Why Kareem's scoring was more impressive

[Walk on Water]

Lebron made over 2000 3s. 3s didn't exist in Kareem's first 10 seasons or so. Kareem only took 18 3s and made one. So Kareem had to make a lot more shots than Lebron. 3 pointers weren't even emphasized in the 80s.

Also, Jordan had 10 scoring titles to Lebron's 1. Even KD has 4 scoring titles. Doncic averages more points per game than Lebron.

[Jasper]

kareem is subject to being under rated in todays NBA... because of the era.

I will never over look him , for the simple fact I saw him play against greats like Wilt , and Parrish as well as Walton and Akeem and Moses.

[90sgoat]

Lebron's stats are more similar to Karl Malone, impressive and stable, but not really ground breaking in any way.

[GimmeThat]

they both proved defense is important because it brings longevity.

[mr4speed]

Lebron made over 2000 3s. 3s didn't exist in Kareem's first 10 seasons or so. Kareem only took 18 3s and made one. So Kareem had to make a lot more shots than Lebron. 3 pointers weren't even emphasized in the 80s.

Also, Jordan had 10 scoring titles to Lebron's 1. Even KD has 4 scoring titles. Doncic averages more points per game than Lebron.

Kareem could not play in the NBA when he was 18. As a rookie Kareem averaged 28.8 points per game. If Lew Alcindor had come out of high school and played in the NBA for 4 years instead of at UCLA = lets say he averages a conservative 20 points per game and plays 80 of the 82 games = 1600 points per year and for 4 years that would be 6400 points. No disrespect toward Lebron but Kareem is so overlooked here. It is apples and oranges = completely different eras.

[Gudo]

Kareem could not play in the NBA when he was 18. As a rookie Kareem averaged 28.8 points per game. If Lew Alcindor had come out of high school and played in the NBA for 4 years instead of at UCLA = lets say he averages a conservative 20 points per game and plays 80 of the 82 games = 1600 points per year and for 4 years that would be 6400 points. No disrespect toward Lebron but Kareem is so overlooked here. It is apples and oranges = completely different eras.

And you are being too conservative to assume only 20ppg at that. I think he would have surely done more than that. Total numbers are great but it seems people have been too much emphasis on it since Lebron has broken the record.

[Johnny32]

d e s p e r a t i o n

[John8204]

Kareem put up his best numbers when the talent was split between the NBA and ABA. Lebron's scoring is more impressive because he's a pass first scorer who has been consistent throughout a long period of time.

Frankly I'm more impressed with the first man to 10K (Mikan), 20K (Pettit) and 30K (Wilt) than Lebron, KAJ, and Jordan

[Pointguard]

Kareem had one of the most impressive scores ever.https://i.pinimg.com/originals/be/aa/84/beaa8408fc8c39bcf9b7d0f5e347c411.jpg

[Full Court]

OP is correct. Also, Bronie had a four year head start on KAJ. Imagine if KAJ was able to start his NBA career at 18 like Bronie was.

[Spurs m8]

OP is correct. Also, Bronie had a four year head start on KAJ. Imagine if KAJ was able to start his NBA career at 18 like Bronie was.

Yep..
If you factor that in as well as bronie in the inflated stats era, he simply doesn't catch him...even with his stat padding

[1987_Lakers]

Yep..
If you factor that in as well as bronie in the inflated stats era, he simply doesn't catch him...even with his stat padding

Too dumb to realize LeBron played in 2004-2016 when stats were not inflated. That's 12-13 seasons.

You are a dumb fvck.

[Full Court]

Too dumb to realize LeBron played in 2004-2016 when stats were not inflated. That's 12-13 seasons.

You are a dumb fvck.

Which makes SEVEN SEASONS of inflated stats.

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[1987_Lakers]

Which makes SEVEN SEASONS of inflated stats.

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You realize Kareem played an entire decade where stats were inflated right?

Do some homework on the 80s then get back to me.

[Full Court]

You realize Kareem played an entire decade where stats were inflated right?

Do some homework on the 80s then get back to me.

Another phony narrative pushed by Bronue fluffers such as yourself. Stats were not inflated in the 80s.

[1987_Lakers]

Stats were not inflated in the 80s.

Wow. Please don't state things you have no clue about.

Average PPG for teams in 1985: 110.8 ppg
Average PPG for teams in 2022: 110.6 ppg

[1987_Lakers]

Also find it hilarious how a Wilt fan is talking about inflated stats when Wilt played in the era where stats were inflated the most out of any other era.

