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Soundwave
02-15-2023, 01:08 PM
According to Shaq his top 5 would be unbeatable, and that five is

C - Shaq (of course)
PF - LeBron
SF - Kobe
SG - Jordan
PG - Iverson


Now a lot of talent there. Put together a group of 5 other players that you think would give this group the most amount of trouble or possibly just beat them. Here's my take ...

C - Hakeem
PF - Giannis
SF - Durant
SG - Kawhi (pre-injuries)
PG - Steph

My thinking is Hakeem per Shaq is the player that most gave Shaq problems. Giannis being another 7 footer with crazy athletcism can be like a swiss army knife (do a bit of everything) even give Hakeem some rest by covering Shaq at times perhaps.

Durant and Steph are no brainers for being able to shoot and spread the floor it would make that Shaq team sweat. Kawhi is my wing defender because you need someone to go to toe to toe with any of Jordan/Kobe/LeBron.

Steph can change the game obviously with his shooting. I though about having Klay Thompson actually instead of Kawhi, because the shooting ability could really wreak havoc but opting not to.

SouBeachTalents
02-15-2023, 01:11 PM
Shaq's team is fcking trash, Jordan & Kobe on the same team with IVERSON at the point :oldlol:

Curry
Klay
Kawhi
Bird
Hakeem

smashes that team.

Im Still Ballin
02-15-2023, 01:13 PM
Team Old School:

Wilt Chamberlain
Bill Russell
Julius Erving
Jerry West
Oscar Robertson

Real Men Wear Green
02-15-2023, 01:14 PM
Shaq just makes some players he likes and/or respects that isn't a team built to compliment one another. He's the only pollster on that team that isn't a ball dominant perimeter player and the 4 perimeter players all shoot threes average at best.

hateraid
02-15-2023, 01:30 PM
Duncan
Bird
Durant
Curry
Magic

j3lademaster
02-15-2023, 01:30 PM
pg- Lebron
sg- Curry
sf- Durant
pf- Giannis
c- Jokic for passing and shooting to compliment Giannis or Hakeem for more defense. Can't decide.

Gohan
02-15-2023, 05:57 PM
Shaq's team is fcking trash, Jordan & Kobe on the same team with IVERSON at the point :oldlol:

Curry
Klay
Kawhi
Bird
Hakeem

smashes that team.

I’ll take shaqs opinion over some random f@ggot on a message board that doesnt believe in God because he knows God dont like f@ggots

ArbitraryWater
02-15-2023, 06:19 PM
terrible team.

yikes

SouBeachTalents
02-15-2023, 06:22 PM
I’ll take shaqs opinion over some random f@ggot on a message board that doesnt believe in God because he knows God dont like f@ggots
Yeah, me too.

Axe
02-15-2023, 06:22 PM
Kobe, jordan and iverson lmao.

All those three are very selfish.

RRR3
02-15-2023, 06:52 PM
pg- Lebron
sg- Curry
sf- Durant
pf- Giannis
c- Jokic for passing and shooting to compliment Giannis or Hakeem for more defense. Can't decide.
How is LeBron gonna play against himself?

Smook A.
02-15-2023, 07:09 PM
Curry
Jordan
LeBron
Duncan
Hakeem

SouBeachTalents
02-15-2023, 07:12 PM
Why do people keep picking LeBron when's already on Shaq's team :lol

John8204
02-15-2023, 07:16 PM
PG - Magic
SG - Steph
SF - Bird
PF - Hakeem
C - Laimbeer (big that can stretch the floor and knock down threes)

FultzNationRISE
02-15-2023, 07:29 PM
Danny Ainge
Chris Childs
Raja Bell
Barkley
Brad Miller

j3lademaster
02-15-2023, 08:10 PM
How is LeBron gonna play against himself?He's just that good.

Honestly I didn't read the entire op until you pointed it out.

