culturally incompatible fan base for Westbrick to suffer playing in front of, than THE UTAH JAZZ FANBASE. Especially after what he has said about them in the past, for what a small percentage of the real racists out there said to him.

Serves Westbrick right. Gonna enjoy watching him suffer. He deserves it.

[3ba11]

No one has more good players than the Lakers because they have 2 top 10 players and a bunch of really good players after that

Unfortunately, Lebron only won 53 games with prime Kyrie/Love in 2017 instead of 65-70, so the Finals wasn't a matchup of 2 titans and instead was considered a massive mismatch

[Axe]

Watch how much better the Lakers play without Westbrook.
Haven't you heard? He's an all-star this year, just like austin reaves is. :lol

[3ba11]

Haven't you heard? He's an all-star this year, just like austin reaves is. :lol


It's a league-wide conspiracy to get Lebron all the good players - no one has ever needed more help than him and he still fields whimpering underdogs because his skillset yields bad chemistry, fits and limits strategic capacity (low assist teams)

[SaltyMeatballs]

The Lakers traded Russell for Russell :lol

Haha you're so funny. How'd you come up with that one?

[SaltyMeatballs]

Lakers won this trade by a landslide. 3 quality players for Russ and a 12 year old

[AirBonner]

Dlo is better than westbrook

[Lee]

I doubt we are done yet, we can trade Beverley-Walker for another piece.
We got three point guards ( D'lo, Bev, Schroeder) and 3 shooting guards ( Walkers, Reaves, Beasley).
Beverley-Walker can go.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Free at last.

Free at last.

Thank Gold Almighty the Lakers are free at last.

[sbw19]

Better late than never. LeBron/AD + shooters and hustle RPs. Should've been from the get-go.

[ZenMaster]

Got to give Rob Pelinka props for this one. But it might be too little too late. Still doesn't make up for passing on Hield and Turner if that legitimately was in play before the beginning of the season.

The way I remember reading it was that Pelinka negotiated with Indiana, where the best deal he could get them to agree to was giving up both 27 and 29 FRP. Lakers FO as a whole then voted on it, deciding not to do it.

[Xiao Yao You]

Better late than never. LeBron/AD + shooters and hustle RPs. Should've been from the get-go.

the problem as always is Davis and Lebron not being on the floor

[Manny98]

Pelinka made a good trade for once :applause:

I assume Russ gets bought out and signs with the Clippers

[Xiao Yao You]

In the deal, Minnesota gets Conley and Nickeil Alexander-Walker and three future second-round picks from the Jazz. The Lakers get D’Angelo Russell from the Timberwolves as well as Beasley and Vanderbilt.



now it's 3 2nds?

[Xiao Yao You]

Ryan Miller: Rudy Gobert reacts to being reunited with Mike Conley: “I love Mike. I love the way he plays the game.” (https://*********.com/social/)

Rudy Gobert reacts to being reunited with Mike Conley:
“I love Mike. I love the way he plays the game.” pic.twitter.com/4YGMMhe07d (https://t.co/4YGMMhe07d)
— Ryan Miller (@millerjryan) February 9, 2023 (https://twitter.com/millerjryan/status/1623548176606298114?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)


– via Twitter millerjryan (https://twitter.com/millerjryan)

[BigShotBob]

This move does nothing for the Lakers except give them a new scapegoat

[nineiron]

This move does nothing for the Lakers except give them a new scapegoat

that's all Lebron wanted. it's obvious he isn't going to win another ring since no real superstar is willing to carry him anymore (and let him take all the credit)

[red1]

Free at last.

Free at last.

Thank Gold Almighty the Lakers are free at last.

:roll::roll::roll:

[ArbitraryWater]

1 year too ate or haf a year too ate, ets see if they can make it work in time to make the pay-in.

[nineiron]

1 year too ate or haf a year too ate, ets see if they can make it work in time to make the pay-in.

oh now it's too late? we're just barely at the half way point. why is it too late?

[red1]

they needed the depth because this team is going to have to burn itself out just to make the playoffs at this point


another L coming tonight against the bucks

[ArbitraryWater]

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eww thats mad weird


i fee for pip jr

[bullettooth]

Why do teams actively do everything they can to help the Lakers? Everyone always gets fleeced when they make a trade with LA. WTF?

[Johnny32]

Why do teams actively do everything they can to help the Lakers? Everyone always gets fleeced when they make a trade with LA. WTF?

oblivious or delusional?

[Johnny32]

This move does nothing for the Lakers except give them a new scapegoat

no new scapegoat needed. ad is supposed to be at his peak. he can't stay healthy and he's still worse than his 38 yr old sidekick.

[ArbitraryWater]

Why do teams actively do everything they can to help the Lakers? Everyone always gets fleeced when they make a trade with LA. WTF?

what i thought westbrook is amazing?

[dankok8]

Lakers have better shooting now but they could struggle more with Lebron off the floor. Westbrook at times was a very good passer and got the best out of guys when Lebron sat. I think Lebron's workload just got higher.

[100grandman]

they needed the depth because this team is going to have to burn itself out just to make the playoffs at this point


another L coming tonight against the bucks


Well they beat the bucks this year already didn’t they? Let’s see what happens.

[ArbitraryWater]

Lakers have better shooting now but they could struggle more with Lebron off the floor. Westbrook at times was a very good passer and got the best out of guys when Lebron sat. I think Lebron's workload just got higher.

pease, the team wi be better and thus ebron wi have to do ess. its simple.

[GimmeThat]

still need to fix the opponent points in the paint, as they are currently ranked 25th

[BallsOut]

Mini Kuzma :bowdown:

[jlip]

With Westbrook gone now, I would like to see LeBron move back full time to pg and average 24-26ppg 10apg for the rest of the season as opposed to averaging 30+ppg. I think the team works better when he's running the point. Also, I think that will free up AD to be more of a scoring focus and be be more engaged, if he's actually healthy. Now if they can actually defend anybody, maybe they can squeak into the play in.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Starting to look like one of the greatest trades in history.

[Full Court]

How much money changed hands under the table for Utah to bail out the Lakers?

[Xiao Yao You]

How much money changed hands under the table for Utah to bail out the Lakers?

40 million whatever Westbrook is making. Ainge could have 60 million in cap space along with all the picks He will be in the middle of everything this summer which is what he wants