[Full Court]

Also find it hilarious how a Wilt fan is talking about inflated stats when Wilt played in the era where stats were inflated the most out of any other era.

Dudley's tactic: When losing an argument, always try to deflect to Wilt or Tom Brady.

Because we're talking about Lebron and KAJ, ya dingus. :lol

[Full Court]

Wow. Please don't state things you have no clue about.

Average PPG for teams in 1985: 110.8 ppg
Average PPG for teams in 2022: 110.6 ppg

You have an incredibly simplistic mind. You're absolutely incapable of understanding any context deeper than single stats.

[1987_Lakers]

Dudley's tactic: When losing an argument, always try to deflect to Wilt or Tom Brady.

Because we're talking about Lebron and KAJ, ya dingus. :lol

I just provided you some real data to back up my point and now you are deflecting.

Tell me, how were the 80's not inflated?

[1987_Lakers]

You have an incredibly simplistic mind. You're absolutely incapable of understanding any context deeper than single stats.

The 80's were the highest scoring decade in the last 40 years until today. Explain to me how they were not inflated.

[Full Court]

I just provided you some real data to back up my point and now you are deflecting.

Tell me, how were the 80's not inflated?

So by your argument, you're implying that Jordan won his rings in the toughest era. How interesting.

:lebronamazed:

[SaltyMeatballs]

Another phony narrative pushed by Bronue fluffers such as yourself. Stats were not inflated in the 80s.

Average pace in the 80s is higher than any other following decade

[1987_Lakers]

So by your argument, you're implying that Jordan won his rings in the toughest era. How interesting.

:lebronamazed:

He won titles in a defensive minded era where the pace was slowed down tremendously, but the top competition he went up against was weaker because the NBA added a bunch of expansion teams.

I'm still waiting for you to give a reason why the 80's were not inflated stats?

[1987_Lakers]

Average pace in the 80s is higher than any other following decade

1985 Pace: 102.1
2022 Pace: 98.2

"Stats were not inflated in the 80's" - full tard

[Full Court]

1985 Pace: 102.1
2022 Pace: 98.2

"Stats were not inflated in the 80's" - full tard

This just shows why you're an idiot. Higher pace will mean more points, but that's not inflated stats. Players still had to work much harder for their baskets than they do today. If anything, the higher pace required more stamina.

This era is considered an inflated stats era because defense is the weakest it's ever been. Thus it's easier to score today than it was then.

And there's more free education for you.

[SaltyMeatballs]

Higher pace will mean more points, but that's not inflated stats.
https://media.tenor.com/uMRYAV8Py9UAAAAC/russell-westbrook-nba.gif

[Full Court]

https://media.tenor.com/uMRYAV8Py9UAAAAC/russell-westbrook-nba.gif

You have to actually use your brain. You can't simply point to high scores and cry, "INFLATED STATS!"

Context matters. Read my post above. You may find it difficult to understand, but it lays it out pretty clearly.

[1987_Lakers]

This just shows why you're an idiot. Higher pace will mean more points, but that's not inflated stats. Players still had to work much harder for their baskets than they do today. If anything, the higher pace required more stamina.

This era is considered an inflated stats era because defense is the weakest it's ever been. Thus it's easier to score today than it was then.


And again, you provide no data to back up your points. Just opinions which you obviously have no clue about.

Not only was the scoring high, but teams were shooting 50% in the 80's, which is incredibly high.

In the 70's teams shot around 45-46 fg%
In the 90's and 00's it was the same, 45-46 fg%

So from the 70's-00's the era that had the most points scored and the highest efficiency on shots made were the 80's.

Yet, you are still stupid enough to try to argue otherwise, providing retarded statements like "players had to work harder for their basket" while the data shows otherwise.

I told you in another thread to do some research before you say something you know nothing about, but you continue to be impulsive which in result makes you look like a fool.

I hope you have learned your lesson.

[1987_Lakers]

https://media.tenor.com/uMRYAV8Py9UAAAAC/russell-westbrook-nba.gif

:lol

[Full Court]

And again, you provide no data to back up your points. Just opinions which you obviously have no clue about.

Not only was the scoring high, but teams were shooting 50% in the 80's, which is incredibly high.

In the 70's teams shot around 45-46 fg%
In the 90's and 00's it was the same, 45-46 fg%

So from the 70's-00's the era that had the most points scored and the highest efficiency on shots made were the 80's.