HoopologyPhD
02-16-2023, 10:32 AM
C- Bill Walton
PF- Kevin McHale
SF-Bird
SG-Luka
PG-Stockton

Manny98
02-16-2023, 11:53 AM
No that hard to beat with that god awful spacing and terrible fit

Curry
Kawhi
KD
KG
Duncan

ImKobe
02-16-2023, 12:00 PM
Hakeem
KD
Kawhi
Klay
Curry

FilmyCogTurner
02-16-2023, 12:55 PM
Wilt
Giannis
KD
TMac
Curry

Sucks to leave off Magic and Bird in this

hold this L
02-16-2023, 02:43 PM
Shaq's team has horrible balance. 3/5 guys need the ball and to shoot it a lot.

Bill, Duncan, KD, Kawhi, Steph would beat them.

MrFonzworth
02-16-2023, 03:21 PM
I’ll take shaqs opinion over some random f@ggot on a message board that doesnt believe in God because he knows God dont like f@ggots

:roll::roll::roll:

warriorfan
02-16-2023, 11:15 PM
best team of all time according to sim was

PG: Steph Curry/ Tim Hardaway
SG Vince Carter / Klay Thompson
SF Andrei Kerilinko / Robert Horry
PF Kevin Garnett
C Joakim Noah / Marcus Camby

I don’t remember who my other PF was. I think Horry and Kerilinko would play some minutes at the 4, sometimes Noah too maybe. Vince and Klay were able to slide down to SF too when needed. Could basically go big or small. Good spacing and passing, great DPOY level athletic long defenders at multiple positions with ability to switch. We know how good Curry/Green combo is and KG is just like an Elon Musk’s Draymond.

but this team was number 1 in our draft by far and even swept the 92 dream team consistently

1987_Lakers
02-16-2023, 11:19 PM
best team of all time according to sim was

PG: Steph Curry/ Tim Hardaway
SG Vince Carter / Klay Thompson
SF Andrei Kerilinko / Robert Horry
PF Kevin Garnett
C Joakim Noah / Marcus Camby

I don’t remember who my other PF was. I think Horry and Kerilinko would play some minutes at the 4, sometimes Noah too maybe. Vince and Klay were able to slide down to SF too when needed. Could basically go big or small. Good spacing and passing, great DPOY level athletic long defenders at multiple positions with ability to switch. We know how good Curry/Green combo is and KG is just like an Elon Musk’s Draymond.

but this team was number 1 in our draft by far and even swept the 92 dream team consistently

Only morons take whatifsports seriously. (Bill Russell only has like a 75 defensive rating on there)

Realgm picked my team as the GOAT

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?505345-*****All-Time-NBA-Players-Peak-Draft*****/page25
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2207635

:pimp:

C - David Robinson | A. Gilmore
F . R. Wallace | C. Bosh
F - Kawhi | Pierce
G - MJ | R. Allen
G - Stockton | W. Frazier

warriorfan
02-16-2023, 11:22 PM
Only morons take whatifsports seriously. (Bill Russell only has like a 75 defensive rating on there)

Realgm picked my team as the GOAT

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?505345-*****All-Time-NBA-Players-Peak-Draft*****/page25
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2207635

:pimp:

C - David Robinson | A. Gilmore
F . R. Wallace | C. Bosh
F - Kawhi | Pierce
G - MJ | R. Allen
G - Stockton | W. Frazier

realGayMen

1987_Lakers
02-16-2023, 11:25 PM
realGayMen

I've seen you shit on realgm many times, which is your right, but to turn around and act like whatifsports is more reliable/accurate is comical.

SouBeachTalents
02-16-2023, 11:28 PM
The worst aspect of whatifsports is they literally don't factor fatigue into their simulations. I remember people were playing their starters 48 minutes and they saw no decline in play :lol

1987_Lakers
02-16-2023, 11:32 PM
The worst aspect of whatifsports is they literally don't factor fatigue into their simulations. I remember people were playing their starters 48 minutes and they saw no decline in play :lol

Damn, I forgot all about this. I remember participating in a separate whatifsports draft (which iamgine won). I adjusted my starters minutes to like 32 mpg or something in the beginning, once everyone found out fatigue wasn't a factor, everyone played their starters 48 mpg, which basically meant there was no reason for any of us to go past round 5 in the draft. :lol

AlternativeAcc.
02-16-2023, 11:34 PM
I've seen you shit on realgm many times, which is your right, but to turn around and act like whatifsports is more reliable/accurate is comical.

Yeah whatif is a joke lol.

Lol @ that broke guy bragging about a whatif draft multiple times.

Dude is a massive loser.

warriorfan
02-16-2023, 11:37 PM
Yeah whatif is a joke lol.

Lol @ that broke guy bragging about a whatif draft multiple times.

Dude is a massive loser.

says the guy who spent his entire team’s super bowl run by himself spamming on ish.

:lol :roll:

AlternativeAcc.
02-16-2023, 11:45 PM
says the guy who spent his entire team’s super bowl run by himself spamming on ish.


You mean when I talked football in a football thread, while you lurked and only posted to beg for my attention?



Meanwhile.....




https://i.postimg.cc/6QN686cC/Screenshot-20230211-071338.png
https://i.postimg.cc/Bvq9WjN7/Screenshot-20230211-071805.png
https://i.postimg.cc/x1mbF4Q0/fgfgfghfghcfgh.jpg



:roll:


You're the biggest loser of all time. "Muh whatif!!!! look guys what if!!!" :roll:

warriorfan
02-17-2023, 12:05 AM
You mean when I talked football in a football thread, while you lurked and only posted to beg for my attention?



Meanwhile.....







:roll:


You're the biggest loser of all time. "Muh whatif!!!! look guys what if!!!" :roll:

nice projection :lol

if by “lurking” you mean skimming the thread on monday and seeing 90% of it was you talking to yourself during the games…

then yeah, was totally lurking bro.

:roll:

Reggie43
02-17-2023, 12:06 AM
C - Hakeem
Pf - Giannis
Sf - Bird
Sg - Kawhi
Pg - Magic

bizil
02-17-2023, 12:21 PM
PG - Steph
SG- T Mac
SF- KD
PF - Giannis
C- Dream

I thought about sliding Kawhi at the SG, BUT I think T Mac peak wise is ARGUABLY as the 3rd best SG of all time. Only behind MJ and Kobe. To THIS DAY, I havent seen another SG at damn near 6'9 with that blend of freak athletic ability, scoring skillset, handles, and passing ability.

bizil
02-17-2023, 12:28 PM
Wilt
Giannis
KD
TMac
Curry

Sucks to leave off Magic and Bird in this

My thoughts EXACTLY!!! I had the same exact squad you have except I have Dream at the 5 instead of Wilt. Magic and Bird were the 1st two guys I left off and was like damn had to leave them off.

paksat
02-17-2023, 12:33 PM
there's a ton of issues with that team

no good, let alone great, 3 point shooters
bad defenders, just lol @ iverson defending anything, bron sucks too, kobe is hit and miss and mostly missing, shaq will stand there I guess.

C: wilt
PF: hakeem
SF: garnett
SG: tracy mcgrady
PG: Wade


that team would make a mockery of his team, lool just LOL @ lebron trying to guard hakeem. Same goes for iverson trying to guard wade.

SouBeachTalents
02-17-2023, 12:49 PM
there's a ton of issues with that team

no good, let alone great, 3 point shooters
bad defenders, just lol @ iverson defending anything, bron sucks too, kobe is hit and miss and mostly missing, shaq will stand there I guess.

C: wilt
PF: hakeem
SF: garnett
SG: tracy mcgrady
PG: Wade


that team would make a mockery of his team, lool just LOL @ lebron trying to guard hakeem. Same goes for iverson trying to guard wade.
You criticize no 3 point shooting, then put out this lineup :lol

And you can LOL at LeBron guarding Hakeem, but LeBron would make him play out on the perimeter, negating much of his defensive impact.

j3lademaster
02-17-2023, 01:21 PM
Steph, Klay, Durant, Giannis, Hakeem.

Basically the 17-19 Warriors retooled at their bigs.

j3lademaster
02-17-2023, 01:32 PM
You criticize no 3 point shooting, then put out this lineup :lol

And you can LOL at LeBron guarding Hakeem, but LeBron would make him play out on the perimeter, negating much of his defensive impact.i have zero doubt Hakeem can be a switch everything defender a la Giannis. He’s got some of the goat footwork and some of the quickest hands on a big I’ve ever seen. He used to strip guys like Stockton, Rod and Paytonpretty regularly. He gonna stop Lebron? Hell no, But who is? He’ll do as good of a job as anyone, though. I don’t know if he’ll be getting stocks the way he used to due to more 3’s(tougher to block) and def 3 sec rule, but he can probably be JJJ’s level.