Yet, you are still stupid enough to try to argue otherwise, providing retarded statements like "players had to work harder for their basket" while the data shows otherwise.

I told you in another thread to do some research before you say something you know nothing about, but you continue to be impulsive which in result makes you look like a fool.

I hope you have learned your lesson.

:roll: Wow, you're really getting desperate. fg% was higher then because they weren't spending 2/3 of the game spamming three pointers.

:biggums:

Hate to break it to you, bro, but you're really not smart.

[1987_Lakers]

:roll: Wow, you're really getting desperate. fg% was higher then because they weren't spending 2/3 of the game spamming three pointers.

:biggums:

Hate to break it to you, bro, but you're really not smart.

The NBA didn't even have a 3 point line in the 70's. Teams in the 90's & 00's didn't use the 3 point line the way they use it today.

But if you want to go by TS% here you go.

1975 league average TS%: 50.2
1985 TS%: 54.3
1998 TS%: 52.4 (No short 3 point line)
2005 TS%: 52.9
2015 TS%: 53.4

80's still had the highest efficiency out of all of these eras.

[Full Court]

The NBA didn't even have a 3 point line in the 70's. Teams in the 90's & 00's didn't use the 3 point line the way they use it today.

But if you want to go by TS% here you go.

1975 league average TS%: 50.2
1985 TS%: 54.3
1998 TS%: 52.4 (No short 3 point line)
2005 TS%: 52.9

80's still had the highest efficiency out of all of these eras.

Reeeaaaaaaaally grasping at straws. :lol

Furiously going through stats to find one that supports your silly assertion.

"Bu-bu-bu-but TS%!"

But what about +/-? :roll:

[1987_Lakers]

Reeeaaaaaaaally grasping at straws. :lol

Furiously going through stats to find one that supports your silly assertion.

"Bu-bu-bu-but TS%!"

More evidence that you are a clueless retard. I show you real facts about efficiency and you deflect.

I still haven't seen you provide any data or facts to why the 80's did not produce inflated stats.

I showed you real data that the 80's played at a higher pace than any era from the 70's-10's, had the highest scoring efficiency from those eras and you respond with "grasping at straws"

Pathetic.

[Full Court]

More evidence that you are a clueless retard. I show you real facts about efficiency and you deflect.

I still haven't seen you provide any data or facts to why the 80's did not produce inflated stats.

I showed you real data that the 80's played at a higher pace than any era from the 70's-10's, had the highest scoring efficiency and you respond with "grasping at straws"

Pathetic.

You said that efficiency = inflated stats. :roll:

That's even dumber than your original statement. You're just getting silly now. So I guess Kobe had the most uninflated stats of all time given his inefficiency. :lol

[Axe]

Also find it hilarious how a Wilt fan is talking about inflated stats when Wilt played in the era where stats were inflated the most out of any other era.
Forget about lecturing him. Lebron broke him too hard to the point that he's become insanely dumb without any single hint of it.

[1987_Lakers]

You said that efficiency = inflated stats. :roll:

That's even dumber than your original statement. You're just getting silly now. So I guess Kobe had the most uninflated stats of all time given his inefficiency. :lol

You, just a few minutes ago.


This era is considered an inflated stats era because defense is the weakest it's ever been.

Doesn't weaker defense result in higher scoring efficiency for the offense?

Clueless retard.

[Full Court]

You, just a few minutes ago.



Doesn't weaker defense result in higher scoring efficiency for the offense?

Clueless retard.

And taking a fraction of the number of threes also results in higher scoring efficiency.

Low-IQ Bronie.

:lol

[1987_Lakers]

:roll: Wow, you're really getting desperate. fg% was higher then because they weren't spending 2/3 of the game spamming three pointers.

Wow, I missed this.

Dude really thought teams in the 90's & 00's were spending 2/3 of the game spamming 3s.

:roll:

[Full Court]

Wow, I missed this.

Dude really thought teams in the 90's & 00's were spending 2/3 of the game spamming 3s.

:roll:

Yet by your own stats you presented, the 90s were the lowest scoring decade since the 40s/50s.

Worked your own self into a corner again there, didn't ya?

:lebronamazed:

[1987_Lakers]

Yet by your own stats you presented, the 90s were the lowest scoring decade since the 40s/50s.

Where in my post did I say the 90's produced inflated stats?