But he’s also sleeping on how strong Lebron is on the block. I think Lebron does a better job guarding Hakeem than most people think.

ArbitraryWater
02-17-2023, 05:33 PM
Why do people keep picking LeBron when's already on Shaq's team :lol


its a hypothetica match-up/starting five, not a draft lmao

jayfan
02-17-2023, 05:40 PM
Bird & Hakeem for sure.

Have to narrow down the other 3.

.

hateraid
02-17-2023, 06:28 PM
You mean when I talked football in a football thread, while you lurked and only posted to beg for my attention?



Meanwhile.....




https://i.postimg.cc/6QN686cC/Screenshot-20230211-071338.png
https://i.postimg.cc/Bvq9WjN7/Screenshot-20230211-071805.png
https://i.postimg.cc/x1mbF4Q0/fgfgfghfghcfgh.jpg



:roll:


You're the biggest loser of all time. "Muh whatif!!!! look guys what if!!!" :roll:

Lol, I remember that. Warriorfan crying over Simon. This alone is worth bringing PMs back

paksat
02-18-2023, 08:41 AM
You criticize no 3 point shooting, then put out this lineup :lol

And you can LOL at LeBron guarding Hakeem, but LeBron would make him play out on the perimeter, negating much of his defensive impact.

because fck tard, if they don't have any 3 point shooters I don't need any either. I'll just put out bigger better mid range players and destroy them on the boards and on defense.

lebron can't even guard a midget on the mavericks, stop this narrative no ones buying it. LOL @ lebron "forcing" hakeem out to the perimeter when shaq couldn't even do that sh*t to him in the finals.

stfu.

Axe
02-18-2023, 09:00 AM
there's a ton of issues with that team

no good, let alone great, 3 point shooters
bad defenders, just lol @ iverson defending anything, bron sucks too, kobe is hit and miss and mostly missing, shaq will stand there I guess.

C: wilt
PF: hakeem
SF: garnett
SG: tracy mcgrady
PG: Wade


that team would make a mockery of his team, lool just LOL @ lebron trying to guard hakeem. Same goes for iverson trying to guard wade.
Lmao so you are still alive huh? How are egg prices doing today eh?

paksat
02-18-2023, 10:27 AM
Lmao so you are still alive huh? How are egg prices doing today eh?

higher than ever loser, thanks for pointing that out : )

1987_Lakers
02-18-2023, 10:35 AM
You criticize no 3 point shooting, then put out this lineup :lol


For real wtf. Dude has Wade in the backcourt and KG and Hakeem as SF and PF.

SouBeachTalents
02-18-2023, 01:49 PM
because fck tard, if they don't have any 3 point shooters I don't need any either. I'll just put out bigger better mid range players and destroy them on the boards and on defense.

lebron can't even guard a midget on the mavericks, stop this narrative no ones buying it. LOL @ lebron "forcing" hakeem out to the perimeter when shaq couldn't even do that sh*t to him in the finals.

stfu.
Amazing how someone can have so much confidence in their opinion yet be so utterly clueless on the subject :lol Your team has even worse 3 point shooting and spacing than Shaq's, no easy task.

And did you just compare LeBron playing on the perimeter to mother fcking SHAQ?

:roll:

What an absolute moron, and he actually thinks he's right too. Dunning-Kruger effect in full display in that post.

paksat
02-18-2023, 03:11 PM
Amazing how someone can have so much confidence in their opinion yet be so utterly clueless on the subject :lol Your team has even worse 3 point shooting and spacing than Shaq's, no easy task.

And did you just compare LeBron playing on the perimeter to mother fcking SHAQ?

:roll:

What an absolute moron, and he actually thinks he's right too. Dunning-Kruger effect in full display in that post.

Unlike you I actually played ball professionally amongst people everywhere from Israel, to all across Europe.

You didn't refute one thing I said, you got mofo'n lebron gonna guard the dream and you think I'm worried about 3 pointers? Lol

Shaqs team will never see a rebound, get bent dork.

AlternativeAcc.
02-18-2023, 04:29 PM
Unlike you I actually played ball professionally amongst people everywhere from Israel, to all across Europe.

You didn't refute one thing I said, you got mofo'n lebron gonna guard the dream and you think I'm worried about 3 pointers? Lol

Shaqs team will never see a rebound, get bent dork.

Shaq played actual professional ball and you were critiquing his team.

Your team sucks, not sure why that angers you so much

Axe
02-19-2023, 06:48 PM
higher than ever loser, thanks for pointing that out : )
Fuming. :oldlol:

expansionera
02-19-2023, 06:56 PM
According to Shaq his top 5 would be unbeatable, and that five is

C - Shaq (of course)
PF - LeBron
SF - Kobe
SG - Jordan
PG - Iverson
.

Kidd takes Iverson completely out of the game, give me Kawhi give me Pippen on the wing. That eliminates Jordan and Kobe from the conversation. I want Garnett on LeBron, I think he gives him fits. Then Wilt, a freak of nature needs to battle it out with a freak of nature.

TAZORAC
02-19-2023, 07:31 PM
No way in hell Iverson, Bryant and Jordan on the same team would be good. Also that squad doesn't have enough PURE SHOOTING. The NBA has changed, I could put together about 20 line ups.

Here's a few
LOADED SHOOTING: Curry, Mcgrady, Durant, Nowitzski, Embid

Curry, Mcgrady, Durant, Leonard, Oljawon
Curry, Harden, Durant, Giannis, Oljawon
Lillard, Curry, Durant, Giannis, Oljawon

paksat
02-19-2023, 09:15 PM
Kidd takes Iverson completely out of the game, give me Kawhi give me Pippen on the wing. That eliminates Jordan and Kobe from the conversation. I want Garnett on LeBron, I think he gives him fits. Then Wilt, a freak of nature needs to battle it out with a freak of nature.

great defense, but not enough scoring.

kawhi can get his, pippen is just not on the same level as the rest of the scorers besides kidd ofc.

that's a crazy good defensive team though. There's a reason I put wade running the point in my list, he did it plenty at miami and he's a damn fine passer. He can play just as good defense as kidd, while also dropping 30.

post
02-19-2023, 11:08 PM
lauren jackson
bo outlaw
elena delle donne
alex caruso
cynthia cooper

j3lademaster
02-20-2023, 01:06 PM
Unlike you I actually played ball professionally amongst people everywhere from Israel, to all across Europe.

You didn't refute one thing I said, you got mofo'n lebron gonna guard the dream and you think I'm worried about 3 pointers? Lol

Shaqs team will never see a rebound, get bent dork.


Shaq played actual professional ball and you were critiquing his team.

Your team sucks, not sure why that angers you so much:roll:

Dbrog
02-20-2023, 03:59 PM
Duncan
Bird
Durant
Curry
Magic

Actually quite a nasty team. Only change I would make is maybe prime Wade instead of Curry just for the defense and size (don't really need more perimeter shooting)

AlternativeAcc.
02-20-2023, 04:38 PM
Magic
Klay
Durant
KG
Hakeem


Notice how so many put Klay on their teams? Yet this guy gets disrespected for than any star player...

ShawkFactory
02-20-2023, 05:09 PM
because fck tard, if they don't have any 3 point shooters I don't need any either. I'll just put out bigger better mid range players and destroy them on the boards and on defense.

lebron can't even guard a midget on the mavericks, stop this narrative no ones buying it. LOL @ lebron "forcing" hakeem out to the perimeter when shaq couldn't even do that sh*t to him in the finals.

stfu.

You aren’t speaking intelligently at all.

What does Shaq not forcing Hakeem out to perimeter have to do with Lebron potentially doing so? Shaq is not a perimeter player...

Who is the midget on the Mavericks you’re referring to?

Johnny32
02-20-2023, 05:32 PM
yuck at shaq's team. don't rem if i posted in this yet but lbj is only one who usually makes mine. shaq is whatever at c and mj at sg but not first choices on my team in this era. taking none of these guys and just matching up vs shaq's team i'll take...

steph
kawhi
pippen
kd
hakeem