[Full Court]

Where in my post did I say the 90's produced inflated stats?

You cited the average points per game, in which the 90s had the lowest points per game since the 40s/50s. Of course, you conveniently the 90s out of your post, because that would imply by your own logic that Jordan won all his rings in the toughest era in NBA history.

:lol

Silly Dudley.

[1987_Lakers]

You cited the average points per game, in which the 90s had the lowest points per game since the 40s/50s. Of course, you conveniently the 90s out of your post, because that would imply by your own logic that Jordan won all his rings in the toughest era in NBA history.

:lol

Silly Dudley.

wtf are you talking about? I mentioned the 90's.

Can you read?

[Full Court]

wtf are you talking about? I mentioned the 90's.

Can you read?

Oh, really?


Wow. Please don't state things you have no clue about.

Average PPG for teams in 1985: 110.8 ppg
Average PPG for teams in 2022: 110.6 ppg

Busted. :roll:

[1987_Lakers]

1975 league average TS%: 50.2
1985 TS%: 54.3
1998 TS%: 52.4 (No short 3 point line)
2005 TS%: 52.9
2015 TS%: 53.4


Busted

[1987_Lakers]

Also in case you missed this post


He won titles in a defensive minded era where the pace was slowed down tremendously, but the top competition he went up against was weaker because the NBA added a bunch of expansion teams.

I'm still waiting for you to give a reason why the 80's were not inflated stats?

Dude is getting beat down so bad he has to change the topic to a MJ discussion, which wasn't the topic at hand at all.

[Full Court]

You cited the average points per game, in which the 90s had the lowest points per game since the 40s/50s. Of course, you conveniently the 90s out of your post, because that would imply by your own logic that Jordan won all his rings in the toughest era in NBA history.

:lol

Silly Dudley.


Busted

Apparently you don't know the difference between PPG, which I CLEARLY mentioned in my post, and TS%.

You're getting flustered. You should go outside, get some fresh air, take a walk for a few minutes....

and then come back and continue getting your beatdown. :lol

[1987_Lakers]

Apparently you don't know the difference between PPG, which I CLEARLY mentioned in my post, and TS%.

You're getting flustered. You should go outside, get some fresh air, take a walk for a few minutes....

and then come back and continue getting your beatdown. :lol

I still don't get your point. Me bringing up the low ppg in the 90's would only strengthened my argument about the 80's having inflated stats.

The reason why I showed ppg from 1985 and 2022 is because the topic at hand was Kareem & LeBron, not MJ.

How can you be this dumb?

[Full Court]

I still don't get your point. Me bringing up the low ppg in the 90's would only strengthened my argument about the 80's having inflated stats.

The reason why I showed ppg from 1985 and 2022 is because the topic at hand was Kareem & LeBron, not MJ.

How can you be this dumb?

So then do you agree that Jordan won his rings in the toughest era in NBA history?

[8Ball]

LeBron being the greatest scorer of all time is not going well for the Jordan clan.

This is all that matters right now, something Jordan would never be able to do even if we replayed his life over 50x.

https://i.ibb.co/dtwCqCG/Screenshot-2023-02-12-at-4-14-01-PM.png

[8Ball]

So then do you agree that Jordan won his rings in the toughest era in NBA history?

No.


Jordan's finals competition are some of the worst in NBA history, next to Bill Russel in the 60s.


Even the teams Jordan faced in the ECF in the 90s are a bunch of no name teams. There's only 1 great team in the 90s and that was Chicago. No other teams were good.

[1987_Lakers]

So then do you agree that Jordan won his rings in the toughest era in NBA history?

I already answered this


He won titles in a defensive minded era where the pace was slowed down tremendously, but the top competition he went up against was weaker because the NBA added a bunch of expansion teams.

I'm still waiting for you to give a reason why the 80's were not inflated stats?

His stats for sure were not inflated in the 90's, but his competition wasn't anywhere near as hard as it was for Bird, Magic, & LeBron, what those 3 players faced in the Finals was a bloodbath compared to what MJ faced.

You still haven't explained why the 80's did not have inflated stats.

You have nothing.

[Full Court]

I already answered this



His stats for sure were not inflated in the 90's, but his competition wasn't anywhere near as hard as it was for Bird, Magic, & LeBron, what those 3 players faced in the Finals was a bloodbath compared to what MJ faced.

You still haven't explained why the 80's did not have inflated stats.

You have nothing.

I certainly did. Higher pace does not = inflated stats.

No defense does = inflated stats.

I find that I have to repeat myself a lot when talking to you. Take the time to try to comprehend what you read.

[8Ball]

Lebron made over 2000 3s. 3s didn't exist in Kareem's first 10 seasons or so. Kareem only took 18 3s and made one. So Kareem had to make a lot more shots than Lebron. 3 pointers weren't even emphasized in the 80s.

Also, Jordan had 10 scoring titles to Lebron's 1. Even KD has 4 scoring titles. Doncic averages more points per game than Lebron.

Wrong.

Kareem played in some of the highest paced eras in history.

https://e7n9s5t9.stackpathcdn.com/articles/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Pace-by-season-1-768x558.png


If LeBron could have played in the 70s and 80s he'd be at 45K points by now.

[1987_Lakers]

I certainly did. Higher pace does not = inflated stats.

No defense does = inflated stats.

I find that I have to repeat myself a lot when talking to you. Take the time to try to comprehend what you read.

What a pathetic, elementary school argument.

:lol

[Full Court]

What a pathetic, elementary school argument.

:lol

Just shows that you have a simplistic mind. You don't know what inflated stats are. You don't know what advanced stats are. And you don't know what empty stats are. :roll:

[1987_Lakers]

You don't know what advanced stats are.

:roll:

The irony

I already showed you data backing up my points, you have provided absolutely nothing but retarded opinions.

You don't have the intellect to debate me.

[8Ball]

Just shows that you have a simplistic mind. You don't know what inflated stats are. You don't know what advanced stats are. And you don't know what empty stats are. :roll:

NBA.com already put +/- as a basic stat, not advanced.


Maybe to your brain its an advanced stat, not to the rest of the educated world.

[AlternativeAcc.]

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Full Court wins again!

[SaltyMeatballs]

Also in case you missed this post



Dude is getting beat down so bad he has to change the topic to a MJ discussion, which wasn't the topic at hand at all.

You can tell how insecure he is :oldlol:

[SaltyMeatballs]

Just shows that you have a simplistic mind. You don't know what inflated stats are. You don't know what advanced stats are. And you don't know what empty stats are. :roll:

Literally describing yourself to a tee

[Axe]

https://www.parc-fl.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Parc-Images_AboutUs-Header-scaled.jpg






Full Court wins again!
:lol

[SaltyMeatballs]

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Full Court wins again!

:oldlol::roll:

[Hey Yo]

I certainly did. Higher pace does not = inflated stats.

No defense does = inflated stats.


I find that I have to repeat myself a lot when talking to you. Take the time to try to comprehend what you read.

Outside of a handfull of teams, the 80's was anything but a defensive era.

[Full Court]

NBA.com already put +/- as a basic stat, not advanced.


Maybe to your brain its an advanced stat, not to the rest of the educated world.

Let's try this with you, since 1987_Dudley has no spine or cajones.

Define what an advanced stat is. Let's see if you know.

[1987_Lakers]

Literally describing yourself to a tee

:roll:

[Full Court]

Literally describing yourself to a tee


:lol

Full Court: upsetting Bronie fluffers on a daily basis. :roll:

Cry it out and drink more soy milk.

:lebroncry:

[Axe]

Sounds like a desperate autistic mongoloid who gets more copium with each lame trolling. :oldlol:

[Full Court]

Sounds like a desperate autistic mongoloid who gets more copium with each lame trolling. :oldlol:

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"You cute little poopstick dingus you."

[ELITEpower23]

You realize Kareem played an entire decade where stats were inflated right?

Do some homework on the 80s then get back to me.

:lol 87 out here taking souls today

[ArbitraryWater]

jesus christ full court, stop doing this to yourself

[Full Court]

:lol 87 out here taking souls today


jesus christ full court, stop doing this to yourself

Do you guys agree with Dudley that a high pace = inflated stats? Put yourselves on record. :lol

[1987_Lakers]

Do you guys agree with Dudley that a high pace = inflated stats? Put yourselves on record. :lol

This dummy doesn't understand that higher pace = equal more possessions for a team which in turn results in more shots made and attempted by a player.

High pace is the main reason why people say Wilt's stats were inflated.

[Axe]

This dummy doesn't understand that higher pace = equal more possessions for a team which in turn results in more shots made and attempted by a player.

High pace is the main reason why people say Wilt's stats were inflated.
Apparently, he's just too braindead to realize that all of wilt's 100-points scoring game came exclusively from two-point field goals. :hammerhead:

[Full Court]

Apparently, he's just too braindead to realize that all of wilt's 100-points scoring game came exclusively from two-point field goals. :hammerhead:

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"Hey, poopstick. Tell me about how you dress up like a merman."

[Axe]

Can't even debunk my point so he just resorts to pre-school trolling. How incompetent. :sleeping

[Full Court]

This dummy doesn't understand that higher pace = equal more possessions for a team which in turn results in more shots made and attempted by a player.

High pace is the main reason why people say Wilt's stats were inflated.

You're only making a dummy out of yourself.

Lakers have the second highest pace in the league this year. At least they did a month or two ago. So you're saying that the Lakers have the second most inflated stats in the league. :roll:

You're seriously an idiot. If a team can push the pace, get more possessions, and get more points, that's not "inflating" their stats any more than shooting more efficiently is "inflating" stats.

[1987_Lakers]

You're only making a dummy out of yourself.

Lakers have the second highest pace in the league this year. At least they did a month or two ago. So you're saying that the Lakers have the second most inflated stats in the league. :roll:

You're seriously an idiot. If a team can push the pace, get more possessions, and get more points, that's not "inflating" their stats any more than shooting more efficiently is "inflating" stats.

You're bringing up something that we are not even debating about. Now who's grasping at straws?

I never said the NBA today didn't have inflated stats, because it's obvious to everyone that stats today are inflated.

You're the idiot who said 80's stats aren't inflated and I showed you that they are.

[Full Court]

You're bringing up something that we are not even debating about. Now who's grasping at straws?

I never said the NBA today didn't have inflated stats, because it's obvious to everyone that stats today are inflated.

You're the idiot who said 80's stats aren't inflated and I showed you that they are.

No, you showed that the 80s were higher paced than the 90s and 00s. But then, like a moron, you think that high pace means inflated stats. And you're likely going to keep on thinking that, regardless of how dumb it makes you look.

But that's ok. We all already know how dumb you are after your Tom Brady discussion. :roll:

[1987_Lakers]

No, you showed that the 80s were higher paced than the 90s and 00s. But then, like a moron, you think that high pace means inflated stats. And you're likely going to keep on thinking that, regardless of how dumb it makes you look.

But that's ok. We all already know how dumb you are after your Tom Brady discussion. :roll:

Too stupid to realize fans have been using pace to determine inflated stats for years.

You are truly a moron.

Everytime you debate me, you embarrass yourself. This whole board is laughing at you.

[coastalmarker99]

I don't think there is any question that Chamberlain could have held the scoring record from 1966 to 2023 before Lebron would have eventually broken it.

As Had Chamberlain who was already dominating the college player of the year while in HS been allowed to enter the pros at 18.


That's easily another 6000+ points (he scored 2700 in his rookie season.)





then, factor in that he left basketball after a season in which he finished 4th in the MVP voting, and set a FG% record that stood for close to 50 years...and in fact, in the very last game of his career he hung a 23 point game (on 9-16 shooting, to go along with 21 rebounds)...

how many more seasons could he have played? remember that Wilt was still getting offers to join teams even at 50 years old.

Then you ask yourself..how much more could he have scored had he not listened to his coaches.

As he averaged 40 ppg over the course of his first seven seasons...combined.


Then, because he was asked to...dramatically cut back his shooting in the next three seasons...and could "only" average 23 ppg over that span.

But, his new coach in the '69-70 season asked a 33-year-old Wilt to become the focal point of the offense...and boom...led the league at 32.2 ppg before he blew out his knee.

Clearly, had Wilt been asked to score, he likely would have added 2000+ points between '67 -'69.

Therefore I don't think there is any question that Chamberlain could have scored close to 40,000+ points had he decided to pursue it.

[Full Court]

Too stupid to realize fans have been using pace to determine inflated stats for years.

You are truly a moron.

Everytime you debate me, you embarrass yourself. This whole board is laughing at you.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh "fans" have been doing that. :roll: Well that settles the debate then. If Dudley's imaginary "fans" have been doing that, then who am I to argue?

:roll:

This keeps getting better.

[Axe]

I don't think there is any question that Chamberlain could have held the scoring record from 1966 to 2023 before Lebron would have broken it.

As Had Chamberlain who was already dominating the college player of the year while in HS been allowed to enter the pros at 18.


That's Easily another 6000+ points (he scored 2700 in his rookie season.)





then, factor in that he left basketball after a season in which he finished 4th in the MVP voting, and set a FG% record that stood for close to 50 years...and in fact, in the very last game of his career he hung a 23 point game (on 9-16 shooting, to go along with 21 rebounds)...

how many more seasons could he have played?

Then you ask yourself..how much more could he have scored had he not listened to his coaches He averaged 40 ppg over the course of his first seven seasons...combined.


Then, because he was asked to...dramatically cut back his shooting in the next three seasons...and could "only" average 23 ppg over that span.

But, his new coach in the '69-70 season asked Wilt to become the focal point of the offense...and boom...led the league at 32.2 ppg before he blew out his knee.

Clearly, had Wilt been asked to score, he likely would have added 2000+ points between '67 -'69.

Therefore I don't think there is any question that Chamberlain could have scored close to 40,000+ points had he decided to pursue it.
He could have likely had if there was already a three-point line and if he also practiced on it bt.

[1987_Lakers]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh "fans" have been doing that. :roll: Well that settles the debate then. If Dudley's imaginary "fans" have been doing that, then who am I to argue?

:roll:

This keeps getting better.

One thing is for sure, all of these fans aren't stupid enough to say "Austin Reaves is poised to make the All-Star team"

:roll:

[coastalmarker99]

LeBron James, as we all know was allowed to play in the NBA from ages 19 to 22, right out of high school.



During those years, he racked up 8,439 points, 2,102 rebounds, and 2,033 assists.

Players were not able to be drafted out of high school until a 1971 Supreme Court Case changed that law.

Being very, very conservative, let's say Wilt averaged 25/20/2 from ages 19-22.



As from what I’ve read Wilt while being coached by Red scrimmaged against NBA players such as Neil Johnston while he was a teenager and utterly dominated them (Tall Tales by Terry Pluto).

He'd have over 36000 points, ~30,000 rebounds, and ~5,000 assists in his career.


Lebron's scoring record is impressive.

But you do have to factor in that guys such as Kareem and Wilt would have racked up even better counting stats had they been allowed to enter the NBA straight out of high school

[1987_Lakers]

:roll: Wow, you're really getting desperate. fg% was higher then because they weren't spending 2/3 of the game spamming three pointers.

:biggums:

This dude really said 90's & 00's teams were spending 2/3 of the game spamming 3s. :oldlol:

[Full Court]

This dude really said 90's & 00's teams were spending 2/3 of the game spamming 3s. :oldlol:

Utter desperation. You knew very well I was talking about the current era, but you pretty much always fabricate stuff when you lose arguments. That's another sure indicator that you got beat down. Again. :lol

[1987_Lakers]

Utter desperation. You knew very well I was talking about the current era


Stop lying


And again, you provide no data to back up your points. Just opinions which you obviously have no clue about.

Not only was the scoring high, but teams were shooting 50% in the 80's, which is incredibly high.

In the 70's teams shot around 45-46 fg%
In the 90's and 00's it was the same, 45-46 fg%

So from the 70's-00's the era that had the most points scored and the highest efficiency on shots made were the 80's.

Yet, you are still stupid enough to try to argue otherwise, providing retarded statements like "players had to work harder for their basket" while the data shows otherwise.

I told you in another thread to do some research before you say something you know nothing about, but you continue to be impulsive which in result makes you look like a fool.

I hope you have learned your lesson.

You quoted that post and this was your response.


:roll: Wow, you're really getting desperate. fg% was higher then because they weren't spending 2/3 of the game spamming three pointers.

:biggums:

Hate to break it to you, bro, but you're really not smart.


Nowhere did I mention the current era. Exposed.

[Full Court]

Stop lying



You quoted that post and this was your response.




Nowhere did I mention the current era. Exposed.

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Man, the truth sure hurts you. You know exactly what I meant. You're just bitter because you got destroyed in your 6th consecutive argument with me. :lol

"Bu-bu-bu-bu-but pace equals stats!!! And Tom Brady had a higher pace than Bronie!!!"

[1987_Lakers]

You know exactly what I meant.

I did. Like I said, I know you are still a teenager and not old enough to remember 90's and 00's NBA, but next time do some research before posting nonsense.

[Full Court]

I did. Like I said, I know you are still a teenager and not old enough to remember 90's and 00's NBA, but next time do some research before posting nonsense.

So bitter. :roll:

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[1987_Lakers]

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We know thats how you feel right now.

[Full Court]

We know thats how you feel right now.

Most kids can come up with a better comback than that by time they're in second grade or so. :roll:

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[SATAN]

Wow.

Full Court is the biggest ****in' retard ever.

What an idiot and an embarrassment.

My god. This is really pathetic.

Getting ****in' OWNED beyond belief and too stupid to admit he's wrong. Just keeps making himself look more stupid as the thread continues.

Unbelievably sad individual.

Keep up the good work, 1987_Lakers. :applause:

Highly entertaining seeing this mongoloid getting obliterated day after day. :oldlol:

[1987_Lakers]

Wow.

Full Court is the biggest ****in' retard ever.

What an idiot and an embarrassment.

My god. This is really pathetic.

Getting ****in' OWNED beyond belief and too stupid to admit he's wrong. Just keeps making himself look more stupid as the thread continues.

Unbelievably sad individual.

He does it every single time. :oldlol:

[Axe]

Wow.

Full Court is the biggest ****in' retard ever.

What an idiot and an embarrassment.

My god. This is really pathetic.

Getting ****in' OWNED beyond belief and too stupid to admit he's wrong. Just keeps making himself look more stupid as the thread continues.

Unbelievably sad individual.

Keep up the good work, 1987_Lakers. :applause:

Highly entertaining seeing this mongoloid getting obliterated day after day. :oldlol:
:roll:

So true. He's a braindead zombie who's a total disgrace in humanity. He should have been aborted. The world would be in a much better place that way. :lol

[Full Court]

Wow.

Full Court is the biggest ****in' retard ever.

What an idiot and an embarrassment.

My god. This is really pathetic.

Getting ****in' OWNED beyond belief and too stupid to admit he's wrong. Just keeps making himself look more stupid as the thread continues.

Unbelievably sad individual.

Keep up the good work, 1987_Lakers. :applause:

Highly entertaining seeing this mongoloid getting obliterated day after day.


He does it every single time.


:roll:

So true. He's a braindead zombie who's a total disgrace in humanity. He should have been aborted. The world would be in a much better place that way. :lol

A flock of triggered dingus. :roll:

One of whom is a whiny Beezleblubber, one of whom has the debating skills of a child, and one of whom dresses up like a merman.

:roll:

[SATAN]

I bet the idiot said something to me even though he knows I don't even read what he says unless he's getting quoted and destroyed.

[1987_Lakers]

:lol 87 out here taking souls today


Keep up the good work, 1987_Lakers. :applause:

Highly entertaining seeing this mongoloid getting obliterated day after day. :oldlol:


jesus christ full court, stop doing this to yourself

The people have spoken. :pimp:

[Axe]

Redneck jizzrag always bleeding and weeping it out as usual. :sleeping

[Full Court]

I bet the idiot said something to me even though he knows I don't even read what he says unless he's getting quoted and destroyed.

Beezleblubber constantly tries to say he ignores me....all while not ignoring me. :roll:

What a loser.

[Full Court]

The people have spoken. :pimp:

I don't think you can really call Bronie fluffers "people." :lol

[Full Court]

Redneck jizzrag always bleeding and weeping it out as usual. :sleeping

A dingus among Bronies.

A merman among dinguses.

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[1987_Lakers]

I don't think you can really call Bronie fluffers "people." :lol

Don't you find it weird that none of the "Bron haters" ever come to your defense in these threads?

Even they are wise enough to see there is no defending your statements.:lol

[Full Court]

Don't you find it weird that none of the "Bron haters" ever come to your defense in these threads?

Even they are wise enough to see there is no defending your statements.:lol

Why would any one come to the "defense" of someone who's giving a whole group of Bronie fluffers a beatdown??

Now the fact that you have all these Bronies flocking to try to rescue you shows how bad you got trounced. :lol

You're about as sharp as a bowling ball.

[1987_Lakers]

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lol

[Full Court]

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:roll:

[Axe]

Don't you find it weird that none of the "Bron haters" ever come to your defense in these threads?

Even they are wise enough to see there is no defending your statements.:lol
He spends so much time getting worked up and being sleepless by being a pathetic punching bag here but he's too braindead to realize it. Like clockwork.

[Full Court]

He spends so much time getting worked up and being sleepless by being a pathetic punching bag here but he's too braindead to realize it. Like clockwork.

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